Reaction to Uruguay vs. Brazil 😬 'It's time to BANISH extra time!' - Steve McManaman | ESPN FC
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- Shaka Hislop, Steve Nicol, Steve McManaman and Herculez Gomez join Dan Thomas on ESPN FC to react to Uruguay's "ugly" 0-0 win vs. Brazil (4-2 on pens) in Copa America play and ponder whether it's time to scrap extra time.
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Can't be as bad as watching England play
No; it was worse
@@tcpgblizzardnothing is worse
I fell asleep watching England. This was better
Uruguay Brazil wasn’t football. It was just people rolling on the floor for 90+ mins.
England plays rubbish. Still I am able to watch a full match of England.
Endrick with one complete pass for 95 minutes is probably the craziest stat ever. Martinelli having less than 10 minutes is criminal.
why did in Gods green earth Martinelli not be in the starting 11?
@@user-rn9qm9mc7q I thought they'd take Endrick off at halftime, move Rodrygo to CF and bring Martinelli on. They didn't even make a sub till the very end of the match. I guess they thought they'd have the advantage in a shootout but that wasn't the case.
@@user-rn9qm9mc7q thats exactly what ive been asking myself
@S14N9LS He should have started from the beginning of the copa america, he had a great season
With Arsenal, and what happened to Antony?
@@user-rn9qm9mc7q He's my favorite player so I agree with you but his season at Arsenal wasn't as good as it could/should have been. He also got banged up at a training session for Brazil so maybe that's why he hasn't gotten more time. I'm not sure if Antony was even selected. I know Gabriel Jesus wasn't. I think they should have brought Jesus even if just as a backup but I guess he wasn't healthy either.
In hindsight Ronaldinho was on to something lol
A "little" detail for context: Brasil population is 215.3 million (2022), Uruguay population is: 3.4 million (2022). That means Uruguay has 1.57% the population of Brasil. Crazy!
For every Uruguayan footballer, Brasil has 63.
@@jjmarz1001Football is still 11 vs 11...
In the field, numbers dont matter, we are Spartans 🇺🇾
If a Brasilian isn't watching futbol, are they at Carnavale or learning jiu-jitsu?
@@machtnichtsseimannSurfing
He says: “It was like a derby.” Brazil vs. Uruguay IS actually a derby lol.
Yeah and this people are newsman? How stupid they are? lol Brazil vs Uruguay is one of the oldest derby’s in the world 🤦🏻♂️
I thought that was brazil vs argentina
@@rohithraman6488both are honestly. Brazil is still salty about Uruguay winning the world cup in Brazil in 1950
@@rohithraman6488 In south America Argentina vs Uruguay is the oldest derby in the world outside the british islands, then Brazil vs Uruguay, is the second oldest derby, and last one since Argentina till 1978 wasn't a big team started to be a derby with Brazil. Come one everybody who watch and loves football knows Brazil vs Uruguay is one of the oldes and biggest derbys/clasico in the world!
It was like a demolition derby lol not a football derby
When you don't know anything about the rivalry between Brazil and Uruguay, you do these nonse comments. Games in South America are super physical, even more between Brazil and Uruguay.
Agreed. They know nothing about it.
Right. But the point is that, when reaching that boundary, the game looks ugly, it turns into a disgusting show, and it is not entertainment any more! Just crossing the line of absurdity, putting the physical integrity of players at risk during 90 minutes and turning football into carnage, deprives football its nature of sport.
Everyone knows this 🥱
@@George-ej2te If you want entertainment then go to the movie theater. This is a sport, so it won't be always like you wish. Otherwise go yourself and play beautifully and let me know how it goes for you.
NO LIES DETECTED in your statement sir…Urgently have some dawgs, Brazil has skillful chihuahuas
Uruguay created a few more chances than Brazil, had higher amount of offensive actions per minute and higher expected goals than Brazil yet their analysis is that Uruguay was playing for the penalties, and mainly beacuse those last 15 minutes when Uruguay saw a red card and went deffensive. But i guess i'm asking too much from ESPN journalists.
EXACTLY, Uruguay could no longer impose their will once they went down a man.
you are telling lies, Brazil had more clear chances for goals and if there was extra time, Uruguay would lose.
@@gilfernando7623 I'm not lying, i'm literally watching the stats and data lol
@@gilfernando7623 Absolutely! And look at all the fouls Uruguay commited? 26! How many free kicks Brazil would get if those fouls were called out by the Referee. SMH.
Someone here made the point that past Brasil teams used their skill, confidence and determination to win games while disregarding the referee as a source of help or hindrance. Brasil needs to get this mentality back.
The whole of football needs to get this mentality.
Absolutely
Perez probably paid the Brazil coach to play Endrick 90 minutes to see if he's worth the hype lol
@@stylesraw🤓
Even with the worst Brazilian team ever they can't still not beat them in regular time.
Uruguay vs Colombia will be a game to watch
Yes. But i also feel canada will get revenge on argentina. But we will see.
@@ozoneA6umm
@@ozoneA6 Canada are not capable of scoring, they might be able to score a goal but Argentina is scoring at least 3 this time.
@@fatih8053 we will see. 👍🤧
Uruguay and Colombia will start brawling on the pitch.
Shaka is the only trini🇹🇹 out there who has not changed his accent. Fair play to you sir. 👏👍💯
Yup
Didn't turn British Yankee or Jamaican
He is a very lazy person
He has a very mild Geordie (newcastle uk) accent mixed in with his own accent. As a geordie I hear it well.
That is very true, he doesnt sound Trini at all @@tyciol9543
Why are you guys painting it as if brazilian players where not fouling, it wasnt just uruguay playing agressive
Classic south American match but clearly they only watch the Prem
Clearly they watch MLS and Mexican League
What has the PL got to do with this? You're reaching really hard rn
@@palemonhurtado8914 if thats south american football ya'll might as well start making rugby teamsss
I watch SA football. Know all about the rivalries, this game sucked.
you chose the most physical full contact league in Europe there
"It was like a Derby" It WAS a derby match...
As a casual follower of football and watching European vs South American football for decades, that Uruguay vs Brazil game was very common typical. CONMEBOL Very physical, very competitive, very emotional just like the domestic leagues down there! Boca vs River? Corinthians and Palmeiras? Your lucky to come out alive as a fan or a player
cool -just call rugby then not the beautiful game
they said that this was played like a derby, and that's because that is exactly what this game is...a derby, a clasico.When Brazil, Uruguay and Argentina play against each, you are rarely going see the famous "jogo bonito" or "futbol lindo"...you are gonna see war. The team that works the hardest in these games is usually the one who wins. Saying that Uruguay kicked all game is silly. Uruguay attacked the first 25 min non-stop and had Brazil playing in their own 18. Uruguay did foul but Brazil also took advantage of the high intensity bielsa-ball style to draw and fabricate fouls as well.
These guys did not watch the game, maybe the highlights at most.
It was Brazil that kicked Uruguay. Sth American media are all in agreement on that. The fact that Uruguay had more fouls is because when Brazil started it Uruguay finished it.
Every time De La Cruz got the ball he was fouled so then Uruguay decided to make it a fight.
Herc seemed to know this but decided to go along with the Europeans who just watched the highlights.
These guys are a scam.
I prefer watching this type of game with a lot of physicality rather than watching a team like England pass the ball around in their own half for 120 minutes.
I prefer Euros overall with the style of play but have to completely agree about the England games. Copa games are always physical so just have to come in knowing this beforehand.
@@yuriydeeEngland play the most boring football ever holy moly
Funny how right now no one mentions France. They’ve only scored a penalty so far! Their other 2 goals have been own goals. England have been awful, but at least there’s been some exciting moments in the games
I agree but skill should be number 1 but neither team could out skill the other so it came down to who can break the other player and play recklessly
Uruguay vs Brazil is a DERBY!!!!!!
An old fashion Derby
@@labestiagaming1335Go play you playstation then. Both countries have so much history and have won so much you could only dream about.
No the only derby is Argentina and Brazil not Uruguay
@@labestiagaming1335 seguí jugando al soccer en lindas canchas y viviendo del marketing que hacen de este juego que en Uruguay vamos por la copa. El día que lleguen al 10% de lo que ha ganado Uruguay hablamos, en USA sigan haciendo negocio del fútbol que con la pelota en los pies son unos perros.
@@bonitomasera8463 Que sabés vos payaso, el clásico más antiguo es Argentina vs Uruguay, mas de un siglo, en esa época Brasil no existia al fútbol luego se armaron los demás clasicos, ArgentinaVS Brasil, Brasil vs Uruguay. Calláte la boca que vos jugas al soccer y vivis del marketing que hacen de este juego PAYASO.
Do people not know that what Uruguay did IS literally the style they are known for???
Exactly. They are the team that takes winning by any means necessary to the max
English pundits are id1ots
Eh its not typical of what bielsa wants to do
The new uruguay doesnt typically play like classic old uruguay
So this was an outlier
The heavy metal when showing the Uruguay squad was a lovely choice
Just end football. What do you mean by end extra time? You want to end the beauty of football.
Oh the hypocrisy of ESPN, I don't remember hearing them say anything about the way Serbia hunted down Neymar and injured him in the 2022 world cup.
This is arguably the worst Brazil team we’ve ever seen and this isn’t the same team we witnessed when growing up. I’m actually happy that they’ve been eliminated from the Copa América because the way that they’re playing right now as a whole has been shocking to say the least. Ever since the start of 2023, their form has gone from bad to worse and no one is taking them seriously and they’re at risk of falling behind even further if they don’t get things together. As we speak, they’re 6th place in World Cup qualifiers and while it’s unlikely that it’ll ever happen, they’re at risk of missing the World Cup if their team doesn’t wake up as they’re losing games that they wouldn’t have lost before and they’ve drawn a lot of games that they would’ve won in the past and now they’ve had a terrible Copa América where they’ve been eliminated in the quarterfinals on penalties.
A lot of people were criticizing Ronaldinho for throwing his own country under the bus saying that their team is average they’re such a boring team to watch he’s had enough zero leadership whatsoever and he won’t support them or watch any of their games at the Copa América etc, he wasn’t wrong on what he said about the current state of the team prior to the tournament and even Ronaldo himself said that nowadays he prefers watching tennis over football and they’re basically having a dig at Brazil following their recent form. If you take away the 4 goals that they scored against Paraguay, they’ve only scored 1 goal throughout the tournament which was a free kick and for a team that’s supposed to be known for having attacking creativity and flair, they don’t score enough goals anymore and part of that is down to their dismal tactics they don’t have a proper goalscorer or a creative playmaker and remind me who their fullbacks are again combined with the manager’s poor tactics as they play more like individuals than an actual team playing with confidence at the moment. For a team of their standards regardless of who they have, it’s unacceptable to play this sort of football and there are more questions than answers about this team and the mess that they’re in are so bad to the point where they’re at risk of falling to qualify for the 2026 World Cup if they continue playing in this fashion.
Uruguay, for the time they have been together, also does not have good football. They beat the USA by stealing a goal. they could not beat Brasil who just started with a new coach for 90 minutes. Uruguay has no future in the next world cup either.
I completely disagree, having watched Brazil since 2010, this team at least has a heart. Brazil 2014-2016 was the worst I’ve ever seen. In 2014 world cup was the start of the fall. Drew against Mexico but got out of an easy group. Beat Chile in pens (lucky). Only beat columbia 2-1 by two set piece goals. Then played two real teams and got battered 7-1 and 3-0. brazil went out in QFinal in 2015 copa to Paraguay in pens. 2016 copa they did not even make it out of the group and only had one win against Haiti. So while this is not the best Brazil I’ve seen, it’s far from the worst and this team would not get battered by anyone.
Even with the worst Brazilian team ever they can't still not beat them in regular time.
Worst Brazil team ever, even worst than the 7-1 GERMANY spanking Brazil team
@@gw3485.i think Brazil has never yet recovered from that whipping
It was a perfect game displaying 130 years of southamerican bitter rivalry. You guys still think futbol is a game, or even worst: a show. That's why you still don't´get it, and i doubt you'll ever will.
And that's why they cannot win.
When fouling is your strategy, I have no interest.
@@JJ-nu8qi Brazil came out making fouls, and Uruguay would not get intimidated by that, so if you want to play tough, Uruguay will play tough then.
@@luisangelini2220 Part of my point.
@@JJ-nu8qibro, stop being a fan and become a hincha
Copa America matches are like this. Its old style winning football. If you ve been in south america you will understand. It is a fight.
It’s impossible to explain, they don’t feel it the same way… in fact they don’t even feel it…
@@SebaF79 😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂
And it’s why soccer will never become a huge sport in America. 0-0 draw with players rolling around on the grass the entire game.
@@jsnagra1able when you support a team that doesent matter.
Teams are too afraid to lose they're too afraid to make mistakes
I can tell you don’t know anything about the soccer history between Brazil and Uruguay. You should learn before start talking bs.
This Dan guy has no clue 🤣
How does Uruguay a nation with a population of 3.4 million people manage to compete consistently at a high world level in football (and decent in rugby)? How do they keep turning out star players when eg Scotland, Wales, Ireland struggle?
Xq niños de edades de 5 a 12 ya juegan competitivamente todos los años,aproximadamente de 60 a 70 mil niños en todo el país juegan se llama baby fútbol saludos
Because we born with a fútbol ball and we have hunger 🇺🇾
Cuz we don't study nor work
History
@@Soyeljesusdemarvel the coaching in uruaguy is much better than Ireland Scotland and Wales
The constant fouls really stopped the flow of the game and didn't allow any momentum. But it was still a classic match between two South American giants.
I don’t think we are watching the same game, Brazil started kicking first than Uruguay finished it
I've been repeating this over and over. It's like we have watched a different game.
Watching Endrick anticipate contact and starting diving before it happened was entertaining. That the ref didn't fall for it and continued play was awesome.
These espn guys didn’t watch the game. They have a narrative and that’s it. Uruguay bad.
This is how you win against Brazil by the way
You DON'T let them play
That's exactly what it was. A Derby (International Derby). And you don't know Brasil very well if you think they don't kick you. They kick with the best of them. Broken many legs over the years.
Uruguay were clearly worse than Brazil.
@@zeeqayum4834 Uruguay was better than Brazil, except for that brutal tackle by Nandez
how many legs? which players?
@@JJMB27 no they weren’t
@@zeeqayum4834 they were, they fouled much more efficiently.
I love extra time. Its not the same as scrapping a replay. Extra time is part of major international football. And has been for decades. Theyre taking away from the game if they end it. To argue nothing happens in extra time is nonsense. Some times nothing happens(thats football) but plenty of time its really exciting. Some of the most dramatic moments in football have happened in extra time. Why do the people in charge of football hate football so much? Stop messing with it!!
Exactly. Spain Germany was a thriller in OT. And Shaqiri almost bend in a corner kick vs England in OT. So many legendary football moments happened in OT. Iniesta and Goetze scoring WC winning goals, Zidane's headbutt, Martinez' save vs Kolo Muani, Rui Costa's long shot vs England and Lampard's equalizer, Geoff Hurst's legendary Wembley goal, Cech saving a pen vs Robben, etc. ... banishing OT would be one step further to ruining football completely.
I love the World Cup. The last World Cup was really good. Playing for your country and representing your country is like nothing else. Nothing can compare to that.
Nandes has the audacity to say he got the ball
@@danilofernandez1you are a stupid Uruguayan defending the pathetic reaction of Nandes to a 100% clear red card.
@@danilofernandez1 tan mk
Podes ser lo que sea y se ve que le fue al tobillo.. Mejor deja de vivir mentiras atolondrado
Sabes que, cuando colombia los saque..lo voy a disfrutar mas
@@TheLateral18 no tenés ni idea lo que es el fútbol acá en Uruguay, bien pelotudo yanki que vive dentro de la burbuja. Y que pasa si nos saca Colombia? El día que en yankilandia ganen el 10% de lo que ha ganado Uruguay habamos, mientras tanto seguí con el soccer y el marketing que es lo único que saben ustedes, con la pelota en los pies son mediocres. PAYASO.
@@danilofernandez1Salame tremendo planchazo criminal sos del tercer mundo. Uruguay le sigue quemando la pelota. Colombia los va bailar burros ensucian el fulbo élite quédense en su potrero
Jaja todo bien en casa?
International football is less entertaining in terms of the neutral but it eclipses club ball because your national team is your team and the players stay for their entire career so it gets more passion from the fans.
maybe in south america. In europe club is the passion
@@tyciol9543 Interesting. Winning the PL is more important than a World Cup? I love my club team but I'd take a World Cup over a Bundesliga title or the Scudetto.
@@brianbunker2150 most Europeans who support their hometown club would choose club success over country
Yes which is sad . There is no passion for national team in europe aside from Croatia
You cant compare a team of players that train together for an entire season with a group that joins for several times to play for their country
This goes equally for all national teams. It's not unique to Brazil.
So why isn't that the case for Argentina? Why are they not as bad as Brazil?
@@rohithraman6488Brazil needs to find a young manager with an identity and be allowed to do his job, these old head managers they keep hiring, for as old as they have been have no interest in playing football the old Brazilian way
@@Youafool500 True, it's sad how Brazil seems to have lost its way. In my opinion this started since they adopted a European style of football, they need to go back to their own identity and get a young coach in who wants to play football like that
Great Comment. When a National team Coach is picked he'll bring on the team nucleus of players he knows and can work with.
They compare a south american derby with a champions league semi final? Wow...
Well, you are talking about a continent owning 10 WCs. The latest wold champion is in SA.
@@luisangelini2220 lol world cup football is levels below UCL for quality
@@tyciol9543 Right, that's why you guys didn't win against a lower level football haha.
@@luisangelini2220 What does that even mean? Real madrid or manchester city would destroy Argentina in a game of football
@@luisangelini2220😂😂😂😅😅
Uruguay had more shots and a higher xg, and a population of 3.5m ... blame Brazil for not doing more. Poor team.
Uruguay has 15 copas américa. Brazil has 8 if I'm not mistaken.
Brazil played better than Uruguay which game do you watch?
China and India are bigger countries than Brazil, are they better in football? What has population got to do with football
@@bonitomasera8463 That's the question I make to YOU? First half Brazil waited back and Uruguay went forward. Dude, Uruguay made more shot to brazilian's goalkeep. That shows you you are wrong.
The most boring euros/copa america ever
It's all rigged.
Absolutely terrible
Germany vs Spain was a insane game 🤷♂️. But you a right 😁
I would like to see fifa being more strict on players pulling shirts and hugging down each other. It makes the game boring wen the refs has to stop the match everytime
For real. But copa going way better than euros. Germany vs spain and dutch vs turkey were the only good games of euros. But copa on another level despite no extra time and R16 which is sucks.
It’s easy to criticize copa america when all CONCACAF teams have been eliminated with the exception of Canada. Remember what confederation hosts the world cup champion. Welcome to Copa America.
For Dan....in international football if you make a single mistake u could be out of the tournament but in club football you can do mistakes but u can be spared.....
Its like Bielsa said, the
players nowadays are not the same.
As he teaches his own players to just kick the heck out of the opposition lol. Uruguay should have the most yellow cards in the Copa but they have like the lowest amount...THATS CRAZY for as many fouls they commit.
@@TheLaughingMustache-oh5ff what else can he teach a generation that cant score and cant play like players of old?
1:35 Stop trying to find excuses as to why Brazil lost, they are simply not the team they used to be. Ronaldinho literally said it and he is Brazilian himself. If this was a clean game Uruguay still would have beaten Brazil. This time around Uruguay were simply the superior team and they were always gonna win that game.
I disagree. Brazil isn’t at their best but they are still way more skilled than Uruguay and Uruguay knows it and why they had to resort to dirty play. Think about this, as underwhelming as Brazil has been, this Uruguay team could not beat them in regular time and looked more like the team desperately holding on.
@@oliveiram54 This a derby match, so its natural for it to be intense. You also gotta factor in how Andreas Pereira instigated and provoked this aggressiveness from Uruguay prior to the match. This can be seen as mind games as im sure Brazil respected this Uruguay team and wanted to throw them off. I am not entirely sure as to what you mean by Brazil are more skilled. If you are talking about player for player, then that is totally irrelevant as we all know soccer isn't played on paper. If you are simply saying they are balanced and the better unit, id still disagree. Uruguay have been in better form and play a more attractive style than Brazil. Uruguay already beat them 2-0 in the World Cup qualifiers and they beat them again. This was the one game where Uruguay didn't play attractive football.
if you are crazy and do not seem to have watched the game. Uruguay was not superior
@@gilfernando7623 Before the red card, Uruguay were playing better than Brazil
Euros and COPA have been unwatchable unless it is Spain or Germany.
+Columbia
nonsense. i've watched everything and there has been plenty of top quality football this summer, especially in Europe.
After a brilliant World Cup , the Euros have been a snooze fest
@@jeyan65 world cup was awful
@@abody499it’s easily been the worst tournament I’ve seen. Only Spain and Germany have played good, attacking football
And for Shaka to continually assert that international football is the pinnacle of highest quality is a losing argument. It can't be.
Extra time should never be scrapped - penalties don't sit well with me at all
They did this last copa as well. They pointed to it being right after club season ended and didn't want to risk injuries to players by playing extending minutes. But I agree, it takes away from the game. Watching these games, you could easily argue that Ecuador and Brazil would have won had they played an extra 30 min. Definitely helped Argentina and Uruguay going straight to penalties being down a guy.
The only game that did not deserve extra time is the England Switzerland game. All other games benefit from extra time as would Copa for sure.
They did it for messi, he cant play 120 minutes
@erickr.8390 cry harder chica. At least pretend to know what you're talking about. 2011 was the last time they had 120 in the knockouts before the final. In 2015, 2016, 2019, 2021 and now 2024.... they've all been 90 min and then pks except the final. You can resume crying now.
@@elche1976 If that was their worry, they'd just do more subs.
Didn't see Brazil crying about the roughness. You win or lose, don't make excuses, and keep on till next time.
The players don't have the mentality.
I’m confused is this everyone’s first time watching copa america ? They do this all the time in South America lol even worse if their rivals like Uruguay and Brazil
These are the kind of matches that separate those who like and understand football and those who don't. It was a great match
Exactamente, se nota que entendés de que va esto del fútbol en Uruguay, Brasil, Argentina y el resto de Sudamérica.
😂😂😂😂😂
I LOVED the physicality & scrappiness, every ball is fought like it's the last opportunity they have to possess and attack & score. There was real passion shown out there. As someone who watches Italian football & the EPL.
@@tonytellingitlikeitis5708 Right.. so start watching some WWE wrestling too fam .
This Uruguay team is probs the best since there 1950 World Cup team and they should be a team to watch at next World Cup
I agree that the Euros and Copa havent been great for attacking football. Too much success for negative tactics. The strikers are having a nightmare.
When Ronaldinho speaks, you listen!
When Ronaldinho criticised this team they said he is just jealous 😂😂😂
Getting rid of extra time increases the likelihood of lesser teams advancing , thus reducing the likelihood of having the best quality football in the later rounds. Terrible idea to remove extra time. The biggest problem with tournaments is lopsided brackets. Taking away extra time and going right to penalties will exacerbate this problem.
Correct...then these same people will complain about the product being trash
The brackets and lack of extra time occurred last copa america too. About the brackets, go back and watch the live draw. We all watched the teams get selected. Those teams could have been on Argentina's side just as well. They weren't, merely by chance. Get over it.
In extra time go 9 vs 9.
That kind of logic can be flipped around: If your "better team" cannot win in 90 minutes, and your team does not win on penalties, then maybe your team is actually not the better team in that particular match. In general, yes, but that doesn't matter when your team hasn't played well enough to win ( or the so-called "weaker team" played very well, and particularly at the right time to, say, win their Group or at least advance. ) So, Extra Time does not matter much. ( 90 minutes is PLENTY of time to win, although....I personally as a viewer enjoy watching Extra Time. LoL )
I'd add a qualifier for extra time. If Both teams have scored a goal, then it activates extra time. That way it forces teams to at least play SOME attacking football to get rewarded for added time. That way if we get 0-0 matches, we can just end that terrible spectacle as quickly as possible lol.
They make it sound like Brasil didnt make 15 fouls lol
Uruguay made 13 fouls in the first half compared to 5 by Brazil. Did you listen what Shaka said?
They did some more than 15 actually but the ref kinda wanted Uruguay to stop a bit, so he cut Uruguay more.
They made more than 15 fouls, but they weren't sanctioned. Some of them even were given free kicks for Brazil. They were forgiven 2 yellow cards on the first half.
There was a bit of partiality coming from the referee. He even interfered in one Uruguayan attack: he blocked Valverde, not letting him shoot just outside the área.
He was subtle, but he favoured the Brazilian side
And it could've been a lot more, they only got called for 15
@@jyotidas8874 Brazil had way more fouls, but they weren't getting called as much as Uruguay's
Honestly i think the level of the matches of Copa America have been far more exciting than the Euro's.. tempo and pace have been great in Copa America. Not to mention the physicality
Copa America is very violent
No bad Ref, inconsistency, clearly kicking people is not football. None of the South American team will stand a chance against European teams if it is a proper ref who will call the kicking with yellow cards
Neymar gets a lot of criticism but no one can doubt when he’s on the field he makes the game flow easier for his team. His absence really showed this copa
You can't compare club football with international football. Clubs consists of star players from various countries. National teams can only work with thier natives. Also, players are able to gel and fit better into a club system. That's why many players seems to struggle on the international stage. It's so simple..... I don't know why people can't see it
The first 4 fouls were committed by Brazil
Banish xtra time??? Ooo but yall didn’t say that for the euro but your favorite team Brazil and Argentina almost got eliminated and yall start tripping. Gtfoh
The WC was the best ever. It makes these tournaments look awful in comparison.
I think the ongoing 1/2 inch (or less) offsides calls on both cups are just ridiculous. Taking from the beautiful game. Something needs to be done. Enough with that ridiculous offside ghosts!
I think the exact opposite of Shaka Hislop. Extra time rewards teams who win their match before the end of regulation time. Very defensive teams that win on penalties pay the price in the long run.
When things don't go his way Brasil players kick more than a wild horse! They don't know Brasil very well, only know the jogo bonito marketing.
And bite!
"old fashion derby" and yet these clowns couldn't wait to talk about how horrible the match was to watch
just cause its a derby doesn't mean it wasn't a bad game to watch - both can be true
So funny cus no one says how violent and terrible the USA play… Uruguay has always played with intensity, and Brazil vs Uruguay has never been a friendly match, I’d rather watch this than England pass back and forth and dance around and do nothing 🤷🏽♂️
I like how he pronounces Brazilian Portuguese names with a fake Spanish accent.
YES LMFAO
Noticed that too lol
Everyone has been talking about the no extra time rule as if it’s a new thing. It’s been there for a while now in South American tournaments now.
Better idea: Banish extra time until the semi finals and finals of every major tournament.
Remember when ESPN where arguing if the Euros is better than the World Cup, now they are debating why the quality is Soo bad 😭😭😭
From neymar, ronaldinho, kaka to that endrick guy along with vini jr and rodrygo are the biggest downfall for brazil.
All the players do is foul each other every 30 seconds. It completely kills the flow of the game.
Yup, but these people will defend and call it the beautiful game somehow.
Every continent has its own style of football. In South America this is what type of game you get most times. Tired of hearing all these Brits hating on how we play. Just talk about the euros
And then, they don't win anything while SA does.
Too much football. If I'm an international coach, and I see France and England reaching semifinals playing slow, risk-free, and turgid football, I'm doing the same. Yes it was fun watching Turkey, Austria and Switzerland with their fast paced game but ultimately they ran out of steam when it mattered the most and all 3 are out.
Maybe if all teams adopted the French and English attitude, that might wake the authorities up. Because what we have seen over the last few weeks isn't good for football in the long run. We have reached that stage now were less is more. Get rid of this 3rd place nonsense. Less international breaks before tournaments so that players are relatively fresh when the summer tournaments start.
Leave extra time alone. Teams dropping off is part and parcel of the game. Leave it 😂😂😂
As I do believe getting rid of extra time allows teams to sit back and potentially play conservative and more defensively and just wait for penalty kicks if they realize their offense isn’t having much success. But I also believe getting rid of extra time incentivizes teams to have to play more aggressive and take more risks because of the limited time they have to win. I think it all comes down to how a team is built and there strengths
The euros and copa america have really been poor. The big teams aren't playing to their fullest potential.
The best managers are coaching club football so its not a surprise you get a rubbish product
the world cup set the standards really high.
@Mm-dn5gc lol the world cup was poor , if a team like morocco can advance you already know what the level is
At this point, i agree with conmebol's decision to take penalties straight after 90 minutes, maybe they can increase the time to 100 minutes including additional added time and banish extra time.
I guess I'm in the minority here, but I think penalties are really exciting after 90 minutes of equal or no-goal play. Football is relatively dull, over 90 minutes, with a few good chances to score a goal during the match. Penalties force teams to score and decide on a winner instead of delaying the game further by 30 minutes after 90 minutes. Just my opinion, worth about two cents, but I say get rid of extra time.
Oh my God, they know less about football than Taylor Swift. In the first part of the Uruguay match, they lost their two main defenders to injuries during the game and received a red card, so they had to play with one less player. From my point of view, Uruguay played the game they had to play, much more defensively. Even so, Brazil attacked much less, with only one shot on target.
Brazil was under a lot of pressure in this match; it was crucial for this generation that is being heavily criticized and still hasn’t won anything. It was very expected that this game would be intense, with no space and a lot of physical contact. It was a win-or-die match.
I think you need to understand a bit about football to appreciate these games. If you want to see ball movement with passes to open spaces, watch a Premier League match. If you want to see passion and a do-or-die attitude, watch a Uruguay-Brazil match.
Worst Brazil team of the decade, Need a better coach
brazil has been trash for more than 10 years. Overrated country and overrated sports team. I still remember 7-1 in the world cup
Lol cappity cap, cap. Under Tite they were World Cup favourites twice in a row. @@mistermiyagi6073
I love Brazilian football but this is unfortunately true.
So true. This team didn’t impress me not one games.
How is a better coach going to change the fact that the players are rubbish loll
Doesn’t make sense what FIFA do
The fact that Nandez was mad that he got a red for that tackle still blows my mind. That man knew exactly what he was doing. These players are veterans. They know how to tackle in certain ways, and that was a dirty, filthy hit that could have ended Rodrygo’s career. That could have snapped his ankle in half. It just shows a disrespect for the game, the players, and the fans. And yeah, the abysmal refereeing is what led to this. If the ref had been booking players after the first dirty tackle or two then Nandez likely wouldn’t have felt the liberty to make such an ugly slide.
Brazil without Neymar will continue looking like this
The two teams are very good in defense. And when is like that is hard to play. Good game.
Btw, the fixture of the Copa America is a mess, what the heck they did they think when they put groups A & B winners and runner-ups in one bracket and the remaining in the other bracket? If the fixture was done correctly, the correct semis would be Colombia vs Argentina, and Canada vs Uruguay.
Because the US is a huge country, it is split into the west side and east side
@@bryanp5843 Copa America Centenario invalidates that argument. Go check the fixture and you'll see my point.
@DTNenforcer I don't know about 2016 but they're definitely taking this into account as well as schedule considerations
@@bryanp5843 What I mean is in a competition with only one host, group winners go to one bracket and group runner-ups go to the other bracket. Because of that the winner of the argentina vs ecuador should have faced the winner of the panama vs colombia. I hope the schedule wasn't made to favor a specific team but I won't be surprised if it did considering the last 18 months.
Getting rid of extra time is absolutely insane. We witnessed the greatest World Cup final in recent history, France versus Argentina each got a goal and extra time. You reduce the climax of the game by getting rid of extra time and extra time like Spain did to Germany.
Brazil was the one that proposed a physical and rough match, Uruguay was the obe that came down to their level.
Indeed. If you see Uruguay thru this tournament, they haven't done that many fouls. Brazil came out playing tough and that's a kind of game that Uruguayan can play too.
You are blind
@@luisangelini2220 Yeah, you come playing rough against Uruguay, they can´t decline the invitation.
@@JJMB27 Agreed.
No Ballon'dor for Vini Jr
Alvarez wins Copa America for Argentina and Messi wins Ballon D'or.
@@tomodul2619Crazy meat riding
@@tomodul2619 Kid no matter what you do Ronaldo will always be WAY BELOW Messi..Get over it
Thats for sure!!!
That bang average Bellingham ain't getting his hands on that Ballon d'Or
Bruh this is the first time the copa América analyst really hit the point , Neymar was missing for sure that's why Brazil suffered this bad
In the past few days I've seen four games go to penalties and in every one (Portugal vs France, England vs Switzerland, Uruguay vs Brazil, Argentina vs Equador) the team going second ended up missing their first penalty.
Going second seems to be such a huge disadvantage in penalties that I really think we should just do a golden goal rule in extra time. It also might force teams to play with more urgency because getting to penalties seems to be the goal of every team in this Euro/Copa (except Spain) and then just hoping the coin flip goes their way.
Its psychological, you always want to kick first to be at an advantage. it puts pressure on the other team.
still better than France and England
BS, these two teams wouldn't even survive Euro Qualifiers 😂
England is the most overrated trash in this sport . Always have easy brackets and groups . Slovakia were a minute from
Eliminating them
Guess Ronaldinho was right about this Brazil team
Crazy how guardiola ruined football worldwide just so he could win a frw titles by paying the refs
Brazil has fallen from grace the mystique is gone from watching the past greats like Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Roberto Carlos, Cafu, Bebeto, Rivaldo, Kaka, Dunga, Ramario, Denilson, Dida, Lucio, Maicon, Dani Alves, Emerson, Adriano, just to name many to what we have seen the last 12 years from Brazil has been awful.
They reached the last two copa Americas
Bro the competition they are up against in SA is not that great.
@@BookJay35 you can’t always stay at the top
Extra Time should remain, it's part of the game. And not every match goes to extra time taking in the equation all competitions.
mark...this is football not soccer
whatever its the same - get over it
Shaka's arguement of international football being the pinnacle, just holds no water. These Euros and Copa have been terrible.
The current brazilian players are good, but no where near the level of the all time great players of Brazil
they're really bad stop it
@@mistermiyagi6073 couldn't agree more