LTT Screwdriver Vs Klein
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- čas přidán 16. 01. 2024
- You asked for it and here it is. As I said I'm not a fan of ratcheting screwdrivers but as far as this one goes it seems well made.
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Issues I was not expecting Funk to focus on: 1. lack of continuity between shade of orange used on the packaging VS shade of orange used on the driver
😂, to be fair Linus has done multiple videos on their Pantone colour matching, and how much effort they went to, in order to get the colours of the plastics used just right, you would expect the box to match as well with the LTT Orange.
Though it’s an impossible job with the different processes and materials involved. Sometimes close enough just has to be close enough.
@@RionTokymaka you know what though, it matched up with the orange outline of the driver on the packaging pretty good
@@RionTokymaka It's a freaking screwdriver. Color matching?? Does it make the screwdriver function better?
Throw the box away. Problem solved.😅
@@tweedeldee8122 the issue I'd say isn't the color matching, but chance that it's a knock off. Imagine buying a dewalt tool online and getting a dark yellow and black tool, instead of the usual bright yellow and black. I'd immediately think it's a knockoff and try to return it, because a knockoff will generally under-perform compared to the original (also price difference).
Hey thanks for checking it out! Always appreciate getting new perspectives on our efforts and I think you will be very excited to see some of the stuff we have in the pipeline :D - LS
Thanks for doing what you all do 😎👍🏻
my LTT started skipping gears on the ratcheting function
@@hongtanke kinda the wrong place to say this, id check their Support
@@hongtankeyeah, go ahead and contact support there bud
We just refuse to support LTT
FunkFPV Tech Tip: unplug it and plug it back in, there you go 👍
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I have a terrible history with ratcheting drivers. As soon as I use them with bear-force on a stubborn screw they break internally.
I will never understand why someone doesn't do a 1 way roller bearing screwdriver with that has two 1 way rollers that you can engage for forward/lock/reverse and then you would have zero angle ratcheting and also a mechanism stronger than the bits...quick Google tells me that does indeed exist it's called Rolgear.
@@THeBoZZHoGG Million dollar idea bro go make it!
I used to own the Husky ratcheting screwdriver (with swappable colored bit holder ends) and I used to use it to drive 1/4in head screws in walls and wood panels all the time. After about 1 1/2 years of nearly daily use, I did notice a little more slop on the ratcheting mechanism but then again, I would hammer on the driver sometimes.
Long story short, I used it fairly aggressively and never broke it (did lose it in a attic tho :/ )
Also if you're torquing or require so much torque to loosen a bolt/screw, probably need a regular ratchet instead, or an impact driver
I was going to try to break this one but it’s too expensive 😜
I also have terrible experiences with them. Nor for their build quality but the whole concept is unusable. It combines all the worst aspects of solid scredriver and a power tool.
I got the LTT Ratchet screwdriver when it first came out. I work on larger vessels as a junior engineer. It is a jack of all trades, kind of career so I use that driver for all sorts of applications and I personally love it. I have never been much of a "show off" kind of guy with tools but it is pretty interesting to see this tool get noticed whenever I hand it to someone new and they try it. I can only describe it like that friday scene when someone smokes the blunt and then stares at it. Lol
I do industrial maintenance ive tried the ltt screwdriver but they do poorly when your covered in grease and oil, and mine jammed up with debris, i like my klein 8-1 Screwdriver, but i get it the ltt screwdriver is for cleaner environments pc building etc etc
One detail a lot of folks miss is the little divider between the bits in the handle... the black separator can be spun out of the way to load longer bits or used to help align the included bits.
The divider is useless. They should have just left that out and just spin the bit holder itself to be offset. The divider always moves on my holder.
@@sekazimine has been fine 🤷♂️
@@sekazi mine does not shift out of place, but I had the same thought when I got it that it was kind of a redundant part. but I guess some OCD types would probably appreciate the bits being line up nicely.
This was not the crossover I was expecting, but I am pleasantly surprised.
What were you expecting? Gaming Forklift? I'm in.
What crossover?
One of the weirdest criticisms of the LTT driver was the bits. People kept saying they were proprietary, but they're not at all. They're just half sized bits used by a whole lot of other drivers (their tip designs are different, but the shaft size is the same). Very specifically, those trying to have a slim profile. Been using them for years in small right angle drivers
You can use the regular size bits too, you just can't fit them in the onboard storage
@@James2210 Yes you can, you just can't fit as many. This was discussed before the driver shipped. The entire reason he decided on the short bits were to have more on board.
Remember, the only difference between the bits is the length, not the diameter
Klein uses them in their multi stubby driver.
@@dtune30 Are you telling me Klein is using LTT's super patented proprietary driver bits? Son of a gun /a haha
The biggest criticism is the price. Its not worth it.
FYI: Regarding ratcheting screw drivers... there are 3 positions to the direction ring. If you turn it to the center position (between left and right) it locks the ratchet and turns it into a "regular" screwdriver if you don't want to use it as a "ratcheting" screwdriver.
But it cost extra, has some play, and probably breaks at lower torque than a regular screwdriver. It's not a replacement for a set of high quality non-ratcheting screwdrivers, it's a different product.
@@LaughingOrange- no one would buy it as a replacement for a non-ratcheting screwdriver. The purpose of that setting is for people who will use it as a ratcheting driver most of the time, but occasionally they need to be able to go in and out without changing ratchet direction.
@@LaughingOrange Obviously it isn't as good as the thing that is purpose built for the specific task, it's just a useful tool that covers a lot of people's needs for most applications
@@LaughingOrange Their audience are PC enthusiasts. The stuff most of them would be using this for wouldn't involve tightening screws until the point that they can't be removed, which it seems is the only way you know how to tighten a screw.
That combo "electrician" bit it to fit screws that are made to fit slot, Phillips, and square Robinson drivers. So it is a combination of all three drivers together. This is how weird standards happen.
Haha
ECX is a brand name for it, IIRC. I've wanted one of those bits for a while now, to pair with a screwdriver of my choice. It seems extremely useful specifically for the electrical field.
Yea that combo screw head was purposely created for homeowners that only own one type of screwdriver. I've only seen them on electrical stuff
@@DingleFlopthey're definitely my preference for working with electrical! it just feels solid and works. if you have a big Phillips laying around, grinding it down works well enough
ECX is Milwaukee's trade name for it. Every other brand like Klein and Ideal have to call it a combo tip. Better for electrical. Fits device terminal screws better and are way less likely to cam out. Also certain brands of breakers will take the same bit which makes it nicer for torquing down and not camming those out either.
I have an LTT Screwdriver and use it for most projects. Best screwdriver I have. The idea for the empty slot is for putting the bit into it so you don't have a bit in the driver when traveling.
works good as an ice cube chissle to for ice in mixed drinks.
@@poikelos6291works good as a hammer too!
Yo I'm stupid. I've been passively looking around for my missing bit for the pass couple months. Completely forgot about that feature.
Also so you can use the socket, I'd guess. Seems like part of its design is for installing and removing motherboard standoffs.
You sure it’s not for a 1/4” but driver? The Klein other one has 14,5/16, 3/8 and 7,16 I believe
Please keep making your videos out of all my channels yours is one of my favorites! I’m glad to see you expanding you can definitely be a full time you tuber
If I was 20 years younger I’d give going full time a shot. I’ve got too many responsibilities to give up my day job now.
@@FunkFPV the day job is what we do because we have to… trust me I design asphalt, keep posting the way you do and it will fall in to place you content is worth watching over the last 45 mins of shorts I spent my time on lol 😂
I’m with you on ratcheting screwdrivers - always feel less solid compared to a normal screwdriver and you have to keep remembering which way it’s going to ratchet
I understand, but I have a ratcheting screwdriver, not sure what brand but it was my grandpa's, but I would probably say it's been used for almost 50 years now
Plus Klein's non-ratcheting screwdriver is probably the best one out there even compared to Snap-On. Holds the most bits, has the swivel ass that basically does the ratchet's job anyway, has the extendible shaft(giggity) and that shaft happens to be a 1/4" hex shaft so you can put a wrench on it for more leverage. I keep a 1/4" box end wrench rubber banded to the handle just for that.
Gotta use it right..
especially when you hit it with your linemans to tighten a locknut
Plus the the problem withdetachable tips - aslo in poer tools - is that you can not see what size tip you have on. Unlike nomrla scredriver clear makings and you can even identify them by length.
7:30 this is called a “combo tip” bit and it is used ALL the time in electrical work. Electrical panel covers, grounding terminals, maybe 40-50% of screws in electrical have this design. You can use a robertson or a flat head to remove the screws but this bit gives you more torque capability than a robertson and will not slide out like a flat!
Dude! This is the exact type of review I wanted from the exact right person
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would never have expected a computer teardown from this channel. keep being awesome!
This is so cool seeing Klein tools!! My mother's maiden name is Klein, her side is all distantly related to the Klein tool founding family. My grandfather even was the manager of the Illinois plant until it moved to Texas a while ago. These are the tools we always had in the house growing up, still got a few myself!!
I have a couple of old Kobalt drivers that use a planetary and a sprag instead of a rachet mechanism. Super smooth with zero back drag. It's too bad I can't find anything like them anymore.
Wera uses a planetary drive. Can't say if it's the same or not
I enjoyed the review man! I only use my LTT screwdriver at home. It's too "dainty" for industrial applications, but the next time you're building a PC, you'll be glad you have it in your toolbox.
It works great for automotive
Love that yellow one.I've got a great unit with multi-bits around the front of the handle covered by a clear cup.So handy if you could just slide the bits out. But mine is 20 years old and the perfect tool for inside the house.
Reason they went with no rubber on the grip, in part is because over time the rubber breaks down and starts to become sticky/slimy feeling. Especially if used in solvent or petroleum soaked environments.
@BigBear - - then just use a regular screwdriver lol
@@victormondragon4184 What does this have to do with anything? Like regular screwdrivers aren't sold with rubber overmold grips?
You can watch the LTT video on their actual design process for the screwdriver and the thoughts that went into it. I was just explaining why they designed it the way they did.
If you don't like the no rubber handle on the LTT screwdriver, then just get the Megapro Automotive Ratcheting Screwdriver...which is the one the LTT is based on except it costs half the price, has a rubber overmold grip, and uses standard length bits.
They have solvent resistant “rubber” material. My guess is it was for cost savings
@@FunkFPV Solvent maybe, but the usual Butyl overmold grips do start to break down from petroleum products over time. As far as their reasoning, the explicitly state that as the reason in their design/release video for the LTT Screwdriver. They were trying to design the best screwdriver for all use cases, that'll last, not just for electronics, which is why they didn't go with any rubber overmold. If you're interested in rubber grips, get the Megapro Automotive Ratcheting Screwdriver, it's the one the LTT is based on, and licensed the core design from, except it has rubber overmold grips, and uses standard size bits, as it has a slightly longer grip. It's also about half the price at around $30-35.
I use a pistol grip ratcheting driver. I have a bit of carpel tunnel and arthritis in my hands from years of turning wrenches. The pistol grip drivers just put less strain on my hands and wrist. And you can get a good amount of leverage on one too. I have one with a little revolver looking barrel on it that holds the bits, and you just rotate it to the bit you want, and slide the little switch on top, and it automatically loads that bit for you. It's pretty nice. I also have a pistol grip electric driver. It's a cheap one from Harbor Freight. Only $12 bucks. It was a stocking stuffer someone gave me. I didn't expect much from it, But three years later and it's still working. Certainly worth $12 bucks i suppose. I also have the classic orange Snap-On ratcheting driver. But i hardly ever use it anymore.
Thanks for the review. Good thing you covered that Windows Vista Home product key. Wouldn't want anyone using that 😆. I still have an old Dell OptiPlex 160L that has a Windows XP Pro product key label. As an IT guy. I rarely use a ratcheting screwdriver. It's a matter of preference. Some will prefer LTT. Some will prefer Klein. They both look like good, quality screwdrivers.
I always cover numbers if I don’t know the meaning of them 😜
What a lot people don't realize is that anything rubber will eventually turn back in to dino juice. It will will not last. Also, too many times, Klein 11 in 1s included, the rubber begins to slide up or down. Awesome review.
Two of my favorite CZcamsrs. Wish I could afford the LTT screwdrivers.
It would hecka cool to see Linus build Funk FPV a new Editing Computer!
You can afford one just as good if not better for a whole lot less. Around $20.
@@user-yi9vr5bw5o It happens every day. Ignorance is bliss.
@@user-yi9vr5bw5o And it's color coordinated. Makes the tool work soooo much better.
Censored comment. As usual.
When the LTT driver is new it's super slippery, but the plastic does wear in nicely and get to grip will - but still not nearly as grippy as rubber.
Best guy on CZcams. I haven’t missed a video in 3+ years. You rock.
Appreciate it 😎👍🏻
I’ve never really felt like I needed one at work (mechanic), but they got to me and I got one. It’s great for around the house! I was shocked by just how low the back drag was. If you hold the shaft and flick your wrist, it will go about a full rotation.
Yeah, I use mine all the time now. I used to keep a handful of different screw drivers both in my garage and in my office but now I can just keep my whole set in the garage because my LTT driver covers all of my day to day needs
always good to see a long form vid from ya C:
The LTT screwdriver was made by MegaPro. I have an old megapro which is branded Cisco, probably got it 20 years ago. Mine uses longer double ended bits. It’s nice to have the bits with the driver. The problem is the shaft that holds the bits is often too large to fit down into molded holes. So I honestly prefer just regular screwdrivers. Dont much care about ratcheting as even when buttery smooth it doesn’t have enough back pressure to ratchet reliably and is just frustrating.
It is NOT made by MegaPro, they look similar because Linus ripped off the MegaPro. Linus said so himself, & his are made in China, not Canada or the US like the MegaPro
@@koobs4549 Also incorrect. They licensed the bit holder and ratchet designs, then refined them. The bit holder is more compact, and the ratchet knob goes the other direction (one of the best features IMO). They really don't actually look very similar either except inside the bit holder, but you can't really call it a "rip off" either way when they licensed the design. The ratchet mechanism is made in China, but the rest is made and assembled in Canada.
@@Lord_zeel The price alone makes it a rip-off.
@@Lord_zeel So it's all made in Canada, except for the only part that really matters?
I’ve had that Klein 15-in-1 for years and love it, but my chick randomly bought me a Husky Continuous/Double Drive ratcheting screwdriver as a stocking stuffer this last Christmas and it’s actually pretty cool. If you’re ratcheting the screwdriver back and forth to tighten or loosen a screw, then it’ll still drive the screw whichever way you need it to on both turns of the screwdriver. So say you need to tighten a screw, when you’re ratcheting the screwdriver each turn left and right will both still drive the screw right, so there’s no wasted turn when you ratchet back and forth. I’m sure there’s better brands, but the Husky is actually pretty smooth.
black magic
You can't reverse something without constraining the reaction force, is there an extra part that needs to be held still to make the double action feature work?
Been turning a screwdriver for decades, i just can't get the motion of a ratcheting screwdriver. Using a normal driver - palming the end and giving it the ol finger twist (lol) always felt more natural and quicker. Thanks for giving this a review from the prospective of a heavy equipment guy.
I got to know you through your shorts. You are a fascinating fellow! I am not a tech tuber, but I have a bunch of interest in that. Good luck on your tech journey!
really great review. I just have to say that according to them, the bit length IS a standard, it's nust not as widespread as the longer, "normal" kind. They opted for the shorter standard in order to fit more in the handle. (or to make the handle shorter. depends on how you look at it)
I might have gotten confused with the people saying they’re proprietary? Either way no big deal considering the price to replace them 😎👍🏻
@@FunkFPV In the bit-holder, there is a small black rotatable ring/star so you can store regular bits in the handle. Wish they'd have added an extra phillips and torx bit rather than the silly robertson ones though.
@@zybch They're Canadian though - and up here Robertson bits are as common as Philips. Much better bit - and cheaper screws than torx or hex.
As an American, I appreciate the inclusion of the Robertson bits. They may not be all over the place here, but they're useful when doing electrical work.
@@zybchsilly Robertson? I take it you've never actually touched a tool in your life?
This is a great review. I love the deadpan deliver on everything and the tape thing was a novel idea.
If you want a similar feel and overall design, as well as saving some money and some better grip texture. Just get the MegaPro Automotive ratcheting screwdriver. That's the screwdriver the LTT is based on. It's similarly very nice to use, probably the next best one, except its takes full size hex bits, and has some rubber overmold on the grip. The ratcheting mechanism is more classic in the sense that it's in the opposite direction from torque direction. For $30-35 it's probably the best ratcheting driver, before you jump to the LTT.
You made some good points during the review. I have another brand's racketing screw driver that is more like the Klein and use it everyday. Just throwing it in my pocket often saves me a trip back out to my truck to grab the tool bag.
Linus seems like a good guy and I appreciate the content he makes.
I ordered Nov 24th, 2023 and got my order Dec 1st.
Linus is far from a good guy. Dude stole equipment from a small vender and auctioned it off, then when he got called out for it released a apology video worthy as corny as the South Park remake of BP’s skit from their oil spill a decade ago.
For reference, LTT started out with MegaPro's base design and materials and licensed the right to produce a tool using those. Most of the changes from there were tweaks to optimize it for the kind of work and problems they'd had with other screwdrivers while working in computers and on network/server racks, and make it fit better in hand. Megapro makes some really nice multibit screwdrivers and the Delrin bit holders snap open smoothly and with a sense of authority, but they're definitely bigger and clunkier.
Great video and review, I have a T handle racheting screw driver that I use around the house it's definitely a low quality one but it gets the job done. I I remember right they mentioned that the reasoning for the smaller bits was to make better use of the magnet when building PCs.
Said it before ; this man is the only one i really trust with this kind of videos .
Unsure if you mean Linus or funk
Don't forget Progect Farm!!
Coming to say this, he is completely unbiased in his testing@@seniorxj2931
He has so much dad energy. I can feel it from the screen
@@barrelsynapsehaha 😜
Yeah I need that screw driver. We can get hockey tape that's rubberized to fix the handle but yeah thanks for reviewing that cause now I'm for sure buying one.
You're like the one dude who reviews tools who I actually trust
I think Funk watches quite a bit of LLT. The dig on the box vs handle color and then constantly dropping the screwdriver while using it 😂 Gold
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I just got the Stubby one. IMO, a nice ratcheting screwdriver for confined spaces is really nice. Plus i already have an old full-size Snap-on ratcheting screwdriver and the Blue-point one too.
Dude that was hilariously great. That bit about server room was funny
Good review as always
Yeah, I'd have to slap a little skateboard grip tape on that handle
Project Farm got in on the testing of the LTT screwdriver and it scored pretty high.
I did really well with his testing. That’s what made me think it wasn’t just a toy.
Enjoyed the comparison I have both as well (maybe not quite the same Klein one) and I do find myself using the LTT one most of the time. One thing you didn't really cover which is something I like about the LTT one is especially with computers when you get the screws loosened a bit you can use the knurled part to really spin them quickly loose - so ratchet at the start and then just spin the shaft only.
As to the handle, it's fine for me but I can see for some they might find it slippery, I'd go with some hockey stick tape. Gives great grip.
The Williams is similar in price and made in the USA. It also comes with a set of Snap-On bits. Ratcheting screwdrivers seem inferior to an impact until you have to tighten a lot of screws that you don't want to damage.
you got a part number for the williams?
@@timothymunz929 wrs-1
I've been an IT professional for over 20 years. My work screwdrivers are a Picquic handle with a custom selection of Wiha bits specific to the location their kept (like the server room one has all the Trox sizes common to HP servers). The extra long shank Wiha PH2 bits I prefer are like $16 a piece, but I've only worn out 1 in over 2 decades, so kinda worth it. For the stuff I often deal with in IT, long narrow shank is a necessity the standard bits are unsuited to (and why the LTT driver is a non starter for me) and dedicated drivers for every type would take too much room and never be handy (like the GN tool kit)
I think each of those drivers costs me over $100 to kit out.
Oddly enough, I bought that same Klein screwdriver a couple weeks ago for the odd jobs tool cart. Was feeling shitty and felt like buying a new tool. I rather like it. Klein tools are usually pretty decent
For micro drivers, I really love my Wiha System 4 Drive-Loc set. The whole set fits into a small soft pouch withba could different handles and two dozen blades for all the common and uncommon micro bits I need with extended reach. I'm glad I assembled that kit back in the mid 2ks cause now each of thirst bit blades cost $12-16 each to replace when they wear out. To fully replace that set now would likely be over $300, and that's for a set of tools that takes up about the same volume as a phone.
Yeah, the only time I can't use my ratcheting driver is when I need to reach somewhere narrow, but that doesn't come up all that often
I think the thing LTT missed was a case for it with holding boxes for various screws on the sides. Could insert the driver shaft into that case. When working computers you always need to have some spare screws on hand. My thought for the case was instead of sorting-box latch caps to have pull-out magnets in each box like little micro-drawers, so a square cup with a magnet in it and a pinch-tongue handle to use it with.
Same, but I found some models on thingiverse to print that work well
I bought the LTT screwdriver almost a year ago now and it's the best screwdriver I've ever owned. I've used it on various electronics ( PC's, laptops, cell phones, TVs, etc etc) mechanical work on our cars, carpentry projects, changing batteries in my girls' "Night Bright" stuffed animals, and everything in between. It's been fantastic for whatever I've used it on. All that said, I know this screwdriver was made and marketed for PC/electronics use mainly, however, if LTT made a variation with a textured grip and a bit more robust, I think they would have an even bigger market with all the professional tradesmen jobs (mechanics, plumbing, HVAC, etc etc). I would totally buy that screwdriver too, just as I plan to buy the upcoming precision driver they are in development of.
I have the Klein one and just recently the glue for the rubber grip wore off so I had to re-glue it. Still my daily driver ratcheting screwdriver.
I must have something in my hands that affects rubber (like guys in VFX who can't touch latex without it going yellow and rotting it) that just melts rubber grips.
Some embossed detail would have been nice on the LTT one.
@@zybch lol
For the grip being slick. Personally I like it for torqueing down small screws. Helps keep from over torqueing them.
I don't know that it was a conscious design decision, but it seems to me there is at least one potential benefit to having the collar to set the ratchet direction work opposite of the direction you're turning the tool. If you are turning the tool under a load and the collar drags against something it won't change the direction of the ratcheting mechanism and suddenly "come free". One can imagine how sudden and unexpected unloading could lead to awkward, uncomfortable, or even painful situations, especially when working in tight spaces.
I just posted the same comment. A ratchet that is set by rotating in the same direction as you screw will drive you crazy as it "pops out of gear" unexpectedly.
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It's the same reason that a keyless chuck on a drill tightens "backwards"... if the chuck bumps the work, the chuck won't release.
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People just need to learn how to use the standard mechanism, which is exactly like using a keyless chuck. You grab the ratchet selector with one hand, and rotate the screwdriver body in the direction you want to go.
love your stuff man!
I'm with you on preferring non-ratcheted - it's faster to just use both hands and honestly less fatiguing. Maybe in a tight space ratcheting might be more handy, but then the screwdriver is too big for that anyway. For how much that thing costs, I find more use spending that on an electric screwdriver for those more tedious assemblies with lots of screws.
Biggest issues with electric drivers is not being able to properly feel how much torque you are using. Fine threads and delicate parts are just too easy to mess up that way.
for me its about the job need some torque I'm grabbing the non ratcheting if I have a lot of low torque screws ill always grab a ratcheting driver
I leave my ratchet driver in the locked position. I don’t know, I developed the skill of placing the round end of my manual drivers in my palm and can twist with my wrist and spin with my fingers tips all in one motion. It’s faster and I have a steady grip. Anything ratchet I have to drag my fingers on the return pull otherwise I put the screw back in half a turn. I gave up and returned to manual
@@Lord_zeel Yup, a few PC prebuilt companies have gotten dogged on for this by tech channels (once by LTT even) because they were using electric drivers that weren't torquing things down enough. There's been a few reviews where they've had pc parts almost hanging out of their slots... I can certainly understand not wanting/needing a ratcheting screwdriver in most other fields, but with small electronics/tech they are a must if you do a lot of disassembly/reassembly
@@reptarien The Star Forge, that was solved by them providing the same electric screwdriver to all their crew so they all had the same consistency?
The electrician bits are ECX. They're made to fit the screws in receptacles amons other things.
I was going to say EST 😜 Good thing I kept my mouth shut 😁
They work GREAT for that application as well. receptacle screws and greenfield connectors tighten so much better with an ECX bit.
Thank you for taking the time to do this. I wonder if you can rubber dip the handle and trim the excess.
I also have both the Klein and the LTT. Both are pretty good. I do prefer the LTT, especially around computers. And I think that is mostly due to the fine control of the ratchet. And the knurling, very helpful with how I use it.
Basically I leave the Klein in with my regular tools and leave the LTT near all my tech stuff/parts/etc.
"Standing in a server room talking about cable management" killed me.
I’m a Klein guy. Saw my cus get across two legs of 480 once - the shank disappeared, just the handle left, my cus, and his dirty underwear. Been a fan ever since.
I bought the impact rated Klein 11-in-1 this week even though Project Farm didn't rate it so hot. I like it. Good piece of kit for my home EDC-type tool bag where most of the stuff I do is standard sizes.
As a server admin, I LOVE the LLT screwdriver. The logical ratchet direction change is great, along with the magnetic bits, especially when you have to reach into narrow spaces and can't see what you're turning. As a professional IT guy, we only hand tighten equipment, because things tend to be fragile or bend easily. Also, server room talk usually relates to caffeine, cables, and calls we receive with no context, e.g. "it broke; please fix".
Thx for the review. I have the Klein Tools unit. It was a gift and it is excellent when I am doing electrical work.
Not to be contrary, but I like the opposite rotation directional switch versus the way the LTT is because it does not reset to the wrong direction in tight spaces with my thick hands(and skull).
Always glad I subscribed here. Don't change a thing on my account.
"It's nice to have nice things" is probably the most accurate review of this screwdriver. It's not something I'll buy, but if somebody whipped it out, I'd ask to touch it
I was definitely ready to be underwhelmed by the LTT driver, but honestly it was great in my most recent PC build. I'll definitely use it tons going forward. It would be nice to maybe have a rubber grip at the top of the handle for that extra oomph, but otherwise it's great.
I still think the bench mark for these types of tools is the Snap-on ratcheting screwdriver. I like the smoothness of the LTT but the 4-sided handle of the Snap-on makes for a better grip and applied torque. I had the Snap-on for professional use as an aviation hydraulics mechanic for 10 years.
I was given a screwdriver set from Amazon by a friend for Christmas, this screwdriver is identical to it, except the box. The orange was available in red and orange when I looked it up, it sells for $10 with 21 bits.
Good to see you still getting use out of that tactical box cutter
Nice review, thanks!
its very cool that you did the full LTT experience by dropping the screwdriver a few times
I did the exact thing, the klein went in my tool bag and the LTT went into my desk draw and will most likely be used only on computer stuff. Yes it was also my way of paying back to the channel for the good advice i got from them over the years. That said, it is well built and functional.
For the price of the LTT screwdriver, I got myself my mom and my grandmother a Klein Tools screwdriver.
Great review!
The crossover I never expected but really wanted
Funny you mentioned potentially looking at the Milwaukee Ratcheting screwdriver; the cheapo little DeWalt ones are actually apparently really good, not even counting their price point. Almost zero backdrag and decent grip feel. I have one that has the extendo shaft thingy which can be pretty handy. Bought it, took it out, walloped on it for a bit enough to have to lay into it, and it did fine. Keep it in the truck since I dont want to carry around 20 drivers.
If you have a dremel and a drill or lathe to spin the bit, it's pretty easy to use a cutoff wheel to cut a normal length bit down to the size that will fit in the LTT screwdriver. I got one just to support LTT since I watch so much of their stuff but it has become what I use the most for projects around the house.
The bit holder in the handle has a piece that can be rotated out of the way to hold standard sized bits.
@@steelbluesleepR Yes, but then you can only fit 6 bits in the handle instead of 12.
Gotta love these videos 🔥
I bought the LTT screwdriver to pay back the LTT team. Watching their videos basically gave me enough experience to land my first IT job. The screwdriver is phenominal. The backdrag in combo with the gnarled shaft makes quick work of screwing. The bit storage is wonderful, and the end cap actually swivels, which has its own ergonomic benefits. It doesn't have the best grip, but after heavy use it gains a sort of glossy patina, which oddly enough makes the grip better. Worth $70? To most, maybe not. But to me? Absolutely
They chose to not do a comfort grip because they wanted it to last forever and they were concerned about the grip breaking down over time. It’s probably less of a concern for soft hands without calluses. Also I think the end cap spins so you can hold pressure on it. I’m still waiting on a long term review from someone using it for construction and automotive before spending that much on one but there were some helpful reviews in this comment section
I dont use my ltt screw driver every day but when i do its really nice to have the super light backforce on the ratchet it makes switch plates and plug sockets a breeze one handed.
It is not a bad driver at all I have 2, a OG and the new stubby. I am by no means a Snap-On fan boy but I have 1 that failed (hand me down) that was 20 years old. Snap-on sent me a new one. When comparing the 2 the snap on felt so much better in the hand and way more solid. I also believe the back drag is so close it make zero difference. But, it is also like $149 so it better be "better."
Holy shit I had no idea you were an FPV guy! You have no idea how happy this makes me. I've only seen reposts of your short tool stuff lol. Also its pretty shocking Linus spent all that money on Pantone stuff and the colors still aren't perfectly matched. Doesn't look like a bad driver but for the price I just don't see how its worth it in any way shape or form outside of it being kept unopened as a collector's item. Linus got by on pure rank consumerism on this one lol.
I have the same klein one, really like the grip, if it had slightly better backdrag and rigid bit holder it would be perfect
New camera setup? Looks really good either way brother
Two parts of my youtube life I never would have thought would cross paths.
I have the klein ratcheting driver and I do like it, but my only issue is that around the 1-2 month range the grip on mine just started spinning freely with any moderate force applied to it.
My Klein 11-in-1 does the same thing. I think most of their screwdrivers do. You can warranty it. I buy mine from a local electrical supplier, I walk in, hand them the screwdriver and they give me a new one.
Having had this screwdriver for a year now, I wish the direction selector was the other way. Several times, I've used it to unscrew something, and bumped the selector against something that didn't move, and reversed the setting. With the selector the other way, it will pull further into the direction you're using it if it gets bit.
"I have never taken a heatsink off before" :D Just remember, it's okay to use lots of thermal paste for re-application! :D
The idea for ratcheting screwdrivers here is that you're in a confined space where slipping off the screw, which could also be very small, has expensive consequences. Though personally I prefer the rotating knob on the end like the ifixit screwdrivers.
The real selling point to me for the klein over the ltt was the price, ltt is $75 which is absolutely ridiculous for a screwdriver, im an electrician and a screwdriver is my most used tool, a regular klein 4-way is my go to, ratcheting screwdrivers are kinda useless
I used to be a mechanic and I now work in IT at a local PC shop we have a couple LTT drivers and almost a year later they are holding up very well and have been used for many things other than PC work my personal one has been used for some mechanic work also and has broken a few bits and still works as smooth as the day I got it.
LOVE THE LTT driver. The actuation force on the ratchet is so low its crazy. I love using it.
Edit: also I know you're doing this for a CZcams video so you're rushing but typically you don't try and rip down a computer as fast as you can well dropping the screwdriver all over the motherboard over and over. Which was hilarious thank you.
Dropping things on camera is very ltt brand 😂
The whole computer is going into the trash. He only wanted the hard drives, so the rest could have been smashed with a hammer for all it mattered.
If you want to make anything harder to do just turn on a camera LoL 😝
I think the flat black color makes it look pretty cool
Ratcheting is great for electronics, small spaces (which tend to come with electronics) and just generally putting small things together like 3d printers and such. They're perfect when you've gotta put in 8000 tiny screws.
Honest to God the only thing I can figure I want more from the LTT would be a rubberized or at least stipled grip on it. I agree with ya, it's just too smooth.
You could put the heatshrink rubber grips on it that are used on bike handles.
Yeah, ive heard the LTT is super smooth, and i GUESS that is comparable to the Snap-on ratchets (best ratchets ive used so far), but i generally use my snap on ratchet for engine work or area where i have short ratcheting space, and that how i can justify my snap on ratchets. I dont really see a situation that would be similar in the small electronics world (i also repair some smaller electronics at work)
I would on;y use non-ratcheting drivers before, but bought one out of curiosity, now its my daily driver. I recently bought the 'stubby' for when I'm traveling (the regular one would be confiscated on flights for being too long) and its damn good too. Some odd choices bit wise, I'd never come across the robertson type bits before. Seems utterly stupid when we already have cross and torx bits IMO, but I'm guessing its very common in Canada.
Nice job testing the LTT driver for its intended purpose rather than what most other reviewers seem to do while driving in wood screws and complaining about the 'slick' grip. A grip I prefer as ALL the rubber coated screwdrivers I've used eventually peel or degrade to a sticky mess. Some subtle surface detail might be nice though, for a bit of added friction on the handle. And yes, the LTT ratchet is by far the nicest out there, and added points for working the correct way instead of moving the switch OPPOSITE the way you want to screw.
Yeah, LTT is Canadian and Robertson bits are common there. There are more of them than you might think in the US too, but I would probably have preferred a couple more hex sizes instead.
I think the way you switch it, that it's opposite from anything else is not a good feature. For a normal ratcheting screwdriver you just hold the ring and twist the actual handle in the direction you want it to go, for example during the first turn, so you don't even have to do an extra step of setting the direction, you just do it as you go, while on LTT screwdriver you always have to set it explicitly, as an extra action. It's a classic case of someone designing a tool without understanding it.
But i also don't think a ratchering driver is good for PC building.