Kisi ne bhi nhi socha hoga itne saare changes k baare me specially the power and torque figures. Force Motors ne koi hype nhi create kari, na hi jaroorat se jyada test mules road pe utare, bas silently kaam karte rahe (action speaks louder than words). I hope this Gurkha gives tough competition to Thar.
Force has done a good job providing 138hp of power. 0-100kmph times has gone down from ~29 secs to now ~19secs. The Thar 3 door did it in 13.xx secs. And the new 5 door That will obviously get similar output as the scorpio, so it wont be any slower I think. I know the 0-100 isn't something a prospective Gurkha buyer will be looking at, but from what I have heard in the reviews its not great pulling overtakes even with this power, which is a bit surprising. I would have expected with 80Nm more, the roll-on would be much better. Anyways I will wait for full review to see that. My main concern is the lack of space in the middle row. Sure, you get a 7 seater and for some that may work. But majority will make use on only 5 seat. They could have at least provided a reclining and folding and tumbling bench seat mounted a lil further back. I think they need to do that to make it more practical. An AT could be offered I think. the Gear indicator only has D-N-R on it, no point having it in a manual car. They could be testing a TC transmission, who knows. And I think they should provided that as an option. A lot of buyers are moving to ATs for sheer comfort of driving in city. And if the GB has a cog or two extra, it could make a world of difference on long stretches no? It not about speed, but if it can do highway speeds are lower rpms ( its is torquey engine), it could save fuel too. The only concern now is the price. Genuine enthusiast will look at it from purpose POV, but the general public will weigh in the quality, fit & finish, NVH, comfort etc especially when the price goes north of 20Lacs. And these buyers are important cuz only sales will make sure Gurkha lives on to next iteration.
Namaste, Devesh ji. My father and I were looking at the Gurkha too when we were on the lookout for a new SUV to replace our Scorpio S6+ (2WD), and wanted to test drive the 91 bhp 3-door version. Unfortunately, the showroom was quite far away from where we live, and the dealer mentioned that Force had discontinued the Gurkha when BS6.2 (BS6 RDE) emission norms came into effect. That's actually the main reason why the Gurkha now comes with AdBlue to eliminate Nitrogen Oxide (NOx) emissions, and unlike what you had suggested in one of your replies to vetset3085's comments regarding the urea requirement, now even diesel engines smaller than 2 litres, such as the Kia-Hyundai 1.5 litre and the Mahindra 1.5 litre Thar/XUV300/3XO and Bolero Neo turbo-diesels now require AdBlue. There was another customer's Gurkha that we'd checked out, and he got the interior changed. We liked the interior room, but unfortunately couldn't ever understand how the Gurkha feels to drive. We ultimately went for a Scorpio-N 4x4, but still hold great curiosity and love for Force's unique SUV. I do hope that Force Motors will remedy the middle row of the 5-door Gurkha, because I think rear legroom will be non-existent if a person taller than 5' 8.5" (174 cm) drives the car. And I WANT Force Motors to act on it ASAP, because I know they did a lot of work in improving the Gurkha, and I WANT them to succeed in the passenger car division. But they need to quickly diversify their powertrains and not rely only on that 2.6 litre engine, because the company got fined by the government for not complying with Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) norms. I hope you're enjoying your Gurkha to the fullest, and I liked your "is saad ke saath main ghar pe kaam nahi kar sakta" 😂. Other than the tall height of the car, are there any other reasons why can't you use it as your daily driver?
For a family man 5 door gurkha is more practical. But force motors has badly messed the middle row. Neither the seats move back and forth nor they recline. Not even foldable with 60-40 split ratio. This mistake completly ruined the prime purpose of 5 door model. 3rd row is unnecessary. Nobody asked for a 7 seater 4x4. That space could have been used as boot space. Even if you badly wanted 3 rd row, they could have provided parallel foldable benches. 2nd row and primitive infotainment system are just blunder mistakes. Force walo, agar 2nd row seats ka aur wo bakwas nippon infotainment walonke sath agar contract sign nahi hua hai to badal do ye sab. Varna bure fasoge. Other than that, I absolutely love the vehicle.
Also agree about useless changing to rotary. They shouldve focussed more on ventilated seat and NOT providing any media center and other useless frills.
New 5 door gurkha ki Bearing wali problem ka update dena sir..... Mere sath asa n ho ki har 1000 km par mujhe bearing change karani pade.. Waiting for your Reply
Nice video as always. Glad that force had sorted out some of the major flaws. But still I wonder why force is always giving out half hearted approach to Gurkha. With proper planning, positioning and execution, this vehicle could become the iconic legendary g wagonish suv from india, to the world. If Thar or Roxor can come so far, why not gurkha! Force really needs to rethink their strategy with this vehicle.
Personally id want a better dash dials, yes the 4₹4 switch is a pain, takes away the whole feel of the mechanical 4*4 manly lever. The steering is way too commercial and no controls mounted too. Rest is livable, force needs to have more reach as no one wants to travel 100+ kms for a service alone. And reliability needs to be proven
Hello sir, I have been closely following the updates from Force on Gurkha on social media..... and your video on this upgrade was a much awaited help. Thankyou for your views. If I am not wrong, you already must have thought for a few swaps on your exiting gurkha with new updated parts.
Nice video sir❤❤ Very glad to see the changes in new Gurkha specially design of control arm power BHP.. What about our control arms can we flat them from force motor.. 🎉
Mr sharma you have very good knowledge related to Mechanic of Ic engines.. I think you are Mech or Marine fellow .. very well explained the Gurkha mechanism.❤ Keep it upp🎉
Hi I had a short drive in the vehicle last week and we found the it to be spacious and seats very comfortable to ride.Though the interiors are very basic, like the 2003 Maruti 800 that we recently sold, the vehicle on offer ticks most of the boxes on my list. The fly in the ointment is 4WD shifter that has been replaced with an electronic rotary knob. Besides the introduction of electronics into the mix, the plastic used for the knob is really a cheap quality. In this context, I am not into hardcore off road; the Gurkha will be used primarily for over landing and the 4WD will be used, when necessary, to reach my destination. I am aware that you are not happy with the introduction of the rotary shifter, but would you consider this to be a deal breaker, given my proposed usage? Will appreciate it if you share your thoughts.
I’m just nitpicking ! It’s perfect. The whole world is now using electronic shifters. We tend to compare with our BS6-1 Gurkhas that’s all, doesn’t make the new version any less appealing.
I think the bearings will work good this time as theh have tested this new vehicle a lot. As i stay in PUNE i have seen them a lot... Your review is good Keep it up
Bhaiya aap konse dealer se kaam krwate ho....Akhbara Chawki wale shi kaam krte hai kya....Also keep new Gurkha videos uploading.....waiting for your drive review....
Just after watching 1min 30 sec video I pressed the like n subscribe buttons cos what you are talking makes sense and you are technically sound too. Most reviewers rather suffer with more verbal diarrhoea and less knowledge.
@@amitu6570 thanks for the kind words. Most Gurkha owners are like that. The niggles make us read about the mechanicals. You’ll be surprised to see Trippacino channel. He’s the real goat.
कम्पनी से ही गाड़ी (बीएस६) या तो यूरिया के साथ आयेगी या LNT filter के साथ। हम कुछ नहीं कर सकते , बस सीखना पड़ेगा । छोटे डीज़ल इंजन गाड़ी बिना यूरिया के हैं और बड़े इंजन यूरिया के साथ।
@@deveshsharma_mountainshrink it will if you give it a try. I know exactly what you are saying. 😜 . I also had these sort of vehicle before. Isko retire Karo aur trouble free gaadi lo Thar or any capable 4x4😄 That will also have same level of Tashan and feel.
@@deveshsharma_mountainshrink mene dekha isko Scorpio n z4 Diesel 4*4 campare krke on paper toh bs 2 hazar ka farak hai but as a enthusiast real world compare karna zroori hai
Finally a review by someone who knows the Gurkha...
Sir it’s not a review, just an owner’s reaction! I’ll be reviewing it later.
Kisi ne bhi nhi socha hoga itne saare changes k baare me specially the power and torque figures. Force Motors ne koi hype nhi create kari, na hi jaroorat se jyada test mules road pe utare, bas silently kaam karte rahe (action speaks louder than words). I hope this Gurkha gives tough competition to Thar.
Force has done a good job providing 138hp of power. 0-100kmph times has gone down from ~29 secs to now ~19secs. The Thar 3 door did it in 13.xx secs. And the new 5 door That will obviously get similar output as the scorpio, so it wont be any slower I think. I know the 0-100 isn't something a prospective Gurkha buyer will be looking at, but from what I have heard in the reviews its not great pulling overtakes even with this power, which is a bit surprising. I would have expected with 80Nm more, the roll-on would be much better. Anyways I will wait for full review to see that. My main concern is the lack of space in the middle row. Sure, you get a 7 seater and for some that may work. But majority will make use on only 5 seat. They could have at least provided a reclining and folding and tumbling bench seat mounted a lil further back. I think they need to do that to make it more practical. An AT could be offered I think. the Gear indicator only has D-N-R on it, no point having it in a manual car. They could be testing a TC transmission, who knows. And I think they should provided that as an option. A lot of buyers are moving to ATs for sheer comfort of driving in city. And if the GB has a cog or two extra, it could make a world of difference on long stretches no? It not about speed, but if it can do highway speeds are lower rpms ( its is torquey engine), it could save fuel too. The only concern now is the price. Genuine enthusiast will look at it from purpose POV, but the general public will weigh in the quality, fit & finish, NVH, comfort etc especially when the price goes north of 20Lacs. And these buyers are important cuz only sales will make sure Gurkha lives on to next iteration.
This beast will be killing the thar now, hope that it'll not go common as thar. This machine should remain confined to the artists
The new 3door is a winner.
Namaste, Devesh ji. My father and I were looking at the Gurkha too when we were on the lookout for a new SUV to replace our Scorpio S6+ (2WD), and wanted to test drive the 91 bhp 3-door version. Unfortunately, the showroom was quite far away from where we live, and the dealer mentioned that Force had discontinued the Gurkha when BS6.2 (BS6 RDE) emission norms came into effect. That's actually the main reason why the Gurkha now comes with AdBlue to eliminate Nitrogen Oxide (NOx) emissions, and unlike what you had suggested in one of your replies to vetset3085's comments regarding the urea requirement, now even diesel engines smaller than 2 litres, such as the Kia-Hyundai 1.5 litre and the Mahindra 1.5 litre Thar/XUV300/3XO and Bolero Neo turbo-diesels now require AdBlue.
There was another customer's Gurkha that we'd checked out, and he got the interior changed. We liked the interior room, but unfortunately couldn't ever understand how the Gurkha feels to drive. We ultimately went for a Scorpio-N 4x4, but still hold great curiosity and love for Force's unique SUV. I do hope that Force Motors will remedy the middle row of the 5-door Gurkha, because I think rear legroom will be non-existent if a person taller than 5' 8.5" (174 cm) drives the car. And I WANT Force Motors to act on it ASAP, because I know they did a lot of work in improving the Gurkha, and I WANT them to succeed in the passenger car division. But they need to quickly diversify their powertrains and not rely only on that 2.6 litre engine, because the company got fined by the government for not complying with Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) norms.
I hope you're enjoying your Gurkha to the fullest, and I liked your "is saad ke saath main ghar pe kaam nahi kar sakta" 😂. Other than the tall height of the car, are there any other reasons why can't you use it as your daily driver?
Very important point 4x4 ka lever.👍👍👍
Most most most intelligent car owner..proud of you
Thanks for all the infos....👍🏻👍🏻
For a family man 5 door gurkha is more practical.
But force motors has badly messed the middle row. Neither the seats move back and forth nor they recline. Not even foldable with 60-40 split ratio. This mistake completly ruined the prime purpose of 5 door model.
3rd row is unnecessary. Nobody asked for a 7 seater 4x4. That space could have been used as boot space. Even if you badly wanted 3 rd row, they could have provided parallel foldable benches.
2nd row and primitive infotainment system are just blunder mistakes.
Force walo, agar 2nd row seats ka aur wo bakwas nippon infotainment walonke sath agar contract sign nahi hua hai to badal do ye sab. Varna bure fasoge.
Other than that, I absolutely love the vehicle.
Hope new gurkha doesnt have bearing failures every 5-10,000 kms.
And mileage is better than 8-9kmpl
Good information on Gurkha ... we want a detailed video on jimny too from you, sir ... waiting
Waiting to see 5 door Gurkha in your driveway doc sahib.
Kab le rahe hain? 🫡
Aapka poori story pata to hai… kyun taang khich rahe hain 🥲🥲🥲
@@deveshsharma_mountainshrink 🙂🙂🙂🫡🫡🫡
4.5 door to be precise 😅
@@velociraptor7110 😆😉 andar ki khabar hai!!
Thank you so much for your review. So much information brother❤❤
Agreed regarding the 4x4 lever and rim size
Also agree about useless changing to rotary.
They shouldve focussed more on ventilated seat and NOT providing any media center and other useless frills.
Tq bhai all technical information ❤❤❤❤❤❤
New 5 door gurkha ki Bearing wali problem ka update dena sir.....
Mere sath asa n ho ki har 1000 km par mujhe bearing change karani pade..
Waiting for your Reply
That seal is done up in new Gurkhal
Nicely explained doc sahab
Sirs, Thank you for your Best Real Review of Gurkha. Keep updating your Experience of Gurkha. 🚗👌👍
very well spoken. subscribed
Nice video as always. Glad that force had sorted out some of the major flaws. But still I wonder why force is always giving out half hearted approach to Gurkha. With proper planning, positioning and execution, this vehicle could become the iconic legendary g wagonish suv from india, to the world. If Thar or Roxor can come so far, why not gurkha! Force really needs to rethink their strategy with this vehicle.
They don't have the license to produce this design and manufacture that engine and sell it globally merc has given them licence only for Indian market
@@indianautomadz2651 My point wasn't about copying g wagen and selling it globally.
@@Safeer2.0 u mentioned raxor that's why I thought u meant that they should launch it globally.
Personally id want a better dash dials, yes the 4₹4 switch is a pain, takes away the whole feel of the mechanical 4*4 manly lever. The steering is way too commercial and no controls mounted too. Rest is livable, force needs to have more reach as no one wants to travel 100+ kms for a service alone. And reliability needs to be proven
Very well reviewed... I am on the edge of buying Gurkha. I hope your comments reaches Company feedback team
All the best
Was just searching for your opinion
Hello sir, I have been closely following the updates from Force on Gurkha on social media..... and your video on this upgrade was a much awaited help. Thankyou for your views. If I am not wrong, you already must have thought for a few swaps on your exiting gurkha with new updated parts.
No I’m not swapping anything, I like mine the way it is but new one is amazing in every aspect!
Nice video sir❤❤
Very glad to see the changes in new Gurkha specially design of control arm power BHP..
What about our control arms can we flat them from force motor.. 🎉
I don’t think we can, let’s see how those new ones hold up.
Higher springs and it will be as lift kit or proper lift kit and then control arms will be higher
Mr sharma you have very good knowledge related to Mechanic of Ic engines.. I think you are Mech or Marine fellow .. very well explained the Gurkha mechanism.❤ Keep it upp🎉
Thanks for the respect sir ! I’m just a curious one who likes to learn about these things. And I’m a doctor specialising in Psychiatry.
Hi I had a short drive in the vehicle last week and we found the it to be spacious and seats very comfortable to ride.Though the interiors are very basic, like the 2003 Maruti 800 that we recently sold, the vehicle on offer ticks most of the boxes on my list.
The fly in the ointment is 4WD shifter that has been replaced with an electronic rotary knob. Besides the introduction of electronics into the mix, the plastic used for the knob is really a cheap quality.
In this context, I am not into hardcore off road; the Gurkha will be used primarily for over landing and the 4WD will be used, when necessary, to reach my destination.
I am aware that you are not happy with the introduction of the rotary shifter, but would you consider this to be a deal breaker, given my proposed usage? Will appreciate it if you share your thoughts.
I’m just nitpicking ! It’s perfect. The whole world is now using electronic shifters. We tend to compare with our BS6-1 Gurkhas that’s all, doesn’t make the new version any less appealing.
5:55...fender wheel arch part width is doubled😍..looks wide from front
Yes, alloys have more outward offset as well as wider tires, and as you mentioned bigger wheel arch to accommodate that. Overall a wider stance
Does Engine heater available in new model?
Glow plus (heating coils) are there in all big diesel engines.
Really nice presentation and very insightful review ❤
Glad you liked it!
I think the bearings will work good this time as theh have tested this new vehicle a lot. As i stay in PUNE i have seen them a lot...
Your review is good
Keep it up
I feel if you use a good teflon grease on your bearings it should take care.
Let’s see, marine grade grease next time.
The engine concern by you is very right, but will it work as per you ?
It should ! The 125 bhp rating limit is for 10 lacks kms plus of commercial use, Gurkha would never be used that much.
Bhaiya aap konse dealer se kaam krwate ho....Akhbara Chawki wale shi kaam krte hai kya....Also keep new Gurkha videos uploading.....waiting for your drive review....
I get work done at Shoghi (Tapan Force); they are quite good.
#Forcemotors listen to this ....
Sir ji ur master
Middle row captian seats are missing..
sir , atleast upload the 1photo of the car
Sir this is my Gurkha, I haven’t driven the new one yet. Just sharing my reaction on the launch.🙏🏻
Gurkha lover like karo ❤
Just after watching 1min 30 sec video I pressed the like n subscribe buttons cos what you are talking makes sense and you are technically sound too. Most reviewers rather suffer with more verbal diarrhoea and less knowledge.
@@amitu6570 thanks for the kind words. Most Gurkha owners are like that. The niggles make us read about the mechanicals. You’ll be surprised to see Trippacino channel. He’s the real goat.
Us it 5 star safety?
Never tested!
Only one thing missing in this vehicle. - Reliablity .. due to poor components . Sold off mine due to this , else a great ride .. nothing like it .
Let’s hope they improve on parts, we ourselves are praying for that!
How much cost of parts and labour? Engine and gearbox reliability bad also?
Sunil Gurkha naam se ek CZcams channel hai waha se ye gaadi ka fame bana hai..
Wo Sunil Sir legend hain !🫡🫡🫡🫡 I used to watch his content all the time.
भाई यह बिना यूरिया के कैसे कर को चलाया जाता है एक बार हमें अच्छी तरह समझाइए क्या प्रक्रिया किया जाता है कि बिना उसे हम गाड़ी का प्रयोग कर सके
कम्पनी से ही गाड़ी (बीएस६) या तो यूरिया के साथ आयेगी या LNT filter के साथ। हम कुछ नहीं कर सकते , बस सीखना पड़ेगा । छोटे डीज़ल इंजन गाड़ी बिना यूरिया के हैं और बड़े इंजन यूरिया के साथ।
Why not just exchange it?
It’s not good for my needs, 90BHP engine has better bottom end pull for hills and we get snow here so add blue is a negative for winters.
Got a solution for your bearings. Will never fail. 800 RS only
Sealant ?? Like locktite. I’m planning that
@@deveshsharma_mountainshrink nope. Not loctite, but sure plz go ahead and share your review...! Maybe its better than my solution 🤞
या तो हिंदी मे बोल लो ya English mai
भाई ji 3 door मैं अपनी पत्नी के साथ अच्छी तरह ट्रेवल कर पाऊंगा क्या उनको कंफर्ट में कोई समस्या तो नहीं होगी क्या स्पेस की कोई कमी तो नहीं है
Bilkul kami nahi space ki, bas rear door se step uncha hai chadhne ke liye. Ek baar gaadi ke andar aa gaye fir no complaints!
@@deveshsharma_mountainshrink वह हमारी पत्नी डेली 3 4 km रनिंग करती है तो हमने उनको मजबूत बनाया हुआ है🤣🤣 tq भाई
Why so much hassle brother, go and buy Thar. Why so much justification.
Even Thar 5 door is on the way.
Can’t ! Thar doesn’t agree to our lifestyle.
@@deveshsharma_mountainshrink it will if you give it a try. I know exactly what you are saying. 😜 . I also had these sort of vehicle before. Isko retire Karo aur trouble free gaadi lo Thar or any capable 4x4😄
That will also have same level of Tashan and feel.
Pricing zada hai
Let’s see initial owners review and then we’ll have a clear idea if it’s worth or not.
@@deveshsharma_mountainshrink mene dekha isko Scorpio n z4 Diesel 4*4 campare krke on paper toh bs 2 hazar ka farak hai but as a enthusiast real world compare karna zroori hai
@@Abhishekpandey-ox9ff Scorpio-N Z4 4x4 mein front brake-lock differential (BLD) aur rear mechanical locking differential (MLD) nahi dete. BLD aur MLD sirf Z8 4x4 aur Z8L 4x4 mein milenge. Interior room, performance Scorpio-N mein zyada milega, par wo Gurkha jitna achha off-roader nahi hoga. Main bolunga ki BLD aur MLD ke saath bhi Scorpio-N ke saath savdhaani ke rakhke chalna theek rahega.
Kya command hai language pe or balla ki knowledge bas ghamand nahi hai