Which Canner Should I Buy? Best canners for pressure and water bath canning | Electric canner

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  • Have you ever asked yourself - which canner should I buy? Before you buy a pressure canner, watch this video! We are reviewing two pressure canners by Presto: the basic stovetop model and the digital electric canner. These are our favorite canners for preserving our home-grown produce and canned meats. The Presto Digital Canner is a game changer in the canning world, because it does all the hard work of monitoring and timing for you. Plus it can do both water bath canning and pressure canning!
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  • @HeartwayFarms
    @HeartwayFarms  Před 11 měsíci +1

    👉 FREE Canning PDF Download and Resources:
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  • @MimiG2182
    @MimiG2182 Před rokem +15

    Many, MANY moons ago, I used a stove top "simple" basic stove top pressure canner and loved it; however, I had help with moving it while filled with water. Now that I have to do it all by myself (in my 70s) I do not have the strength to lift one to pour out the water. I purchased the Presto digital canner and LOVE it. It's easy for me to use and light enough for me to feel comfortable with all the steps. Folks, all you have to do is listen for the prompts, it's that simple. I didn't can for over 10 years due to lack of strength (and neuropathy) - but I'm canning again and so happy to be doing it.
    Love watching all of you around the farm, but especially the way your girls pitch in to learn, to do and to make things work. Keep it up!!

  • @doreenlawrence2654
    @doreenlawrence2654 Před rokem +4

    I wanted to use the stovetop presto canner, and tried it once. It was then that I discovered that my electric coil burners would not hold the heat steady for constant pressure! Who knew that electric stoves cycle like this?!!! So, it was either get a new gas stove (propane in my area) and run a line to it , or go with an electric canner. I bought a Nesco (smaller but less expensive) and I love it! My small batch canning is off and running! If I ever get a gas stove, I will also use the basic presto.

  • @krisminer3325
    @krisminer3325 Před rokem +4

    I love when our children find what they love to do and are able to share that by teaching us! What a sense of accomplishment! I just started canning this year and love it.

  • @ginnyquintal4201
    @ginnyquintal4201 Před rokem +6

    I also love that your daughter has taken on the canning process everyone should know how to do this it’s so important to preserve your own food especially in the Times that we have right now

    • @ginnyquintal4201
      @ginnyquintal4201 Před rokem +3

      If you. haven’t tried the digital Pressure canner you’re missing out it is a major game changer I absolutely love mine

  • @karenhowell4918
    @karenhowell4918 Před rokem +5

    Not started canning yet . Just studying it , and the pressure cooking one seems safe . My biggest fear is getting my family sick 😷 if I do it wrong😢.

  • @Niamh07421
    @Niamh07421 Před 3 měsíci +1

    will be canning for the first time this year (grands want to learn- we also have a huge garden and live on a farm) we have always put everything in our many freezers- I have been gifted a stove top canner- but the presto seems a better fit(we use our instant pots all the time) seems to kind of the same idea - but what may have sealed the deal is that you can also use as a water bath- was looking to buy a waterbath pot- but with this presto I won't have to- thanks so much for this tutorial

  • @joanloflin3820
    @joanloflin3820 Před rokem +1

    I used mine today for the first time and I love it

  • @tammymanuel9158
    @tammymanuel9158 Před rokem +2

    I am really hoping that Santa brings me a presto electric pressure canner for Christmas. Lol This is one of the two things I have asked for this year besides a Kitchen Aide stand mixer. I water bath can alot, but I really need to be able to pressure can stuff.

  • @A-G5518
    @A-G5518 Před rokem +2

    I Soooooo want the electric pressure canner!!! The Amazon reviews are so crazy that it's held me back from taking the dive. So many CZcams people absolutely love theirs but then there's so many, many, many negative reviews on it on Amazon. A lot of that is just that it arrives all kind of dinged and damaged but some is problems with the product itself. I may see about ordering directly from the company to hopefully avoid issues 🤔 I do have the same presto stovetop canner though and absolutely love it! It's a bit addictive once you get past the fear of using it, haha!

  • @sharim6802
    @sharim6802 Před rokem +6

    I am an All American fan. I have had one for almost 20 years and the other I bought off of marketplace. I am interested in learning more about the #presto electric canner but wonder about their accuracy. Thanks for doing these reviews. I find them very interesting.

  • @ginnyquintal4201
    @ginnyquintal4201 Před rokem +1

    I noticed since I’ve purchased mine after seeing your videos I love it it doesn’t put out the heat that I stovetop pressure canner does especially in the warmer months when we are starting to process all these foods

  • @vickiegossett7214
    @vickiegossett7214 Před rokem +2

    Love my presto stove top canner. Never tried the digital (not in my budget). Thank you for sharing.

  • @jesslussier5780
    @jesslussier5780 Před rokem +1

    i have not canned yet but really want to tackle that next year i would love tp get the presto as i dont trust myself to be able to keep a eye on a canner as i work from home taking service calls while also home schooling my kids and keeping my toddler busy its a crazy wonderful blessed life. I did finallly buy a vac sealer though and being able to freeze bulk meat with out getting frost bite has been great

  • @kristieweeks3904
    @kristieweeks3904 Před rokem +1

    I have the presto stove top canner and I really like it. I have a glasstop stove and I haven't had any problems!

  • @susan-almosta_farm8823
    @susan-almosta_farm8823 Před rokem +3

    Canning is my favorite way to preserve. That may change if I can ever get my hands on a freeze dryer. lol! I love watching your daughter with all the canning ideas and all her baking ideas and recipes. She's so smart and way ahead of her age! I'm in my 60's and have gardened and preserved for a while, but didn't have a clue about any of it the first 40 yrs of my life. I'm so old school, but I bet I'd love the digital canner too.

  • @carolwhisenhunt7504
    @carolwhisenhunt7504 Před rokem +1

    I have presto digital and I love it!!!!!! I've never used stove top since I have this.

  • @TheMzTR
    @TheMzTR Před rokem +1

    I don't own any of these, however, I always say to myself..' Add this one to ur wish list'. Tks for introducing & sharing information about this product

  • @cheriejenkins4758
    @cheriejenkins4758 Před rokem +1

    I love my All American I just got one three years ago and I have used the heck out of it. If I find an electric cheap enough I would consider trying it.

  • @elizajayne2757
    @elizajayne2757 Před rokem +1

    #PRESTO
    I have the Presto 23 qt with gauge and 15 lb steam release weight. The gauge is no issue for me because I have a co-op just north of me over the county line, and another just south of me that do yearly testing, which is required for safe canning. I plan on upgrading to the All-American when I move.
    I love my Presto. It was my "beginner canner".
    I remember reading that only 2 brands have USDA approval. The All-American and the Presto. That's something to keep in mind when shopping for a pressure canner.

  • @kimg5784
    @kimg5784 Před rokem +1

    #presto The biggest reason I dont pressure can is fear of it blowing up. I have been researching an electric pressure canner because then I can set it up downstairs and forget it. Thanks for recommendation!

  • @kjnz2804
    @kjnz2804 Před rokem +1

    Love my stove top #presto. A digital canner would be so convenient for smaller batches

  • @alexwidmer7421
    @alexwidmer7421 Před rokem +1

    I love my Presto stovetop canner and hope to someday try the digital canner.

  • @pamelamartin1241
    @pamelamartin1241 Před rokem +1

    I have an All American but I've been thinking about getting an electric pressure canner just because it would be nice to fill it then get back out to the garden.

  • @goatgal7884
    @goatgal7884 Před rokem +1

    I have never seen the #presto electric canner before...that's really awesome.Thanks you for sharing this video.

  • @joantate6822
    @joantate6822 Před rokem +1

    Asked for a pressure canner for Christmas! 🤞🏻

  • @gailwarfield9491
    @gailwarfield9491 Před rokem +1

    I also have a Presto stove top canner, but it is the large one and I love it! Have heard of the electric canners but don’t own one.

  • @sitsngigglesful
    @sitsngigglesful Před rokem +1

    I love my 16 qt and 23 qt presto PCs. I use them ALL the time. I am reallllllllyyyyy leaning toward.getting the electric one so I can do it away from the stove. I see you use yours and one of these days I'm just gonna make the leap!

  • @bettypowers5166
    @bettypowers5166 Před rokem +1

    I have both but it's hard for me to use the stove top one as I have an induction range. I can't afford gas/propane yet🤞. I love the electric pressure cooker! Set and push buttons as needed, it's the best for new ish canners like me.

  • @kaseydoty3706
    @kaseydoty3706 Před rokem +1

    I love my presto 23 quart pressure canner so much I bought a second one. I just asked for the electric presto canner for Christmas.

  • @kc-hr4kx
    @kc-hr4kx Před rokem +1

    Thank you for doing this review. I am new to canning only tried water bath so far. Purchased the Presto canner after watching. 😊

  • @Epmuinlk
    @Epmuinlk Před rokem +1

    Presto electric is awesome!!

  • @lindyconner7998
    @lindyconner7998 Před rokem +1

    Ordered both for my "birthday " very excited

  • @rickibyrd9183
    @rickibyrd9183 Před rokem +1

    I love my #presto stove top canner and absolutely need an electric pressure canner. Your right it’s hard to cook dinner with a canner on the stove

  • @beamsmom01
    @beamsmom01 Před rokem +1

    I use the presto stove top canner. I have even used it for water bath canning.

  • @shirleykunard9763
    @shirleykunard9763 Před rokem +1

    I have used the stove top one for years. But I just got the presto electric canner for Christmas.

  • @COWELLGIRL
    @COWELLGIRL Před rokem +1

    I found a old All American at a thrift store for 40$ I absolutely love it but have considered a electric one like yall have

  • @lisamart53
    @lisamart53 Před rokem +1

    I've been wanting a Presto canner but I think my kids bought me one for Christmas I hope.

  • @JVsNorthwoodsHomestead
    @JVsNorthwoodsHomestead Před rokem +2

    I have two 23qt presto canners often taking up my entire stovetop. Even if I were to invest in a presto digital canner I would still be using both of my stovetop models! It would be an awesome addition to my canning arsenal though!
    I love that Julienne taught you to can! It's an amazing feeling to know that your kids are taking it upon themselves to learn! I find it amazing that my 15yr old can crochet but I cannot! Maybe someday I will learn!

  • @sharonguile3761
    @sharonguile3761 Před rokem +1

    #Presto I love the presto pressure canner both electric and stovetop. I have a glass top stove so the large presto I use with a propane burner outside. The electric is used indoors all year long.

  • @lindaswango1758
    @lindaswango1758 Před rokem +1

    I have an older #Presto canner and love it. I can just all the time!

  • @KeepMeLord05
    @KeepMeLord05 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I had big issues canning last year on my glass stove top so I appreciate your review very much. ty

    • @HeartwayFarms
      @HeartwayFarms  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Wonderful!
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  • @gwenmancini1879
    @gwenmancini1879 Před rokem +1

    Hi again. I have a steam canner for all my water canning projects. I do love this canner. I think I am getting to old to get into the pressure canning. But thanks for the input.

  • @mommaai9868
    @mommaai9868 Před 9 měsíci +1

    You just helped me decide which canner to buy thank you

  • @roseabrams7016
    @roseabrams7016 Před rokem +1

    I have been water bath canning, but I am wanting to start pressure canning

  • @tannyastone8313
    @tannyastone8313 Před rokem +1

    I got the #presto electric pressure canner this summer and have loved using it. I had used just a water bath canner prior.

  • @myla5233
    @myla5233 Před rokem +1

    I’m on my second presto stove top canner. I do a lot of canning from meat to soups so I have them in my prep pantry. I love to can and the feeling of accomplishment. Knowing my family has food to cook and at whether I’m home or not. What I hate is having to do numerous batches and have my canner going all day. I wish I had an extra canner so I can get more canning done faster. I would love to try the presto digital but haven’t invested in one yet. Overall I’ve had a great experience canning. I use to help my mom can when I was younger and have carried on the tradition with my family. Very rewarding.

  • @takingcareofmine
    @takingcareofmine Před rokem +1

    Never seen the presto electric so had reservations-I use an all American but that #presto electric looks so easy-my husband could do it!

  • @patriciagates9115
    @patriciagates9115 Před rokem +1

    I am sure enough a fan of Jules. Her fearless promotion of the canning arts is so valuable in promoting confidence in other young people. Your family's example continues to be a beacon in these less than stable times. Much love and thanks to you all.

  • @lynnmilton1240
    @lynnmilton1240 Před rokem +1

    #Presto I’ve seen a lot of videos with these this year. I have 4 canners but this would be great for when the grandkids are over. I can just set it and not have to worry about watching it. Thanks for the review on this product.

  • @carissahelms6028
    @carissahelms6028 Před rokem

    Am new to pressure canning, your videos on preserving food have been so helpful. Thank you ❤

  • @WolfeHomestead
    @WolfeHomestead Před rokem +1

    I love canning and especially pressure canning. Then when I saw Julieanne canning with the digital canner. I decided I needed to get one. It’s had to pressure can on my electric stove. I love watching you guys when you do canning.

  • @lauriedrake
    @lauriedrake Před rokem

    I started canning with a Presto stovetop a couple of years ago, and it honestly was a chore!! Constantly babysitting it, dreading having to take a whole day to put up two loads of jars, never feeling like I was accomplishing the job. I finally purchased the electric Presto a couple of months ago, the heavens opened and the angels began to sing. I have canned meats and several loads of tomatoes (easier than steam canning). What a game changer, don't think I'll be going back to the stovetop canner very often!

  • @conichaney3875
    @conichaney3875 Před rokem +1

    Bought my new digital canner today is my first load. Wish me luck

  • @lonnimichael2814
    @lonnimichael2814 Před rokem +1

    I love my stove top presto, would love to have the electric one.

  • @lindabennett7172
    @lindabennett7172 Před rokem +2

    I love the Presto stove top! I can so much every year, have not tried meats yet. Wanting the Presto digital canner for Christmas. You and Julieanne have taught me so much. Thank you for teaching!

  • @mariayelruh
    @mariayelruh Před rokem +1

    I wouldn't buy an electric pressure canner, because one of the times I do the most canning is when the power is out and I want to can things that are in my freezer. I'm very happy with my All American 930 and my recent $75 yard sale find All American 941. Even though we are a small family, I don't like standing over a canner all day... unless the freezer has gone out.

  • @jessicad.2996
    @jessicad.2996 Před rokem +1

    the electric canner by #presto is genius!

  • @ayers879
    @ayers879 Před rokem +1

    I love my All American so much but you and another CZcamsr almost have me convinced to buy the #presto electric pressure canner!

  • @sherylgardiner7
    @sherylgardiner7 Před rokem +1

    Love the information!! Merry Christmas

  • @melhartig4102
    @melhartig4102 Před rokem +2

    Just dipped my toes into canning this past summer and am hooked. Have a Presto stovetop with the gauge but def have my eye on the digital. Our small garden barely produces enough to fill the stovetop one and it takes a lot of time for partially full.

  • @lauriegreer6836
    @lauriegreer6836 Před rokem +1

    I pressure can on induction cooktop, I have a hard time regulating the pressure because the heat increments are so sensitive. I end up with a lot of siphoned jars😐. I would love the digital pressure canner!

  • @TLStitches
    @TLStitches Před rokem +1

    I have been really curious about the #presto digital canner. Thanks for the review!

  • @madmecyr
    @madmecyr Před rokem +1

    Think I'd like to try that #presto electric canner. Less babysitting and possibly less syphoning? I love food preservation in general! We will not go hungry lol!

  • @erpung
    @erpung Před rokem +1

    Love my #presto stove too canner. Been thinking about getting an electric one. I’ve watched your videos using it and it looks super easy too. Thanks for your talk between the two. Thanks!

  • @charmedbycathy
    @charmedbycathy Před rokem +1

    I have never used a pressure canner. I have only done stove top water bath. Pickles and sand hill plum jelly is the two things I make. Pressure canning is something I would love to step up my game on preserving for my family.

  • @beckystallings1179
    @beckystallings1179 Před rokem +1

    I have an All American 921 pressure canner and I love it. However, I really want a Presto digital electric canner. It would be great on those days that there is a lot of canning to be done and you could use an extra canner, or just days that you have a million things to do and canning is one of them.

  • @riteshshahi156
    @riteshshahi156 Před rokem +1

    #presto , thanks you all.

  • @mommadseachoneteachone3711

    I have the stove top presto pc and love it … the electric canner would be amazing.. make things so much easier. When I can I have to can quarts for house, and pints for husband to take to work !!!

    • @HeartwayFarms
      @HeartwayFarms  Před 11 měsíci

      Yes, they are a great addition!
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  • @recess7018
    @recess7018 Před rokem +3

    As a certified Master Preserver I feel like I must clarify a few points concerning the Presto Electric Pressure Canner. Unfortunately, the Presto Electric Pressure Canner has NOT been properly tested and proven safe! I know that Presto makes all kinds of claims, but it has not been tested by an independent 3rd party. Presto includes misleading claims on their packaging like" meets USDA safe canning guidelines".. In fact it doesn't and UDSA does not approve any canner it's not part of what they do! Presto claims that it's an electric pressure canner that safely cans low-acid food...again this has not been proven by independent testing. I wish that Presto would pay for the independent testing...there are thousands of home canners that would love to use this appliance, but I'm not willing to take a chance with food safety for my family. Why wouldn't they be willing to go through the rigerous testing...unless they know it will fail. Until it is tested by someone other than Presto themselves I'll stick with my stove top Presto that I've used for years and years!

  • @bonniebien7137
    @bonniebien7137 Před rokem +1

    #presto canner is on my bucket list electric sounds so good 👍

  • @hollibrooke3644
    @hollibrooke3644 Před rokem

    I love my stove top presto canner. It has been used a ton! I like the idea of the electric canner freeing up my stove top. I may have to look into getting one.

  • @conichaney3875
    @conichaney3875 Před rokem +1

    Bought my lanterns ,I ordered the large be size and now I think I will order 3 of the smaller ones thank you for the info on them

    • @HeartwayFarms
      @HeartwayFarms  Před rokem

      They have been a great addition to our home :-)

  • @lisak.9357
    @lisak.9357 Před rokem +1

    We are new to canning last year and have the presto and love it but would like to get an electric one some day!

  • @monteapiechocki4588
    @monteapiechocki4588 Před rokem +1

    I love my Presto electric canner, it really is a game changer

  • @lorahhh2363
    @lorahhh2363 Před rokem +1

    I have had some reservations about the digital canner, but can certainly see the benefits of it and I'd give it try

  • @arunamall520
    @arunamall520 Před rokem +1

    I want to try an electric pressure canner. I like the idea of not have to stand and watch it constantly.

  • @debralynn6876
    @debralynn6876 Před rokem +1

    I love canning with my Presto pressure cooker we just used it the other night to do spaghetti sauce and it turned out amazing this is the first time I've ever heard of a digital pressure canner it looks amazing I like to try one of those thank you for showing it to us

  • @staceygarlick9674
    @staceygarlick9674 Před rokem +2

    This was my first summer with a good size garden and my first summer canning. I've only done water bath so far, but watching your videos has made me really want to try canning broth, chicken, and more. This summer I bought a #presto stovetop canner, but it feels intimidating so I've been hesitant to get started. A #presto electric canner is definitely on my wish list! I love the idea that it would walk me through the process!

  • @coupongal3219
    @coupongal3219 Před rokem +1

    Have seen the presto electric canners. I am interested.TFS,Happy Holidays.

  • @debbiesmith7151
    @debbiesmith7151 Před rokem +1

    #Presto would love to get one! Your family is amazing! 🎄❤️🎄have not started using one.

  • @christymiller6350
    @christymiller6350 Před rokem

    We have a stove top presto canner that does a great job! I didn't even know there was such a thing as electric canners, so thanks so much for the info! 😁

  • @BrendaJBarNett
    @BrendaJBarNett Před rokem

    #presto I've canned for 40+years in my stove top Presto. Currently because we have a glass top stove I use it on a stand alone hot plate. I'd love to have one of the electric digital canners.🥰

  • @jennygeorge6591
    @jennygeorge6591 Před rokem +1

    #presto electric canner is on my wish list. I started back canning with my Aunt after 30 years. We had so much fun together this summer from her very small garden and supporting our local farmers market. Really looking forward to the new season next year. 🎄🎄

  • @rowdoyoumakethebubblesr8200

    I have 2 of the large presto and electric Carey canner love them both sometimes all are in use together

  • @catracampolieto8989
    @catracampolieto8989 Před rokem

    I have a Presto 23 qt pressure canner. Never had an issue. I started canning last year. I love to grow and preserve.

  • @yvonnedaleo4486
    @yvonnedaleo4486 Před rokem

    I have been watching you guys for a while and you have convinced me to give canning a try. I have done simple things like applesauce but have never used pressure canners and would love to try it. Thanks for an awesome channel.

  • @crystalbritzman907
    @crystalbritzman907 Před rokem +1

    I have not started pressure canning yet. I have been water bath canning the last two years, but would like to take it to the next level of pressure canning. Love the review! Thank you.

  • @kathyword6236
    @kathyword6236 Před rokem +1

    #presto This has been my first year to can and started with the presto 23q. After seeing a lot of the other homesteaders comment how well that they love, love, love the Presto electric canner, I knew I needed one!

  • @marysidle5132
    @marysidle5132 Před rokem +1

    Love my stove top pressure canner, electric canner is on my bucket list!

  • @amyslushersutton1495
    @amyslushersutton1495 Před rokem +1

    I've had the #Presto canner in my Amazon wishlist for a while. Just saving up for it!

  • @jameshavenhomestead6055
    @jameshavenhomestead6055 Před rokem +1

    I've only ever used a water bath and have been wanting to try a pressure canner. I like the idea of the electric canner- definitely gonna check it out.

  • @cherylirvin3919
    @cherylirvin3919 Před rokem +1

    I’m canning right now with the Presto electric. I have used the stovetop presto for years. I researched a long time before buying the presto electric. I like it! I like the preset -follow the path directions and that the outside does not get so hot it burns you. I have only had the canner for a week but I am really testing it out on a variety of meats, vegetables, stocks and soups. I’d love to see even more of how you use it.

  • @victoriaallison-patrick2294

    Because of watching you I had to go buy the digital canner. It is a wonderful tool!!!!!

  • @brendaglanzman2066
    @brendaglanzman2066 Před rokem +1

    #presto the digital canner would be awesome.

  • @diannereynaert9729
    @diannereynaert9729 Před rokem +1

    I have your stovetop one. Works great! Digital would sure be nice too!

  • @cherylpresleigh6403
    @cherylpresleigh6403 Před rokem +1

    I used to can many years ago! Last year I picked it back up but only did water bath canning just like I did years ago. However, I knew that I was going to need to learn the pressure canning if I was going to be able to expand what I was able to can. Your channel and one other I watch faithfully spoke so highly of the Presto electric pressure canner that I did purchase one. Sadly, I have not yet used it nor have I used the regular pressure canner that I purchased used. I think it’s been because I was afraid but my winter ‘to do’ list includes stocking the panty with canned meat and ready to go meals so I will be using them in the very near future! I also feel like have the multiple options is very helpful with getting a lot done when you find yourself slammed with produce coming in all at the same time! Great series, thanks for sharing.
    #Presto

  • @patriciawatts3389
    @patriciawatts3389 Před rokem +1

    Just started canning with a presto canner for the first time this year. Still working on my technique. Next project will be turkey broth

  • @trenten33
    @trenten33 Před rokem +1

    i love when you canning and helping us. i have caned tuna on the #PRESTO caner i borrowed from a friend

  • @debc8402
    @debc8402 Před rokem +1

    I like the stove top but my memory is getting worse the older I get so the electric is the one I want to buy ;)