The Family Stone (2/3) Movie CLIP - This Isn't Coming Out Right (2005) HD
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Meredith (Sarah Jessica Parker) makes the mother of all insults when talking about Thad's (Tyron Giordano) homosexuality, and inadvertantly his deafness.
FILM DESCRIPTION:
A woman meets her future in-laws and discovers they don't much care for her in this comedy from writer and director Thomas Bezucha. Everett Stone (Dermot Mulroney) is a successful young businessman who is dating Meredith Morton (Sarah Jessica Parker), and has asked her to spend Christmas with his family, with plans to ask his mother, Sybil (Diane Keaton), for the titular family wedding band and propose to Meredith on Christmas Day. Meredith is more than a bit nervous about meeting Everett's folks, and things only get worse when they arrive -- Meredith is by her nature straight-laced and a bit uptight around strangers, while Sybil and family patriarch Kelly (Craig T. Nelson) are free-thinkers who, except for Everett, have raised a family of cheerfully rebellious children, most notably younger daughter Amy (Rachel McAdams), older brother Ben (Luke Wilson), and adopted sibling Thad (Tyrone Giordano), who is both deaf and gay. Meredith and the Stone family do not get along well at first, especially Sybil, who is appalled at the prospect of Everett giving Meredith the family's heirloom wedding ring; in dire need of moral support, Meredith asks her younger sister, Julie (Claire Danes), to join her for Christmas with the Stones. However, the plan runs into a snag when Everett's head is turned by pretty Julie, and Meredith finds herself on the receiving end of attention from slobby Ben.
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Courtesy of Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation
Cast: Elizabeth Reaser, Sarah Jessica Parker, Rachel McAdams, Diane Keaton, Claire Danes, Luke Wilson, Brian J. White, Craig Nelson, Dermot Mulroney, Tyrone Giordano
Director: Thomas Bezucha
Producers: Khristina Kravas, Mindy Marin, Jennifer Ogden, Melissa Strickland, Michael London
Screenwriter: Thomas Bezucha
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They did so well on making this scene as awkward as possible
It should be awkward. It is awkward. I promise.
This is kind of moment when you have to agree to disagree to end a discussion. Sharing one's view is enough . . . but over explaining it may sound being too pushy or forceful. We end the discussion not because we concede, but because we value relationships and give respect as well to those people.
Exactly sir Jessica Parker does a great job at being awkward in this part she does come off as being pushy
This isn't a discussion like republican vs democrat, where you each hold different values and they each have equal weight as opinion. This is like someone who won't admit that gravity is real or the sky is blue. SJP characters view is wrong and born from her own hangups. You don't agree to disagree with someone's dangerous opinion about a scientific fact.
They were getting the impression she's homophobic when she's not so I understand why she was trying to fix it lol. But yeah she should've just stayed quiet from the start.
@@chadsilva6942Huh? What "scientific facts?". She was just expressing concerns based on her very valid cultural background. Funny you mentioned Rs vs D's, because the refusal to acknowledge *real* facts is why the division in America is incurable, is totally fostered by the anti-American left, and is why no one on the left should be supported by anyone in the right. They're whack jobs just like this self righteous family is.
Meredith was misunderstood
I think she just should have stopped after the first "That's enough"
...it’s a fictional movie......
Exactly. After then when she tried explaining herself it only made it worse. He told her politely to stop yet she kept going.
No she shouldn’t of said anything
Or when the mother talks about the drapes.
Meredith tried to elaborate her point of view
I honestly understand the parents reaction, I would have react the same if someone talk like that to my children lol
isak cardamon same here. ESP on a nice family dinner
Talked like what? She made a valid point.
@@lovelyrita2481 noup she didn’t, it was pure homophobia
@@isakcardamon3390 I respectfully disagree.
@@lovelyrita2481 I dont get why you replied if you didnt agree, like having a debate about this topics are unnecessary like if you belief that being a conservative is more important than human rights then is a waste of time to talk about this
Meredith certainly wasn't coming from a place of hate, nor did she intentionally try to be disrespectful. If anything, it was pure ignorance.
However she really overstepped her boundaries, continuing to explain what she meant, even after she was told, "that's enough." All she had to do was just stop talking after the first "that's enough."
She just made it worse by continuing to talk.
And sure, they weren't very friendly to her at all from the very beginning, and you could argue that there were times when she tried to fit in, but you also have to understand where they are coming from, in this scene, when they express anger at her over her words.
TokyoQueen ahhhhh perfectly said!!! I felt she genuinely didn’t mean ill will towards them, she was just looking at it from another perspective that held no open minded characteristics. She overstepped for sure but I can also see why she did. She’s used to explaining, making a point in general. Winning arguments I assume. And when she did that, she got cornered.
But I love that the brother stepped in and took her out. She needed him which is why they ended up together. Balance.
Perfectly said.
Any reason why u tried to justify a role in a fictional movie??
@@TheIncredibleOne628 hey, you, it’s an analysis. Why can’t people dissect very real, very relatable topics and conversations that take place in FICTIONAL movies? What is a comment section if not for people discussing the content?
@@RyNotBri lol calm down Dr. Phil..
I cringed when she kept going on and on...trying to make it sound "good". Then the "normal child" phrase and that was it. The writing is really good in the dinner scene.
IMO there is a balance... its been over reached. far over reached at this point.
You hafta be a very hypersensitive individual.
I’m so tired of people making the ignorant person out to be the victim. Just because you relate to that person doesn’t make them the victim.
Bad writting isnt a crime, so there are no victims, well except for the viewers maybe
Yep. Ignorance can (and should) be cured. No excuses.
They don’t mean to make them the “victim”. I only react to her because I’m awkward and say the wrong things too (not about sexual orientations of course just other things) but I don’t see myself as a victim. I hate being put on the spot because I don’t handle these things well. I’m not perfect. No one is. I just feel bad for making a situation worse and hurting someone by accident but I do end up apologizing and acknowledge I have no excuse as well as say “I had no excuse.” Just because I sympathize with someone’s awkwardness because I can relate, doesn’t mean I victimize them. I know there’s no excuse. They were rude to her to begin with. Not saying that excuses her but I don’t blame her for being imperfect and nervous around them after they’ve been so unwelcoming and mean. She just needs to stop trying so hard. She didn’t mean it how it sounded. She just worded it wrong. But when people tell you to stop talking, stop talking, apologize, and move on. I did learn to do that eventually and stop trying to correct my wording. I even get awkward around my closest family members so it is harder for me to talk to people outside of my family. She’s not a victim and the movie doesn’t mean to make her that way. Just someone you can relate too. While I do empathize with the character, I know when she messes up and cringe because it reminds me of me. Nothing hurts more than y’all mistaking that with a victim mentality. This scene makes me sad since I’ve been there when I say the wrong things but that’s not the same as seeing myself as a “victim”. Just someone who makes mistakes and feels bad about them. We hurt people even though we don’t mean to. Sometimes, it’s easier to see someone else’s ignorance and shortcomings rather than our own. But for me, I relate to her and it helps me to recognize my own flaws and what to do and what not to do. Maybe that’s the point of this scene and the character. But it doesn’t make her a bad person. She is flawed. And that’s okay. We can learn how to handle things at the end.
@@ashebennett7726
No one is perfect.
Exactly
I love when Craig t nelson raises his temper. Shows how much he loves his son.
Mr. Incredible ALWAYS loses his temper. And it is sooooo hilarious!
This is unconditional love. She was being insensitive. Some people are so quick to condemn and isolate someone for not being like them. His mother raised him to know that he is just as special as anyone else. We have to stop isolating people unless you’re willing to take the time to really empathize by understanding what it feels like to walk in the other person shoes shut tf up. What she was saying was indirectly hateful. Who tf was she to pass judgment on him. Nobody
Diane Keaton and Craig T. Nelson... two great actors.
B. N. Willis yes they are!
The ever AMAZING Diane Keaton!
This was so cringeworthy to view. For her to say what she said, which was incredibly ignorant, rose to the level of being disrespectful. The family was taken aback at first before Kelly very calmly corrected her. That "should" have been the end of it right then and there, but she kept arguing her point. I don't believe she was being hateful on purpose, but instead had no idea how hurtful her words were, nor did she understand when to leave well enough alone. And, to do that as a guest in someone's house was beyond good taste. Did Kelly and Sybil need to shout her down like that? Maybe not, but I understand where they're coming from.
Agustin Camejo Kelly actually was being calm and diplomatic when he explained the family's position, and the first time he said, "That's enough." If she had just let it go instead of continuing her argument, it would have played out differently. Like you said, while I do not, as it were, agree with the outbursts, I understand why they were angry.
Sybil and Kelly are the type of parents who accept their children no matter what. It was so sweet to see how they have accepted Patrick and dote on Thad. For someone to come into their house and say the things she said, is disrespectful. No one is commenting on it, why would you and that too in front of the entire family. Then she had the nerve to get mad at Everett that he didn't stick up for her. I mean hello, you hurt his brother by what you were trying to ask.
@@TheSafiera95 what was so hurtful ?!!!!! She had a valid point.....there are challenges!!!!
R S challenges brought on by people like her
I very much love this film because of the representation and inclusion of other communities. Like the way they added a deaf character and used ASL for majority time whenever around the very character was incredible for me to witness. And they shoved out stereotypes about each character's trait and stuff. This is the family Ima have if i have kids. One where no one is left behind or excluded 👏👏
Also highlighting that deaf doesn’t mean you don’t hear anything or understand anything. It’s a spectrum
Did you actually watch the movie? Meredith was constantly left out and excluded.
@@sarahj30 lol it’s my favorite movie and she was never left out or excluded.
this movie makes me sob every damn time. my mom and i watch it every year. i won't be able to watch it after she's gone. ugh. she's just like keaton.
Meredith was doomed the moment she stepped in the door
I don’t think the film meant to do this, but Meredith strikes me as being on the spectrum, or at least struggling with social anxiety. The way that she worries, the way that she insists on trying to clarify what she meant only to make it worse, and the way that her outgoing and friendly sister Julie is the only person that understands her mannerisms and quirks. The cautious way Julie said “….I know how she can seem” made me feel like she’s had to dig her out of uncomfortable conversations for most of their lives.
Not at all. Knowing people "on the spectrum," that's not what was happening here at all. She is the average conservative-minded asking valid questions hoping to just have a discussion and understanding of different points of view, while not wanting to offend a new family that is much, much different from hers. They could've engaged her with patience and respect, but chose to mock and belittle her all in collusion with each other instead. Because of that, she felt a constant need to try to cushion the situation, but they absolutely refused to allow her to...because they're self-righteous elitist types.
Oh please. All of a sudden people show quirks and they’re “on the spectrum” 🤣 Gtfoh
@@rolandvox2599 I’m on the spectrum and I found similarities.
She also has her throat clearing habit.
Even though Diane Keaton is a actress of comedy why does she get me everytime in these serious moments? tears.....
Repost from another comment I made:
I felt she genuinely didn’t mean ill will towards them, she was just looking at it from another perspective that held no open minded characteristics. She overstepped for sure but I can also see why she did. She’s used to explaining, making a point in general. Winning arguments I assume. And when she did that, she got cornered.
But I love that the brother stepped in and took her out. She needed him which is why they ended up together. Balance.
As someone who is hard of hearing and at risk of losing their hearing at any age(I was told twenties but I'm 26 and still have it thankfully) I am not offended by what she said and understand where she was coming from.
However..when someone warns you the first time you really should stop there. Cause then it becomes really insulting
She was talking about homosexuality not about the hearing problem
@@framboise9995 she wasn't trashing homosexuality.....her point was that it can be a more difficult life which IS TRUE. Society can be cruel as was her point.
@@lovelyrita2481 What ? I think you need to read the original comment
Especially considering it wasn’t her house or really even her family. She’s a guest so she should have taken every hint (direct or indirect) that was given. If you’re told to stop it, then you stop it.
Meredith clearly overstepped. She was told it was enough yet she kept going. That’s be disrespectful and totally ignorant. Idk if I like her character tbh.
Such a great scene! Amazing acting all around!
I hope for my child to be happy. Gay or straight. Trans or cis. As long as they are healthy and happy, I'm happy and will love them, support them and will be their rock until the day I die.
Witchy Rose It’s rare to find beautiful uplifting positive messages on a CZcams comments section, I would give this a thousand likes 🙏
Red Boah Sutherland Cis is just a word that categorizes those who don’t deviate from identifying with their birth gender. Yes, the word is made up... just like every other word that ever existed. And it has meaning, just as every other word does. Your point?
@Red Boah Sutherland Oh God🤦♀️ with every nice comment there's a smart aas idiot ready to ruin it.
@@jamesbisonet3302 True. Whatever this Cis thing is I've never heard of it or could care less! ....Just had to Google it. It's not a word it's a prefix and has nothing to do with the initial lovely comment.
@@Jocelyn_Jade It's not a word at all. It's a prefix. Your point??
I kind of wish this was part of a series just so we could get more context in their lives.
I agree!
The should have just educated her and explained why she was wrong. Countering ignorance with hostility is not such a good idea.
And it's a bit hard for me to believe that Meredith and Julie are sisters since there is nothing similar about their personalities and Julie didn't even go to her sister. She was asked to be there to support her and she did not. It's so unbelievable how she easily feels comfortable with the family to not feel that much concern for her sister.
Educated her?? They’re the ones who couldn’t comprehend what “challenged” meant. And said nothing about the race related question that Clair asked.
Her sister was just as terrible as the family
@@epiphannytaylor3211 OMG Trueee!!!
@@epiphannytaylor3211 they did try before this scene they announced they believed his orientation was a predisposition like his hair or eye color
This is one of dianes best roles. Great movie!
I love my Mom obviously, but in another life I want Diane Keaton to be my Mom!
The mother was right to yell. I wouldn’t want someone to be explaining why they think a mother wouldn’t want a gay child. She shouldn’t have said that in the first place.
Lucky she didn't hurt someone when she threw that fork. I thought she was quite rude, even though she 'came around' later on. Diane is awesome, though! I love her in every movie she stars in.
That was extremely painful to watch and I think that’s what makes this a good film, it’s so real and relatable to an extent.
While I feel like it’s ok to share opinions in conversation, there is a time and a place to this. So in my opinion, which is worth nothing lol, sjp’s character was wrong to push the envelope.
This scene between mother and son is beautiful
This is like one of my all time favorite movies and winter time it's got a good storyline behind it. 🌲🌹🌻🌲🌲🌲
I love this movie! The first time I saw it, I thought it was just okay. It grew on me the second time. I have watched it numerous times.
I love this movie! The first time I saw it I thought it was just okay, but it grew on me big time!
Obviously not much education was given to the cast as far as the ASL language goes. Cause Diane didn't not sign a single word right.
You're right. I read that she was just dreadful at signing and had a really difficult time with the scenes that required it in this movie.
Does it matter? They've done this with real languages as well. For example Dutch where they act like they're actually Dutch and have obviously tried to learn it for the movie/tv show but honestly don't sound Dutch at all. It might be weird for people that know the language, real or sign but at the same time you can't expect actors/actresses to just properly learn that stuff. Maybe sign is easier than an actual language I have no clue but for the people that do not know it comes off as if it's perfect, lol.
I agree, sad we have come to accept this when we have real Deaf & HOH that could do the role better.
@@OGSarah the mother wasn't deaf or HOH, so why should an actress who is deaf or HOH have played her?
she signed “love” and “you” correctly 🤪
It is amazing how this movie hits alot of the notes....
Keaton again is amazing. And she is monstrously funny in this movie.
Very uncomfortable scene
@@seandomhnallosullivan2544 I had to turn the channel. It made conservatives look bad. But that's Hollywood for ya. Liberal bigots, themselves. Many conservatives are gay too
Yep very discomforting
I love when even Everett turns on her lol
The thing I hate most about this scene is that no one even tries to simply acknowledge where Meredith is coming from, not even her bf, and that’s why she kept pushing her point through because she felt like she wasn’t being understood. Yes, it was in very poor taste on her part but her points are valid. The closed-minded and judgmental attitude of the Stone family is worse.
i mean although it wasn’t intentional she’s literally insulting their son and son in law to their faces, she is not the victim here and the family has every right to be offended
@@cherrymidniqht Yes, she insulted the son (and family) but it was clearly unintentional and based off ignorance and concern from her worldview, not hate. Our culture needs to stop the reactionary self-righteousness because that is what has got us into the mess we are in now. Instead, we can listen to each other and have civil disagreements and teach people their wrongs with kindness and understanding, instead of hostility and acting like anyone who is not with us is against us.
Not saying the family didn’t have a right to get offended. Meredith was in the wrong here, but in my opinion, had I been there, I would have at least tried to keep the peace and bridged the gap in the misunderstanding - because that’s all it was: a misunderstanding.
Yes I totally agree with you and tbh I didn’t really expect much from the bf in this scene because from the beginning he wasn’t really doing much in helping her while the family was treating her like complete crap.
She did not know when to SHUT UP even when told politely MANY times. With every sentence she could see the growing discomfort of the family and kept going...
@@ladymondegreen They did all that, very calmly and politely. She kept going. That's what led to their outburst. It's one thing to talk like this to someone in passing or in a comments section, but to do that as a guest in someone's house, at their dinner table, is beyond the pale of good taste. I'll agree that she was coming from a position of ignorance and not hatred. But, for her to double down on her comments after being corrected politely and then calmly being told to can it was extremely rude. The outburst might not have been necessary, but I don't blame them at all. Had I been Meredith, I am not sure I would have reacted much differently.
Actually I see Meredith's point here she just chooses her word poorly.
But I can also understand the frustration of the family right there.
Well acted by the cast, it was extremely uncomfortable to watch!
i love all the wonder of this movie.
Not one person is likable in this scene.
Specially Meredith.
@@the.basaurio especially The Stones
The mum and dad defending their child from hurtful comments and reassuring him he’s amazing in a cruel world that’s desperate to make him think otherwise? You found that unlikeable? How odd.
The family was really rude to her
Yes, they had it in for her before she came through the door! Poor thing was nervous, and that kid! UGH!
I agree! They had it in for her before she walked through the door! And that kid, ruining her good shoes!
@Mad Media I agree totally. That boyfriend of hers was no help!
@@paulinejordan6905 IKR??
Red Boah Sutherland do you think this is a certain form of payback?
Great scene! I felt it to my core! Well done!
they are very hard with the girl. maybe life is hard enough like she says but for her... she didn't mean to hurt anybody, just expressing honestly. and she needs to speak... she is in war with herself inside and the step family didn't bring anything positive in replying, even traumatising her that way..
There's no excuse for her ignorance and offensiveness.
Well appearently, her parents didn't teach her any discrecy so niw she says whatever she thinks is on her mind. I think it was a life kesson for her so she could change
@@modernworld9239 Why is she ignorant and offensive? This was not a discussion on loving a child. It was a discission on the challenges that the child will face.
Honestly, people have valid perspectives but it's tough to actually discuss these things and get along so it's better not to. This debate is not going to end and people have valid reasons for expressing concerns but valid reasons for being annoyed at those concerns too.....
IT'S ENOUGH!!
Meredith was tge only sane person in this movie
Perfect subject to broach on this occasion! The outrage was more about the impertinence than her argument itself, and rightly so.
Her sister should of had her back lol
Just goes to show you can say hateful things without hateful intent. Ignorance can only be an excuse the first time.
What did she say that was hateful?
@@TomRipley7350 you're joking right?
@@thomaslyons2274 No, I'm not. She's not saying there's anything wrong with being gay. She's simply saying that you wouldn't actively wish to have a gay child because it will be difficult for the child, and that is a fact. I know. I'm gay. It's difficult being discriminated against, so why would you choose it? She's not saying that if you do have a gay child it is in some way deficient. There was a ridiculous overreaction to what she said. I would have been the first to defend her.
Tom Ripley It made me wish the family was kinder to her. More than one person to prompt her nicely. U could tell she meant no ill will but is just so very socially awkward & having a hard time with deeply felt strong opinions.. She’s just a very uptight nice person.. She would’ve been ok with a polite, conservative, reserved family, perhaps.
@@TomRipley7350 So there's nothing hateful or ignorant about her comment on a "normal child"? Lmao.
So much tolerance from the whole table.
An elitist, self-righteous family that capitalized in collusion with each other on a guest's attempt to share a difference of opinion by making fun of and belittling her. She made it more than abundantly clear she had no ill intent whatsoever. What a sick family.
Can somebody please solve the mystery of what Sybil signs to Ben at the table?
She said it out loud. lol. Turn up the volume.
@@EphemeralProductions is not in this clip. It’s earlier at the table.
Omg Craig T Nelson! That's Mr. Incredible!
Is there a way to add more clips to this movie? Let me know if you can, Movieclips.
Almost broke my back cringing at this scene 😂🤣
I hated this scene. Instead of calmly discussing Meredith's point of view, which I think makes a lot of sense, they shut her down and treated her like some racist antigay asshole. She doesn't dislike the biracial gay couple or treat them with disrespect, she is just curious and concerned. Rather than belittle her, they should try to educate her. Yes, no parent wants their children to face added hardships in life - whether they be related to race or sexual orientation, but you have to deal with the hand you've been dealt with in life and find some way to make it work. If they explained to Meredith that their son's condition was unexpected and abnormal, but a secret blessing come later in life, I think she would've understood a lot better and the tension at the dinner table could have been pacified.
Maybe if she'd been a family member (by marriage) her point would've been heard but she wasn't, she over stepped her place, and given the context of the subject matter of the film it was just really awful timing. I agree to a point but it's important to know when to speak and not to. This was NOT the time.
I understood what she meant until the "normal child" comment.
I agree but I still felt bad for Meredith. She was so uptight and socially awkward and the family, instead of trying to make her feel welcome during her stay, treated her like crap from the very beginning.
TheLuna12346 It's hard to discuss something like this calmly with someone who is so goddamn obnoxious...especially when the subject is your child.
TheLuna12436 They did do that. "Meredith, most of us believe sexual orientation to be a result of a genetic predisposition, much like handedness." And the first time she was told, very calmly, "That's enough," it would have been a good idea to let it go, but she kept talking. While I agree, she was not being intentionally hateful, she had no idea why what she said was so incredibly hurtful. She was not, again, coming from a position of hatred but was, instead, very ignorant. If you don't understand something, it's always better to ask questions than to offer commentary.
Jessica Sarah Parker is a fantastic actress!
The irony of this scene (and it's really a great awkward scene) is that SJP is very pro-LGBTQ+ in real life.
I love that they allowed for this discussion.
The lack of cultural accuracy in this scene is ridiculous. His mom knows that much ASL and yet she yells "Hey You!" and throws a utensil at his plate to get his attention? I have friends and family that know less ASL than her and yet, they all know to tap the table or flick a light when they want my attention.
I think in that moment she was frustrated and sad to see him withdrawing.
Even though it was annoying of him to be offended and one thing but not the other
Little did she know she might have just saved his life.
“I just think that any parent would want a normal child.” I would have kicked her out of the house. How dare she
I agree with her.
This was so over-the-top.
She had a point but came out 100% wrong
It looked like she was trying to make Thaddeus feel bad about himself or something ..... Correct me if I'm wrong
Yasmine Springfield I cannot say I agree that was her desired outcome, but she accomplished it all the same. Referring to Thad as, "abnormal," was insulting, but she didn't understand why.
Super late. I think Meredith meant well but was super ignorant on the entire subject as many people were during this time frame. This was filmed in 2004 and being gay was not nearly as accepted as it is now...still have a ways to go though.
Do people genuinely think she's homophobic? The movie made it very clear that she's extremely socially awkward and anxious. That she just doesn't say things right and has word vomit.
She should've just stayed quiet and did say things wrong but I don't get why people think it came from a place of malice.
Oh yeah we go again..we have a little money nice home prominence..dont question us!!
The valid point was made. People are so antagonized by the truth.
Rachel MacAdams and Elizabeh Reaser seem so nice here
1:10
I don't think I've ever hated a family more, lol. For people who supposedly embrace differences, they sure were self-righteously intolerant.
Wtf is up with the "hey you" bit? I don't think he can hear you, dearie. I also think you should know that after 20 some odd years of living with him.
Diane Keaton the legend
This family is so insufferable and self-involved. Team SJP
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I mean
Why didn't she just stop talking? XD
Carrie bradshaw
Not coming out right lol
God this movie was awful. I kept hoping she'gonna flip and murder all of them.
I hate when people choose to ignore reality just to spare someone's feelings. They're basically were all gaslighting her bc they're all too sensitive
Awkward!
The mom is right.
God this was uncomfortable to watch
Meredith is horrible person
I love this movie but these people are so damn sensitive.
Stupid movie about non functional average people and family trying to heal own complex over the better person. Interesting for many because they are like it, but actually boring.
Dermot Mulroney is such a joke of an actor lol
The tolerant left in action.
Susan Heart. And if my aunt were a man, she'd be my uncle.....
Yeah, yeah.
Susan Heart your name speaks for itself self, you don't think with your brain. Bye.
@@SusanHeart actually, the point of "tolerance" is tolerating the views you disagree with. There's no such thing as "tolerating" an idea you already agree with.
Keith P If people tolerated those who believed slavery was a valid institution, it would still exist. Think of any other historical oppression and the same applies. If you can’t comprehend this, it must be because you were always on the oppressive side of things.