Pro 3 vs. Matriarch vs. MS-20: Holistic Comparison
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
- Three of the best monos out there, what effects might they have on you as a player and sound designer?
Sequential Pro 3: bit.ly/3hzKuJY
Moog Matriarch: bit.ly/3mB4nTE
Korg MS-20 FS: Reverb or Craigslist
Korg NTS-1: bit.ly/33bcFun
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00:00 Intro
02:21 Identifiable MS-20 Patch
03:34 Matriarch Imitating MS-20
05:40 Pro 3 Imitating MS-20
07:00 Identifiable Matriarch Patch
08:46 Pro 3 Imitating Matriarch
10:25 MS-20 Imitating Matriarch
11:36 Identifiable Pro 3 Patch
13:26 Matriarch Imitating Pro 3
14:55 MS-20 Imitating Pro 3
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I wasn’t expecting that but.. Pro 3 for everything. Unless one wants an old sounding hyper raw sound of course. Then MS-20 (obviously).
Great programming! I love all these sounds very much! You found such beautiful deep tones on all 3 of these synths!
This is almost the exact setup I'm looking at (minus the pro 3) so it's great seeing them working together, helps out a ton on what to buy, thanks!
Let me know if you do buy one, I’m curious to know what you hear
Your videos give my pro 3 always more value, keep on making these!
Haha thanks! I have another Pro 3 video coming out next, I'm pretty excited about it.
@@WaveDashMagazine my phone will let me know when its available, cant wait 🤟
Always gravitate towards your vids. Good sounds good vibes
You make them all sound equally great
Wow ! The NTS 1 is a great addition to the MS20… they all sound great, but the MS 20 has too much of a personality… It’s unique IMO. Great sounding synths! Like them all! Thanks for sharing!
Yeah the NTS-1 goes perfectly with the MS-20! I just need to figure out a good way to mount it to the top or something to keep them together, the NTS-1 is so lightweight it moves around a lot.
Great video and really shows off how great the MS20 sounds. I ordered a clone to use alongside my Grandmother. I really like these raw kinds of synths.
The Pro3 sounded great on the last patch, but I didn’t like it in the others. That said, the other synths did a great job with that last one as well and I honestly preferred them in that case too. This has really helped me to understand what kind of synth sounds I prefer.
Great meditations on synthesis 🧘
wonderful video thank you
Excellent experiment! Nice sound designs. All a matter of taste I suppose. I’d love to see a conclusion at the end of your thoughts.
Thank you! Yes I like that idea
Darn! that MS-20 is such a lovely synth, loads of personality definitively. Man!! how could you ditch the Pro 3? (have you re-bought it already?)
Pro 3 is a beeeast.
Hello there. Great informative video! Was wondering how you have patched up the ms20 "imitating" the matriarch? Love that patch and like to recreate it with mine :) Best, Roland
Thanks! I decoupled the oscillators by patching Keyboard CV -> sample and hold -> Osc 2 Frequency. The S+H clock comes from the Keyboard Gate. Step 2 is to connect Env 1 to the Amp Gain, that way the filter envelope and amp envelope can be different. Finally I modulated the cutoff of the LPF with the LFO. No resonance on the filters...The tape delay on the Korg NTS-1 brings us much closer too.
Woah the MS20 was my favorite Moog patch. Pro 3; just a little to sharp, glassy. Matriarch a little too round and soft. MS20 was just right for me. Didn't expect that.
That's a great way of putting it! I think I feel the same way...it's definitely the least touchy as far as filter cutoffs, huge sweet spots everywhere.
MS-20 my love !
classic synth dude
Damn, I have been considering selling my MS-20 to fund a new mono. Think I’ll be sticking with it! So much more explore on this beast.
Ooh, yeah I can never sell my MS-20....what were you considering swapping it out for?
@@WaveDashMagazine I was between the Matriarch, Pro 3 and Subsequent 37. The Taiga looks like fun too and may be nice to have in addition to the MS-20. I’m also watching the development of the PWM Mantis. The MS-20 was my first love in synthesis, so in the end, I think it would be a shame to sell. I may need to challenge my songwriting and sound design rather than swapping out gear.
Matriarch's delay is so great.
i like that squelchy, dirty sound of the ms20 filter.
Yeah it never gets old!
can you do a video recreating the pro 3 patch at 11:38? liking that
Yeah, great idea!
which reverb are u using on the identifiable pro 3 patch? and is the wobble from an lfo which is modulating pitch or shape mod? great work here!
Thanks, good ears! The lfo is modulating pitch and changes rate with keyboard cv, and the reverb is Super Plate, my favorite settings are size: 190, tone: 38, pre-delay: 5
@@WaveDashMagazine much apreeesh! didn't know that the reverb can sound like that, nice!
Ms20 is a real noise machine
Haha yeah there’s a significant amount of post-filter white noise that comes with every key trigger!
thank you for sharing :
I am into Pro 3
and want to choose between Moog Studio (complete Set Moog Mother-32, DFAM and Subharmonicon) or Matriarch
what will you recommend ??
I think you’ll get more out of the Moog Sound Studio, you can always use the keyboard from the Pro 3 to control and enhance it. It’s a totally different instrument though! Like if we pretended that the Pro 3 and Matriarch were guitars then the Moog Sound Studio would be more of a drum set.
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Thank you 🙏
I will go then to Pro 3 and Moog Studio 🙏
Many thanks again
You can hear the overtones in the MS20 are harmonically rich and musical. I like my Pro 3 a lot, but would consider the MS20. I'm selling my Matriarch as I can only keep one and the ability of the Pro 3 to save patches makes it practical in my line of music making...
Sounds reasonable, the Pro 3 has such a vast sonic palette, it’s like having 3 synths
I'm surprised by the MS-20's performance here (or rather your performance with it). My takeaways are not at all what I had expected when I began the video. I thought the Matriarch would be my favorite (as an owner of one, I thought that might bias me). But the MS-20 had a full, rich presence . The Matriarch on the other hand was dark, simmering and brooding easily. The Pro 3 felt most articulate, focused.
MS-20 comes in first for me, followed by Pro-3, then Matriarch. Totally thought it would be exact opposite. I think I'll go dust off my MS-20 mini now =))
I was impressed with the MS-20 too! Adding effects to it really made me realize how much it shines when put on a level playing field with the others. The Matriarch sounds awesome with the filters in series too, but there’s a little less play in the knobs since the filter slopes are steeper. And the Pro 3’s digital HPF is definitely a weakness but with all the other distortion options it makes up for it
you can make the Moog Matriarch more Brighter It's possible
I’m surprised how bland the pro 3 sounds. Matriarch and ms20 sound incredible. Thanks for the video!