Reaction To 10 Dutch Culture Shocks in the Netherlands

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  • Reaction To 10 Dutch (Netherlands) Culture Shocks in the Netherlands
    This is my reaction to 10 Dutch Culture Shocks in the Netherlands
    In this video I react to culture shocks that an American received when he moved to Netherlands including Dutch food, Dutch people's personality and Dutch houses.
    Original Video - • 10 Dutch Culture Shock...

Komentáře • 110

  • @andyhorvath6630
    @andyhorvath6630 Před měsícem +46

    Dutchie over here, I've been raised with the tradition of Sinterklaas and zwarte piet, but it never even occurred to me to lay a connection with black people. Zwarte piet is black from soot because he climbs down chimneys to bring you presents. And he gives you candy. Nothing racist in that, on the contrary, we all love zwarte piet. Zwarte piet is, imho, misused by people who just want to cause turmoil.
    I've never ever heard the hanky panky Shanghai song in my entire life, these are incidents, certainly not institutional and definitely not an actual image of Dutch society. As a Dutchie I don't recognise it at all, we (I) love all people, wherever you'r from.
    And I hate all these comments about plain sandwiches for lunch, it is so not true! Yeah, we do love our cheeses, but whenever I come home from abroad I really crave for a Dutch sandwich (broodje) ... (broodje Mario in Utrecht is really the best) and I think the best Dutch foods are never mentioned in these kind of videos, they all seem to focus just on snacks.
    And planning, yeah we love to plan our lives. But planning a lunch two months ahead, come on. That never happpens. I regularly meet with friends for lunch or dinner on a short time base
    I've never ever had any problems to get an appointment with my GP or specialist, but yes, your GP is the first step
    This video gives a very shallow experience of Dutch society, for most of it, I don't agree with it at all.

    • @kippie148
      @kippie148 Před 12 dny

      Zwarte piet is also not really black anymore. Now it's more white people with some soot on their faces, he's now called in many parts of the country as roetveeg piet (soot smear piet) and not zwarte piet.

  • @kellyvandijk3269
    @kellyvandijk3269 Před měsícem +43

    Sinterklaas was a real person who did good things for the poor and the moors helpt him. It’s NOT racism ✌️🇳🇱

    • @alicekoppenol-pitti6257
      @alicekoppenol-pitti6257 Před měsícem

      That is what always gets overlooked. It is historically accurate that he had Moors for helpers. The thing people find offensive I guess is the fact that white people impersonate a black person. In the early days it was obvious that they had to do this because there were not many black people in the Netherlands. Nowadays that's not the case.

    • @h4d3z
      @h4d3z Před měsícem +1

      +1 on this

    • @corneliusantonius3108
      @corneliusantonius3108 Před 11 dny +1

      4th century bishop

    • @Trickaz94
      @Trickaz94 Před 4 dny

      Yeah and then some dumb American comes along and gonna tell it's racist while he doesn't even know the story behind it
      None the less, we lost a part of our cultural tradition because of some whiney bitches

  • @arvitt
    @arvitt Před měsícem +31

    im dutch.. And i have never heard of hanky panky Shanghai.

    • @flojoairflojoair3369
      @flojoairflojoair3369 Před měsícem +1

      i think its more in the western part of the Netherlands cos i am from near Zwolle(east) and never heard of this song thill this video so it might be at surten parts at leest not around here

    • @EdwinRieswijk
      @EdwinRieswijk Před měsícem +1

      Also not in the west, I'm from Rotterdam. Don't blame everything on the Randstad, bro.

    • @flojoairflojoair3369
      @flojoairflojoair3369 Před měsícem

      @@EdwinRieswijk i don't blame the randstad i presumed it must be from that area cos most expats go to the western part of the Netherlands so if its something they in counter i presumed its from there as well so no hard feelings mate

    • @gertvanderstraaten6352
      @gertvanderstraaten6352 Před měsícem

      Same here. Nijmegen.

    • @totodutchie
      @totodutchie Před měsícem

      Never heard it in the west either. Some people connect one youtube find with how they want it to match with their truth.​@@flojoairflojoair3369

  • @oldebarneveldt5326
    @oldebarneveldt5326 Před měsícem +16

    If one criticises a whole country for being racist, one should have one's facts right. And that's where David Wen fails terribly. The 'Zwarte Piet' is not related to the trans atlantic slavetrade that David was alluding to, but to (black) Moore pirates from Spain who attacked earlier our coastal villages for (white) slaves. The white slavetrade is always being silenced about.
    Then about dutch food. Why does David exclude indonesian dishes from the 'Dutch food' and consider at the same time the british, irish, italian, french, mexican influences as intrisically 'american kitchen'

  • @vast001
    @vast001 Před měsícem +8

    Seeing Black Piet as racism is not as Dutch see it as they originate from being the (white) persons going through the old fashioned chimneys (getting soot on the face, hence the blackness) to hand out little gifts in the nights during the Sinterklaas time until December 5th. On the evening of December 5th Sinterklaas will leave a big bag with a lot gifts outside the frontdoor.

  • @Thuras
    @Thuras Před 9 dny +1

    We celebrate Sinterklaas as a bisschop that actually liberated Moorish slaves (unpaid workers) and had them work for him (paid) and gave them the same rights as his white workers. When he had to flee Turkey in the old days (Sinterklaas was a Bisschop in the area what now is Turkey) he fled with his helpers (knechten, now means servant, but back then knecht in Dutch was an apprentice, not a servant, a smith apprentice was also called a knecht And still is I think). Because of wars in that area, he fled to the Netherlands and the Bischop including his helpers were welcomed in the Netherlands later he moved to Spain and every year he came back with presents for the Dutch as gratitude. We have never stopped celebrating it. Netherlands back then did not have the same borders, so it is also celebrated in Belgium and parts of Germany, but you get the idea.
    And this is folklore that is hundreds of years old, which means it won't reflect a 100% truth anyways and is different even per region where it is celebrated.
    The soot part I don't buy, because the red lips and the hairstyle doesn't match that story, but my story is what I was told on an old fashioned countryside school. I absolutely am not saying my story is the truth, but this is what I believed when I was a kid and I saw them as great happy people actually giving them each a different charachter property, if it was racism I think that apect would not have mattered and looked up to them rather then them being lower which is what racism is about.
    Yes to a foreigner this looks really weird and outright racism, especially if you don't look into it as to why we celebrate it.
    I am in no way saying it couldn't be based on racism, but we don't feel it that way for us it is a good folklore telling us to be nice and friendly to everyone, you only get presents if you are a good person.
    Fun fact, the Americans (coca cola) took over this story, used elfs instead of Black Petes and made it a Christmas thing called Santa Claus from our Sinterklaas or Sint Nicolaas or in English Saint Nicholas.
    The weird Chinese look a like song is definitely a form of ignorance from the Dutch. not being able to speak Chinese at all and not understandable for little children they made this of that part of the song.. Although I have rarely heard it, this is cringy to me too and I would definitely tell my daughter to leave that part out if I'd here her sing this. the song actually consists out of several (set of lines, we call a couplet)..
    Every line is sung 4 or 5 times, not sure
    Wel gefliciteerd(happy birthday in Dutch) [1st couplet]
    Happy birthday to you [2nd couplet]
    Zum geburtstag viel glück (a german variety of it) [3rd couplet]
    some people sing that weird fake chinese version of it as a 4th couplet
    I have also heard a french and even an italian and spanish couplet in there sometimes.

  • @edwinvnoye8183
    @edwinvnoye8183 Před měsícem +6

    We are direct dont want to waste time running aruond the blok
    Sinterklaas is a Kids fest filled with gifts no racisme intended
    Its to honnor a man of a different race ,, so where is the racisme

  • @_alifeallmine_
    @_alifeallmine_ Před 18 dny +1

    I’ve been to the Netherlands twice from Australia (half-way around the World), and yes, Dutchies are quite direct. But I never took it as rude, I was in someone’s Country to begin with, and I found it refreshing and honest, and made all the sense in the World in their Society. The friends I stayed with shared their Home and Cutlure with me, and showed me around their Home Town (Nijmegen), and it was an incredible experience. They in turn invited me to share my Culture with them, with open Hearts and Minds, and this Trip was honestly one of the best experiences I’ve ever had, so much so I went back again. I would live there in a Heartbeat. 🧡

  • @dgraveth
    @dgraveth Před měsícem +6

    The birthday song hanky panky, it’s the part where the birthday song goes internationally, you also hear English Spanish etc

    • @lenaaaaaaaa78
      @lenaaaaaaaa78 Před měsícem +1

      this was the song i used to sing in kindergarten until my school thought it was to racist and banned it

  • @MMGV1992
    @MMGV1992 Před 3 dny

    when I was in kindergarten, we had a yearly event where all children invest hours in school, to cut, sketch, paint, cut and glue outfits, from all different cultures in the world, like a fashion show, they put up small tables to walk on, and the children would learn choreograped cultural dances, sorted by country and culture and made hand made vlags. It was a big thing back in time, and there came up a big audience just to come see it, parents, brothers sisters grandma's grandpa's aunties and uncles teachers and upper classes of the school.
    I still have pictures of myself of it, it was a amazing way of learning different cultures and countries. I remember all the kids getting nervous wanted to show their best performance, and kids crying when their outfit got destroyed because it wasnt glued properly. This was approx 27 years ago, so in terms of racism in that time these thing where not seen as racism, it did not have the same conditions and terms as it is today. So nowadays some things would be judged on as racism, but back the day, it didnt excist.
    To mention that allot of cultures live here side by side for many years, if it was as bad as people sketch the painting im guessing all these different cultures, would not emigrate to a racist country, to get punched down on their culture.
    Thats something to think about..

  • @MrJankert64
    @MrJankert64 Před měsícem +4

    flu,cold, ridicules to go to a doctor, i am 60 never went to the doctor for that😂. and i do not know anyone that has.
    i am dutch and yes my windows are open to the public, we are a quit open minded ppl, pissing next to each other know problem,nice vid thanks for sharing.
    greets from the Netherlands.

  • @MaartenKuif
    @MaartenKuif Před 29 dny +3

    Telling people to exaggerate their illness is just bad advice.
    If you need to exaggerate your illness to see a doctor, you don't need a doctor (yet). You just clog up the system and take the place of someone that actually needs to see the doctor. Just tell your employer that you'll take sick leave for one or two days and stay in bed. You'll be fine in a coulple of days. If not, then the doctor will gladly see you.

    • @boerenlul1981
      @boerenlul1981 Před 6 dny

      Exactly. Why would anyone go to the doctor for a cold or flu?

  • @ReneVanKralingen
    @ReneVanKralingen Před měsícem +5

    Not floors..... floor-covering

  • @EJannings
    @EJannings Před měsícem +21

    People are far too sensitive nowadays. If you're going to move to Egypt, don't complain that the pyramids are build by slaves. The Sinterklaas celebration is not just for children, grown-ups enjoy the nostalgia of it. Pointing out that Black Pete was only added in the 19th century doesn't make sense. People are nostalgic about their youth remembrances, and not about how things were many centuries ago.
    The Black Pete discussion has become rather symbolic to some very ugly censorship. First of all, the changes are not just applied tot the children's part of celebration. Programs that are meant for grown-ups are alternated as well. The horror film Saint will not be aired any more, even although the Black Pete parts are very small. I think this kind of censorship is as worse as leaving out the slave trade in American history books.
    And it's not just about race. Changing the word "fat" in a Roald Dahl story. Make sure there are no gays in animation movies. Recently I read in the news that there are 30% less sex scenes in nowadays movies than a couple of decades ago. No people smoking in historic movies. It's all censorship. What's next. Re-install the Hays code?

    • @marcovtjev
      @marcovtjev Před měsícem +7

      And if you drag in details like that, you also need to drag in those arguments for both sides, and that includes blackface as a concept is a extremely sensitive in the USA for their own historic reasons that might not necessarily be the same somewhere else. That doesn't make Black Peter non racist (I think it certainly has racist elements, as nearly everything old), but the reaction from US people to it is sometimes really weirdly aggressive.

    • @Trickaz94
      @Trickaz94 Před 4 dny

      ​@@marcovtjevwe don't care if it's sensitive in the US, this is the Netherlands
      The world doesn't revolve around you oversensitive Americans

  • @BabzV
    @BabzV Před 11 dny +1

    Zwarte Piet being called Black face started in the US, I don't think I need to say more.

  • @bramharms72
    @bramharms72 Před měsícem +2

    I grew up in a part of Holland where if you wanted to have a go at racisming you'd first have to order some other race yourself and get them shipped in from abroad. And even when you had your very own foreigner living in your street, it's kind of hard to discriminate against the French when you only ever encounter Alphonse.
    Whenever I have to judge the level of racism in the Netherlands this creates a baseline of almost negative racism in my mind. Coupled with some other factors this makes it seem that racism is a modern problem, or a problem of a few overly sensitive people these days.
    My "feeling" for racism/discrimination is flawed, that's why I try to fall back on logic: If we want to have a holiday to make kids happy, make the maximum number of kids happy. Change with the times, don't struggle against them.

  • @Abihef
    @Abihef Před 13 dny

    As a child i had a black teacher in groep 5, when I was seven years old and we sang happy birthday for every Birthday, then the Surinamese version and then hankypanky but at that age we actually thought, or at least i did, she tought us the Chinese version as well.
    I was shocked years later after totally forgetting about that song when i learned what it actually was.
    But outside of her classroom i never encountered it until I saw a documentary about racism against Asian people a few years ago. Definitely never seen anyone do it with the eyes but I was appalled when finding out.

  • @EdwinRieswijk
    @EdwinRieswijk Před měsícem +3

    If I was this guy, I would return to Japan or China or Vietnam or whatever. Life in the Netherlands is hell for him, it seems.

  • @MrLittle3vil
    @MrLittle3vil Před měsícem +2

    Black Pete (zwarte Piet) has nothing to do with slavery or black face. It's like saying St. Patricks Day is derogatory of little people because of the Goblin or gingers because of the orange beards. Or Santa's little helpers for that matter. Are those enslaved little people because the make toys for Santa? It's just stupid.
    Hanky panky Shanghai is a CHILDRENS song for like kindergarteners....and it's just a part of an "international" happy birthday song.
    People in the world have absolutely lost their mind and taking things way to far and out of proportion. In the Netherlands they are even changing streetnames like Eskimostreet, because Eskimo is considered derogatory.
    The floors thing is pretty common. What if there is an ugly floor in the house that is not to your taste or matches your furniture? You'll have to take it out and replace it too. Also you often can come to an agreement with the previous owner to pay them some money to keep the floor if you like it. Saves you time and money and the previous owner/renter from taking it out.
    The urinals with the lights are underground during the day. The mostly come up on the weekends when people are out clubbing or at bank holidays etc. Otherwise people will just urinate against a wall or something which will smell and is pretty annoying as a home owner.

  • @cb1636
    @cb1636 Před 25 dny

    Never heard that song and i grew up in the Netherlands. And i live in Belgium, where lots of black families come to Sinterklaas gatherings with zwarte pieten.

  • @vexisonline
    @vexisonline Před 29 dny +1

    I've grown up with zwarte Piet and remember when I was in elementary, they used to do a bad Suriname accent which I then felt was inappropriate before I understood the larger implications. They now use far less offensive make up, and the similarities with the slaves of yore is something that will be a part of our country's chequered past before long. People get rather weird because most people will have fond memories of their childhood involving the tradition in that form and we all know what happens when nostalgia is under scrutiny. Regarding the planning, we're spontaneous as soon as the sun's out, and planning years ahead is an outlier. Like the directness and efficiency, it's tied to respecting each other's time. We don't beat around the bush but some people are just rude, just like anywhere else. The line is very thin.

  • @MrElstef
    @MrElstef Před 7 dny

    That guy has been living here for 3 years but still doesn't have a clue about a lot of things. I don't think he really tried to investigate time in trying to learn the Dutch society. For instance, yes, we plan a lot in advance . It's a good way to manage time, and also, when you know a couple of weeks in advance, when a certain friend comes by to visit, then you can prepare everything to give that friend a good time by getting the food and drinks in house he really likes. But in my experience, with close family and friends, you meet spontaneously.

  • @nijsvermin9350
    @nijsvermin9350 Před 23 dny

    My guy saying that’s Dutch food and not even pulling up with stroopwafels

  • @WendyvanToor
    @WendyvanToor Před 18 dny +1

    Housing is horrible here. This is one of the reasons why lots of people are not as happy with foreigners. Simply because Dutch young people don't have a good chance for affordable housing and end up living with their parents upto wayy in heir twenties which is not a good way to start your own family

  • @robeleco1
    @robeleco1 Před 25 dny

    The whole Black Pete issue is already subject to change. In most places Black Pete's appearance has already changed from all black to just some blacks stripes across the face, more looking like someone who went through a chimney. I personally applaud the change. It was about time. To me it has always been a weird custom in its original form. The argument that it was done for hundreds of years is simply untrue. It exists since 1850 and has changed its appearance several times over time.

  • @yerrie1908
    @yerrie1908 Před 15 dny +1

    Zwartepiet is a sensitive subject in the Netherlands as you notice, the problem is that these are all left overs of the past and only in progressive country's and in the west in general their are open discussions about it and introspection.
    We have been told a none racist story about Sinterklaas en Zwartepiet but the reality is that the origin of zwartepiet is simply racist and you can find the history in the paintings of our great masters.
    Most Dutch people see zwartepiet as they see a clown, nobody thinks a black person painting his face white as a clown is mocking white people, in my opinion that is more or less confirmed by black people playing Zwartepiet in the Dutch Caribbean where they celebrate that same Sinterklaas feest.
    Your take on racism is much more sensible and your reasoning is why in my opinion saying that people are racist are actually the racists themselves, racism of low expectations, I can handle the jokes about me but I have to protect others from it.
    The full attack on people that they are racist with zwartepiet worked very counter productive.
    The real problem is and many scientific study's prove it but we all ignore it, everyone on this planet is subconsciously racist, it's a evolutionary survival of the fittest mechanism, also called tribalism, we wouldn't be here without. Conscious racism is when it's getting bad

  • @palantir135
    @palantir135 Před 26 dny

    Black Pete is rapidly changing into multicolored or sooth smear Pete.
    I never heard Hanky Panky song in the south of the Netherlands. Maybe it’s used in the west.
    What he calls dutch food are just snacks.
    We eat efficiently so we eat sandwiches. If you have a complete warm meal, it takes more time and you will feel drowsy afterwards.

  • @MartinWebNatures
    @MartinWebNatures Před měsícem +1

    Nice video. From him as well the video about living for 5 years in the Netherlands. Also about he loves the Netherlands

  • @Abihef
    @Abihef Před 13 dny

    I've been looking for a house for twelve years and still can't get one, in some cities it can take over 17-20 years

  • @hannytierlierblaauw192

    Zwarte Piet is not a black person but a chimney sweep type. Sinterklaas rides on the rooftops and sends zwarte piet down the chimney to deliver presents and sweets. If people don’t know a local story they should just ask about the meaning instead of making up one themselves. I’ve never heart about hanky panky Shanghai. Maybe there are people singing this but it’s not widespread in the Netherlands.

  • @Trickaz94
    @Trickaz94 Před 4 dny

    People from Suriname, also celebrate Sinterklaas with black pete and they dont have any problems with it
    But sensitive Americans think its wrong

  • @randar1969
    @randar1969 Před měsícem +1

    Funny you said that because the Dutch are the 2nd country in the world after the USA, that export agriculture. It's good that my neighbour for example says "i sometimes hear warsounds, from your home' Can you lower the volume? Because i have lived through war. I know my neighbour is ready for rejection , but i just use headphones when i play games now. At the same time i said your washing machine at 8am can you please do that on a slightly later time perhaps? Then again i have my curtains closed, disliking sunlight on my computer screen.

  • @JeffSparrow87
    @JeffSparrow87 Před 12 dny

    I used to be easy in being available to hang out it. But now that i have kids it's hard to arranges something. And indeed i need my calendar/ planned and indeed it could take 2 months before both the other party and me have an opening to meet. And even then something can happen that prevents that meeting

  • @WendyvanToor
    @WendyvanToor Před 18 dny

    Being Dutch I think this young man experiences things rather negatively.

  • @gelderstrotsvaderland5492

    Zwarte Piet 😂 ? Some Germanic Tribes painted their bodies Black
    There are also Germanic Tribes who painted their bodies Blue

  • @totodutchie
    @totodutchie Před měsícem

    My guess: He hasn't got many Dutch friends if any at all. And if a few, his Dutch friends are weird.

  • @sylviavanessen-timofeeff199

    Most of my live I believed that Zwarte Piet was part of Dutch culture.
    Now that I live in America for six years I think Zwarte Piet is out of date. Try to explain to a black American what Zwarte Piet means, YIKES!
    I tried to explain once, and while I was defending it, I was like: “ This feels so wrong, why are we celebrating Sinterklaas like that?”

    • @Trickaz94
      @Trickaz94 Před 4 dny

      We don't need to explain it to a black American, it's the Netherlands
      The world doesn't revolve around those oversensitive Americans
      Don't like it? Stay the fuck away

  • @sailing-etanche
    @sailing-etanche Před 9 dny

    Funny guy, the man from Asia. He himself said " little helpers". They are not little, that's what the USA made of it. Maybe a definition of racism would be in his place here. People who celebrate this feast, are not hating black people or what so ever. Look at the Caribbean island. Black people with painted faces. Even in the cape Verde they have a feast like this. Nowadays it's all about feelings. 😢

    • @Trickaz94
      @Trickaz94 Před 4 dny +1

      People from Suriname celebrate Sinterklaas with zwarte piet, they don't seem to have any problems with it

  • @JCBrt760
    @JCBrt760 Před 9 dny

    22:53 for this part i would just like to point out that this nurse was an ass. What should have happened is the nurse should have pointed out that you should have a GP and then referred him to the SEH in short in dutch better know to english speakers as the ER. Here al manner of treatment is carried out when either the GP is no longer on call or when when accidents happen and you need immediate care which can not always be done by a GP. Trust me on this one most of my family works in health care 😅

  • @RJNL90
    @RJNL90 Před 26 dny

    UK definitely has the pissoirs. London has and I'm sure the other cities have at least occasionally.
    Regarding the other issues, I would say a lot is his interpretation. But the exaggerating illness thing is just wrong. GPs have limited time. Don't bother them with a flu or a belly ache. There is not much they can do for you anyways.
    Also, most hospitals will have sort of urgent GPs that you can see if you have an issue outside normal GP office hours and you need to be seen urgently.

  • @cb1636
    @cb1636 Před 25 dny

    I do not plan at all.😂

  • @Saturns_Grannie
    @Saturns_Grannie Před 18 dny

    Most dutch people when we sing the hanky panky song or do black pete we dont really realize that its really about people like it just exists its not meant te be against certain people we also have like a italian version of the hanky panky song its about spaghettie of sum like that i personally never mean anything to be racist im mixed myself and the black pete is now mostly soot on their face instaid of just plain blackface and the songs are getting less

  • @boerenlul1981
    @boerenlul1981 Před 6 dny

    I think the planning part is exaggerated. Planning a lunch a year ahead is simply a lie. Apart from that I know most people still like to do stuff spontaneously, but perhaps that’s more of a thing in the east than the west

  • @nielsvaneijk7414
    @nielsvaneijk7414 Před 17 dny

    If you ask me how I am, I will tell you…. If you ask me my opinion I will tell you… so yea seems normal for me… if I do t like you you will know and otherwise if I like you you will also know. And the rent is always high hahaa

    • @nielsvaneijk7414
      @nielsvaneijk7414 Před 17 dny

      Ps the doctor thing is really a foreigner thing… if you are Dutch you know how to get that… this whole thing with the dog bite is just dumb a Dutch person would never let this happen hahaha😊

  • @sanderdeboer6034
    @sanderdeboer6034 Před měsícem

    Why are my comments and reactions removed when I try to combat racism?

  • @DaveJansenTPV
    @DaveJansenTPV Před 29 dny

    The exaggerating your sickness thing is just plain wrong. At that point you're basically sort of questioning the professionalism of your gp and also unnecessarily clogging up the healthcare system. Your body is designed to fight minor illnesses like the flu. You lying in bed for a couple of days will make you stronger and more resilient. Off course, if your fever gets so high to the point that it is life threatening your gp will definitely help you. North-Americans seem to almost be under the impression they will be left to die or something.

  • @jankokoens1838
    @jankokoens1838 Před 6 dny

    If you don't know the history of Sinterklaas, you should keep quiet. Zwarte Piet is not racist

  • @juggalo30able
    @juggalo30able Před 23 dny

    One piece of advice; stay far away from the zwarte piet (black pete) discussion. U dont want to go down that path. trust me

  • @mikef1848
    @mikef1848 Před měsícem +8

    Problem is that outsiders try to change our way of living. Why do they think they have the right to tell us what to do? If they dont like it, they can get the f outta here.

  • @MrElstef
    @MrElstef Před 7 dny

    Black Pete is slowly disappearing from society. The last 2 decades It is already totally banned from the public festivities. Nowadays, St. Nicolas his helpers are called just pete and are not painted black anymore, or they have some brown smudges on their cheeck from climbing in the chimney. There are still people who celebrate St Nicholas with black Pete in private, trying to hold on to a tradition. But it's getting less over the years

  • @AnnekeOosterink
    @AnnekeOosterink Před 27 dny +2

    People who like Zwarte Piet probably aren't doing it to be racist, but the black face thing is definitely a caricature of black people. People nowadays often don't make that connection, but the costume, the wig, the face paint has without a doubt a very racist origin. So I don't think that most people actually are super racist, but they never really made the connection I think. What I do take issue with is when people are told what the origins are and then they still deny it. You can do things that are hurtful without meaning to do it, but of someone tells you it's hurtful and you continue doing it? Yeah, that's not okay. And black people have been saying it's hurtful for a very long time. I know a segment from the Dutch Sesame Street from the 90s where a black woman explains why she doesn't really enjoy Black Pete. So it was a common enough issue that a children's show addressed it decades ago.
    I'm glad Zwarte Piet no longer gets the big lips and black face paint they used to, no there's streaks of soot (that was the excuse for a long time, that the full black face was soot, I guess the red lips, curly black hair, and 17th century black person caricature was also caused by soot). I definitely prefer the actual wipes of soot. It doesn't hurt anyone to have the soot instead of the blackface, and the blackface does hurt people, so there's no reason to not do soot faces.

  • @TheJolanda01
    @TheJolanda01 Před 22 dny

    Dont know hanky panky =====????????

  • @AdrievanZuidam
    @AdrievanZuidam Před dnem

    hanky panky Shanghai???? I am born in the Netherlands and live here 68 year, never have I heard from hanky panky Shanghai? Bitterballen is a snack and have nothing too do with Dutch food. This Person don't know much about Dutch food. But it likes that he know everything, but he really don't know anything. This information sucks. Dutch people just like eating and vacation together with friends.

  • @WendyvanToor
    @WendyvanToor Před 18 dny

    Exaggerate your medical problem is really not a good advice imo. The cost for insurance keep getting up. Partly because of unnessecary use of medical workers and medicine.

  • @JoeDaltonCustom
    @JoeDaltonCustom Před 21 dnem

    This guy, about the Dutch.. Is full of BS!!

  • @kevintje25
    @kevintje25 Před měsícem +8

    I don't completely agree with what he says about Zwarte Piet. of the group that wants to ban Black Pete in the Netherlands, the majority are not even of dark skin color, but they are mainly people from left-wing groups and woke movements. many black people here grew up with Black Pete and know the tradition

    • @sanderdeboer6034
      @sanderdeboer6034 Před měsícem

      Stop with the woke arguments! A majority in the Netherlands wants the change of the character, that includes people of the entire political spectrum and has NOTHING to do with being woke. Just with being civilized and having empathy for other people.
      The fact some people usually with a Suriname background say they approve of the old way of celebrating, doesn’t mean everyone in that demographic approves of it. And many I know actually give or gave the in the past more culturally approved reply, when a majority was against change.
      Stop dividing the world in left and right, that is not how it works.

    • @Lilygirl283
      @Lilygirl283 Před měsícem

      ​@@sanderdeboer6034they are woke, end off, if the foreigners don't like it they can bugger off.

    • @woutersplinter4981
      @woutersplinter4981 Před měsícem

      ​@@sanderdeboer6034 stop it, not a majority wants to change, a majority is afraid for/tired of those rioters of Kozp.... So they caved for the terror of a minority. In the North of the country they wanted to get rid of the wigs and red lips and wanted to pant Piet grey, but that was not enough for those woke crybabies who said that grey piet was "racism-light". So no, it is a problem of woke left.

    • @kevintje25
      @kevintje25 Před měsícem +1

      @@sanderdeboer6034 Are you going to explain that to them in the Antilles? because they also celebrate Sinterklaas or they should cover themselves more white. because it is only racist when we say it is, because it is not the children (where the whole tradition is for) they do not even see it as racism but the parents do (who were often not even born here) and the reason people changed their minds is because they were fed up with the whole discussion surrounding Zwarte Piet.because in the end it doesn't matter to the children what color Piet is

    • @sanderdeboer6034
      @sanderdeboer6034 Před měsícem

      @kevintje25 Please look up the fallacy WHATABOUTISM! You are guilty!
      And if it doesn't matter for children what color it is, why not change it. Plus I KNOW people that had problems as a child with zwarte piet.
      Who were bullied by other children because of the similarlies. And it is not only the skin colour, but also the clothing, earrings, big lips, hair and using a fake Surinamese accent.
      It is BLACKFACE! THAT IS A FACT! And yes, almost all people in the Netherlands have no racist meaning behind it, but just can't look past their childhood memories.
      I understand many people have issues with change, but in this case the change is minimal with great impact.

  • @Jesse1.12
    @Jesse1.12 Před měsícem +1

    1. It is zo True but it is normal here i don't know about hanki panggi shanhi. Not negative

    • @MartinWebNatures
      @MartinWebNatures Před měsícem +2

      I'm 66 an I've never heard of this hanky panky. Maybe in other provinces.

  • @Jesse1.12
    @Jesse1.12 Před měsícem

    5. it's difficult but I would go for a village

  • @Jesse1.12
    @Jesse1.12 Před měsícem

    It is like a week not so terribly

  • @Jesse1.12
    @Jesse1.12 Před měsícem

    8. It is almost only in city's

  • @Jesse1.12
    @Jesse1.12 Před měsícem

    2.we normally eat our own food

  • @Jesse1.12
    @Jesse1.12 Před měsícem

    7. You only go if your dying

  • @Jesse1.12
    @Jesse1.12 Před měsícem

    6. It is true but we just don't look insite

  • @gertstraatenvander4684
    @gertstraatenvander4684 Před měsícem

    Nothing wrong with Sinterklaas per se. Zwarte Piet though is racist. Sinterklaas may have come from from old time (it probably did), but Zwarte Piet is colonialist. Sinterklaas is also the original Santa Claus.
    I've not heard the Shanghai song, but have read the lyrics etc, it's disgusting.
    The best Dutch food is Indonesian and Surinamese.
    The planning, yeah it's sensible.
    Yeah, negative feedback sucks, but at least you know where you stand. Stop wasting my time and tell me where it's at!
    I hate that open windows crap. Probably because I was raised Catholic.
    That nurse was rude. She could have handled that better.

  • @Jesse1.12
    @Jesse1.12 Před měsícem

    4. Lol

  • @Jesse1.12
    @Jesse1.12 Před měsícem

    I am duth

  • @Jesse1.12
    @Jesse1.12 Před měsícem

    9. Lol