F30 BMW 335i | My Experience Driving Stock VS Bootmod3 Stage 1 VS Bootmod3 Stage 2
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- čas přidán 10. 11. 2020
- I get a lot of questions about driving my car with a tune. People want to know if its worth making the jump from stock to stage 1 and from stage 1 to stage 2. In this video I will be going on a drive and talking about my experiences, both good and bad. I will also let you know if I think its worth upgrading your tune.
Mod List:
BMS performance intake
VRSF charge pipe
VRSF high flow downpipe
VRSF 5" HD intercooler
AWE Touring exhaust
Wiechers Sport front strut brace
Bootmod3 engine + transmission tune
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Finally someone with a brain who explains the details not just saying "wow" "so fast" "pull so hard"
Thanks and I know what you mean. You really gotta experience it to know the difference, but I do my best to explain.
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Old video but wanted to say you have by far the best car guide videos on CZcams. You’re a blessing man
Glad it Helped!
Keep up the work channel doing really good
this was a great video....i have had my f10 for about two years now and i have been halting the upgrades for no reason....its great you spoke about the experience of the whole thing because that was exactly what i was wondering about. I now know to go ahead and get the power thanks
Glad it helped
Woah i have the same exhaust and intake as you! good to know my car will sound this great with the addition of a downpipe. nice build
Thanks. The downpipe really did make a nice difference. And you need it if you're planning on tuning it past stage 1.
Thanks for the video bro very useful. Keep it up. Keep explaining all the little details as well. Thanks
Thanks. Glad it helped
Honestly the torque is the best part of tuning these cars … at low speed the ability to downshift and just overtake people is crazy and I have XDRIVE so it literally just boogies
This guy knows what he's talking about. Got that right away when he said make sure your maintenance is up to date. 👏 Props dude
Thanks! Glad it was helpful
@@NWAuto Hopefully people take your advice. That's one big thing I stress for newer bmw owners. Do your maintenance and preventative maintenance before anything else. You gotta stay on top of it. If so it'll be reliable forever. Fail to do so and you'll be like everyone else saying BMWs are unreliable.
@@jarodvincent6199 Yeah many people will ignore codes and weird noises/smells, while continuing to modify theirs cars
Great video man! Been looking at tuning my 335
Thanks. You definitely should. Yours looks really nice.
Thanks for the insight. Bought an f30 n55 6spd a few weeks ago and just purchased bootmod3 excited for some power gains!
I'm jealous you got the 6 speed. You're gonna love Bootmod3.
Going from JB4 to bootmod3 on my 2013 f30 335ix. Thanks for the info brother
Glad it helped. I think you'll like it
Just install BM3 last night on the F10x N55 and it's amazing. Your are very accurate on what you said. Big power jump at first sign, drive smooth, no issue, power die at 5000RPM. Keep posting man, good luck with the channel.
Thanks. These cars are so fun with a tune. Are you running stage 1?
@@NWAuto Yes, since last night. I could not imagine how fast it will be driving the M240i or M2. I found the car very speedy and it's a 5 series, the car is not chill anymore
@@John-qc1zv The problem now is that you will get used to it and want more. That always happens. I'm at stage 2 and now I'm looking into the Bootmod3 e30 tune.
@@NWAuto I have the VRSF intercooler on order, than will try Stage 2 and tha's it after for me. My wallet sais hopefully you are wrong 🤣
@@John-qc1zv Make sure you get a downpipe too for stage 2.
Good info on the differences. Love the POV video to help get a sense of the drive experience. Have you encountered any additional fuel/exhaust odors in the cabin due to the down pipe?
Thanks for the feedback. It helps a lot.
I have a catted down pipe so I barely notice a difference. I smell some fuel when I stand directly behind the car. Doesn’t really get in the cabin.
Nice informative video my man
Glad it helped
Nice vid. Just bought my first bmw and am super impatient waiting for it to be delivered. lol Watching ppl doing mods dreaming about what I’m going to do
Thanks. Which one did you buy? These cars are so much fun when you start modding them.
@@NWAuto just got a 2016 328i . My first project might be adding a backup camera. We'll see!
@@ZeusMcKraken The car already has a back up camera! You are good! 👍🏻
Once I go stage 2 plus on mhd ill be pushing 390hp and 480 torque which is crazy. Its ganna be huge difference from my current tune. Best cars for tuning 👌
Yes, everything I've heard, all 3ltr motors have the same press fit OE hub. Crazy...
Good job with the video.
Glad it helped
I love those tires
I know what you mean about the pedal feeling weak in echo mode. Mine is doing that rn
Super helpful video, appreciate it. Mind asking what type of spoiler is that?
That was OEM. But I did make a video recently where I installed a similar one on my new car. You can check that out if you're interested
I was scared to tune stock until I seen this but I’m still gotta go stage 2
Yeah I haven't had issues because of the tune. But its always a risk modifying cars
Honestly stage 1 is enough for me.. It’s the sound and pull’s on the green light’s for me ! 💨
Whats makes it sound better is it the burbles or louder revs in general?
@@settounite get a muffler delete it’s like 90$ and it’s the exhaust .
What would you recommend for someone that is trying to keep their car reliable and oem as possible.
I am planning on not removing the cats I’m trying to keep my car stock as possible. The only thing I will do is cat back exhaust system, and I do have a aftermarket warranty, not a BMW warranty.
Would you recommend JB4 or Bm3.
I find your videos really helpful.
I live in California and I don't have access to good gas. Finding anything above 91 is difficult. I bought a 2016 340i m-sport a couple weeks ago. I love the car and the power. I am looking at an MST Intake, vrsf downpipe (high flow catted). I will eventually go stage 1 bm3. Do I need to change the charge pipe? I really like the burbles on the m sport exhaust - I just want them 20% louder - I like the deep tone and low-end pops nothing excessive though as I have neighbors and don't want to be "that guy"
Glad they helped. I'm actually shopping for a 340i right now and I plan on making a ton of videos on that car.
I don't get 93 where I live either. And from what I've read, you don't need to do the charge pipe for stage 1 on the B58. The charge pipe upgrade was required on the N55 because one end of the charge pipe was connected to a moving part(engine), and the other was connected to a non moving part(intercooler). This caused some flex and end would crack under high boost. The B58 doesn't have this issue because the intercooler is bolted to the engine. But you can still do the charge pipe if you wanna be 100% sure you will never have any issues.
@@NWAuto Yes that's exactly what I read about the charge pipe and 340's. I may do it at some point just for peace of mind.
I hope you find a nice 340! I am so happy with mine - I got lucky and found a black one fully loaded with alum hex + blue trim. Can't wait to see you make content around it. Again, thanks for all the helpful information.
Also get a larger intercooler and larger flowing charge pipes not like the VRSF restrictive chargepipe. I have the Protuningfreaks charge pipe and it flows more than the VRSF one.
Yeah I'm not sure if that was out when I created this video. But I trust Protuningfreaks to make good products
Hmm, Foster my favorite for spirited drives as well
Yeah the curvy roads are nice. I did see a bike cop once hiding around a corner there though, gotta be careful.
Have u looked into MHD? Cuz MHD stage 2+ for ewg says 430 hp. So I was just wondering why is there such a gap in hp in the 2 tunes.
Yeah I saw that. Bootmod3 doesn't give me a stage 2+. Maybe they will update it and add the map eventually. The best I can do for now is the Bootmod3 E30 tune.
I don't think you need 'bigger' tyres, just better ones.
My M140i is only running 411bhp/576nm at the moment, and has smaller tyres (245/35/18 on the rear), and the Pilot sport 4 tyres are pretty good really.
Going to 460bhp+ soon.....
And you're RWD? Yeah maybe I should try the PS4s next.
@@NWAuto Yes the M140i in the UK is only RWD, we didn't get the xDrive version here.
It's still a bit sketchy in the wet, but in the dry it's really very good and I'd have to be a bit careless to spin it.
The pilot sport 4S are even better in the dry, but they are much worse in the wet, so the normal pilot sport 4 are the best compromise I think.
They seem to be wearing well too, which was a bonus.
Bruh these cars are fast as heck I’m on stage 1 and keep up with scatpacks and coyotes really well haven’t tried an ss yet but these were all random role races on the free way I beat both by a bumper most likely stock besides a muffler delete on both cause they were pretty loud
Yeah people asked my why I didn't buy a Lexus IS350 since Lexus is known for luxury and reliability. But you can't buy an IS350 and throw a flash tune on it and have it be this fast. These BMWs are special cars.
@@NWAuto I currently own a 2012 is 350 and plan on switching to a f30 335i would you recommend? The 350 has only given me 1 problem over the 3 years I have owned it and it was a $75 diy, how is the realibility of a f30 335i???
@@fr3dyy232 I have a video where I went over every problem I had with my car after nearly three years of ownership. You should check that out. The IS350 is definitely more reliable. But the 335i is faster stock and can easily be modified for way more power.
Hey thanks for the amazing video. With downpipes what’s the situation with emissions ???
Thanks. And I took my emissions test before adding the downpipe. But I've heard of people passing with catted.
Hey buddy, did the HP max amount on the screen change with the mapping or it requires extra configuration to be done? thanks for the info!
It happened automatically when I tuned it.
Any chance you could post a vid like this (interior POV) with the windows up? I have a 2015 F32 with the MPE and curious to see how your interior engine sound is with the downpipe. Even with the MPE I can barely hear anything with the windows closed
Yeah I'll make one and let you know when it's out. But I used to have the MPE and I know what you mean. These interiors are insulated pretty well. Even my current setup with AWE Touring exhaust and downpipe is much quieter inside with windows up.
I put out a video comparing windows up to windows down interior sound. You can check that out.
Its 3rd and 6th that have the torque limitations
I have a question! I have 2015 BMW 435i but with the M power Kit it has the M Power Intake and Tune i believe. Will it still flash?
I don't have any experience with it. But I'm seeing some posts in the forums where people with MPPK tried different tunes. You can try asking in a forum or F30 Facebook group
3rd n 6th gear torque limitation is removed
I noticed your sport display of hp and tq showed in teh 400 power range. Does this occur when you tune the car?
Yeah it happened after the tune
After 400hp it is very hard to put all this power to the ground and all these hp start loseing sense. I have seen how m3 and m4 have a hard time to put power to the ground and how stock 2019 m340i xDrive with 385hp beats stock m4 with 430hp in a quarter mile drag race
Yeah thats why the new M3 will have an xDrive version for the firs time ever. Its been raining a lot where I live so I've had to take it easy on the throttle.
@@NWAuto buy m3 g80 an m4 g82 will be avaliable with xDrive only in a year. 2021 models of m3 and m4 and competition will be rwd only :(
@@valeriysyutkin4940 I'll buy a CPO G80 in 3 years if we get a good fix for the grill from after market companies. I'd still probably get it in RWD though since I want a manual and I'm not sure if AWD with manual will be available.
how many miles do you have on it if you don’t mind me asking? i have a 2014 335i with 60k miles and planning on doing the dme stage 2 tune.
The car is at 70k now
People use eco mode? 😂😂😂 Might as well not exist in my car
Anyways awesome video, I'm in about the same place as you. Looking at stage 1 bm3, but downpipe is kind of a no go, thanks CA. Hope the transmission tune and power bump will still be a little bit present
Could do a downpipe and just switch back to stock whenever you need to. And eco is perfect for when I'm stuck in traffic
@@NWAuto yeah that is an option. Haven't done a downpipe swap yet so I'm not super aware of how long it takes. I don't have a lift either so I'd be on ramps or jack stands.
I guess traffic makes sense haha but doesn't it just disable the turbo spooling?
Just got a 2015 335 ordered AWE exhaust intake and boot mode . Am in California so emission rule suck. Not sure if a down pipe and charge pipe is worth the hassle? Any advice
Get a charge pipe for sure. That doesn't affect emissions. And I passed emissions and then did the downpipe right after
Thanks for your help.
Any advice on a good smog shop I can work with 😉
Great video but where did you get that steering wheel from?
Thanks. And thats the factory steering wheel, I never changed it.
its a factory M sport package steering wheel it's also in the m235i
My car is stock I have a 2018 bmw 330i if I apply stage 1 will my car have some burbles
If the burbles are set to OTS then it should increase the aggression
Why would you ever drive in Eco mode? I have an M240i, and have never used the Eco mode.
I use it in traffic. I'm doing either Eco or Sport/Sport+. Never comfort mode for me.
Can you do more then one car , do you have to buy different licenses again ?
The license can be transferred from one car to another for free one time. You have to pay if you want to transfer again after that.
Is the power of stage 2 similar to a stock M2 2015-16?
Yeah it should be pretty similar. It would be an interesting race between those two
DME claims they offer 400plus hp for stage 1 and 420 for stage 2. Is this true?
Seems kind of high. But I guess the only way to verify is through Dyno
Bro you’re radar is pointing upwards, if you put it straight looking to the road, the signal strength is way more better
Yeah I bent the mount back into place.
but how do you know how many horsepowers gives u that stage 1
The Bootmod3 website shows about how much HP you will be making on each map
hey! fellow PNW here, is that a retrofit for the idrive display?
The display and everything on it is stock. I just had the numbers on the sport displays increased after I tuned it.
even with bootmod3 the car is still stock if you really want to experience it more go get an LSD and good suspension this is the only thing that is different in driving an ma car and non m car other than power and wide body
Yeah I drove an F80 M3 and the difference between how the two cars feel to drive is huge. Coilovers would help my car a lot.
try 275 on the rear
Hello NW Auto. I'm driving a 335i ActiveHybrid 3 with Stage 1 tune, so 400hp. It's doing what you describe in the video, hard upshifting with a noticeable kick. Especially when cold. When the engine warms up, it's much less noticeable. Higher gears aren't distinguishable, but lower gears are. This car was tuned in 2017, according to the previous owner. Does this sound like a tune thing, or something else? I did do both adaptation resets, and it might have helped a little, hard to say. I also cleaned my MAF. There are no codes. Basically first 20 minutes when driving cold, low gear shifts are quite punchy, and when slowing down to an intersection, turning right and applying more gas after braking, it might downshift quite hard and it feels like a kick from behind and it's trying to figure out what I'm doing. Trans fluid was changed and trans serviced like 2 years ago. This happens on all driving modes, sport, etc. Kicking might be the wrong word, it's more like, I can easily feel gear changes. The accelerator is also pretty eager, just by pressing my toe down on it, the car is already ready to fly, so there is no hesitation.
I can't tell for sure what it is. Data logging might help. But for me doing the trans tune helped smooth things out. And I just made sure to let it warm up properly
@@NWAuto I'll apply a fresh bootmod tomorrow, since the last tune was made such a long time ago, and in a shop. I'll see what that does.
@@NicoEvaluates Yeah let me know if you figure it out. I'm curious about the issue
@@NWAuto New bootmod3 is in. Initial shift from 1st to 2nd when cold is still punchy, but it does seem smoother now, though every lower gear still makes a very definitive "pause" and I can tell when gears shift. I'll try the stock tune some day, but it does seem better. I'm not sure if this is what you're experiencing as well with the tune.
@@NicoEvaluates yeah I had that happen after installing my downpipe and going stage 2. But it only happened for a few minutes after cold start and got better as the car warmed up. I wonder if XHP flash could help with that
What are stage 2 requirements?
high flow or catless downpipe and aluminum charge pipe. You can also upgrade the intercooler
For stage 1 can you leave everything stock including the exhaust?
Yeah you can. But I recommend installing at least an aluminum charge pipe. The stock one is plastic and tends to break with higher boost.
@@NWAuto thanks man you answered hella fast but also should I do a muff delete or is it gonna be to loud??
@@AK-qj6mb I've been around a 335i that had a muffler delete and kept the stock resonated midpipe. It wasn't too loud. You could start with a muffler delete and then buy a performance muffler if it ends up being annoying. Or just do a resonator delete and downpipe.
@@NWAuto thank you so much man keep up the good content appreciated it
@@NWAuto hey man last question can you send the link oh where to get the Ethernet adapter for the iPhone
What's your burble settings please.
Duration - 0.7
Duration sport - 0.7
Aggression - 3.2
Aggression sport - 3.6
Min speed - 0
Max speed - 98kph
Min RPM - 1350
Max RPM - 5950
@@NWAuto I basically want it to crackle. Not pop or bang. Similar to the m3 in your battle video. How can.i achieve that please?
@@flawlessko you could try lowering aggression and increasing duration. What exact setup do you have?
@@NWAuto so mines n55 catless, res delete, stock muffler. Stage 2, bm3
What’s your POV camera setup?
GoPro with a shitty head mount I got on Amazon. Works pretty well since you can connect your GoPro to your phone to make sure the angle is good.
@@NWAuto oh, nice! Which go pro?
Hero 7 black. What’s your setup?
@@NWAuto 2x iPhone X’s and 2 shitty suction cup mounts off Amazon lol. My mic is saramaonic blink (lightning port connector)
iPhone cameras are really good these days. Maybe add a GoPro with tripod at some point and you should be fine.
How are you getting the cars in your review videos?
do you drive this in the snow?
Hasn't really snowed where I live since I bought the car.
But if it did I think it would be just fine since I have good tires. I would just take it easy on the gas. My biggest concern is other drivers being stupid and hitting me.
@@NWAuto yeah I just got the 340 this summer and got a pair of winter tires but was kinda worried since it's rwd lol
@@darkmkv just make sure you have full coverage. People daily drive Hellcats in places that get a lot of snow.
Damn well thanks for letting me know. That relives some pressure off my shoulders
My next car will definitely be a F30 🔥
if stage 2 had more power i’m pretty sure id be in jail
Thats how I feel, but I still wish Bootmod3 had stage 2 plus.
Power corrupts. Never enough
Thats what Im saying
What wheels are those?
Style 763M replica wheels. Got them from Ebay a while ago, but I can't find them anymore.
Pure turbo+keyed crank hub.....
Do you need the crank hub done on N55?
I tried both MHD is better.
What do you like more about MHD?
Show us dragy results for stock/stage1/stage2, "power come up" is a useless statement
I am definitely planning on buying a Dragy and doing that. But that was never the point of this video. In this video I just wanted to explain my experience with the three different tunes.
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