Are wood-burning stoves eco-friendly?
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- čas přidán 9. 06. 2024
- Patricia Thornley, Professor of sustainable energy systems, discusses the environmental impact of wood-burning stoves.
Read more about the impact of wood stove and biomass emissions in this blog from Policy@Manchester here: blog.policy.manchester.ac.uk/p...
Ella Kissi-Debra’s case brought me here asking questions about air pollution in general. I don’t think it’s just rural areas with fuel poverty. I can’t sleep with the window open in winter due to the air quality where I live.
Open fires with coal and wood worse than log burners. There are several log burners in my street and I sleep with window open, don’t smell any of them
@@SL-sd3sg You may notice them less but woodburners are nasty because you can't see the smoke and this is why people have been tricked into thinking they're OK. The microscopic particulates are what damage the lung tissue and from research I've read children are more at risk.
thank you for sharing !!!!
Very balanced hypothesis
So basically , professor, you're not sure about this but I'm tempted to think that you probably have a woodburner at home.
This is the frontier of science we are still learning. Don't expect science to have all the answers.
@@Zane-It They know all about the toxins from woodburners.
Mark Twain said 'the American woodfire is a terror'. It's amazing you don't discuss the type of wood heaters... Masonry heaters like a Finnish style contraflow have very clean burns compared to metal box fires / slow combustion heaters (SCH). There only disadvantage is they're more expensive... But it's money spent in the local economy. If you factor in the negatives of SCHs: air pollution, excessive wood use, chimney fires, etc a masonry heater will more than pay for itself over its much longer life.
Look at all the real data / actual research the MHA has done...
Build a nuclear power plant, and then everyone gets electricity for low emissions. Done.
We’re talking about heating lol
It depend how you burn it
Every morning when I get up my hallway stinks of smoke. If I go out in my back garden I am immediately hit by fumes from the surrounding woodburners. There is evidence from research at Oxford University that demonstrates the dangerous levels of particulates or particles that are small enough to enter and damage your lungs. Children are particularly in danger from this kind of pollution as their lungs develop so that their future could well be one of respiratory diseases.Adults of course are at risk too.
As far as the comparison to volcanoes goes I don't think anyone would choose to live next to an active volcano but one has no choice if all your neighbours install woodburners.
Then your home is not insulated from draughts properly. The forestry commission gives woodburners the green light as it is a "sustainable eco- friendly source of fuel" . Ok, So ? are they full of BS or are they talking sense.? Trees grow, absorb carbon ,get too old to do so and get cut down burned and that carbon gets absorbed by younger saps . Man has been keeping warm from fire since cavemen discovered it many millenia ago. Alternatives? using fossil fuel gas for boilers that spew out deadly gasses. Maybe upgrade the grid with nuclear stations so we can have electric fires ?, Lets face it turbines ARE great BUT they wont produce ENOUGH for our greedy way of life. I am using the fire that came with the house new 100 years ago and I cannot afford to have my heating "upgraded" (vandalised) to meet some government target, so, are the government going to give me a grant to cover a full house heating conversion ? .I think not ! Its a ruse by the GOVT to get more people on the gas network to pay more tax on fuel and you lot are falling for it . Smokers cause pollution and dont have the cigarrettes banned, why? TAX. Gas boilers spew out allsorts of crap why are they not banned ? TAX on fuel.. Woodburners BAN BAN BAN ..why? because wood is free and the government cant TAX them....its all about MONEY people ...wake up and smell the coffee on the campfire.
gpo746 100% true TAX TAX TAX BLA BLA BLA , I have to breath second hand cigarette smoke at every supermarket doorway , why haven't they banned cigarettes?
@@ineeddollars no you dont "have" to... just stop breathing!
@@gpo746 yes true...its all about giving us bullshit and saying EV cars are so great...do the maths, they are NOT, the electricity is produced by COAL as not enough NUC plants. And onto heating.....it is ALL bad in reality...Oil, Gas, wood, coal.... I have a pellet stove and now they say the emissions i.e fine dust if heated by the sun will make carbon dioxide. You cannot win.....but hey COST is the big factor and if we cannot keep ourselves warm for a reasonable cost...we die
Thank you. Someone in my neighborhood was doing a few fire pits this summer. The smell will come in my open bedroom window and make my bedroom smell like smoke. Crazy stuff.
There's a lot of inaccuracies in this video. Firstly there is no safe level of PM2.5. All the science says that. For this video to claim that it's okay if you live rurally is inaccurate. I have to move away from where I live in the months from october - february because I struggle to breathe. I live in a rural village where everyone is burning wood all day (because they work from home) and well into the night, even though all of them have gas central heating. Add temperature inversions and heavy fog into the mix and the air becomes thick and toxic all day and night. It's completely unacceptable. We all have the right to clean air and other people should not be violating our right to breathe by selfishly burning wood when there are alternatives.
? Burning trees is ok ?
Old ones die...the wind blows them over....waste wood in industry....and forrests must be managed or they get out of control, like a garden does.... Yes it is Ok
@Hardware John that is very good.
What's next, scout campfires???
No they are not. Poluution.
Yes they are
Alister West No there not your gas heating is an invisible polluter ,
Change every car to electric and don’t use rubber tyres, then I won’t light mine occasionally.
Get a horse.
i have a log burner on during all the time during the winter its brand new and has an effecient eco secondary burn system and i only have kiln fired oak and high quality low ash smokeless coal in my log burner only an idiot burns wet un seasoned wood and only an asshole burns house hold coal
The co2 produced by a woodburning stove is removed by the plants and trees using it in the photosynthesis process, which converts the co2 into oxygen and water!
This is basic scientific knowledge, we have known for years. Like the fact that the wood cut from a coppiced woodland, also helps the environment due to the new growth promoted to the woodland by using this method!
You simply cut down one hardwood tree, but trigger multiple new saplings to grow!
This is about airborne pollution increase vs CO2 reduction. Whilst what you said is true, its completely not the point here. Good effortlessly though, thanks for coming...
I just fired up my stove. Chugging loads of smoke right up into the ozone, I think I can see a hole forming. Maybe you should also advise the volcanoes not to erupt, I'm sure they don't pollute as much as wood burning stoves.
Jump on it should be very warming for you🤣
Volcanoes burn magma much hotter than our wood stoves. So volcanoes are able to burn off most of their particulates, but the smoke we see is a combination of debris, liquid vapors, etc. Keep in mind though- once upon a time volcanoes and men living off the land made up a fraction of all the pollution going up in the air. Now we have about 8 billion people in the world, compared to 3 billion in 1960. Everywhere you look it’s easy to find a smoking exhaust pipe. We’re about to study algae farming on our land and how we can use algae tanks to turn wood stove exhaust back into breathable oxygen after it is burnt into carbon dioxide. As long as we can stop burning plastic, aluminum, and trash- we can hopefully keep our neighbors from getting really sick. The earth has given us a lot of resources to reverse our climate impact.
Geekers 82 and you use what to heat your house , ?
Ignorance is bliss but it doesn't change the air quality or lack of it.
@@bertaga41 think back to Iraq when sadham Husain set fire 🔥 to all them oil wells 🤔
Burning Coal is Carbon neutral as the Coal was formed from living things which got the carbon from the air !
GET A WOOD PELLET STOVE with A++ Energy rating.....Less emissions V wood burners or coal....
Wood pellets transported in a ship over the Atlantic. How much diesel does that use.
@@vodaredhill1704 no idea where you live? In uk they are produced in SCOTLAND.
@@thomashumber9762 Not all of them.
@@vodaredhill1704 All EU produced pellet stoves are no less than A plus rated!
@@robinpelletstovesuk9194 Yes and I like them but transporting the pellets vast distances uses a lot of energy.
no-one will ever stop me lighting my open fire, & you don,t want any logs to be to dry, cos they don,t last 5 min,s, but i mainly burn normal coal, around 3 ton of it during winter
no consideration taken that wood obsorbs pollution when growing.
And then the wood that's absorbed that pollution is burnt and floats around in a concentrated mass on you and your neighbours.
@@bertaga41 EXACTLY. WOOD FIRE HEATERS NEED TO BE BANNED. HERE, THEY ARE ONLY FAZING THEM OUT BY MAKING PPL THAT HAVE NEW HOUSES, CANT HAVE A CHIMNEY. IF YOU BUY A HOUSE IN A NEW AREA WHERE THERE ARE NEWER HOUSES, THERE WILL BE NO WOOD FIRE HEATERS. I WANT TO LIVE LONG ENOUGH TO SEE THE DAY COME WHEN WOOD FIRE HEATERS ARE BANED EVERYWHERE. IVE SUFFERED LONG ENOUGH FROM THE FILTHY SMOKE THEY SEND INTO MY HOME AND I ALREADY MOVED ONCE FROM A FILTHY SMOKEY POLLUTED AREA.
@@zennabella1676 Yes, but with what do you replace it with? There are no other alternatives that are cheap and abundant as wood. You can't expect everyone to pay high bills for heating. Wood is burned by nature all the time with forest fires, and wood has been used for hundreds of thousands of years (it's the best solution for heating). You can't expect it all to stop just become you want it, that's called fascism. We all agree that there are problems when it comes to pollution but there can also be solutions. Better stoves, advanced chimnies, and even a mechanism on the chimney to absorb the smoke and store it, that can be cleaned later on.
@@zennabella1676 FYI Drax power plant is now 100% imported wood pellets....lol 3GW capacity too
8 billion people on the planet.....half of Asia and south america is smoldering and your "concerned" about wood burners?
Phuq off......
Lets start with the root of the problem shall we........STOP BREEDING.
Population is not the problem either. They just want to sell that to you. Actually the real problem are the governments just no good for anything except fleecing us.
Yep far too many people in the world in the last 50 years or so the worlds population has trebled that's the problem
Obviously wood stoves are not eco-friendly but honestly no one gives a fuck. I don't give a fuck about it either.