Hobie 16 beach crash 40 knots

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  • čas přidán 21. 01. 2017
  • Sailing a hobie 16 on to the beach in 40 knots
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  • @davemarch1811
    @davemarch1811 Před rokem +538

    15 knots , 20 tops

    • @Errol.C-nz
      @Errol.C-nz Před 9 měsíci +4

      15

    • @williamlesko4546
      @williamlesko4546 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Thats exactly what I was thinking...

    • @Errol.C-nz
      @Errol.C-nz Před 8 měsíci

      @@williamlesko4546 white caps form at 15kn.. everywhere on the globe

    • @TheKaledonianz
      @TheKaledonianz Před 7 měsíci +17

      More like 10 knots, 12mph. And hardly a "crash"!

    • @windywest
      @windywest Před 7 měsíci +7

      gusting 15 lol

  • @ernietetrault3403
    @ernietetrault3403 Před 2 měsíci +79

    As a former Hobie 16 sailor/racer/dealer, this is NOT a crash. It's called "beaching", although the approach was a bit fast.

    • @nos9510
      @nos9510 Před měsícem

      A "bit" fast :'D ? well at least he wont have to pull it up that incline hahaha

    • @Lukksia
      @Lukksia Před 29 dny

      doesn't that hurt the rudders?

    • @nos9510
      @nos9510 Před 29 dny +1

      @@Lukksia no no, they removed the pin beforehand, they simply lift up. It looks rough but it's perfectly fine for this vessel!

    • @Vvilams
      @Vvilams Před 26 dny +1

      ​@@LukksiaI don't remember how they are setup on a 16 but on the Hobie 18 there is a spring-loaded cam so when the rudder hits something it just kicks up. If you're out of the water you just lift up on the tiller and push it back into position and you're back to sailing again.

    • @ajsandro
      @ajsandro Před 17 dny

      @@Lukksiaskipper does loose the knot on the line that holds the rudders down on the water. So, the answer to your question is no.

  • @knpstrr
    @knpstrr Před 2 lety +287

    Used boat for sale, some minor scratches and scuffs.

  • @pastrami00
    @pastrami00 Před rokem +338

    "It's cool. My dad will buy me another one."

    • @user-mc4rm8ot8x
      @user-mc4rm8ot8x Před 4 měsíci +10

      Probably his dad's boat anyway😂

    • @KeepItSimpleSailor
      @KeepItSimpleSailor Před 3 měsíci +4

      It’s fine. Look at the hull shape and kick-up rudders.

    • @Cdon123
      @Cdon123 Před 2 měsíci

      At all my reggatas, they are like that

    • @charlessavage400
      @charlessavage400 Před 2 měsíci +1

      You never behaved like that as a kid? Come on now, pretty sure we all did. Whether or not we got caught 😂

    • @timseytiger9280
      @timseytiger9280 Před měsícem +3

      It's sand and sea weed as well, they had the rudders up before contact.

  • @ewantheboat
    @ewantheboat Před 3 lety +284

    Damn bro you better be good at gelcoat repair

    • @coryturner9140
      @coryturner9140 Před rokem +19

      I doubt there’s much gel coat left on a 50 year old hobie lol

    • @kimberly1567
      @kimberly1567 Před 2 měsíci

      It's Dad's boat

  • @Admiralofthedeeps
    @Admiralofthedeeps Před 5 měsíci +77

    Man, people are ramming boats onto beaches and sinking them every day, and here's me who would treat a boat so well but can't afford one 😢

    • @Fish-pi8lv
      @Fish-pi8lv Před 3 měsíci +1

      Do you have your license?

    • @Admiralofthedeeps
      @Admiralofthedeeps Před 3 měsíci +2

      @Fish-pi8lv I've a skipper course booked so that I can get it. Why?

    • @Fish-pi8lv
      @Fish-pi8lv Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@Admiralofthedeeps I was just wondering. You can get some boats for free, you just need to do work on them. I have seen a lot of free boats and jet skis in my area

    • @Lazarus-aap
      @Lazarus-aap Před 3 měsíci +6

      I agree. If you're handy (which you probably are if you want to take care of a boat) and you're willing to put in the work, you should be able to find one very cheap or even for free indeed. I hope you find one. You sound like you deserve one

    • @Pro052du973
      @Pro052du973 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@Fish-pi8lv I wish there were Free boats in my area too :) (Tho unlike original poster I dont have boat licence yet, but its in my plans, just need to try and see with someone owning a boat, if am seasick LMAOOO)

  • @PTXclusive
    @PTXclusive Před rokem +117

    40 knots 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @jerrylojka4082
    @jerrylojka4082 Před rokem +62

    Pretty funny if you don't have to pay for it.

    • @tjitjo
      @tjitjo Před 2 měsíci

      everything doesnt break right away pewssy boy

  • @ianb9028
    @ianb9028 Před 6 měsíci +28

    The only way a Hobie can do 40 knots is if it is being towed behind a speedboat.

    • @jordanzyla3377
      @jordanzyla3377 Před 2 měsíci +1

      40 knot wind

    • @ianb9028
      @ianb9028 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@jordanzyla3377 not even close 10 to 15 at most.

    • @jonpotter1632
      @jonpotter1632 Před 2 měsíci

      @@jordanzyla3377highest speed I could find someone running a hobie cat at was 30 knots. Imo they tend to get a bit hairy even around the high teen to low twenty mark.

    • @leecowell8165
      @leecowell8165 Před 2 měsíci

      I used to TOW a skier with mine! Yeah.. what you need is WIND to do that though. AND you need to know wtf you're doing, of course.

    • @guyleffel5674
      @guyleffel5674 Před 9 dny

      Or being towed behind an AC64

  • @hikeyourownhike3267
    @hikeyourownhike3267 Před 6 měsíci +10

    This guy had no idea what 40 knots is. Clickbait or a liar.

  • @bwhip
    @bwhip Před 6 lety +131

    Sail it like it's stolen.

  • @robertnorvell1580
    @robertnorvell1580 Před 4 lety +81

    Poor hobie!

  • @sailingliberator3395
    @sailingliberator3395 Před 10 měsíci +28

    Beauty of a Hobie. Can be beached as long as it's sandy

  • @andrewbooth1420
    @andrewbooth1420 Před rokem +92

    40 knots, they would have made it to the motor way.

    • @samroyal6288
      @samroyal6288 Před rokem +1

      the wind...

    • @guhmeel
      @guhmeel Před 7 měsíci +7

      @@samroyal6288 You apparently never sailed in 40knts. This hobie would be on its side in 2 seconds.

    • @BBJ598
      @BBJ598 Před 7 měsíci

      😆😆😆

    • @jimmymurphy7789
      @jimmymurphy7789 Před 2 měsíci

      More Like say 20 Knots ?

  • @damonlinkous
    @damonlinkous Před 7 lety +37

    and hands the keys to the valet.

  • @RenoLaringo
    @RenoLaringo Před 9 měsíci +48

    That idiotic laughter at the end says it all... 🙄

    • @tjitjo
      @tjitjo Před 2 měsíci

      they're kids though so maybe chill your tits

  • @alshalateeni6133
    @alshalateeni6133 Před rokem +66

    no respect for sailing, what a shame, poor cat.

    • @chicken69tenders
      @chicken69tenders Před 3 měsíci

      hobies are kinda meant for this would have been a smooth beaching if the grass wasnt there

    • @tjitjo
      @tjitjo Před 2 měsíci +2

      uUurdRhhru rEspeCt foR sAiLing maybe let people decide what they do with their own stuff also they're kids, everything is an experiment. and looks like they didnt even break it sooo. how about you let yourself be more free instead of stifling others

    • @ernestosaavedra922
      @ernestosaavedra922 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@tjitjoshut up probably you won’t even sail, I sail in Laser and the material is so expensive bro, instead they should teach the teens how to protect and take care of their things and not breaking everything

    • @Past10Performance
      @Past10Performance Před měsícem +2

      This is litterally what these are designed for. It's called beaching.

    • @Kitiwake
      @Kitiwake Před měsícem

      ​@@tjitjo no no mate.
      There is a thing called scandal.

  • @mattbright8635
    @mattbright8635 Před rokem +10

    That wasn’t a crash, that was just running it up the shore. Do a cartwheel next time so we have something to really laugh about!!!

  • @peterklein1845
    @peterklein1845 Před 6 měsíci +4

    the speed for beaching was approximately 12 knots

  • @markrenton5791
    @markrenton5791 Před rokem +12

    40knots my ass

  • @Hydr0flask
    @Hydr0flask Před 7 lety +17

    well that looks like Sarasota Florida next to the sailing squadron. That beach will tear your hulls up

    • @fish_liftn_drive5408
      @fish_liftn_drive5408 Před rokem +1

      Definitely is, I didnthe sailing squadron there

    • @jeffreydillon
      @jeffreydillon Před rokem +2

      Yeah it will. That's not smooth Siesta sand there.

    • @__________7483
      @__________7483 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Hey, Floridian here. I can confirm that this is Sarasota and just south of the SYS boat yard.

  • @billm929
    @billm929 Před rokem +25

    Not a crash, that's a beaching. And no Hobie of this design has ever done 40 knots

    • @jonmonti9101
      @jonmonti9101 Před 9 měsíci +3

      I got mine up to 68 once on the interstate

    • @johnkilty5091
      @johnkilty5091 Před 9 měsíci

      20 knots maybe. 40 no!

    • @sailorstu
      @sailorstu Před 9 měsíci +1

      ​@@jonmonti9101
      My Ericson 25 monohull hit 55 at least once, again on a trailer 😊

    • @verbatim1144
      @verbatim1144 Před 7 měsíci +1

      40kts... Only in freefall at terminal velocity.. 😵‍💫

    • @sailorstu
      @sailorstu Před 7 měsíci

      @@verbatim1144 isn't that what happens when you sail too far dropping off the end of the world 🤔🤣

  • @anthonymiller7992
    @anthonymiller7992 Před 8 měsíci +5

    When you have money to
    " sale away "
    😂😂

  • @lajosfidy3785
    @lajosfidy3785 Před 10 měsíci +3

    nothing in this video is traveling at 40 knots. Neither the wind and nor the cat.

  • @Givemeliberty30
    @Givemeliberty30 Před 10 měsíci +38

    My dad used to do this with his Hobie 16 going through the surf and Landing it on the beach. These boats were made for this and it's not a big deal to add a sacrificial layer of fiberglass on the bottom when needed.

    • @samiamgreeneggsandham7587
      @samiamgreeneggsandham7587 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Uh, no.

    • @declansb641
      @declansb641 Před 8 měsíci +8

      finally a real hobie sailor here, legit the original magazine adverts had them beached

    • @Givemeliberty30
      @Givemeliberty30 Před 8 měsíci +5

      @@declansb641 yeah I grew up on hobie's and prindle's. In my twenties I bought a nacra 5.8. The Jersey Shore was my home and I'm sure there aren't too many better places to grow up.

    • @OntarioBearHunter
      @OntarioBearHunter Před 6 měsíci +6

      Yeah..people acting like these are 5 Million dollar photo princesses.. these are meant to be used hard, reglassed every few years and left out all year. These and CL16s were our go to boats as kids.

    • @luizneto6660
      @luizneto6660 Před 6 měsíci

      And the reast of boat…? Not damaged? Just another fool

  • @robingraham6820
    @robingraham6820 Před 9 měsíci +3

    40 knots? In yer dreams!

  • @elitemicrobe4087
    @elitemicrobe4087 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Don’t be gentle it’s a rental

  • @trippsmclovin
    @trippsmclovin Před měsícem +1

    Literally what a hobies meant for ❤❤ had an 18' as a Kid in the Indian and banana river. Flipped it many times and pulled up onto a firepit before. She was built to last. New owners sent me pics of them nearly doing the same a few years after i sold her. Miss that thing cant wait to get one for my son and teach him to sail like mine did.

  • @zellmer34234
    @zellmer34234 Před 7 měsíci +4

    I know later that year the boat split in two. It was an older boat the had bought for next to nothing.the hulls were soft to say the least. What will it take ...

  • @nicholasstathos1387
    @nicholasstathos1387 Před rokem +8

    only thing going 40 in this video was the cars on the bridge

  • @matiasgibbs251
    @matiasgibbs251 Před 11 měsíci +5

    go mental with the rental

    • @user-mc4rm8ot8x
      @user-mc4rm8ot8x Před 4 měsíci

      I had a rental one in Oz.. the mast wasn't put on properly, I knew it was didgy, it wasn't of my doing.. theybhad to bring me back before I drifted out to sea. I thought thier rigging wasn't properly done I should have got my money back. I'm a hard sailor..I like to go fast and work the cat to its fullest I guess they wetentbr3ady for a real sailor...most aren't very good that hire the cats..lol...immconfident I'm an excellent sailor, I've never capsized in all my sailing years, I tried on purpose sometimes but I chicken out because I don't want to end up in the cold water lol...

    • @user-mc4rm8ot8x
      @user-mc4rm8ot8x Před 4 měsíci

      My friend I met he rented cats at a local beach...he said the first time inwent out on one, he was amazed how fast I just took off from shore most people get stich trying most d9nt sail well..lots claim they can sail..bs he has to go out smd bring them in and here comes me that just whips out and zooming up and down the bay on one hull etc...

    • @user-mc4rm8ot8x
      @user-mc4rm8ot8x Před 4 měsíci

      Once I offered to take a cat out(free cat hire lol)to go out and help someone sail back to shore thst wete going further and further away with the wind, I'd save him diesel from taking the dingy runner..rescue boat..I basically was teaching them hoe to sail back to shore..it took ages Vos we had to tack all the way back in..theybwete also slowly drifting towards the rocks at one point.

  • @captmack007
    @captmack007 Před měsícem +2

    Thats what Hobie cats wer designed for. They're beach cats!

  • @davidhakes3884
    @davidhakes3884 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Somebody rang the dinner bell or beer bell

  • @learigg
    @learigg Před 7 měsíci +2

    The skippers called rick with a silent P.

  • @kragf1802
    @kragf1802 Před 11 měsíci +2

    I bet he wouldn’t be laughing if he had bought it.

  • @CJSHM
    @CJSHM Před 10 měsíci +2

    That wasnt a crash that was a beuatiful landing

  • @yd8104
    @yd8104 Před rokem +14

    Hobbie 16 are beach catamarans, they are made to land on the sand

    • @ryanfulton3662
      @ryanfulton3662 Před rokem +4

      Not at that speed😂

    • @M3rlin257
      @M3rlin257 Před rokem +6

      Yeah like the previous person said. Not at that speed That's also not a soft sand where they are. The fact that they don't have any of their sheets loose is just so stupid. Convinced they don't know how to sail

    • @ryanfulton3662
      @ryanfulton3662 Před 11 měsíci

      @@M3rlin257 what I would say if I wasn’t to lazy to write all that

    • @samiamgreeneggsandham7587
      @samiamgreeneggsandham7587 Před 8 měsíci +3

      That’s like watching a 747 make a wheels up landing, and then saying “hey, no problem! It was made to land on a runway.”

    • @voornaam3191
      @voornaam3191 Před 7 měsíci

      These dudes make it to their hotel next to the beach. This is rude.

  • @Seamus322
    @Seamus322 Před 11 měsíci +3

    A real Hobie sailor would have run it up on his Cat Trax as he hit the shore line ;-)

  • @brighambaker3381
    @brighambaker3381 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Must be a rental 😬

  • @robertway5756
    @robertway5756 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Pretty hard on the rig.

  • @lindamccool4293
    @lindamccool4293 Před měsícem +1

    I been there! Scary but what great memories were made!

  • @michaelmartin9022
    @michaelmartin9022 Před měsícem

    "Took a corner too fast, ran her into the gravel"
    "You drive racing cars?"
    "No, I sail"

  • @user-eo6xe7my4x
    @user-eo6xe7my4x Před rokem +3

    pfrt... 40 knots yeah right..

  • @waterworldtrimaran544
    @waterworldtrimaran544 Před 8 měsíci +1

    No hobie cat has ever come close to 30 knots

  • @jeremykrzesiak6858
    @jeremykrzesiak6858 Před 8 měsíci +2

    YOU CAN'T PARK THERE MATE!!!

  • @Irishherbs
    @Irishherbs Před měsícem +2

    Special Olympics by the look of it..

  • @TreDeuce-qw3kv
    @TreDeuce-qw3kv Před 2 měsíci +1

    I did this coming onto a little island in a reservoir in central Oregon and the mast broke at the base. It was late in the day and in the 70's way before cell phones so I had no way to tell my party the situation. I scrounged around the little island and found old boards and barbed wire and re-rigged the mast and gently sailed back at night to my camp just in time to stop a friend from driving into town to notify the sheriff.

  • @michaelbrady9056
    @michaelbrady9056 Před rokem +2

    Very cool, yet bad, yet cool idea. Especially so since they got away with it. Not remotely close to 40 knots of speed.

  • @TheMrlayers
    @TheMrlayers Před 4 měsíci +2

    Pretty sure they beached it intentionally and no way they are anywhere near 40knots 😂

  • @pkpwnerful
    @pkpwnerful Před 10 měsíci +2

    Atleast let go of the sheets so you don’t capsize on fkin land

  • @clsherian
    @clsherian Před rokem +2

    Hobie 16’s are the best!

  • @mawfish1
    @mawfish1 Před 8 měsíci +2

    40 knots in what? The mainsheet?

  • @EamonnSeoigh
    @EamonnSeoigh Před 26 dny

    I’d never treat my own boat that way. So, I hope the company that rented this out see this video.

  • @muppetbrother
    @muppetbrother Před rokem +4

    used boat sale. one careful owner

  • @AdventuresInReach
    @AdventuresInReach Před 6 měsíci +1

    Wow. We beach ours all the time filming videos when camping via our Hobie 16's, but only on soft sand and only a few feet up. It does look fun, but it may lead to less fun later when it starts leaking, goes slower, or is unusable.

  • @delavan9141
    @delavan9141 Před měsícem

    Totally deliberate. You can see the guy at the back holding the sail rope taught to keep the sail perpendicular to the wind.

  • @Heatersandfridges
    @Heatersandfridges Před 5 měsíci +1

    A hobie 16 could only possibly do 40 knots if it was dropped from a plane. Plus it wasn’t a crash. It was just beaching intentionally.

  • @SeaShanty2016
    @SeaShanty2016 Před měsícem +1

    Definitely not anywhere near 20knots. They are sailing relatively close hauled given the position of the main and jib, but hardly heeling. My guess is at the most 15knots.

  • @PatNetherlander
    @PatNetherlander Před 4 měsíci

    That’s a normal Hobie16 beaching if ever I saw one. And Ive seen a lot of them and even made a few myself. Never dared doing that on my Nacra 6.0spi tho.… hah sweet memories of my youth…

  • @GlobetruthFU
    @GlobetruthFU Před 4 měsíci +1

    When Daddy has plenty of money.

  • @johnmartin3735
    @johnmartin3735 Před 6 měsíci +1

    There goes your credit card n credit score

  • @ebisu8824
    @ebisu8824 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I missed the "crash" bit.

  • @U20E27
    @U20E27 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Lol yeah 12-15 knots not 40. Lots of old timer J24 racers have stories of running j/24’s up the beach in Florida after the fleet gets hammered by a thunderstorm

  • @trondwell13
    @trondwell13 Před měsícem +1

    All of 5 knots

  • @lovejetfuel4071
    @lovejetfuel4071 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Thats not 40K knots

  • @Mike9001000
    @Mike9001000 Před 9 měsíci +2

    That’s nothing like 40 knots

  • @saltwater52
    @saltwater52 Před měsícem

    No white caps. 40 knots you will have white caps. The beaching was intentional it's frequently done because it's easier to get your boat on the beach than it is to drag it on the beach

  • @chrismaroud8484
    @chrismaroud8484 Před 10 měsíci +1

    "40 knots"...

  • @TopWaterTV69
    @TopWaterTV69 Před měsícem

    If that was my laugh, I’d be keeping it on the low.

  • @Felixvejimdocom
    @Felixvejimdocom Před měsícem

    What 40 knots? I jused to work landing this way teaching… it was pure sand though!
    Gj guys

  • @TheJosephayal
    @TheJosephayal Před 10 měsíci +1

    you'd been Pantied

  • @53blfoster
    @53blfoster Před 5 měsíci +1

    Destruction derby, hobie style

  • @MikeTarifaArtist
    @MikeTarifaArtist Před 8 měsíci +1

    i suggest wheels!

  • @Dominic19260
    @Dominic19260 Před 6 měsíci

    That’s one way to get a kayak out LOL

  • @sergioschannel
    @sergioschannel Před 10 měsíci +1

    40 knots….

  • @CLOCKCHASER2222
    @CLOCKCHASER2222 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Nearly made it to the trailer in the car park

  • @delahayenator
    @delahayenator Před 8 měsíci +1

    Haha 40 knots on a Hobie16, impossible

  • @j_g123
    @j_g123 Před 19 hodinami

    40kts this boat would be airborne

  • @1212354a
    @1212354a Před 3 dny

    Great landing!

  • @annteve
    @annteve Před 4 měsíci

    Not a crash. It’s what the Hobie Cat was designed for.

  • @sailinglongwinded7329
    @sailinglongwinded7329 Před 9 měsíci +2

    All the people in these comments upset over young men doing what young men do .... testing the limits. I don't see this as abusing the boat or some sort of disrespect, just young men being young men. The boat will be fine. Now they have a story to tell for years, "Hey Bobby, remember when we beached the Hobbie?"

  • @sailingspark9748
    @sailingspark9748 Před 9 měsíci

    They do that all the time at the Jersey Shore. Granted, our beaches are smooth with soft sand. Coming through the breakers is always fun. Break through them going out and surfing them coming in.

  • @truthtrooper9985
    @truthtrooper9985 Před 27 dny

    Not a crash folks, it’s common practice

  • @martymodus7205
    @martymodus7205 Před 6 měsíci

    Sure, I still do this with my Hobie18 *on sandy beaches*. When a beach is this hard it's stupid to do, unless you really enjoy the fiberglass work and injecting epoxy to fix the delamination that's exacerbated from this hard of a hit. Drill a bunch of holes in your hull for that kind of repair and you'll be more careful not to abuse your boat in the future (speaking from experience).

    • @zedthehun
      @zedthehun Před 5 měsíci

      The bottom of a 16 is WAY stronger than an 18, they are built to beach from the surf. We did it all the time.

  • @fixento
    @fixento Před měsícem

    I've sailed Hobie 16s, top speed is 24 knots, not 40 and that is a lie. They also had a tendency to pitch pole when the lee pontoons decide to dive. Instead these toddlers beaching the Hobie they slammed on beach.

  • @afitlife
    @afitlife Před měsícem

    Not a crash but how we use to do it 💪🏻

  • @JacuBarnez420
    @JacuBarnez420 Před 26 dny

    Like a glove!

  • @AWildBard
    @AWildBard Před 17 dny

    That's not a crash, it's a landing. Which is what they planned to do.

  • @gerhardusvanderpoll
    @gerhardusvanderpoll Před 7 měsíci +1

    Not a crash at all...a deliberate beaching run....very common.....but the word "crash" is purposefully used as click bait...

  • @deryckedie
    @deryckedie Před 5 měsíci

    Be grateful that those boats don't have dagger boards...

  • @bradrainier106
    @bradrainier106 Před měsícem

    Great memories ⛵️

  • @the-naked-sailor
    @the-naked-sailor Před 7 měsíci

    That wasn't a crash, he meant it. Confident sailor.

  • @ryannance9673
    @ryannance9673 Před 5 měsíci

    "Like ah glove"

  • @kentstone319
    @kentstone319 Před měsícem

    Pitchpoles are kinda fun. But
    That was sad way to have fun hurting a boat.

  • @rutaslatitudnorte9531
    @rutaslatitudnorte9531 Před 10 měsíci +1

    You don't deserve that sailboat

  • @3-9-6
    @3-9-6 Před 8 měsíci +1

    thats my kind of stupid.

  • @kevinjones-ch7pr
    @kevinjones-ch7pr Před 9 měsíci +1

    That's never forty knots 😂

  • @user-kb4ws5pj7g
    @user-kb4ws5pj7g Před měsícem

    not a crash. Letting out the main sheet is a panic reaction. They left her trimmed in the whole time.

  • @What_did_u_say
    @What_did_u_say Před měsícem

    Looks like they stuck the landing!

  • @AndyKopac
    @AndyKopac Před 10 měsíci +1

    Kinda hard on da boat….