When he said “you did your part” I knew he was buggin and being sensitive. The woman didn’t want her child, if strangers adopted her she would NEVER see that child again.
EXACTLY.. She thinks she has rights, because it's somebody she knows that has her child.. That baby would have been anywhere on the planet had the godsister not STEPPED in.. She GAVE HER CHILD AWAY. SHE SHOULD BE THANKING HER GODSISTER NOT CAUSE CHAOS IN HER/THE CHILD'S LIFE..
I was a foster child and I don't even agree with Judge Mathis. Leave the child in the home where she's stable and provided for. Housing is a basic necessity .... I wish the plaintiff would've went through the courts and did a formal adoption.
simone5239 she couldn’t even go take a simple drug test for that child . If she truly was looking at the child’s best interest, she’d been on her feet after 3 years and would be able to do simple request like that . There’s probably more to the story on her part . Mothers usually have every chance to get their child back so the fact that she did not says a lot & I know this personally because I’ve seen it all.
@@aliciamai1994 first of all she did state she took it nd that the paperwork was not founded that happens more than many know and if she is such a bad mother y do she still have custody of her other 5 children they both stated she was sick so she gave her God sister custody full term however when it comes to it parents can always get their child back unless they did something dire
@@mahailiabrown3972 No what she did was GAVE THE CHILD TO THE *ADOPTION AGENCY... not to CPS or foster care.. SHE GAVE THE CHILD AWAY TO BE ADOPTED.. THE GODSISTER FOUND OUT AND WENT & STEPPED UP, BECAUSE SHE DID NOT WANT THE CHILD TO BE GIVE AWAY TO STRANGERS.. HOW ARE YOU ALL JUST.. CONVENIENTLY... SKIPPING OVER THAT PART? SHE *WILLINGLY GAVE THE CHILD UP... TO AN ADOPTION AGENCY. WITH THE INTENT OF BEING GIVEN AWAY TO ANOTHER FAMILY.. ADOPTION IS PERMANENT.. CAN'T JUST POP BACK UP, DEMANDING TO HAVE THE CHILD BACK.. NO, THE GODSISTER DIDNT LEGALLY ADOPT THE CHILD.. WHICH WAS HER BIGGEST MISTAKE IN THIS ENTIRE ORDEAL.. SHE DID IT THE GHETTO GUARDIAN WAY.. BY HAVING THE BIO MOM TO WRITE HER INTENTIONS FOWN ON A PIECE OF PAPER. PER THE LETTER, SHE GAVE UP HER RIGHTS PERMANENTLY.. THE GODSISTER, WHO ALSO RAISED THE BIO MOM, SHOULD HAVE NEVER TRUSTED THAT PIECE OF PAPER, WHICH IS UP TO A JUDGE TO DECIDE IF IT STILL LEGALLY BINDING.. SHE DID SIGN THE PAPER.. THEREFORE, GODSIS HAS GROUNDS TO FIGHT IT IN COURT VS JUST HANDING HER OVER... JUST CUZ SHE DECIDED SHE WANT THE CHILD BACK. 3 WHOLE DAMN YEARS BACK. Y'ALL NEED TO RESEARCH THE LEGALITIES OF THIS TYPE OF SITUATION, INSTEAD OF JUST GOING BY HOW Y'ALL FEEL...
People don't understand this. When it comes to children, you need to work with the system. Get the papers right. The child was in an agency, the child could be anywhere right if the Godsister hadn't take her.
@@HealingEraWithTricia EXACTLY... HAD THE GODSISTER NOT STEPPED UP.. THAT BABY WOULD BE LONG GONE.. PERMANENTLY.. AND SHE WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO EVEN KNOW OR LAY EYES ON THAT BABY.. I DON'T SEE WHAT'S SO HARD FOR PEOPLE TO COMPREHEND THAT FACT.. PEOPLE ARE SPEAKING FROM AN EMOTIONAL STAND POINT.. NOT A LOGICAL STANDPOINT.. SHE GAVE HER CHILD TO A FKN ADOPTION AGENCY, NOT DIRECTLY TO THE GODSISTER FOR TEMPORARY GUARDIANSHIP... THE GODSISTER WAS KIND ENOUGH TO STEP IN AND SAVE THE CHILD FROM.. A RANDOM STRANGER GETTING HER.. THE GODSISTER'S MISTAKE WAS NOT LEGALLY ADOPTING THE CHILD. THIS IS NOT A TRADITIONAL GUARDIANSHIP ISSUE.. ONLY IGNORANCE WOULD HAVE ONE THINK THAT WAY..
@@ljgil850 YOU'RE RIGHT.. SHE WAS REMOVED.. SHE WAS GIVEN AWAY TO AN ADOPTION AGENCY!!!! HAD CPS REMOVED THE CHILD, AND THE MOTHER DID WHAT WAS REQUIRED TO SATISFY THE COURT, TO GET HER CHILD BACK.. THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT STORY.. BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE HERE. SHE LITERALLY GAVE THE CHILD TO AN ADOPTION AGENCY.. HOW ARE Y'ALL NOT OVERSTATING THIS? YOU ALL ARE COMPARING APPLES AND ORANGES.. THE SCENARIOS ARE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS.. AT THIS POINT THE GODSISTER NEED TO GO AHEAD AND PETITION THE COURT FOR LEGAL ADOPTION.. AND JUST BE DONE WITH IT..
@simone5239 FIT also means you should be able to PROVIDE/finance (food, education...etc). Love doesn't put food on the table money does. If you can't feed it don't breed it.
@simone5239 I see what you're saying. But what is back child support? What are arrears? If a parent is taking care of their child outside of the courts, why must they be demanded to pay child support in accordance to the law? I actually see nothing wrong with the suggestion the initial commentor made in regards to paying back child support.
I have to disagree with JM. If the child was adopted by someone who was not related, through an adoption agency, total strangers that the agency found fitting for the child, the mother cannot demand their child back years later! Once, you put your child up for adoption, you signed your rights away as the mother of the child!
That aunt should have gone and had her patental rights terminated /legal adoption and made it official back then when she gave her the baby...and she wouldnt have had to.go thru all this
I agree I went through this with my sister but in my state dcf told me I either have her give up her rights or they will pull them and after they pull them you will never have another child it will be taken away at birth....anyways my son was adopted at 1 years old and is now 7 and healthy
That’s why I believe the mom didn’t really wanna give her up she gave her up to someone she trusted. She knew the mom was gon come back she just got attached and didn’t wanna let the baby go when the mom got her stuff together.
The baby was at an adoption agency just sitting there and she wasn't hollering and screaming then. That baby could have been ANYWHERE today and she would be just fine with it. She only wants the baby because someone she knows has her. Where are the other kids if she has no place to stay? No daddy for none of them. Sad
No read sweetie.She was there before and after she had her child and left within 3 days.Since her child been with godsister both of them took care of Angel.
@@padussia no honey she signed over her rights, and took the baby to the adoption place. If she would have gotten adopted from another person she knows the state wouldn't have allowed that!!
Yes! I believe Judge Mathis was totally insensitive of this case and both of them arguing in court back and forth didn't help at all! So sad for all of them especially the child😔.
@@aliciamai1994 she sure did, I honestly think she wanted to be selfish and throw salt in the game. Because why would you want to remove a child, out of an stable environment? Jealousy comes in many forms, including seeing a woman doing better than you as a mother!! #AintThatSomeShit
Amber Hi yep . I see it so often because if she truly wants that child back, she’s take the proper steps and go above and beyond . I’ve seen some horrible women get their shit together for their children and though their past was horrible they were able to do so because of the effort shown . . Why would you want to remove her from a stable home to be living house to house , you see her often , you’re still in her life .. so take the proper steps . And that’s why the other judge didn’t give the child back . It would make 0 sense to put a child in that environment.
@@CrystalArkia Let her run to the mom.. but at least give her a chance at not being like the mother.. Pathological poverty and generational curses are REAL... THE GODSISTER IS GIVING THE CHILD A FAIR CHANCE AT LIFE.. IT'S NOT LIKE SHE IS TRYING TO KEEP THE CHILD FROM THE BIRTH MOTHER.. YET, THE BIRTH MOM.. IS WILLING TO TURN THE CHILD AGAINST THE ONLY REAL MOTHER THE CHILD HAS HAD SINCE BIRTH.. SHE NEEDS TO FOCUS ON THE ONE'S.. THAT SHE DIDN'T GIVE TO THE ADOPTION AGENCY🙄🙄🙄...
Yes they should get along. But the mother is unstable. Not being able to humble herself proves it. No father in sight the best way to get the child would be with the father. Two mothers that's the best she has. She wants possession when she has five more.
Ok I’m about 3 minutes in... judge Mathis is a fool. That woman raised that baby and the mother gave her up! NOBODY took that baby from her. She gave her up, that’s not ok for him to say to that woman.
@@MommyKi No she was going to take the baby to an adoption agency. If she did that do you really think she would’ve reached out to those parents that took that child and try to get it back? No.
@@mielissa100ify okay yes she was and from the adoption agency she called someone that she would still be able to see the baby and have interaction. Otherwise why even call her if she was set on giving her up and being done. The lady knew nothing of that baby until that call was made. So I would assume she did what she felt was best until she got her shit together because like someone else said she couldn’t do this if she given her up for adoption. Why didn’t the lady adopt the baby if she felt she was truly given the child to keep? She kept saying she got attached. So if she hadn’t then she wouldn’t have a problem giving her back. I’m not saying it won’t be hard but from what was said I believe she knew when she decided to call her it was for help and not to give the baby up otherwise she wouldn’t have called her.
She should have made it clear that she want her child back when she get situated and back on her feet. I think she signed the baby over to the God sister because she didn't want her child going into the system. This is just a sad situation. The child will definitely suffer behind this..
@@ilovesports5468 first we don't know if its different men second we don't know how old the children are third who the fuck are u to say a person can't become stable if they keep having children I'll tell u a damn fool is who
If she didn't want her kid in the system SHE WOULDN'T HAVE DROPPED HER OFF AT AN *ADOPTION AGENCY*.. THE GIDSISTER FOUND OUT AND WENT TO THE AGENCY AND ASKED IF SHE COULD TAKE THE CHILD... SHE THOUGHT SHE'D WAS COVERING HER BASES BY HAVING THE MOM SIGN A PAPER SAYING SHE COULD HAVE THE CHILD PERMANENTLY.. WHEN SHE SHOULD HAVE WENT THRU THE ADOPTION AGENCY AND LEGALLY ADOPTED THE BABY, AS SOON AS, SHE GOT HER.. INSTEAD OF DOING IT HOW THEY DID IT BACK IN THE DAY.. THE UNOFFICIAL WAY.. BY JUST ALLOWING FAMILY OR CLOSE FRIENDS TO TAKE GUARDIANSHIP OF THE CHILD.. AND SKIP DEALING WITH THE COURTS... THAT WAS THE GODSISTER'S MISTAKE..
That's why you do this legally: through a LEGIT fostering agency, take foster parenting classes and then adoption process. Family wanting to step in are always welcomed and encouraged to take classes too. That's why people who want to foster are told NOT TO GET ATTACHED to the children because the parents could end up getting their children back. I've seen and known foster parents get too attached to children that they'll do anything to keep the bio parents from getting their children back.
This was one of the most heart breaking cases I've ever seen on judge Mathis. Gave your daughter away on a piece of paper after putting her in a adoption agency. Just like the woman said, you can't come in after some of the hardest parts of raising a child were done during the first 3 years.
No child support, no arrears, no threat of jail, no one is calling her a dead beat... And the judge is in favor of her getting her child back. Gotta love it.
@@Leonidas1014 She's a deadbeat PERIODT... THE HAS NERVE TO HAVE 6 KIDS.. SHE NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THE 5 SHE HAS IN HER UNSTABLE CUSTODY.. INSTEAD OF TRYING TO DESTROY THE STABILITY OF THE CHILD, THAT SHE GAVE TO AN ADOPTION AGENCY.. WITH THE INTENT OF NOT HAVING CUSTODY OF ANYMORE. SMFH.. JUDGE MATHIAS IS DEAD WRONG FOR FEEDING THAT FOOLISHNESS IN THAT WOMEN'S HEAD.. SHE GAVE UP HER PARENTAL RIGHTS.. THE CHILD DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ADOPTED FOR THAT TO STAND... SHE LITERALLY SIGNED A PAPER, GIVING UP HER PARENTAL RIGHTS TO THE GODSISTER.
he was so wrong and was fighting so hard to make the plaintiff look so bad for raising her! some times judge mathis gets to be too much and i hate to watch him!
but they lady did come back and now shes at a different point in life. That child was not forcibly removed! there is no circumstance that will take away biological connections, physical and emotional ones, sure. So mom has the right to try and make it right. if the child was near adulthood and said otherwise then thats that. but there is no one all set standard to these situations.
@@ljgil850 No the child wasn't forcibly removed.. SHE WAS GIVEN A WHOLE ADOPTION AGENCY.. THE INTENT TO GIVE HER AWAY WILL NEVER CHANGE.. JUST BECAUSE THE GODSISTER DIDN'T ACTUALLY ADOPT THE KID.. THAT'S WHERE THE GODSISTER WENT WRONG. HAD ANOTHER PERSON GOT THE BABY.. THE MOTHER WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW WHERE SHE WAS TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE CHILD.. SHE WILLINGLY GAVE THE BABY UP AT BIRTH.. THE GODSISTER NEED TO GO AHEAD & ADOPT THE CHILD IF LEGALLY POSSIBLE..
When a child is “ADOPTED” by anyone the birth Parent(s) don’t have any right anymore; not visiting, birthday parties and etc. The adoptee has to use their own discretion making the child safe. The birth parents fail to realize they signed their rights over to whom adopted the child.
It wasn’t legal and the mother was under distress at that time. Had the mother went through the normal process of adoption I’m sure she would’ve at (some point) came to her senses to raise her child.
I feel like Judge Mathis was too hard on Angalina. If Ebony had given up the baby to the system she wouldn’t be able to pop up 3 years later and demand the child back. Why should this be any different? Judge Mathis was harsh with a woman who only did the right thing. Sometimes it’s not worth helping people - you only get a slap in the face.
So what if she has no man how so u know if he died u don't ur a judging person who probably loves the drama also because she has 6 kids nd no guy it's bad I know mothers with 10 kids no father but I guess they travesty too huh u look like a damn travesty
@@mahailiabrown3972 Yeah, if you're a mother with 10 kids and no husband, just a damn baby maker, a damn breeder, yes, you are a travesty and a disgrace to the black community. A literal disgrace. Yes, she is a disgrace. And a ratchet. Now I said it. And if you back that shit, then you're a travesty and a disgrace...
@@RiverdaleKingz5660 if the father died than how is that ratchet if she was raped or had sets of children at once how us that ratchet u dont know ppl fucking backstory so how do u judge u probably judging urself cuz it's how u r or someone close to live at the moment but no one was specific on if it was many baby daddies or one father in this case no one said if she had twins or triplets how far apart the kids are or anything so u r stupid judging someone without all the information ppl like u should k how better by now u sadden me nd I abhor ppl like u
Idk why they steady beating around the bush, using words like "I wasn't well" ","I was sick" Just spit it out, YOU WERE ON CRACK/DRUGS. My goodness 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️😒
I’t does not matter if she family or whoever if you are helping them and love them if she has herself together let her have her child and stay in the child life just cause you are attached in a mother way doesn’t make it right what she is doing.
@Anglalina Travis the baby is still her child though. She should still be entitled to be part of her daughter's life especially since she got back on feet now
This is tough, as a Mom, I feel a child should always be with her biological parent. But if the parent is unfit then it's in the best interest of the child.
Plaintiff should keep the child. She has full custody at the request of the defendant. You can’t be pulling children back and forth between homes. The child is going to be the one hurt in the end and will end up needing counseling because of all that mess. smh
Because dcf acs will tell u u can smoke weed as long as you don't do it around the child so yeah he said it plus we don't know if she really did that in front of her child or if her child came back and told her God aunt that her mom smoke in front of her
The baby was legally adopted. You can't get back a baby that you adopt to a random person, so why should she get back the baby she adopted fromvher friend? That child is accustomed to all different types of living. If the child moves in with her mom, I'm pretty sure it's going to be a culture shock to say the least.
I went through this as a child, it was hard as hell. My mom was a teen mom. My middle class grandparents raised me from infancy to six years old. In first grade my mother became my primary parent (my mom wanted me, my grandparents wanted to keep me, but didn't want to be the reason my mom and I didn't have a mother daughter relationship). By 10th grade I was back with my grandparents because my mom let her boyfriend physically abuse me. I went from having all my needs meet, to living a ghetto babymama life.
yea all of that sound good until the child start getting resentment later in life..just knowledge of her biological mom is already planted and it will always draw on the child to have that bond..both sides acting a fool will cause resentment. that child not gone care about her moms past circumstances..i dont care how good that other lady is..at the end of the day, the defendant is still the mother.
I don't disagree with her feelings, I disagree with her behavior. She's not presenting the situation as if being in her home is in the best interest of the child. She presenting like its in her own best interest. That's not how this goes.
This is the exact thing that happened to my parents twice, my "brothers" were taken back by my aunties at 4 and 10. So this last time they finally knew to go through the courts!!
I have been give guardianship of a child by court order till they are 18 with the request and consent of the mother. A year on and the mother behaves exactly like this one. visitation and behaviour is erratic and will not work with the system to get child back. Ironically I had looked after the mother for five years when my sister-in-law left her on my doorstep when she was 2 years old. Children need stability, safety and care; just wanting them is not enough nor is it love.
I hate when a person is asked a question and they say, Huh??? then proceeds to answer the question anyway!!! Silly, you heard me!!! Just buying time to figure out a lie.
The woman has six kids she can’t afford to take care of her self your child in a safe place focus on getting your life together stop doing drugs and stop messing with no good man and getting pregnant 🤰
qwandiddy That’s not a true statement The men I know take care of the children and a real man not deadbeats women have choices this is not the third world where women don’t have rights there’s a thing called birth-control you choose Who you sleep with so that’s not a true statement🤔 The father day if the lives with his mama don’t have a job don’t have his car he has multiple baby mamas would you still sleep with them what choice will you make😳
Well, going by the cursing from the biological mother at the end, I hope she is not granted full custody of that poor baby. She showed her true character after the case. smh. That baby deserves better, not to be the 6th child of this woman. She deserves a loving and respectful home.
Two minutes in and I can't believe what I'm hearing. She should have protected herself and the child and had the defendant sign the child over. The defendant was already going to give that child up for good, never to see her again.
Judge Mathis is always being unfair in his feelings in what world is it okay to give up your baby for 3 months then come back when your ready that’s not how it goes she was literally giving the baby up for adoption she wouldn’t have been able to get her back then so why should she now
I disagree with Judge Mathis on this one. At the beginning it was stated that the child in question was her 5th pregnancy. Then later she stated she has a total of 6 kids. Ma’am why would you give up your child & then go have another one after? You’re already struggling! They all have different dads, make it make sense.
I disagree with Judge Mathis on this one. She was willingly going to give up that child to an agency meaning she would have had no means of possibly seeing that child again. Not knowing if the adoptive parents would have given her a chance to meet the child. That woman saved the child and raised her as her own. She is UNGRATEFUL! She waited until the hardwork is done to come and take the credit at the end. Judge that is her child once the child adopted that is the parent now.
I wholeheartedly agree i just wish the god mom actually signed the adoption paperwork. They wouldnt even need court if that was done instead of the handwritten agreement they signed
@@ljgil850 WHAT PART OF SHE GAVE THE BABY TO AN ADOPTION AGENCY DO YOU NOT OVERSTAND? SHE DID THAT WITH INTENT TO GIVE THE BABY AWAY.. ADOPTION AGENCY AND TEMPORARY FOSTER CARE.. UNTIL MOM GOT HERSELF TOGETHER IS 2 TOTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS... I DON'T COMPREHEND HOW YOU ARE NOT OVERSTANDING THAT VITAL POINT.. HAD THE GODSISTER NOT STEPPED IN THE BABY WOULD HAVE BEEN ADOPTED BY ANOTHER PERSON(S).. AND SHE WOULD HAVE NO ACCESS TO THE CHILD.. SHE SHOULD BE GRATEFUL, THAT SHE GETS TO STILL SEE THE CHILD... INSTEAD OF TRYING TO CAUSE HAVOC WITH THE STABILITY OF THE CHILD.
@simone5239 She did leave her, that is a fact. She was going to leave her had the godmother not intervened and taken action. She signed over her parental rights and gave her up for adoption meaning the adoptive mother doesn't have to allow visitation or partial custody of any sort. She is her child now. She is only the biological mother and if you read between the lines she seem to have a drug issue more significant than marijuana.
You're the guardian who cares for her every day but _"DON'T KNOW"_ how she got that *BIG* bruise? That looks like someone with enough strength gripped the child while trying to get a point across and bruised her or something. _Whoever_ 🤔did it is obviously refusing to step forward, but might want to get a hold of *_themselves._* Those two plaintiffs are mean-spirited, _too good_ in their own minds and I feel concerned about the child being exposed to their failure of compassion and display of self-righteousness. It's unhealthy 😪and makes me wonder how intolerant they are in private - especially the godsister (plaintiff) who claims she "loves" her so much. What???
I understand what the judge was saying 100 percent! She made an emotional decision while having a weak moment. She also maintained a relationship with her baby while the baby was with the friend. She wanted better for her child and until she could provide better she allowed her friend to maintain custody. At some point the baby is going to want to be with her biological mother anyway! The friend should not hinder that relationship. And if she was so unfit the courts would have taken her 5 other children. All the friend cared about was the well-being of the 1 child. None of the kids were at risk the friend was lying because she was emotionally attached.
All the bad mothers in the comments talking about "give her back her child". If she had given the child up to strangers this wouldn't even be a question. Home girl can't just change her mind now that she sees what she gave up. Focus that energy on the five that she's probably doing a trash job raising.
Lady Day Dream because someone’s views don’t match yours doesn’t make them a bad mother. I think you’re confused on the facts. First, she gave her custody and the other chick did not adopt her. So, contrary to your point legally, the child is still the mother’s child. So, eventually she will get her back. It’s now or later. The longer the other chick holds the child hostage the harder it will be for her to heal and move on.
@@Seeingisntbelieving The Godsister has a signed paper FROM THE BIRTH MOM saying.. SHE, THE MOTHER, gave her to the her PERMANENTLY.. That paper is legal.. AT THIS POINT, THE GODSISTER NEED TO PETITION THE COURT TO LEGALLY ADOPT THE CHILD THAT SHE HAD HAD SINCE SHE WAS 5 DAYS TIL 3 YRS OLD.. THE MOTHER LEFT HER AT THE ADOPTION AGENCY.. TF.. SHE WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THE BABY WAS.. IF THE GODSISTER DIDN'T STEP IN..
Sad, sad, sad😔, I hurt for the baby! She gave the child up, but clearly under stress and not the best circumstances. Unfortunately they didn’t go to court in the beginning and make it a legal adoption. I doubt that paper will hold in court and mom will likely get her daughter back. God sister needs get on mom’s good side like the judge said
She legally adopted the child. The mother terminated her rights. Thata why the judge won't give custody back. It would be traumatic for the child to gi back to her bio mother now. If the bio mother was as stable as she claims the judge wouldn't keep stripping her access to the child away. It was said in court that she doesn't even have the rights to visitation.
That's not always true my mother had her rights taken away and she was very stable had a job a house nd food and I wanted to be with her sometimes the judge believes that if they were taken or signed away they were not loved nd for that is not stable to be with but it should be what the child wants plus u guys are basing this all by this one segment no one knows what really goes on like her God sister can't explain why their is bruises on the arm plus when it comes to drug test they make u do one when u step into the courts to see your child if u fail you can't see the child as the God sister said she still sees her and has visits as the mom says she has 5 others it doesn't matter where the fathers are at they could be dead or in jail it could be one father or plenty we don't even know the age of her other children she asked her family for help nd what judges do is even after adoption even though it's hard is give the parents back custody plus the true character of her God sister came out at the end it seems like each time the mom did try to talk she would be cut off by her sister nd how they came nd attacked her with their words u know they wanted the money u can tell clearly they both care for the child nd at least the girl knows her mom so no one can say anything if anything if they have to wait till she is 18 the daughter would know who she really wants to have a relationship with it can be both, one or the other or neither of them we will never know, but I feel like it's ok to change her mind and at least she been trying to get her child back nd not just saying it and not even contact their children
For him to say it's ok for her to have the baby back when she already has 5 kids going from house to house left me speechless! So its ok to be homeless not really knowing how long is gonna take for the people helping you to get fed up with your now 6kids, weed smoking, no working ass and kick you out? Mother of the year trying to bring another kid to her caos instead of being less selfish and let her be raise by this woman who loves her and just have visitation.
This case had my nerves frazzled!😵 The defendant comes across as ungrateful. Judge Mathis really tried to give her the benefit of the doubt & she blew it. Hopefully they can come to an agreement for the sake of the child.
So I'm curious as to when did the other 5children occur. Seems that some were before babygirl in question. Why give her up if mom already had children? Why cont to have more after if she hadn't regained custody of babygirl? I pray for all involved.
I would feel used if I was the godmother. Because she wouldn't want the baby if someone else had her. I'll just let the child go! Even if this means she is suffering with poverty with mother. Biological mother knows she cannot raise 6 kids alone. SMDH. Overall, I feel sorry for the children.
I’m with the Judge on this one. Unless she has proof that woman was out in the streets on drugs or something, she should have her child. It sucks she got attached but she’s not the biological mother. But the flip side of that is the woman shot herself in the foot by stating that she could have her child “full term” on the paper the Judge was shown
Full term was why the plaintiff was able to be attached confidently; and plaintiff let's the bio mom take the child weekends unless the bio mom cancels.
Exact reason why I will never ever in my life give one of my kids to nobody I don’t care ever we will struggle together because this lady feel she’s entitled to take this woman child
I have seen it too many times. Eventually, that child is going to want her mother, because they idealized it in their head. They feel some kinda way because they can't understand why they were given away but not the other kids. It's a mess. This is just a lot of heartbreak all around. Ghetto adoption in these modern times do not work, actually never did.
This is one of the reasons that inter-family adoption is a bad idea. If the baby had been adopted by strangers she would never have to deal with her birth "mother".
If the mom would have left her at the adoption agency we wouldn’t even be having this court case !!!!You can’t wake up one days after they’re shipped off and say okay now I want her again.This case was messed up
If she was originally giving the child up for adoption she wouldn't be able to get her back. So why should she be able to get the baby back from her God sister. I feel once she signed over her rights that's it.
I love Judge Mathis however sometimes he takes things personal, however when your on that stand you have to remove your personal emotions and understand both sides
the god sister is most likely the better guardian but if she wants to stay in that child’s life, she needs to get along with the biological mother.. bottom line.
@Amma Boamah-Appiah doesn't matter, the mother obviously wants her back and is willing to fight for her. if a judge decides that the biological mother can get her back, the god sister will never see that child again. it makes more sense for all parties involved to make peace.
@@tyrathethird ima need the mom to pay that 3 years of child support plus some for the extra money the god sister spent on her child if she wants her back period. Wtf she thought this was? This lady provided for the child with no financial help from her. Definitely not right to just take her after giving her the impression she will raise this child as her own. This almost a scam on the mothers part. All them diapers and wipes this lady provided she should be ashamed.
SHE (DIRECTLY) GAVE THE CHILD TO AN ADOPTION AGENCY, TO BE GIVEN AWAY.. ADOPTION IS PERMANENT, GUARDIANSHIP IS NOT. SHE DID NOT GIVE THE GODSISTER GUARDIANSHIP.. THE GODSISTER STEP UP, SO THE CHILD WOULDN'T BE GIVEN AWAY TO RANDOM STRANGERS.. HAD THE GODSISTER NOT STEPPED UP, THE CHILD WOULD BE LONG GONE.. DO YOU THINK SHE COULD JUST GO OUT AND DEMAND THE BABY BACK HAD THE CHILD BEEN ADOPTED BY STRANGERS? NO. SHE COULDN'T DO THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT HOW ANY OF THAT WORKS.. IN AN ADOPTION, EVEN AFTER SIGNING PAPERS.. THE BIRTH MOTHER HAS 48HRS TO CHANGE HER MIND.. NOT 3 YEARS.. SHE NEED TO STOP HARASSING THAT LADY AND BE GLAD SHE CAN STILL LAY EYES ON HER CHILD THAT SHE ABANDONED🙄🙄🙄.. Why is this hard to COMPREHEND?
@@INDIGO.GODDESS_573 girl she signed a whole ass letter please sit down with all that. If that was the case the state would of been gave her her child. The real question is did she sign the birth certificate
That’s her child she should be able to see her child and fight for custody back. She was in a tough spot but is fighting to have her child. That’s all that really matters. The plaintiff is acting like she birthed the child. Make sure that child can see her mother anytime she wants.
When he said “you did your part” I knew he was buggin and being sensitive. The woman didn’t want her child, if strangers adopted her she would NEVER see that child again.
Yep cause some damn paper work would have been done from day 1.
If you was willing to have your child adopted out ..... and singed a letter to give her custody ...
What is the issue ? Why are you back ?
EXACTLY..
She thinks she has rights, because it's somebody she knows that has her child..
That baby would have been anywhere on the planet had the godsister not STEPPED in..
She GAVE HER CHILD AWAY. SHE SHOULD BE THANKING HER GODSISTER NOT CAUSE CHAOS IN HER/THE CHILD'S LIFE..
CALIFORNIA GODDESS and the judge is trippin on this one
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exactly
I hate when he makes up his mind before hearing everything😠😠
Whyms World he does that a lot too.
Whyms World he does that a lot too.
Without knowing all of the background info
Mathis is wrong
He does that quite often. It’s just not fair.
She left that baby at an adoption agency!! She didnt want her , if she was adopted by strangers she couldn't go get her back
Ryan that was my thought process on it. They are going to mess that poor baby up with their pettiness towards each other.
I agree. She only wants the baby because someone else she knows wants her.
Ryan I forget about that! The only thing I didn’t like was the bruising on the babies arm.
Ryan that’s what I was thinking
Exactly Ryan!
I was a foster child and I don't even agree with Judge Mathis. Leave the child in the home where she's stable and provided for. Housing is a basic necessity .... I wish the plaintiff would've went through the courts and did a formal adoption.
My thought exactly.
Then again it isn’t her biological baby .
Judge you're by yourself on this one.
simone5239 she couldn’t even go take a simple drug test for that child . If she truly was looking at the child’s best interest, she’d been on her feet after 3 years and would be able to do simple request like that . There’s probably more to the story on her part . Mothers usually have every chance to get their child back so the fact that she did not says a lot & I know this personally because I’ve seen it all.
I agree with the judge
@@aliciamai1994 first of all she did state she took it nd that the paperwork was not founded that happens more than many know and if she is such a bad mother y do she still have custody of her other 5 children they both stated she was sick so she gave her God sister custody full term however when it comes to it parents can always get their child back unless they did something dire
@@mahailiabrown3972 No what she did was GAVE THE CHILD TO THE *ADOPTION AGENCY... not to CPS or foster care.. SHE GAVE THE CHILD AWAY TO BE ADOPTED.. THE GODSISTER FOUND OUT AND WENT & STEPPED UP, BECAUSE SHE DID NOT WANT THE CHILD TO BE GIVE AWAY TO STRANGERS..
HOW ARE YOU ALL JUST.. CONVENIENTLY... SKIPPING OVER THAT PART?
SHE *WILLINGLY GAVE THE CHILD UP... TO AN ADOPTION AGENCY. WITH THE INTENT OF BEING GIVEN AWAY TO ANOTHER FAMILY.. ADOPTION IS PERMANENT.. CAN'T JUST POP BACK UP, DEMANDING TO HAVE THE CHILD BACK..
NO, THE GODSISTER DIDNT LEGALLY ADOPT THE CHILD.. WHICH WAS HER BIGGEST MISTAKE IN THIS ENTIRE ORDEAL.. SHE DID IT THE GHETTO GUARDIAN WAY.. BY HAVING THE BIO MOM TO WRITE HER INTENTIONS FOWN ON A PIECE OF PAPER. PER THE LETTER, SHE GAVE UP HER RIGHTS PERMANENTLY.. THE GODSISTER, WHO ALSO RAISED THE BIO MOM, SHOULD HAVE NEVER TRUSTED THAT PIECE OF PAPER, WHICH IS UP TO A JUDGE TO DECIDE IF IT STILL LEGALLY BINDING.. SHE DID SIGN THE PAPER.. THEREFORE, GODSIS HAS GROUNDS TO FIGHT IT IN COURT VS JUST HANDING HER OVER... JUST CUZ SHE DECIDED SHE WANT THE CHILD BACK. 3 WHOLE DAMN YEARS BACK.
Y'ALL NEED TO RESEARCH THE LEGALITIES OF THIS TYPE OF SITUATION, INSTEAD OF JUST GOING BY HOW Y'ALL FEEL...
CALIFORNIA GODDESS thank you adoption isn’t a oh lemme see how I feel in a couple a years type thing it’s permanent.
She should've legally adopted her at the agency. Ghetto adoption doesn't work. The courts side with the mother.
People don't understand this. When it comes to children, you need to work with the system. Get the papers right. The child was in an agency, the child could be anywhere right if the Godsister hadn't take her.
She legally adopted her.. He had the paper in his hands..
Lmbooo
And she SHOULD give her back.
@@biancaedwards4946 then said the judge was tripping. If GREG was the judge she would be with mom. Watch the whole video.
6 kids you cannot afford. I'm curious about the children's fathers.
The children's fathers are out of the equation.
HARD financial times + a HARD d*ck not a good combination
Fathers love to make babies, that's for sure
@@blackreacher Where are they???
@@joymcguire somewhere impregnating a happy soon to be mother?
You can't give your children up and change your mind years later when they are in loving care.
Lady Day Dream yes, you can. This is a guardianship issue.
@@Seeingisntbelieving exactly..that child was not removed/placed in the system
@@Seeingisntbelieving the woman took the baby to the adoption agency. GTFOH
@@HealingEraWithTricia EXACTLY...
HAD THE GODSISTER NOT STEPPED UP.. THAT BABY WOULD BE LONG GONE.. PERMANENTLY.. AND SHE WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO EVEN KNOW OR LAY EYES ON THAT BABY..
I DON'T SEE WHAT'S SO HARD FOR PEOPLE TO COMPREHEND THAT FACT..
PEOPLE ARE SPEAKING FROM AN EMOTIONAL STAND POINT.. NOT A LOGICAL STANDPOINT..
SHE GAVE HER CHILD TO A FKN ADOPTION AGENCY, NOT DIRECTLY TO THE GODSISTER FOR TEMPORARY GUARDIANSHIP... THE GODSISTER WAS KIND ENOUGH TO STEP IN AND SAVE THE CHILD FROM.. A RANDOM STRANGER GETTING HER..
THE GODSISTER'S MISTAKE WAS NOT LEGALLY ADOPTING THE CHILD.
THIS IS NOT A TRADITIONAL GUARDIANSHIP ISSUE..
ONLY IGNORANCE WOULD HAVE ONE THINK THAT WAY..
@@ljgil850
YOU'RE RIGHT.. SHE WAS REMOVED.. SHE WAS GIVEN AWAY TO AN ADOPTION AGENCY!!!!
HAD CPS REMOVED THE CHILD, AND THE MOTHER DID WHAT WAS REQUIRED TO SATISFY THE COURT, TO GET HER CHILD BACK.. THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT STORY.. BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE HERE.
SHE LITERALLY GAVE THE CHILD TO AN ADOPTION AGENCY.. HOW ARE Y'ALL NOT OVERSTATING THIS?
YOU ALL ARE COMPARING APPLES AND ORANGES..
THE SCENARIOS ARE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS..
AT THIS POINT THE GODSISTER NEED TO GO AHEAD AND PETITION THE COURT FOR LEGAL ADOPTION.. AND JUST BE DONE WITH IT..
If she wants the child back she should pay her 3 years worth of child support 😆. Let's see if she can do that.
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Big facts
@simone5239 FIT also means you should be able to PROVIDE/finance (food, education...etc). Love doesn't put food on the table money does. If you can't feed it don't breed it.
@simone5239 I see what you're saying. But what is back child support? What are arrears? If a parent is taking care of their child outside of the courts, why must they be demanded to pay child support in accordance to the law? I actually see nothing wrong with the suggestion the initial commentor made in regards to paying back child support.
I have to disagree with JM. If the child was adopted by someone who was not related, through an adoption agency, total strangers that the agency found fitting for the child, the mother cannot demand their child back years later! Once, you put your child up for adoption, you signed your rights away as the mother of the child!
That aunt should have gone and had her patental rights terminated /legal adoption and made it official back then when she gave her the baby...and she wouldnt have had to.go thru all this
EXACTLY
My thoughts exactly. Wth
I agree I went through this with my sister but in my state dcf told me I either have her give up her rights or they will pull them and after they pull them you will never have another child it will be taken away at birth....anyways my son was adopted at 1 years old and is now 7 and healthy
exactly
That’s why I believe the mom didn’t really wanna give her up she gave her up to someone she trusted. She knew the mom was gon come back she just got attached and didn’t wanna let the baby go when the mom got her stuff together.
The baby was at an adoption agency just sitting there and she wasn't hollering and screaming then. That baby could have been ANYWHERE today and she would be just fine with it. She only wants the baby because someone she knows has her. Where are the other kids if she has no place to stay? No daddy for none of them. Sad
EXACTLY..
🗣She was hospitalized.The child was still at hospital
@@jamirefelder Dang for 3 years?? Wow
No read sweetie.She was there before and after she had her child and left within 3 days.Since her child been with godsister both of them took care of Angel.
Yea exactly
That “Mother” can NOT just come back 3 YEARS LATER and decide to play “mom”. Ridiculous. Gtfo of here
Play mom she is the mom
Yes she can.
@@padussia no honey she signed over her rights, and took the baby to the adoption place. If she would have gotten adopted from another person she knows the state wouldn't have allowed that!!
Yes! I believe Judge Mathis was totally insensitive of this case and both of them arguing in court back and forth didn't help at all! So sad for all of them especially the child😔.
Uhhhh, yes, she can. 🤣she's the mother.
Can’t agree with the judge on this the child better off with the aunt
Mathis is wrong
No she isn’t
Even Mrs. Mathis is not feeling the defendant.
exactly
GOD SISTER....NOT AUNT DONT BE OUT HERE PUTTING IN YOUR TWO CENTS WITH WRONG INFO
House-to-house with 6 kids ain't stable love. You could've been got section 8, just for the stability for the children. 🤷🏾♀️
Amber Hi exactly .. she had 3 years to figure it out for baby girl .
@@aliciamai1994 she sure did, I honestly think she wanted to be selfish and throw salt in the game. Because why would you want to remove a child, out of an stable environment? Jealousy comes in many forms, including seeing a woman doing better than you as a mother!! #AintThatSomeShit
Amber Hi yep . I see it so often because if she truly wants that child back, she’s take the proper steps and go above and beyond . I’ve seen some horrible women get their shit together for their children and though their past was horrible they were able to do so because of the effort shown . . Why would you want to remove her from a stable home to be living house to house , you see her often , you’re still in her life .. so take the proper steps . And that’s why the other judge didn’t give the child back . It would make 0 sense to put a child in that environment.
@@aliciamai1994 I agree Alicia....Mathis is wrong on this one.
some people need a 16 hrs. job security
The child is not a rock you drop off somewhere then go pick it up when you feel like it. She’s a human being. This poor child!
So take the baby from a stable home just to live home to home with her 5 siblings 😂😂
They said she doesn't even have a stable home. She just wants to ruin that babies life like the rest of them. Selfless
Exactly!!!!!
@simone5239 exactly
simone5239 when the baby gets older guess who she’s going to run to? Her mom.
@@CrystalArkia Let her run to the mom.. but at least give her a chance at not being like the mother.. Pathological poverty and generational curses are REAL... THE GODSISTER IS GIVING THE CHILD A FAIR CHANCE AT LIFE.. IT'S NOT LIKE SHE IS TRYING TO KEEP THE CHILD FROM THE BIRTH MOTHER.. YET, THE BIRTH MOM.. IS WILLING TO TURN THE CHILD AGAINST THE ONLY REAL MOTHER THE CHILD HAS HAD SINCE BIRTH..
SHE NEEDS TO FOCUS ON THE ONE'S.. THAT SHE DIDN'T GIVE TO THE ADOPTION AGENCY🙄🙄🙄...
This is a bad situation anyway you look at it. In most cases such as this, the one who suffers is the child. They need to get it together.
Exactly
Yes they should get along. But the mother is unstable. Not being able to humble herself proves it. No father in sight the best way to get the child would be with the father. Two mothers that's the best she has. She wants possession when she has five more.
@@ski740 I'm not saying I disagree. This situation is just F'd up.
@@serenasantiago1964 true indeed you're right
@ and yall eat live bats
Ok I’m about 3 minutes in... judge Mathis is a fool. That woman raised that baby and the mother gave her up! NOBODY took that baby from her. She gave her up, that’s not ok for him to say to that woman.
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She gave her up until she got her self together. This thinking is why moms be scared to reach out for help now.
@@MommyKi No she was going to take the baby to an adoption agency. If she did that do you really think she would’ve reached out to those parents that took that child and try to get it back? No.
@@mielissa100ify okay yes she was and from the adoption agency she called someone that she would still be able to see the baby and have interaction. Otherwise why even call her if she was set on giving her up and being done. The lady knew nothing of that baby until that call was made. So I would assume she did what she felt was best until she got her shit together because like someone else said she couldn’t do this if she given her up for adoption. Why didn’t the lady adopt the baby if she felt she was truly given the child to keep? She kept saying she got attached. So if she hadn’t then she wouldn’t have a problem giving her back. I’m not saying it won’t be hard but from what was said I believe she knew when she decided to call her it was for help and not to give the baby up otherwise she wouldn’t have called her.
@@MommyKi she not back on her feet though, apparently she don't have a stable place to live.
She should have made it clear that she want her child back when she get situated and back on her feet. I think she signed the baby over to the God sister because she didn't want her child going into the system. This is just a sad situation. The child will definitely suffer behind this..
She ain't gone never "get back on her feet" continuing to have baby after baby by different men and left to raise them alone
I agree
@@ilovesports5468 first we don't know if its different men second we don't know how old the children are third who the fuck are u to say a person can't become stable if they keep having children I'll tell u a damn fool is who
If she didn't want her kid in the system SHE WOULDN'T HAVE DROPPED HER OFF AT AN *ADOPTION AGENCY*..
THE GIDSISTER FOUND OUT AND WENT TO THE AGENCY AND ASKED IF SHE COULD TAKE THE CHILD... SHE THOUGHT SHE'D WAS COVERING HER BASES BY HAVING THE MOM SIGN A PAPER SAYING SHE COULD HAVE THE CHILD PERMANENTLY.. WHEN SHE SHOULD HAVE WENT THRU THE ADOPTION AGENCY AND LEGALLY ADOPTED THE BABY, AS SOON AS, SHE GOT HER.. INSTEAD OF DOING IT HOW THEY DID IT BACK IN THE DAY.. THE UNOFFICIAL WAY.. BY JUST ALLOWING FAMILY OR CLOSE FRIENDS TO TAKE GUARDIANSHIP OF THE CHILD.. AND SKIP DEALING WITH THE COURTS... THAT WAS THE GODSISTER'S MISTAKE..
@ u sound stupid I love my child idc for no money as long as my child has all she needs I can go without
That's why you do this legally: through a LEGIT fostering agency, take foster parenting classes and then adoption process. Family wanting to step in are always welcomed and encouraged to take classes too. That's why people who want to foster are told NOT TO GET ATTACHED to the children because the parents could end up getting their children back. I've seen and known foster parents get too attached to children that they'll do anything to keep the bio parents from getting their children back.
This was one of the most heart breaking cases I've ever seen on judge Mathis. Gave your daughter away on a piece of paper after putting her in a adoption agency. Just like the woman said, you can't come in after some of the hardest parts of raising a child were done during the first 3 years.
It's not easy street after 3yrs... it gets tougher!!!
@@kingman1330 she’s saying like the part staying up at night the late nights with no sleep . My ex wants to come back too once our kid is older nope
@@kingman1330 GO
GOD BLESS YOU BOTH
I hope the mother is fixed she doesn't need anymore kids that she can't raise or financially take care of
I bet this woman never paid 1 dime of child support!
No child support, no arrears, no threat of jail, no one is calling her a dead beat... And the judge is in favor of her getting her child back. Gotta love it.
@@Leonidas1014 She's a deadbeat PERIODT... THE HAS NERVE TO HAVE 6 KIDS.. SHE NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THE 5 SHE HAS IN HER UNSTABLE CUSTODY.. INSTEAD OF TRYING TO DESTROY THE STABILITY OF THE CHILD, THAT SHE GAVE TO AN ADOPTION AGENCY.. WITH THE INTENT OF NOT HAVING CUSTODY OF ANYMORE. SMFH..
JUDGE MATHIAS IS DEAD WRONG FOR FEEDING THAT FOOLISHNESS IN THAT WOMEN'S HEAD..
SHE GAVE UP HER PARENTAL RIGHTS.. THE CHILD DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ADOPTED FOR THAT TO STAND... SHE LITERALLY SIGNED A PAPER, GIVING UP HER PARENTAL RIGHTS TO THE GODSISTER.
For what when she was PROVIDING for her child as well
@@INDIGO.GODDESS_573 HOW can you call someone a DEADBEAT YOU KNOW HER PERSONALLY?
and you know it!!! i didnt even think about child support. Shes seems ungratful
The child will always want to be with their parent ; mostly. Adopted children seek out their biological parents all the time.
Exactly!!!
I usually agree with judge Mathis but he was wrong here
Yes. He gets so defensive like a Narcissist. He is definitely wrong.
Im sorry, you can't give your child to someone to raise from a newborn and then ask for her back. No.
Yes. Yes you can.
I don't agree with Judge Mathis. If you gave me the child to raise, it's my child.
Chandra Webb yes I agree!!!
Agreed
Really the child belongs to the Gov't, and that's clear
I don't knw it is not a pet its a human being with biological parents and siblings she may want to knw also.....complicated
he was so wrong and was fighting so hard to make the plaintiff look so bad for raising her! some times judge mathis gets to be too much and i hate to watch him!
If you gave your child up for adoption....you cant just come and get them back
M. Lewizz it wasn’t adoption that’s why there is a problem.
It was NOT a legal adoption, so she has every right to have her child back.
She left the baby at the adoption agency and would have never looked back if the lady didn't get her.
but they lady did come back and now shes at a different point in life. That child was not forcibly removed! there is no circumstance that will take away biological connections, physical and emotional ones, sure. So mom has the right to try and make it right. if the child was near adulthood and said otherwise then thats that. but there is no one all set standard to these situations.
@@ljgil850 No the child wasn't forcibly removed.. SHE WAS GIVEN A WHOLE ADOPTION AGENCY.. THE INTENT TO GIVE HER AWAY WILL NEVER CHANGE.. JUST BECAUSE THE GODSISTER DIDN'T ACTUALLY ADOPT THE KID.. THAT'S WHERE THE GODSISTER WENT WRONG.
HAD ANOTHER PERSON GOT THE BABY.. THE MOTHER WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW WHERE SHE WAS TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE CHILD..
SHE WILLINGLY GAVE THE BABY UP AT BIRTH.. THE GODSISTER NEED TO GO AHEAD & ADOPT THE CHILD IF LEGALLY POSSIBLE..
Auntie Mathis is sitting back there looking so nice & graceful.
Ain't she? Just the epitome of beauty!
I hate when parents give their child up for adoption then want the baby back after they see the baby is doing well
If the mama wanted the child, she’d go to court and try her hardest to get her back. Lady, keep your child and continue to be a good mom.
When a child is “ADOPTED” by anyone the birth Parent(s) don’t have any right anymore; not visiting, birthday parties and etc. The adoptee has to use their own discretion making the child safe. The birth parents fail to realize they signed their rights over to whom adopted the child.
It wasn’t legal and the mother was under distress at that time. Had the mother went through the normal process of adoption I’m sure she would’ve at (some point) came to her senses to raise her child.
Did I miss something? When did anyone say the child is adopted?
I feel like Judge Mathis was too hard on Angalina. If Ebony had given up the baby to the system she wouldn’t be able to pop up 3 years later and demand the child back. Why should this be any different? Judge Mathis was harsh with a woman who only did the right thing. Sometimes it’s not worth helping people - you only get a slap in the face.
The judge's wife is beauty goals!
I know! She is beautiful!
So poised ❤
The Defendant is trifling as hell. You go and have six children, no man nowhere in the picture. What a travesty!!!
So what if she has no man how so u know if he died u don't ur a judging person who probably loves the drama also because she has 6 kids nd no guy it's bad I know mothers with 10 kids no father but I guess they travesty too huh u look like a damn travesty
@@mahailiabrown3972 Yeah, if you're a mother with 10 kids and no husband, just a damn baby maker, a damn breeder, yes, you are a travesty and a disgrace to the black community. A literal disgrace. Yes, she is a disgrace. And a ratchet. Now I said it. And if you back that shit, then you're a travesty and a disgrace...
@@RiverdaleKingz5660 if the father died than how is that ratchet if she was raped or had sets of children at once how us that ratchet u dont know ppl fucking backstory so how do u judge u probably judging urself cuz it's how u r or someone close to live at the moment but no one was specific on if it was many baby daddies or one father in this case no one said if she had twins or triplets how far apart the kids are or anything so u r stupid judging someone without all the information ppl like u should k how better by now u sadden me nd I abhor ppl like u
Idk why they steady beating around the bush, using words like "I wasn't well" ","I was sick" Just spit it out, YOU WERE ON CRACK/DRUGS. My goodness 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️😒
It could have been postpartum depression.
@@miztreblu I think they were joking. Mathis likes saying people are on crack a lot.
I’t does not matter if she family or whoever if you are helping them and love them if she has herself together let her have her child and stay in the child life just cause you are attached in a mother way doesn’t make it right what she is doing.
Yes just like I was away no your ass was in jail
@Anglalina Travis the baby is still her child though. She should still be entitled to be part of her daughter's life especially since she got back on feet now
This is tough, as a Mom, I feel a child should always be with her biological parent. But if the parent is unfit then it's in the best interest of the child.
That godsister is a blessing to her. Why would you put a child in an unstable home?! Judge Mathis again is wrong!
What does he mean by poverty because going to house to house is neglect.
Hope they figure out how to get along and be a happy family
Plaintiff should keep the child. She has full custody at the request of the defendant. You can’t be pulling children back and forth between homes. The child is going to be the one hurt in the end and will end up needing counseling because of all that mess. smh
Latino SEG thank you!
Thank you! You hit the nail on the head. Children need stability.
Uhhhh...Did judge Mathis REALLY just cosign someone smoking weed in front of or while taking care of their child? 😐
Smh he was so off.
Because dcf acs will tell u u can smoke weed as long as you don't do it around the child so yeah he said it plus we don't know if she really did that in front of her child or if her child came back and told her God aunt that her mom smoke in front of her
Minx Doll smh he is a mess
Minx Doll yup! It’s safer the most otc drugs 🤷🏾♀️
Wtf? What are YOU smoking?
Feel bad for the plaintiff. She definitely should have went through the court and officially adopted her
The baby was legally adopted. You can't get back a baby that you adopt to a random person, so why should she get back the baby she adopted fromvher friend? That child is accustomed to all different types of living. If the child moves in with her mom, I'm pretty sure it's going to be a culture shock to say the least.
MimiJae the child was not legally adopted. She has guardianship, so the mom can get her back.
She wasn’t legally adopted
I went through this as a child, it was hard as hell. My mom was a teen mom. My middle class grandparents raised me from infancy to six years old. In first grade my mother became my primary parent (my mom wanted me, my grandparents wanted to keep me, but didn't want to be the reason my mom and I didn't have a mother daughter relationship). By 10th grade I was back with my grandparents because my mom let her boyfriend physically abuse me. I went from having all my needs meet, to living a ghetto babymama life.
yea all of that sound good until the child start getting resentment later in life..just knowledge of her biological mom is already planted and it will always draw on the child to have that bond..both sides acting a fool will cause resentment. that child not gone care about her moms past circumstances..i dont care how good that other lady is..at the end of the day, the defendant is still the mother.
@@HealingEraWithTricia I'm so sorry that happened to you. I hope you're doing well now?
Always adopt on legal grounds and it want be no problem until the child turns eighteen.
Living from house to house with children is neglect. That’s the fastest way to have children taken and placed in the system.
I disagree with how he feels about giving the bio mother her baby back
I don't disagree with her feelings, I disagree with her behavior. She's not presenting the situation as if being in her home is in the best interest of the child. She presenting like its in her own best interest. That's not how this goes.
so do i
This is the exact thing that happened to my parents twice, my "brothers" were taken back by my aunties at 4 and 10. So this last time they finally knew to go through the courts!!
If you can NOT AFFORD children, you SHOULD NOT have children.
I have been give guardianship of a child by court order till they are 18 with the request and consent of the mother. A year on and the mother behaves exactly like this one. visitation and behaviour is erratic and will not work with the system to get child back. Ironically I had looked after the mother for five years when my sister-in-law left her on my doorstep when she was 2 years old. Children need stability, safety and care; just wanting them is not enough nor is it love.
I hate when a person is asked a question and they say, Huh??? then proceeds to answer the question anyway!!! Silly, you heard me!!! Just buying time to figure out a lie.
The woman has six kids she can’t afford to take care of her self your child in a safe place focus on getting your life together stop doing drugs and stop messing with no good man and getting pregnant 🤰
qwandiddy That’s not a true statement The men I know take care of the children and a real man not deadbeats women have choices this is not the third world where women don’t have rights there’s a thing called birth-control you choose Who you sleep with so that’s not a true statement🤔 The father day if the lives with his mama don’t have a job don’t have his car he has multiple baby mamas would you still sleep with them what choice will you make😳
Well, going by the cursing from the biological mother at the end, I hope she is not granted full custody of that poor baby. She showed her true character after the case. smh. That baby deserves better, not to be the 6th child of this woman. She deserves a loving and respectful home.
Two minutes in and I can't believe what I'm hearing. She should have protected herself and the child and had the defendant sign the child over. The defendant was already going to give that child up for good, never to see her again.
Wonder why, she didn't seek legal adoption of the child, initially?
She would have been legally protected.
Guardianship is not legal adoption.
Judge Mathis is always being unfair in his feelings in what world is it okay to give up your baby for 3 months then come back when your ready that’s not how it goes she was literally giving the baby up for adoption she wouldn’t have been able to get her back then so why should she now
3 YEARS
I disagree with Judge Mathis on this one. At the beginning it was stated that the child in question was her 5th pregnancy. Then later she stated she has a total of 6 kids. Ma’am why would you give up your child & then go have another one after? You’re already struggling! They all have different dads, make it make sense.
I disagree with Judge Mathis on this one. She was willingly going to give up that child to an agency meaning she would have had no means of possibly seeing that child again. Not knowing if the adoptive parents would have given her a chance to meet the child. That woman saved the child and raised her as her own. She is UNGRATEFUL! She waited until the hardwork is done to come and take the credit at the end. Judge that is her child once the child adopted that is the parent now.
I wholeheartedly agree i just wish the god mom actually signed the adoption paperwork. They wouldnt even need court if that was done instead of the handwritten agreement they signed
I agree. She wants to make that babies life HELL
@@lifesavercandy3239 unless you can prove shes making that childs life hell..then youre just making unfounded accusations
@@ljgil850 WHAT PART OF SHE GAVE THE BABY TO AN ADOPTION AGENCY DO YOU NOT OVERSTAND?
SHE DID THAT WITH INTENT TO GIVE THE BABY AWAY.. ADOPTION AGENCY AND TEMPORARY FOSTER CARE.. UNTIL MOM GOT HERSELF TOGETHER IS 2 TOTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS...
I DON'T COMPREHEND HOW YOU ARE NOT OVERSTANDING THAT VITAL POINT..
HAD THE GODSISTER NOT STEPPED IN THE BABY WOULD HAVE BEEN ADOPTED BY ANOTHER PERSON(S).. AND SHE WOULD HAVE NO ACCESS TO THE CHILD.. SHE SHOULD BE GRATEFUL, THAT SHE GETS TO STILL SEE THE CHILD... INSTEAD OF TRYING TO CAUSE HAVOC WITH THE STABILITY OF THE CHILD.
@simone5239 She did leave her, that is a fact. She was going to leave her had the godmother not intervened and taken action. She signed over her parental rights and gave her up for adoption meaning the adoptive mother doesn't have to allow visitation or partial custody of any sort. She is her child now. She is only the biological mother and if you read between the lines she seem to have a drug issue more significant than marijuana.
You're the guardian who cares for her every day but _"DON'T KNOW"_ how she got that *BIG* bruise? That looks like someone with enough strength gripped the child while trying to get a point across and bruised her or something. _Whoever_ 🤔did it is obviously refusing to step forward, but might want to get a hold of *_themselves._* Those two plaintiffs are mean-spirited, _too good_ in their own minds and I feel concerned about the child being exposed to their failure of compassion and display of self-righteousness. It's unhealthy 😪and makes me wonder how intolerant they are in private - especially the godsister (plaintiff) who claims she "loves" her so much. What???
My heart breaks for Angel. I hope she gets to stay with her God Aunt.
All of that hollering.
I understand what the judge was saying 100 percent! She made an emotional decision while having a weak moment. She also maintained a relationship with her baby while the baby was with the friend. She wanted better for her child and until she could provide better she allowed her friend to maintain custody. At some point the baby is going to want to be with her biological mother anyway! The friend should not hinder that relationship. And if she was so unfit the courts would have taken her 5 other children. All the friend cared about was the well-being of the 1 child. None of the kids were at risk the friend was lying because she was emotionally attached.
All the bad mothers in the comments talking about "give her back her child". If she had given the child up to strangers this wouldn't even be a question. Home girl can't just change her mind now that she sees what she gave up. Focus that energy on the five that she's probably doing a trash job raising.
Lady Day Dream because someone’s views don’t match yours doesn’t make them a bad mother. I think you’re confused on the facts. First, she gave her custody and the other chick did not adopt her. So, contrary to your point legally, the child is still the mother’s child. So, eventually she will get her back. It’s now or later. The longer the other chick holds the child hostage the harder it will be for her to heal and move on.
@@Seeingisntbelieving
The Godsister has a signed paper FROM THE BIRTH MOM saying.. SHE, THE MOTHER, gave her to the her PERMANENTLY.. That paper is legal..
AT THIS POINT, THE GODSISTER NEED TO PETITION THE COURT TO LEGALLY ADOPT THE CHILD THAT SHE HAD HAD SINCE SHE WAS 5 DAYS TIL 3 YRS OLD..
THE MOTHER LEFT HER AT THE ADOPTION AGENCY.. TF.. SHE WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THE BABY WAS.. IF THE GODSISTER DIDN'T STEP IN..
@@INDIGO.GODDESS_573 thank you. They don't want to hear that tho. 💯
@simone5239 girl don't waste your time on these idiots.
He the woman talking about she raised another grown woman, they look the same age
Black dont crack you know this. Lol
omar bagent 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sad, sad, sad😔, I hurt for the baby! She gave the child up, but clearly under stress and not the best circumstances. Unfortunately they didn’t go to court in the beginning and make it a legal adoption. I doubt that paper will hold in court and mom will likely get her daughter back. God sister needs get on mom’s good side like the judge said
She legally adopted the child. The mother terminated her rights. Thata why the judge won't give custody back. It would be traumatic for the child to gi back to her bio mother now. If the bio mother was as stable as she claims the judge wouldn't keep stripping her access to the child away. It was said in court that she doesn't even have the rights to visitation.
lime light bingo
That's not always true my mother had her rights taken away and she was very stable had a job a house nd food and I wanted to be with her sometimes the judge believes that if they were taken or signed away they were not loved nd for that is not stable to be with but it should be what the child wants plus u guys are basing this all by this one segment no one knows what really goes on like her God sister can't explain why their is bruises on the arm plus when it comes to drug test they make u do one when u step into the courts to see your child if u fail you can't see the child as the God sister said she still sees her and has visits as the mom says she has 5 others it doesn't matter where the fathers are at they could be dead or in jail it could be one father or plenty we don't even know the age of her other children she asked her family for help nd what judges do is even after adoption even though it's hard is give the parents back custody plus the true character of her God sister came out at the end it seems like each time the mom did try to talk she would be cut off by her sister nd how they came nd attacked her with their words u know they wanted the money u can tell clearly they both care for the child nd at least the girl knows her mom so no one can say anything if anything if they have to wait till she is 18 the daughter would know who she really wants to have a relationship with it can be both, one or the other or neither of them we will never know, but I feel like it's ok to change her mind and at least she been trying to get her child back nd not just saying it and not even contact their children
For him to say it's ok for her to have the baby back when she already has 5 kids going from house to house left me speechless! So its ok to be homeless not really knowing how long is gonna take for the people helping you to get fed up with your now 6kids, weed smoking, no working ass and kick you out? Mother of the year trying to bring another kid to her caos instead of being less selfish and let her be raise by this woman who loves her and just have visitation.
@@jennysantana1687 she said she has w2 cuz she is working that she was going house to house but she is stable
@simone5239 true
This case had my nerves frazzled!😵 The defendant comes across as ungrateful. Judge Mathis really tried to give her the benefit of the doubt & she blew it. Hopefully they can come to an agreement for the sake of the child.
So I'm curious as to when did the other 5children occur. Seems that some were before babygirl in question. Why give her up if mom already had children? Why cont to have more after if she hadn't regained custody of babygirl? I pray for all involved.
I can’t side with either this is sad 😩😩😢
Like judge MATHIS said they both should try to get along and respect each other and both of them have the same respect to the child.
@Milk Bone neither are you, tho
I would feel used if I was the godmother. Because she wouldn't want the baby if someone else had her. I'll just let the child go! Even if this means she is suffering with poverty with mother. Biological mother knows she cannot raise 6 kids alone. SMDH. Overall, I feel sorry for the children.
I’m with the Judge on this one. Unless she has proof that woman was out in the streets on drugs or something, she should have her child. It sucks she got attached but she’s not the biological mother. But the flip side of that is the woman shot herself in the foot by stating that she could have her child “full term” on the paper the Judge was shown
Full term was why the plaintiff was able to be attached confidently; and plaintiff let's the bio mom take the child weekends unless the bio mom cancels.
when you give your child up for adoption you don't plan on getting the child back it should be the same for this situation,
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That's all I'm saying..
I dont agree with the judge not having a home is unstable
This is why I refuse to adopt.
Give that woman her child back!
Exact reason why I will never ever in my life give one of my kids to nobody I don’t care ever we will struggle together because this lady feel she’s entitled to take this woman child
I have seen it too many times. Eventually, that child is going to want her mother, because they idealized it in their head. They feel some kinda way because they can't understand why they were given away but not the other kids. It's a mess. This is just a lot of heartbreak all around. Ghetto adoption in these modern times do not work, actually never did.
This is one of the reasons that inter-family adoption is a bad idea. If the baby had been adopted by strangers she would never have to deal with her birth "mother".
5th🤰🏿??? Whatever keeping your 🦵🏿🦵🏿closed??? Wow!!! 🤔🤦🏽♀️
This is incredibly alarming
She was going to give her child up for adoption why is the judge so hard on the woman that took the baby in?🥴
You suing her for emotional stress because she took care of YOUR child but won’t sue yourself 🤨🙄
I totally disagree with the judge on this one
They're playing bitter baby mama with one another.
Facts
She needs to have her baby back
If the mom would have left her at the adoption agency we wouldn’t even be having this court case !!!!You can’t wake up one days after they’re shipped off and say okay now I want her again.This case was messed up
Ain't nothing "Honorable" about this Judge.
Exactly
If she was originally giving the child up for adoption she wouldn't be able to get her back. So why should she be able to get the baby back from her God sister. I feel once she signed over her rights that's it.
EXACTLY.
ANYONE WHO THINKS OTHERWISE.. HAS NOT LOGICALLY EXAMINED THE SITUATION THOROUGHLY..
IT'S REALLY NOT THAT HARD TO COMPREHEND..
Very hard case. Dang..
Stop having kids with no plans ! For the love of God
I love Judge Mathis however sometimes he takes things personal, however when your on that stand you have to remove your personal emotions and understand both sides
" But I seen the window move Angelina"
"Maybe da fan is own" lol
the judge is wrong. Severe poverty is a reason for removal. I only wished that lady completed the adoption when she first got the child.
Give that baby back and We as Black men need to get our families in order
the god sister is most likely the better guardian but if she wants to stay in that child’s life, she needs to get along with the biological mother.. bottom line.
@Amma Boamah-Appiah doesn't matter, the mother obviously wants her back and is willing to fight for her. if a judge decides that the biological mother can get her back, the god sister will never see that child again. it makes more sense for all parties involved to make peace.
tyrathethird very true.
@@tyrathethird ima need the mom to pay that 3 years of child support plus some for the extra money the god sister spent on her child if she wants her back period. Wtf she thought this was? This lady provided for the child with no financial help from her. Definitely not right to just take her after giving her the impression she will raise this child as her own. This almost a scam on the mothers part. All them diapers and wipes this lady provided she should be ashamed.
SHE (DIRECTLY) GAVE THE CHILD TO AN ADOPTION AGENCY, TO BE GIVEN AWAY..
ADOPTION IS PERMANENT, GUARDIANSHIP IS NOT.
SHE DID NOT GIVE THE GODSISTER GUARDIANSHIP.. THE GODSISTER STEP UP, SO THE CHILD WOULDN'T BE GIVEN AWAY TO RANDOM STRANGERS..
HAD THE GODSISTER NOT STEPPED UP, THE CHILD WOULD BE LONG GONE.. DO YOU THINK SHE COULD JUST GO OUT AND DEMAND THE BABY BACK HAD THE CHILD BEEN ADOPTED BY STRANGERS?
NO. SHE COULDN'T DO THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT HOW ANY OF THAT WORKS..
IN AN ADOPTION, EVEN AFTER SIGNING PAPERS.. THE BIRTH MOTHER HAS 48HRS TO CHANGE HER MIND.. NOT 3 YEARS.. SHE NEED TO STOP HARASSING THAT LADY AND BE GLAD SHE CAN STILL LAY EYES ON HER CHILD THAT SHE ABANDONED🙄🙄🙄..
Why is this hard to COMPREHEND?
@@INDIGO.GODDESS_573 girl she signed a whole ass letter please sit down with all that. If that was the case the state would of been gave her her child. The real question is did she sign the birth certificate
What if the child was adopted from another country?
Ladies, you've got to settle this amicably
Can we talk about how beautiful Mrs. Mathis is sitting in the front row?
That’s her child she should be able to see her child and fight for custody back. She was in a tough spot but is fighting to have her child. That’s all that really matters. The plaintiff is acting like she birthed the child. Make sure that child can see her mother anytime she wants.