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Tour de France 2024 - Jonas Vingegaard : “One of my best performances, but Pogacar is just stronger”
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- čas přidán 13. 07. 2024
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Le Danois Jonas Vingegaard de l'équipe Visma Lease a Bike à l'arrivée de la 15e étape de ce Tour de France 2024 au Plateau de Beille.
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I dont know what people expect of Jonas? Like he is a super human with secret powers?
To get second place and ahead of Remco (who is also super strong this year and one of favourites) is more then we can ever expect of him for this tour after his horrible crash.
His health cannot be restored after 12 weeks and still he has did these incredible performances in the tour. Even won a stage.
We can be super proud of him and he is doing the right thing as well to be proud of himself and be optimistic for the future stages.
Keep fighting Jonas we will cheering and supporting you no matter what !!! 🌸
Jonas is great and Tadej is a bit greater right now. They both have much to be proud of! Go Jonas!!!!!!!
Jonas can hold his head high. Nothing to be ashamed about. This rivalry will last many more years.
Apart from the fact he has a mask on.
@@BCCmma64bang🤡
He is doing his best . After the crash and only in 2 months to recovery is no easy. You are a Gladiator!!!.
Jonas what a champion! He carries so much class even out of the saddle. Big respect.
JV you are my champion 💙. Could anyone imagine after broken bones, punctured lung and riding a bike non stop for 5 hours at mountains is a remarkable recovery and no one can achieve this level. No matter whoever wins this year JV is a true warrior of this year ❤❤❤
What Jonas is accomplishing just 100 days after collapsing a lung is truly extraordinary, Jonas is an inspiration
Truely impressed with Jonas. He is an Amazing and inspiring champion 🤩
As a Pogi fan I think he really needs to grab the chance to win this year's tour and make it a hat trick of wins. Next year this is going to be a lot harder with Jonas normally prepared and probably with a stronger team too.
Jonas said it was one of his best performances of his life, so the crash wasn't an issue. Whats more of an issue was having a weaker team around him. Also Tadje is definitely better this years and as we know in the past, he bonked a couple of times on the warm days but he said his team kept him cool as best they could with water and he kept better track of his food and drink intake.
In previous years, when he was isolated, they could not do this.
He has a stronger team and Jonas has a weaker team this year.
If Jonas does beat him this year, then he definitely is the no 1 grand tour rider but I don't see it happening
Pogil will not run La Vuelta
Super respect and proud of Jonas' performance and attitude. Still not counting him out. Only he has the chance of a hat trick (3 in a row)
Jonas has the patience of a saint having to answer all these stupid questions. However it turn out, proud of Jonas.
Spoken like a true champion keep up the great effort and just be strong🚴🏼♂️🚴🏼♂️
He do very good job honestly, hard to believe after big crashed have this performance. But previous he got a massive star team to support. This year absolutely down size . And Pogi very strong this year . Hopefully will see more good show in later
The tour was probably sentenced today, Jonas did the best he could and it was even more than we all expected so my respects for him fighting so hard to sell the tour victory. On the other hand I think from now on he must run smart and defend the 2nd place, further efforts like today's might crack him at the final stages and make him loose podium. Go Jonas, I know you'll recover fully and fight even harder next year, you're great 👍🏻
Warrior!
I'm already looking forward to next year when Jonas will be super fit. Then it will be a real competition.
He just said it was the best ride of his life. Do you think he's lying?
@@stephencolton299
He did, but obviously he can do better, when he’s able to train concistent next spring
Being a Dad after a tough stage like this one is hard. Respect to him.
Why does being a Dad make it so?
This is the biggest race of the year. For once his work should come first. The family always being there is a distraction.
@@Liofa73
I totally agree & I'm waiting for someone to tell me why being a Dad AFTER a stage like today, is hard.
The comment, saying so...but without reasoning.
Funny I read it exactly the opposite way. It seemed that he took strength from his family. And that his family comes first. This was Jonas' best chance to turn the GC tide and it must have been hard to watch - after both he and Tadej pulverized the record up that last climb! He's so mentally strong, surrounded by his family. A nice piece of editing in this interview, showing Jonas arriving with his family and leaving quietly with them. All of the GC top 10 should be proud of their place!
Bravo 👏 jonasvingagaar Bravo 👏
Jonas has an incomparable big colossal heart ..a lone wounded fighting beast ...my cycling GOAT
Everyone appreciates your hard work and your attitude. Great winner and great loser - that’s a very respectable skill
Great aggressive race today.
Respect for trying!
Tour is still long, he's right. Pogacar seems unbeatable at the moment, but the tour ends in Nice!
Well done Jonas 👍🏻👏🏻
Sports journalists are such assholes xD "Is this a knock out for you?"
What is he supposed to say? "Yeah, I suck. I'll just go home now"?
Respect to these athletes keeping their cool while being poked as they are completely exhausted and recently defeated.
He's being gracious. The injury probably has him a bit off of his normal form. However, being a Pog fan, I'm really starting to wonder about him. Only 1 stage has he looked somewhat vulnerable and even then he was able to stick with Jonas. Either Jonas is really not in the best shape due to the injury or Pog is....
JV is doing top performance of his live he's at 100% it's just Pogacar who improved since 2022
Pog is sus right now to be honest hate to be the guy saying it. Jonas is not in bad form he has improved climbing wise but is weaker in power/sprint. Yates also did a sus performance earlier this year. All im gonna say is if they are clean, then hats off they are simply the best and if it continues jonas will not win again. Pogi improved his best climbing with 5% this year. And Yates and almeida did a climb in april that only Jonas was able to do last year.
@@TellusJD more sus than Jonas with pneumothorax?
@@TellusJD Knowledge about training/nutrition/recovery is much better now than even 10 years ago.
@@TellusJD Mauro Gianetti is why I've always slightly wondered about UAE and Pog. I'm not even sure why he is allowed to be a CEO of a team given his history. The past 2 tours there was a bit more yo-yoing going on between Pog and Jonas. It just seems like after losing last year's tour, Pog all of a sudden became invincible. Coming out of the Giro and acting like he has no limits to his energy is definitely questionable. And we know that doping is done to aid in quicker recovery which offsets any potential bad days. Remember when Lance never had bad days or even appeared to struggle in the tour?
I like them all, neither is having any excuses, when the other is better, they admit it. 👏👏💯
Well done to the riders for an exciting stage🎉🎉🎉…..that was impressive
It is estimated that Tadej makes some 450w of average power output in the final climb... Jonas on the other hand don't really have time to get well trained this year. He also seems a bit too light, sub 60kg or something, which is understandable given he crashed not long ago and don't have time to gain some weight back. Anyways, I think the battle of yellow jersey is 90% done and I cannot see Tadej will just suddenly crack because obviously UAE has improved quite a lot to keep him cool and hydrided all the way to the finish and this is what they are going to do in the last week of the tour. Visma needs quite some time to recover and making sure everyone is in their best shape (well, wout isn't and Sepp is not even in the race)
Super hard, super strong, super happy, super super strong.
Sending Jonas good vibes!❤
Love this dude. No excuses, gracious and left it all there
Tadej is the best rider at this year’s TDF, after a long season of preparation, Jonas is the second best rider after a stint in ICU and two surgeries and six week training period.
Long season of preparation? You mean San Remo, Strade Bianche, LBL, Vuelta Catalunya and the Giro?
@@tonyg3091 yes plus many training rides and internal UAE camps
Competing yellow after that hard crash is incredible human achievement. I’m a fan of Tadej but huge respect to Jonas!!
I used to hate Jonas , but now I realize the two of them are the best thing for this sport. and im lucky I started watching cycling 5 years ago when this rivalry started!!
The rivalry started in 2022 actually. Jonas had won almost nothing till 2021.
To be honest It s great that he s so competitive after the troubles he had due to the crash
He just makes excuses
@@alejandrovelasquez9010 i cheer Tadej but Jonas is a super rider too
@@alejandrovelasquez9010 your obviously a f***** ignorant to say something like this
@@81enri Well said. To bad small kids have jumped on the Tadej bandwagon.
Jonas knows he's the best still. I'm not a fanatic for either of them but it's clear from his confidence he believes he can still pull off the TdF. The next grand tour with both of them in good shape is going to be sick I believe. Glad this wasn't the curb stomp that the Giro ended up being.
Time for Pogi to win the Vuelta and truly become a legend. Nobody can stay with him this year.
That would be great. Imagine having a winner of all The Grand Tours and clean at the same time. Wouldn't that be something?
he is not doing it ..he said a few times...he is doing the Olympics and WC
@mrsewe417 CLEAN?😂
Clean 😂😂
After every stage, the same questions come up repeatedly. What is he supposed to say? Like wtf.
congrats Jonas
He’s right, pog is just jut super strong but he’s cracked before.
He cracked because he was constantly attacking to catch the yellow jersey and visma had a strong team to keep pulling him back. That a lot different to tadej leading by 3mins and having a strong team this year
@@cheesecrackers522that’s Atleast part of it, he had issues with the heat and over feeding that he’s solved too.
Jonas put up a valiant fight, that's what fans want to see from him, but in the end, Tadej was/is just too strong in his current form. If anything, Tadej was getting stronger during these last 2 mountain stages (14, 15).
They are both two of the greatest in history. we must hope they stay health and with this motivation.
The tour is not closed but I think that Tadej when is in "Hulk mode" is unstoppable, an icredible rider and guy
Two of the greatest in history? I can name many that have a better palmares than Jonas! What has he won outside of his 2 tour victories? Go look at Coppi, Binda, Bartali, Gimondi, Van Steenbergen, Rik Van Looy, Andre Leducq, Sylvere Maes. Of course you have the likes of Anquetil, Le Blaireau, Big Mig, Le pistolero, Pantani, Charly Gaul etc. No need to bring Le Cannibale in to it, he is unreachable. Pog is awesome, and may well get into rarified air of Hinault etc. But Jonas never will, a one trick pony, although its an awesome trick.
@@markhill9275 i am a big fan of tadej, but jonas deserves respect, i think that thank to jonas Tadej had improved a lot, especially in grand tour.
Two of the greatest? Or are they the top men of these era putting on a brilliant, close battle that is entertaining to watch. Merckx, Hinault, Fignon, LeMond, Anquetil and now we talking "greatest."
Jonas is not even close to the greatests in history
@@TheSaturnVPog will overshadow ALL of these. Except Merckx.
Pogi broke contadors VAM record. Greatest climning performance alltime, without a doupt
It is easy to beat a nan coming out from ICU, isn't't it?
@@user-so3zx9pg7n vinny said he put up his best numbera on that climb. Just how tis son
C'est pas grave... l'important cest de se faire plaisir...
We hope a bad say of Pogacar on Isola stage and Vingegaard best shape ever and can take great time but toigh
He can bounce back on the next mountain stage.. go Jonas win it.. ❤
Great champion, but Pogacar seems to be stronger, if not much stronger in this tour
What a warrior!
Ne tequie pas ‹notre dame de lourde te protèges cotere jonas
Story line, ratings are great even if Pogi is diving into the PED pool and comes positive . UCI will bury it. At the end of the day it’s a business ….. and business is good
Nothing to be ashamed of. JV is amazing rider, Pogi was just stronger today.
Boy the reporters can ask some stupid questions.
It's world wide, their cumulative IQ and professionalism have plummeted in the last decades.
He deserves better questions.
He broke Pantanis record for that last mountain by nearly 3 minutes. Pog broke it by nearly 4 minutes.
Pogacar can’t have a bad day, of course! Only the people who are practicing cycling constantly can understand how it is almost impossible to do not have a bad day, come on !!!
이전에는 마스크 안 쓰더니 이제 마스크 전부 다 쓰네. 와, 정말 펠로톤에 코로나 퍼지고 있나보다..어후..걱정되네요. 요나스 수고했어요. 3주차에 더 멋진 모습 기대할게요.
Exactly. He needs a bad day from tadej to win. That says it all.
Roles have reversed from last year. Tadej is the better bike racer look at the number of stages he's won versus the wheelsucker. Jonas has impressed given his terrible crash but this ain't his year.
@@TimSleppyTadej has always been stronger than Jonas, Jonas just had a better team.
@@elouan4067 imo pogacar can be better all around but on long climb i think vingegaard can be a little better, we havent seen full form pogacar vs full form vingegaard yet
@@elouan4067 That is definately not true, Jonas beat him mano oh mano last year, the only reason Jonas could win with his team riding hard was to put the race in a hard condition where he is the strongest. I guess you dont know about numbers but the earlier years the numbers dont lie Jonas was just stronger in climbing than pog. However this year Pogi suddenly improved 5% a massive improvement I have never seen before in cycling.
@@elouan4067 you don’t have to dislike Jonas Just because you love Pogacar..
Jonas Beat tadej by 7 minutes last year.
And Yates (Pogacar’s teammate) was number 3 in gc.
Just appreciate the great battles they give us
Next year sam yates, sepp kuss and matteo. It is going to be great.
Pogi is on another level but Jonas did ok
Son 2 competidores DUROS
How many mountain ⛰️ stages left in the tour right now?
3
@@6h483 🫡
Again-talking how you hope Pog will crack as he did last year was a bad idea. He surely understands that what made Pog train harder and come to this Tour all guns blazing was exactly his loss in 2023.
Reminding him about that just pours more fuel on the already raging fire.
But it is true that nothing is decided yet. Real pain comes in stages 19,20 and of course 21
The same question is asked 5 times what a disgrace. Cycling really has the worlds dumbest reporters
Madame de lourde et pour st b. Toi jonas
Pogacar is not totally happy.... it is understandable. ...
It's funny how people were saying Jonas would crack on & win the tour after his win the other day.
Reading the comments shows how fickle these same people are.
Very honest on his strategy of hoping pogacar to have a bad day 😂
They have media specialists advising him wat to say. It's mind games, don't expect anything personal said from him.
Why are they wearing masks?
Covid in the peloton
I would like to see and I feel we are going to see more from Jonas in this tour, this is not finish yet
We are so proud of you Jonas. The best non doper in the tour. You are the world best GC rider.
ma cosa volete, il danese ha gia' vinto due Tour, vi pare poco?
I’m really puzzled about everyone wearing masks here. Is this old or the psychosis is happening again!
He’d be better just riding for second otherwise with his lack of preparation Jonas is more likely to have the bad day. It was all or nothing today and he lost
Ils font quoi ces extra terrestres avec leurs masques. Ils ne respirent pas le même air que tout le monde ?
Go Pog 🇮🇪
Remco also crashed badly and he hasn't mentioned his injuries once in the tour interviews. And how can he be putting best performance of his life after SUCH injury? Something smells fishy here...
Probably even more fishy that someone left him for dead on that mountain after that same someone won the Giro by ten minutes without breaking a sweat. Is that what you mean by fishy?
@@mrsewe417 Poor Vin fans. GO Crying loud now !!
Its not the same. He has been able to train, its not that it wasnt a bad crash for remco, its that vingegaard punctured his lung had a whole rib cage broken and a collarbone. Remco had "just" a collarbone and a scapular broken. While that is bad for sure, it doesnt impede training in the same way. And doesnt put you in Intensive care unit for weeks like with vingegaard. On top remco was able to go to races after that. He was in dauphine fx. Jonas had to cancel all races up to.
Rhoo..... et ça donne quoi en Français ?? !!!
Jonas wants Pogi to have a " bad day"....
😅😅😅😅😅
Not very faire play....go Pogi...go go...
Can we say Lance Armstrong part2
”Five minutes quicker than Armstrong up the climb”
@@dcataj5085 The cycling press defects with "Better fueling,Aerodynamics,Keytones your grandmas chicken soup....blah blah.Anyone with an IQ higher than thier shoe size knows its utter BS.
@@dcataj5085 which means Vingegaard who was in hospital 2 months ago and pulled for Pogacar for 5 kilometres on that climb was still 4 minutes faster than Armstrong. So if you want to imply Pogacar is on the juice, Vingegaard is as well.
@@dcataj5085 And Armstrongs blood used to glow in the dark. What an athlete we have got here.
Jonas is a crack
Jonas, will lost the tour. Pogi is very strong.
You think?
Good call Sherlock
Tadej is talking g to much 💩 this year. Las year was crying like a baby. Now he’s not respecting Jonas. Etc. Etc. More years comes…..
pog man did the brutal giro de italia and made no excuses,,stop with the injuries song vingeegard ! your numbers are very much the same and even better comparing with last year tdf.. you all think about that and let it sink in
Does it hurt being this dumb or is it okay to live with?
Guess we will finally have a GIro/Tour winner for the first time since Pantani. He was of course doped to the teeth so its good to have a clean one like Pogi, who drive like a motorbike all year on pure talent and hard work only.
thats the problem, pogi did giro and is now showing 5% improvement compared to anything he has done before. Yesterday he outdid all the dopers in the 90 era except 1 in watts pr kg on 30 minute level. Its getting really sus. I have never heard of any other sport where 5% improvement is possible in a year mid career on the top level.
Pog is clearly stronger and Jonas is not weak, but that is getting really sus, Jonas is actually a level above his last year on some points, which is more logcal in terms of the weight loss, but he is also significantly weaker in the sprint and punch.
@@TellusJD Nothing is sus if you ask me though. First off we live in a generation where there are plenty of riders who are levels above the rest in their field, not only, Pogacar, Jonas and Remco, but also MvdP and Van Aert in the classics.
Can't compare the 90's era to this era because everything in this sport has changed since then, training methods, material, nutrition and so on.
All of these riders, if not every rider in wealthy team is using everything that is not on the doping list, we can be sure of that.
But as long as they are not using anything illegal, which imo is close to impossible since they are tested pretty much after every race. I don't see the point of calling it sus. Whether this is a healthy thing to do is another discussion ofc.
Vinchingarre is completely finished.
Takes one to know one, right?
It’s nice for him to have his family there, but it just introduces more risk of illness and Covid. And it’s a massive distraction.
As if the interviewers aren’t introducing more unnecessary risk by swarming him like that daily
Maybe remove the stupid mask? It might help your recovery. It's 2024, not 2020.
Covid going around. Keep up.
Sorry to say but sports reporter are the worst.
Oh no the nappy is on again!
Of course it is, there have been many reports of Covid and general sickness around the Tour this year. He has worked incredibly hard to get where he is, why risk losing it all, if something as simple as a mask could maybe prevent it?
Again: Mr. Jonas Excuses Vingegaard
Whats the excuse? He is saying its one of his best performances, and gives props to Pogachar for being super strong. They have great respect for eachother, stop being cringe dickriding fans who only reads clickbait titles and comments, if you took time to watch these interviews before just commenting hatred lmao.
"Tadej was just stronger" ... What more do you want him to say?! His crash IS a valid excuse and part of the explanation... And yes, I said PART of the explanation.
@alejandrovelasquez9010 He givens you no reason to dislike him. Why do you? It’s so childish. He respects Pogačar and made ZERO excuses.
Don’t think he’s making any excuses.
Just let him comment stupid things like that.
If it makes his sad life a little happier
Vingegaard avec un masque! Quel ridicule!😅 ce nest pas ainsi qu'il va gagner!
🤣🤣🤣 Hope for a bad day for Pogi and his team !!! This dude doesn't stop to shock me after ... Yah , go for it mate hope is dying the last mate . Pogi is ready for you most than ever dude ! With Yates, Almeida, Niels and Wallens in so very good shape , you can dream on vingegaard . What ? We all know you were and still are Pogi's shadow . Even your sport director always told you : STAY in Pogacar wheel always ! These guys from visma are so ... professional ... so creative ! They're such awesome team ! After all his team mates crashed all over the place in almost all races that they had ! Wow ! I mean ! This is the deffending champ ? Waiting for Tadej to have a BAD DAY ? Such wise guy and so professional ! 🤣😅😆😂
Z całym szacunkiem dla Jonasa ale jest to dla mnie kolarz jednego wyścigu jak Lance. Tadej to kolarz niemal kompletny.
Yep. He is captain Fantastic. We have never seen anyone dominate like him. I mean never anyone not doped of course.
@mrsewe417 Your trolling is strong 😂
Jonas, you are not teling the truth, 😡
I think he was pretty straight up. Yesterday Pog beat Armstong's record of the last climb by 2 minutes. They got same bike weight as back then. 2 minutes is a lot and Lance was off his face on dope. At those times and before, heart attacks were happening in the Peloton with EPO so hope it doesn't bring in a new batch of victims.
Remco also beat Armstrong record today @@jerrychicken967
He is honest Jonas is climbing better than ever, pogi is unreal right now. The watts dont lie. Pogacar improved 5% compared to anything he has ever done before in 1 year. And he is up there among the best climbs ever done in the 90s let that sink in. The calculations are right now that he is at the point if not better than pantani in 94-96 the only clear better climb is bjarne riis on heautacam 1996.
I dont like vingeegssrd since this tour
What’s not to like about him? I’m a huge fan of both tadej and Jonas. Don’t care who wins out of the two.
Could you elaborate that nonsens !??
Et tous avec des masques!!!! Ridicule
Why is everyone wearing those stupid paper masks
Face diapers. Jump! How high?
The Doping Era for Jonas is Over he should go home now.
So he is doped but still can't beat a clean Pog? Doping must be overrated.
Use your brain, before using your keyboard 🤡
Hopping for bad day of your concurrent is very nice sign of SPORTSMANSHIP. Anchovy, how about pushing Tadej from the road in high speed!?
He had the best performance of his life but was beaten like the school kid!? And now, his best chance is Tadej's bad day.
Disgusting lack of SPORTSMANSHIP, respect and fair play.
Tour de France is not one day you idiot, the teams have strategy during the tour and he know he can mantain his level during the days, last tour we saw how a couple of bad days took the tour away from Pogacar because Jonas was more consistent during the tour...what if Pogacar burns out? Is it illegal if Jonas wins because of that?? Dont think so
Too many excuses. He keeps telling us he's going to win and he keeps losing time. He's not a favorite anymore. Remco is much more gracious and gives credit where credit is due.
Remco said in an interview yesterday that he could have dropped Jonas, while Jonas was the one dropping him... But yeah fans will be fans I guess. All three are performing insanely well even after the injuries Remco and Jonas had this year.
Are you plain deaf? He said he has to hope for Pog to have a bad day. How is that the same as saying he is going to win or saying he is a favorite? Please do better.
I dont know what you hear but it seems you dont understand at all what hes saying.
He said yesterday that on Stage 15 he would win and he ended up losing. I told my friends he would win and he made a fool out of me. I’m not backing him anymore. Too many mind games. He should let his legs do the talking.
@@burronortenoyou just made a fool of yourself yet again, mate.
"Jonas will be getting stronger and Pogacar will be getting weaker"
"wait til the third week"
"wait the the high mountains come"
"tomorrows stage suits me better"
"wait til the time trial"
"everyone can have a bad day"
⏰🥱🤔
@timliscum2861 So, clearly by your example, you just give up whenever something difficult happens?