Gilbert Arenas Details How BAD NBA Coaches RUIN A Team
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- Gilbert Arenas Details How BAD NBA Coaches RUIN A Team by remembering his time under Stan Van Gundy on the Orlando Magic. Even with Dwight Howard and JJ Redick alongside Gil, Stan's Terrible coaching held them back and Gilbert still can't stand him to this day.
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When Shaq called Stan the master of panic he was done😂😂
🙏🙏Blessings forever GOD loves y'all too forever tell everyone you know and don't know. Jesus loves y'all too forever. Teach everyone how to see and enjoy their blessings too foreverz
That’s right he did 😂😂😂😂😂
lol
Not exactly done since he got a job in Detroit and New Orleans but yea he's got a track record.
Just goes to show you can't trust a coach who is 4ft 11" and 600 pounds.
There’s a reason Pat Riley fired SVG and took over for him in the middle of the 2006 season-and then won the Championship
They sweep that under the rug
You pronounced "refs" wrong
Facts
@@grostoss4259literally go back and watch the tap the Mavs guards can't touch wade and then he gets knocked to the floor 80% going for layups
@@grostoss4259lol ngl I don't care how much d wade was driving, you can't defend that discrepancy
When Dwight said this media and fans called him weak and soft. Nobody liked Gundy, he was horrible. Who makes the finals then trade away and not resign 3 of the starting 5 and most depth players
🙏🙏Blessings forever GOD loves y'all too forever tell everyone you know and don't know. Jesus loves y'all too forever. Teach everyone how to see and enjoy their blessings too forevera
Also lakers had no business of winning that finals, they gave that one away.
@@goodfractalspoker7179your insane....the lakers had a way better team than Orlando that year. Go back and check the Vegas odds for that series. Come on with the revisionist history.
@@lionface1364forget Vegas odds. Orlando ripped through Cleveland 4-1 and yes lakers were the favorites but the magic were white hot in the playoffs. The further we get away from retrain finals, people forget the context and just look at rosters.
@@Racoons4Change No we do not forget Vegas odds when looking at who should of won the finals. Lol. Yea they beat Cleveland and they were hot in the (LEASTERN CONFERENCE). I don't care how some people try to reframe it....the Lakers were HEAVY favorites going in and the results match up with what would eventually happen. SMH This was their second of three trips to the finals in a row....come on brothers..lol....seriously?
Phil Jackson called him Van Dumby lmao😂
So crazy how many players say similar or the same things about Van Gundy
JJ Redick, Matt Barnes, Gil, Dwight and Jason Richardson have all had this similar story
It's easy to have similar stories when it's the truth 🤷🏿♂️
They all was on the same team or off by a season I believe except for J rich
Shaq too
10 different people won't tell the same lie🤞🏿💯
Stan Van is a hack as an actual coach! Ran the Pistons into the ground for years too!
My college coach was like this. Being a shooter it’s hard to be confident when your coach is degrading you any chance he gets.
college coaches have so much more influence and power over their team too. Sometimes the difference that takes place after a single year of changing coaches can be staggering
Same here my coach was the same way
People don’t understand the politics that goes on behind scene
Definitely. Makes u reluctant to shoot. 👍🏾💯
@@rudyvrobertsjr2893absolutely correct
It sure is. I totally agree.
Bad coaches in professional sports can literally ruin a player's development if they're not mentally tough.
Bad coaching on any level can ruin the development of players
@@KingOfSelf91 True
Any level bro I’d say even more so at younger ages though
Tom thibodeau is a prime example lol
its not anyone elses fault a player isnt mentally tough. its not other peoples job to make people tougher
Latrell Sprewell should have been on this episode.
Spreeeee!
😂😂
Kwame said Doug Collins was the same way.
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@@randallhurst8211kwame stay pointing fingers though
Dayum! That’s a crazy story. Imagine being in your early twenties being the leader of a team and have to deal with that. And still put up HOF numbers. Put some respect on Dwight’s name.
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I believe if it weren't for Dwight we wouldn't have won that bubble chip. He slowed down jokic during that series, had him frustrated
All he did was his job though.
bruh stan wanted dwight to run pick and rolls but dwight wanted to post up when he sucked at it. That team was a literally 4 out team and thats cuz of the coach, gilbert was just bitter cause he was shot as player at that point and even jj redick said he dont want to shootaround and play the game the same day. toxic ass
@@chay770sucked at it is a stretch. Y’all need to stop with the hyperbole already. He was okay at it.
Van Gundy had a potential championship team and he threw it away and paid no price in the media for it
The team overachieved, why would he get hate
Dude got fired.
Jeff was already a made man in the media
They team wasn’t that good
Rashard Lewis and Hedo were washed up after 2010 and Dwight should’ve won mvp in 2011 for carrying them to 50 games
Bruh, I remember when Riley fired him during the '06 season. I thought, "Man, Pat Riley a savage who just wants all the credit for the championship they're clearly gonna win." Just goes to show you that us fans don't know what we're talking about most of the time.
Love the realness of this show, fellas. Keep it going! ✊🏿
svg coaching Orlando to the finals after coming up with and implementing an absolutely revolutionary play style(3 point heavy 1-in 4-out) that changed basketball and unlocked Dwight’s potential doesn’t show you that he is indeed a great coach? You’re right, you are a fan that doesn’t know what he talking about.
All that being said svg is a basketball genius but a TERRIBLE leader of people
We were not clearly going to win. Pat fired him for criticizing the vets in the media
SVG didn't come up with that playing style, every team with a dominant "post" big play inside out. The Rockets literally won back to back Championships playing that way with Hakeem. Surround your dominant "post" player with outside shooters. It's the same way the Magic played with Shaq or the Knicks with Ewing.
@@Paul-wu7xd tots widey know that the SVG led Orlando magic literally changed the nba by proving that a 3 point reliant team could make it to the finals.
You need to google “the 2009 magic changed basketball” two articles will pop up about that will prove my point, one is from “the ringer” the other from “the athletic” give them a read and get back with me bub. You are a typical casual nba fan that doesn’t give a small market team their credit when it’s due…
@@Paul-wu7xd bruh stan wanted dwight to run pick and rolls but dwight wanted to post up when he sucked at it. That team was a literally 4 out team and thats cuz of the coach, gilbert was just bitter cause he was shot as player at that point and even jj redick said he dont want to shootaround and play the game the same day. toxic ass
I had PTSD listening to the first 3 minutes of this. Had a manager that was the *exact* same way - Napoleon complex, tried to make up for what he lacked in stature with attitude. Super negative, would make snide comments, tried to instill his own paranoia into others. And the lies....so many lies. It was pretty much psychological terrorism. I now see why Stan never got another crack at coaching.
Stan literally got at least 2 more head coaching positions after his stint with the Magic.
Right on. Reminds me of Jerry Krause for sure
@@FFx16459jerry Krause was getting shit done tho
Man same here
krause is considered one of the best gms ever and stan is a great coach look at his record and listen to other players aside from gil talk about him dont let the jordan doc and gil cloud the facts
Shaq use to criticize Stan Van Gundy's coaching style, he hated him.
Stan Van Panic!
Bruh this legit this why we watch stories you never heard before great perspectives wish I could give it 1000 likes fr
Now it makes sense why Dwight was throwing Stan under the bus towards the end of his Magic years.
cuz stan wanted him to run pick and rolls while dwight wanted to post up. It was well known
My high school coach was like this. You make a mistake first thing every player did was look at coach and knew what time it was. My AAU coach saved my career. He allowed us to make mistakes and learn from them. Shout-out to coach Driscoll
I’m a AAU coach & what you said is exactly how I coach my guys. I’m relaxed but discipline when needed. I don’t want anybody scared to not make a mistake fam it happens. Play through it, learn from it & let’s go from there. You can ruin confidence quick
@@jayt0321 they will appreciate you later in their journey for this and they will benefit from it.
Ohh you mean don’t play defense
@@Ab-iz9uv my squad play defense.
But yes there are plenty teams who do not push defense
That's why we're getting passed up by these international players. I played AAU too and it was comfortable, there was always tournaments that we ran. But my high school team was terrible and I think that's cuz we just had a culture of losing and missing practice and our coach didn't have the stugots to get in our face like Stanny Handles Van Gundy
It's sad that so many ex players have the same negative overall opinions of Stan Van Gundy yet he's been a head coach for a long time.
bruh stan wanted dwight to run pick and rolls but dwight wanted to post up when he sucked at it. That team was a literally 4 out team and thats cuz of the coach, gilbert was just bitter cause he was shot as player at that point and even jj redick said he dont want to shootaround and play the game the same day. toxic ass
Damn so the reports from Detroit and New Orleans were true 😂 he lost the locker room and players didn't wanna play for him
🙏🙏Blessings forever GOD loves y'all too forever tell everyone you know and don't know. Jesus loves y'all too forever. Teach everyone how to see and enjoy their blessings too foreverx
Josh Smith, Drummond and Greg Monroe in the same frontcourt was absolutely wild 😂
6:17 Fact check: April 6, 2011 against the Bobcats. Gil did start for JRich scored 25 pts in 40mins. Next game he scored 5 pts on 23 mins
It’s crazy Dwight got the reputation as a coach killer after the magic situation
Seeing things I like this makes me less likely to call somebody a bust. Bad coaches, stack at your position, coaching styles or changes all play into someone getting less likely being successful
The growth in Kenyon Martin is amazing. I’m honestly proud of how he worked and got his speech better. Respect
I don't think so, he still acts like a punk
Who was Kenyon talking bout? I couldn’t understand him 😂
@@MrEvannelson George Karl
It’s so rare when I don’t understand English speakers and that’s the case here. It’s just a gibberish for me, most of what he said.
Guys I meant literally lol. Google a Kenyon Martin interview when on the nets or Denver. He would make a click sound while he would talk. That's the growth I'm referring to.
Kenyon always keeps it 100
Now I understand the reason why Dwight wanted out of Orlando he wanted van gundy fired and the management wanted to keep van gundy now I’m glad somebody called out Stan van gundy. SMH
Matt Barnes, JJ reddick, and vince carter knew that is was Van Gundy's fault.
@@jemdriajj reddick said that gilberts toxic ass told stan to his face he can either get him for shootaround or the game. Gilbert was used to his coach in the wizards where he can do whatever he wants and get kicked off the 1st rd
Stan Van Gundy is crazy lol 😂😂😂
🙏🙏Blessings forever GOD loves y'all too forever tell everyone you know and don't know. Jesus loves y'all too forever. Teach everyone how to see and enjoy their blessings too forevern
You can coach players hard, but with respect as well.
Look at zejlko in partizan. Hard but fair and everyone respects him
Its the reason most players liked Belichick. He coaches hard but he's not going to embarrass u
Man these type of podcasts is going to shape the next generation into a supreme evolution. I’m talking about the real young hoopers AND coaches that are watching.
All the smoke started it now Gil, JJ, Pat Bev etc. the impact they’re having will shape minds, you’re so right.
🙏🙏Blessings forever GOD loves y'all too forever tell everyone you know and don't know. Jesus loves y'all too forever. Teach everyone how to see and enjoy their blessings too foreverc
Gil was actually first champ
Gil was before All The Smoke. So was Knuckleheads. All The Smoke is good but something is off.
But I definitely agree with your point
This vid helped me understand nba media and reporting a bit more. When your hear reports that’s say “ He( the coach) lost the locker room” this is what they mean. The coach is doing a bad job at managing the players and is toxic to that situation that players tune him out.
Facts. now we need someone from the 2011-14 49ers to speak about Jim Harbaugh
Stan Van Gundy and George Karl good NBA coaches but woulda been great college coaches can’t talk to grown men like that 😭
they needed that PJ Carlesimo treatment...probably Larry brown too
Couldn't STAND George Karl. I don't dislike a lot of ppl, famous or otherwise, but that dude...He got LUCKY with the " player sweepstakes. " OVERRATED
@@blackestvex2921 He also had the Dean Smith co-sign who was basically the Godfather of basketball during the 80's and 90's.
I 100% believe that a large part of why Melo forced his way out Denver the way he did was because of George Karl.
Melo has his flaws and rightfully gets called out on them, but I feel like he gets a lot more flack for their time in Denver when Karl had his part in fracturing/ruining those playoff teams.
@@EpsilonKeyXIV Melo was primed to win a championship with the right personnel...'09 was proof!
I would love to hear JJ's side of this story.
he’s shared it on The Old Man & The 3. He also gives SVG credit for starting him and seeing him as an NBA starting shooting guard despite his defensive lapses.
🙏🙏Blessings forever GOD loves y'all too forever tell everyone you know and don't know. Jesus loves y'all too forever. Teach everyone how to see and enjoy their blessings too forevera.
@@TeyaeTvWhy u out here trynna convert people in youtube comments my dude?
@@DualityUnlimitedterrible people person, but very good basketball mind.
@@_gamepoint_ Which Role/Position do you think would be best for SVG?
This type of shit applies to regular life too. Not just the NBA. In my job, there a manager just like that. Criticizing everyone being passive aggressive. It constantly making everyone worse by being a negative presence. It doesn’t help anyone
McCants always acting like he never did anything wrong at all ever 😂
It was bugging me he looked so familiar but I couldn't put a name to him .
I agree, looking back at how his career turned out he should probably be looking in the mirror if he hasn't done that yet
He talk like he in the hof
I didn't even know he played in the NBA until he said he played for the Timberwolves.
@@soccerdude601 less than 4 years in the early 2000s, he was more of a college star.
True I heard about him.
Gil and Kenyon be killing the convos
Kenyon mainly. Gil always says something that somewhat was thought about before he speaks with an interesting angle, but he can be long winded. Jennings is missed for times like this 😅
Thank you for speaking up about this. These kinds of coaches are really common at the youth level and people will say it’s acceptable because ‘pro’s like to be coached hard’.
Screaming and insulting and finger pointing is not coaching hard. It’s trash behavior and it ruins players mental states.
Players need confidence and freedom to realize their full potential. Can’t do that if they’re scared of the coach on the sidelines.
Van Gundy & George Karl are notoriously hated by a lot of players
I had coaches like that in baseball, The Krekos, the Kroschinsky's, the Norm Caigs. Always yelling and screaming at players.
😂😂😂😂 Kmart gave him a fallout warning!
lmao almost every player who talks about stan van gundy says he sucks even when theyre being nice
As a Pistons fan Stan literally sent us into the dark ages with both his coaching and president of basketball operations decisions. He ruined us to the point of a 10+ year rebuild. He’s the reason we could never develop any young talent. Had dudes like kris middleton and spencer dinwiddie in and out the door becoming real talent in other places 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
I'm sorry for your lose
Ur crazy as fuck bro pistons ain't been good since the van gundy days stan didn't ruin detroit😂😂😂😂 troy weaver and duane Casey did bro
Apparently Stan was riding his brother's coattails. The thing about people like Stan Van Gundy is that until it catches up with them they are incredibly nice to their bosses. That works until they get exposed for not being effective and end up out of the league. The problem is that because Jeff Van Gundy did a good job establishing the family name so this allowed his brother Stan to screw up several players and franchises. It ends up working out for Stan because by the time everyone catches onto his act he's got financial security.
i really was baffled how the van gundys got their coaching job
@@user-nv1gm2zj7ythey're jews. David Stern helped his own out. But I haven't seen anyone bad mouth Jeff's coaching, so idk
@@user-nv1gm2zj7yjeff van gundy is a defensive specialist, and was a superb coach for his time. A hard nosed coach, yea, but he had yao and tmac and nobody else on that roster, and they won... A lot.JVG is a legendary coach, his brother, not so much. Ill forever have love for JVG. Dude had his player buying into the system, and were brutal to play against. Dont compare fucking Stan to JVG. Stan thought demeaning his players was the way to go, JVG built up even the worst players, who probably shouldn't be in the league, to go out there and do the little things
@@user-nv1gm2zj7ygo back and look at those early tmac/yao era rosters that JVG was running. Its bad. But they won, and i dont see a damn one of them talking shit about JVG. They were the best, or one of the best defensive teams in the league, with no talent.
@@SeanJohn127svg made it farther with a historic offense the 4 out 1 big guy 3 point heavy offense we see now. Dwight was asked to do pick and rolls while dwight wanted to post up and thats a known fact. Cant do much when your star player averaged 15ppg in the finals
It is interesting how different Stan and Jeff Van Gundy were as coaches. Players seemed to love Jeff and hate Stan.
That is a great perspective from Rashad, and shows the importance of having a vet.
Learning a lot from y’all keep up the Great Content 💯💯💪🏾💪🏾🙏🏾
This the convos i be looking for
This is a powerful episode. Problem is they took wayyyy too long to talk about it.
Facts
Couldn't agree more... but it's all in fear of getted outed of the NBA.. All coaches & executives are buddies buddies and chit chat the same as players do in private.. glad to see them speak about SVG like this
Bad coaches can be the reason a player has a bad season. Now I understand
great stuff GA, keep going
Stan is the coach that comes in and can change a culture immediately, but his problem is once that culture is established he didn’t trust his players to govern that culture themselves. While Pat Riley once that culture established he trust his stars and vets to keep everyone in line. And when they start slipping a little bit then he chimes. That’s what make these top coaches the best!
Rashad McCants averaged 10 pts for his career (4 yrs) in the league. His talk doesn’t match what he did in the league. You can blame bad coaching all you want but that doesn’t affect your work ethic.
10 pts not bad.
This is one of the best times whete the group dynamic helped cuz how they react to what coaches said helps a lot we obviously weren’t there. Wouldn’t have minded if Jennings was here on this sode for that reason
Excellent talk. This right here is deeper than basketball
Great episode
Might be the best podcast out now.
Gil and Kenyon named one coach. McCants listed several coaches. McCants was the problem 😂😂😂
Great topic . On point fellas 🤙🏿
These conversations are gems!!!!🙏🏾🙏🏾⚡💥❤🔥
This segment made me feel ashamed of myself because I used to think Stan Van Gundy was in the right. The coaching culture was always messed up, centered around trying to discipline young black men. I say that because I've never seen a coach, black or white, yell at a white kid, ever. The worst part is, I used to experience that myself, having a horrible coach who is too simple minded to be anything other than racist but the problem goes deeper than that. If you think NBA players were affected by this, just imagine what kids like myself with no nba potential had to go through.
My coach jus made the white boys sit in the corner , plus ion think tht they are being racist it’s a pride thing they don’t realize these professionals kno the same if not more than the coach
Maybe it's where I'm from in the south, but white players got chewed out the same as black players. Middle school & high school ball anyways.. our teams weren't good though. One really good kid, who was white, that got the brunt of the coach's anger lol
@@devonydeleon5977 Having a feeling of pride will not cause other feelings to be completely non existent. Just because someone isn't riding around on a horse in a white sheet at night doesn't mean they aren't racist. I know people think the term gets thrown around too much now but im talking about what used to go on in the early 2000s a time where racism was subtle and unconscious. You might not have the flu but just because you only have a sore throat and a runny nose, that doesn't mean you aren't sick.
@@H41030v3rki110ny0u I went to high school not far from the area that KD went to high school. Montrose Christian was one of those prestigious schools you would always hear about. If you couldn't make the team of a school like that, you went to a school like mine, which is still really good competition were just not about to be playing with the best D1 bound talent the area has to offer. As kids we were all confident in ourselves and the coaches we had were old school and thought they had to break us so we could play their old tired brand of high school basketball. The coaches would often overreact and have temper tantrums. People aren't racist when everything is the way they want it but as soon as they get angry, that shit goes out the window.
Bob knight
Said it for years, the behind the scenes bullshit and all the politics are an aspect of the game that fans will never truly understand as far as how it can affect player and team development. Stories for day, months, years...
Great show
Gilbert n Stephen A would be one hell of a segment for ESPN😂😂😂😂
I'm STILL looking for an Orlando Magic Arenas jersey ...in XXL
Swole ahh
Got a 3x👀😂
@@Realm35😂
@@Realm35More like fat ahh😂
All I got is a Mcgrady and Hardaway in those sizes
Didn’t understand how he was a coach or even a coach for as long as he was 🤦🏽.. I remember watching a playoff game where skip was playing out of this world and he took him out for the rest of the game and put in an injured “mighty mouse” i couldn’t believe it .. just don’t get how and why for so long this guy was a coach.
Alston was killing it in those playoffs, Stan puts in Jameer and the magic shit the bed. Born and raised in Orlando, magic fan since birth, wrote that franchise off after that dumb ass shit
sounds like communication/delivery and know how is very important to be a coach it seems like from the outside looking in.
I remember Stan was coaching Orlando and was playing my hometown bucks in Milwaukee, magic was up by 20 and stand calls a timeout and cussed then out about their play still
These stories about coaches are crazy. I'm surprised there isn't better HR management of player personnel.
Van Gundy sitting Rafer Alston for Jameer in the Finals was a terrible move. Rafer led them there but for game 1 of the finals he starts Nelson after coming back from injury. Rafer was running the point great why sit him? There offense didn’t look the same when Jameer came back.
To be fair Jameer was looking like curry before injury
Biggest misremembered fact from that Finals, Jameer Nelson did not start a single game in that Finals. As a Magic fan that always confused me when people say that.
I remember Jameer starting. He most definitely closed with him. He didn’t get the shooters involved like Rafer. Also Hedo running the point forward gave them success. He took both away from the ball.
Rafer had the team on a roll
“Locker room stuff” lmaoo. Bro was trying to be Agent 0….07😂
I respect all these guys
I saw that in Orlando. I hated that they didn’t play you.
This is why I’m quick to slam the coaches especially when the media try to manipulate the audience into thinking the player is the problem 5:59
Yo Gil! You have a link for thar couch? Random question but im a tall dude and that joint looks like it fits my body type
If it’s happening in the league imagine how bad highschool and college is 😅
Difference in high school and college is the players can be blamed
In the NBA it's like they are there for a reason so the coach gets the blame mostly, at least this generation
These stories make you look at Van Gundy in a different light. A bunch of players have similar stories about Van Gundy.
Wait McCants only played 4 seasons and started in 39 games and he gets to be on a podcast 😂😂😂
And got the nerve to wear a crown 👑 and talk 💩about Lebron 😂
Exactly he’s so cringe
Because Gil wanted him on his podcast. So take it up with him.
@@lovelygivan1442 I was just saying it as statement ,who knows maybe he’ll see it in the comments,you seem more bothered by my comment though or for just excited for McCants who is he your boyfriend 😂
Damn how many seasons you play ?
I’m glad Rashad is on the show. I loved him at UNC and idk why he didn’t do better inda league.
Rashad out here talking like he mattered when he played 🤣🤣🤣
The moment stan became the coach of the pelicans, jj wanted out of there.
mccants better put some respect on mchale's name, that man was infinitely better as a player than rashad was
Stan acted more like a crazy fan than a coach 😂 I 😅😅
Stan Van Gundy was trying to Whiplash Dwight 😂
My high school coach was worse because he’d let others make mistakes. With me, he’d be on my ass and I was better than most on the team. The mental is the most important part of playing ball.
Brandon j should’ve been on the show this way. The way his teammates and coaches did him was insane
I love the rise of shoot interviews.
3:18 - You good KMart? daaamn
Van Gundy is a genius of basketball but I think the Pelicans were right to only keep him for one year. He improved every single players Individual game but as a team we were just average. He also has an ABRASIVE personality, I heard him say he had better handles than Lonzo and that Lonzo needed to learn how to dribble cuz there was no saving his ugly shot. Which was true but that would pizz me off
Great to see these emotionally abusive coaches be put on blast! Theres too many good coaches out there these days for these type of dudes to have jobs.
Man yall SPITTIN!!!!!
Doc was doin that with maxey his first year. Paul reed to. Downplayed every good thing they did then didn’t play him in the playoffs when they we’re exactly what the team needed. Doc went threw 20 old centers he coached before to play back up when he should’ve prepared reed for the playoff. That would’ve been huge when Joel got his face smashed in. Some coaches seem like a drag to play for.
McCants steady blaming coaches for his shortcomings.
🙏🙏Blessings forever GOD loves y'all too forever tell everyone you know and don't know. Jesus loves y'all too forever. Teach everyone how to see and enjoy their blessings too foreverd
Coaches don't get ENOUGH criticism
But COACHES get most of credit when the TEAM succeeds
I've seen McCants take responsibility for his shortcomings as well.
@@MacNifthat's true but Mccants talking about coaches like Roy Williams who made many young black men better and millionaires. Some of that toughness works lol.
That’s why I believe Ayton gonna break out Monty did he wrong asf
Doubt it. Ayton attitude is just not good enough
@@brendanhunter389 Ayton has a bad attitude. But also.. PHX matches IND offer sheet. Holding that mf hostage 😂
Ayton definitely somebody to watch
Ayton is hot trash I been gave up bro don’t care about basketball 😂
Shooting 60% FG 75% FT and only getting 12 shots per game. Smh sad. They wasting him over there
I respect guys input even if they were not a star or superstar they still played in the league even if it was just a few years
I remember Dwight Howard asking for plays be called for him, because even though he's the franchise player, SVG wasn't calling plays for him
SVG responded with basically, just score with the rebounds he gets.
No Dwight had plays called for him a lot..Dwight wanted to do things beyond his skill set...SVG put Dwight in the best position ever in his career
I really feel people overhyped Dwight at the time which led to his own fault on the Lakers
All he had to do was play D, get rebounds and chill but he wanted to be this athletic offensive player that he wasn't
Ride the 17-20 ppg and 14 rpg and he would've been the man
So crazy this important factor is always left out in the goat debate. One had a top 3 all time coach the other had trash ass coaches
He ruined the Pistons. Somehow he got a GM job after this debacle. Still picking up the pieces...
Every piston fan should hate him (like myself)
Did Kenyon bones crack when he bad that move or did they put that sound effect in there cuz that shit sounds crazy lol
I see it’s his watch making all that damn noise lol
Confidence is the game of basketball❤❤it can wreck a career😢
When I played JUCO ball we had a head coach that would curse us the fuck out every practice. Even after I had a 100+ tackle season this man still asked me “Cornejo, wtf did you do last year? Absolutely nothing!” Lmao it had to have been his way of trying to get us right but in all honesty that Shit was STRESSFUL!
So as a coach now, the only time I go off on my players is if they’re doing shit they know they shouldn’t be doing. And even then I just give ‘em a look and they know wassup lol. Coaches have to teach at the end of the day
Same reason why I got into coaching
Player perspectives are CRUCIAL
Saw that happen to Vince Young in the NFL.
Hard nose players like gary payton didnt have that problem didnt mike pratice hard and talked shit phil didnt have to do shi thats why none of these guys coulda played with mike
Fr.. even Kobe lol
Kobe actually quit respecting Phil.
Phil Jackson gave Kupchak an ultimatum - “Kobe or me.” Lakers traded Shaq and let Phil walk.
Then after two losing seasons they re-hired Phil (2006) and went to 3 straight Finals. Kobe had matured and quit disrespecting Phil in front of the team.