I’ve had my 335d just over a year. It’s running a modest stage 1 (370/700nm) with a XHP gearbox stage 2 map. The car still takes me by surprise with how quick it is. You do get used to it, which is always the way. 3rd snd 5th are great gears. Dropping from 8th to 5th when doing 60 is nuts! What an engine!
Now a 335D Xdrive with a stage 1 remap would be a weapon! It just lacks in the noise department sadly... but I’d definitely leave the badges on so people know not to even try 😂
Yeap agreed. Stage 1 remap would be great. As I mentioned this is stock but still pushing out 330hp. I found it very responsive and effortless to drive as a daily which is nice. It's sounds pretty good tbf for diesel too.
Had my 2016 335d stage 1 remapped about a year since so now 400bhp and 770Nm torque. I can honestly say that's been the best few hundred quid I've ever spent! Mostly now in Sport+ mode on straight roads. The straight line acceleration increase even from 50mph+ is blistering.
I’ve been running a F30 335d for nearly 5 years now. I’m really struggling to think of a car I would replace it with. The performance and economy are both incredible. In January this year I bought my wife a M140i shadow edition. Both stock cars. We have never bothered to find out which is faster as the M140i is clearly more responsive. Off the line the xdrive 335d does surprise a lot of other drivers. It’s great switching between the two.
Not in my experience. I’ve a stage one 335d with about 385bhp and the best I’ve managed on an average since it was mapped last week is 40mpg ish mixed driving. Best I saw first couple day’s mainly motorway driving was 44
My old 118d doesn't get 50mg and with a bit of traffic or "booting it" it dips below 40mpg very easily. Sometimes Diesel car owners really like to pat each other on the back and say all kinds of bullshit for some reason. You'll never see 40mpg on this unless you get on the M4 and set your cruise control to 60mph.
Ive recently bought a 335D x Drive. And can say without a doubt it is a fantastic car. I know it lacks in the sound department, but it is a great all rounder. Getting a remap next week and have been told to expect around 360hp & 700Nm of torque.... Don't forget this is a diesel.
Hi, I got the car remapped today. The actual output is 388hp & 783Nm (based on the rolling road at the tuners). Not had a chance to try it out yet due to the weather, but looking forward to giving it ago. IMO that's plenty for of punch.
You can go over 400bhp but the gearbox is rated at ¹700Nm. So a map to 370ish bhp takes you to the top end of the gearbox tolerance. Going past the 700Nm leaves you open to potential issues.
TeacherToolkitDemo its all over the forums,I wouldn’t go over 700Nm,the gearbox is awesome & I would be devastated plus a lot poorer if it started getting problems or worse
The 335d is a ridiculously good all rounder. 90% of the time it’ll be faster than the m140i in the U.K. due to our weather. Get it to stage two and it’s a serious quick bit of kit, especially off the line. I currently daily a 600bhp M5 competition pack but I’ll seriously consider a 335d touring when it’s time to be sensible (ish).
Chris D im mega jealous of your daily drive bro,I’ve watched a few vids on the M5 competition & it looks like an awesome whip. With 600bhp you’re in supercar territory.I bet there’s not much on the road that can match or beat the M5. Great choice of car mate😬
Electric Pulse thanks! It was my dream car for a long time, I still need to pinch myself when I step into it. They are bonkers quick in the dry. I had a play with an rs6 earlier today and was pushing it along. It’s going to be a hard car to replace!
Chris D I’ve been lucky enough to drive the F80 M3,the C63 AMG & a new RS3 BUT none of them had the power your motor has,all 3 of the above cars put a smile on my face though. It must be really difficult keeping a clean licence with your M5 competition though,The joys of having a supercar😀
One thing i always like about bmw. The power output on their engines are off the charts from factory. Then once its remapped its a demon on the road. I wish audi had the same on 3.0
I bought a 335D X Drive late last year, sure enough it was de-badged. I stuck the badges back on it but what a car it is. Never gets boring and only now after 9 months and around 24,000 miles the speed factor of how fast it pulls is starting to wear off, that said when you stick it into sports mode and put the gear selector into sport also it takes off like a rocket to the point where you get pushed back into your seat.
@@lukeskywalker1666 No doubt it would. Not a fan of the smaller car but that said I do like the new facelift models but they only do the M135i not the M140i in the facelift version. Quite happy with my 335D so far. Needs a good walnut blast and the run flats removed but otherwise decent enough. Just bought some 19 inch 442 style alloys to replace the 18 inch 400M Style alloys it has... look much better.
@@thefiestaguy8831 get it mapped XHP3 gearbox tune, down pipe, lowered with some spacers ur good to go, I got my 140i stage 2 with high pressure fuel pump, XHP3 gearbox map running just shy of 500bhp, all on stock internals.
Agree 100%,I put a set of ACS springs on plus wheel spacers.Transforms the car.These should’ve been fitted as standard The engine torque is mental pulling really low down & it was wasted on the standard springs
Really decent review, I’ve got a 335D Xdrive and it’s really incredible just how this thing pulls off the line.. I’ve left M2’s at the lights with ease using launch, take their time to catch up too !
1/4 mile around 12.4s it's a nice machine to drive it just doesn't sound like a 3 litre petrol 😔. I would love an xdrive M140i/M240i. Just remap to 420bhp and have an absolute animal. Have you seen the remapped M340i? They are doing 60mph in 3.5s and 1/4 mile in 11.4s lol. The new M3 is going to be insane. Those x3M are remapping to 630bhp 😂😂😂. Imagine that in a 3 series with awd 😳😳😳
A bit old but I liked this vid. I recently bought a 335d xdrive. I was going to get the M3 but decided xdrive was the way I wanted to go in the end. Had it mapped to 400bhp it’s plenty fast enough with the advantage of all wheel drive.
I’ve been offered a 330d touring Xdrive from 2015, and I don’t know what to do. The business in question is to change my 150hp petrol VW T-ROC (which I bought new 2 years ago and now has 70.000km) for the BMW (160.000km). What would u do?
335d with a stage 1 remap, gearbox remap, DPF & EGR delete is the all rounder. Would smoke most cars on the road and very good fuel economy. Let’s be honest these days though there’s too many cameras etc to even be ragging it too much. However the mix of performance and fuel economy makes this car an excellent all rounder
Did you bite the bullet? I'm also looking to do the same. But can't decide between a 335d or 330d. As I don't like xdrive , wish they would do a 335d without the xdrive. I prefer the pure handling from a rwd car
Been contemplating between these 2 for ages as my next car. Think the 335d debadged will be my choice for the sleeper look. Will defo intercooler plus remap tho should push 800nm and 390+bhp which is very attractive! Great video though very informative
Thanks for the comment. If you need practicality and more space than a M140i but still want performance then definitely the 335d. Other option is a 340i or 440i GC if you want petrol power. Check out the 440i MPPSK Vid. It dyno'd at 405hp!
@@DownShiftThrottle I really like the look of the 3 series. My dad had a 1 series and back seats are a but cramped with 3 people in. The 340i is around 2.5k more to buy but that b58 is an awesome motor. I dunno I keep going backwards and forwards on it. Either way it will be 1 of the above haha. I know the b58 is easy to tune but the 335d has x drive so can utilise all the power. But then again diesel is getting frowned upon in the uk. I still have no idea which to get lol
B58 engine is a powerhouse. It has diesel like torque delivery. Fuel wise 335d will be a little better but yes diesel is frowned up and costing 10p more per litre at the pumps so economy vs cost goes out the window. Personally I'd go B58 only because it's a very modern engine, N57 in the 335d has been around now for a while.
@@DownShiftThrottle Yeah your right there. Besides the noise is godly. On an eco long distance run what can you get out of ur m140? I don't mind it being bad on fuel when flooring it but defo need the economy on longer journeys
Both cars are awesome. However a petrol powered car with more bhp and less weight will always out drag a diesel powered car. The M140i has more BHP developed at higher RPM. The Diesel (although fast) runs out off puff once the torque is done at around 2500 rpm.
Thanks mate. Yes it was a worthwhile comparison as I know many people want something MORE practical after a M140i with AWD. The 335d Xdrive touring is great too.
@@DownShiftThrottle Yeah, I had a 335d XDrive Touring for a week as a hire car a couple of years ago. Loved it, felt very quick and handled well for such a big car. But difficult to tell how it stacks up against my current M240i because of the time between driving them both.
Good review - would be better to line up the 440i with 335d stock, would be very interesting as similar weight. Off the line 335d has got it. I have lowered my 335d xdrive even though i have adaptive, makes such a difference!
Tested a 330d and 335d (both F30) back to back and came away with the 330d. Just seemed much more exciting to drive mainly due to the single turbo so it gives a kick rather than the smooth power of the 335d but the 4wd on 335 just took away the driving pleasure for me. Had mine remapped and it will do the 1/4 mile in 13.3@106mph and will get 50mpg on a run. I think the 330d is the sweetspot of the range.
The 335d with twin turbo does feel more naturally aspirated as you get a smooth power delivery. 4wd for daily driving in all weather but I'm more of a rwd fan. BMW should always be Rwd
As can be seen in run 3 the M140i pulled it back in and kept gaining a lead. If that was an autobahn and if it was totally clear..... Would be interesting.....
Can’t make my mind up about these 2. I like the sound of one and the awd of the other. Also prefer the executive body over the hatch as I’ve owned several 3 series. How is fuel economy for both? Looking to get one later this year before upgrading to a 340i xdrive sometime next year
As an owner of a 335d xdrive I can tell you through experience that you don't rev one to over 4k rpm in a drag race........ You have an 8 speed paddle shift gearbox at your disposal which in sport + mode you should use when the revs hit 3k max! That way you stay in the power band per say and don't bog down until you hit way over 10pmph
Good vid. I had a bit of a race recently with a 2015 335d, which must have been remapped as I just couldn’t gain on it!! My M140i is still stock, so when I get the remap done it should be a bit of a monster! Anyone got the Superchips remap for the 140 yet? They’re claiming an extra 109hp.
👍🏽 see the important thing to note here is that both cars were running stock other than mine with M performance exhaust and lowering springs. If both were tuned then the outcome could be different either way....
Your 320d has lowered MSport springs hence will be harder than the stock 335d MSport with SE springs even with adaptive suspension. I changed my 335d springs out to Eibach and it rides same as any other 3 series MSport
@@DownShiftThrottle sorry only seeing this now. In UK the 335d was only available in Xdrive and every car came with SE springs. If you check out Kies Motorsport channel where he lowers his Xdrive and changes the camber, he breaks the drive shaft twice (one after the other). He reckons its to do with transfer box and so my only thoughts would be that BMW didnt want to risk warranty etc and installed SE springs but I have heard some dealers were offering the Eibach option upon delivery.
If you factor performance and running cost, the 35d wins because the b58 will only be marginally quicker but for how much more you have to spend fueling up your car all the time, its not worth the performance gain over the much cheaper to run diesel. If you want to factor fun and and overall driving experience then the b58 cars win because you cant beat the sound of a 6 cyl petrol engine revving up like how an engine should. Very hard decision to choose between the two tbh. If you barely do any miles a year perhaps the b58 car makes more sense otherwise you should probably get a 35d. I'm personally stuck between getting a 235i, 335d or 640d but can't make my mind up.
I’ve got a standard F30 335d & I’ve posted vids of it going,it’s no slouch & is definitely sub 5 seconds with launch control Contemplating getting it remapped because you do get used to the power plus I’m really curious of the real life power gains
I have had my F30 335d remapped to stage 1 is now running 405 bhp and 721nm. I am going Stage 2 later in the summer. Also going to have Inter cooler and Schnitzer springs fitted. Stage 2 i've been told to expect around 440 bhp.
@@cal1103 that is too much power for stage 1...car has 313 hp so you gain 80hp with stage 1...something smells bro...you should gain max 390 with stage 2 and then you need to buy intercooler and also you need to map gearbox coz of high torque
F335 do around 380/390bhp with a Wagner intercooler they can do as much as 400bhp on a stage 1. No point going stage 2 by removing the dpf the gains are very minimal compared to the E9x generation. Although some have done it but very very few.
Past 40-50mph unless you got a gazillion HP and its raining, 4x4 makes no difference. I have a 335d F30LCI and it is a weapon off the line and a match for an M140i all day long which Ive proved many times. Driver needs to be on the ball and in the right gear as response isn't as good as petrol! Be even better if X-drive was selectable on the move. On for launch, off as soon as back wheels hitch up 100% would be mega. Also needs dropping at least 30mm, roll and ride isnt too bad on standard X-drive SE suspension, but it pitches too much during hard accel or breaking, far too much for me! My only complaint!
Hi, I currently have a VW T-ROC, 150hp petrol. I bought it new and now has 70.000 km. The thing is that I wanted to switch it and a dealer has offered me to change it for a BMW 330d touring Xdrive, which is from 2015 and has 160.000km. I really like the BMW, but I’m not sure if it’s a good idea or not. What would you do? Thanks!
I've only raced one M140i in my F30 335d and embarrassed him. Saying that, mine is stage 2 remapped and producing over 400bhp. I love the fact it has m3 performance but still does over 50mpg if I can behave long enough!
Martin Bond hmmmm Are u sure about that ? I know a lad with a 435 D and his is tuned to 400 Bhp as well like yours and a stock M140i left him . I’m not doubting your story just saying there’s a lot of variables you have to consider etc. I also know someone with a M140i tuned to 430 Bhp ish And my S4 Which is no slouch by any stretch got wasted .
@@audirs142 All cars and all drivers are different so you will always get different outcomes. I've raced a c63amg and won comfortably and yet I know they should be beating me so either the car was high mileage and worn out, or the driver wasn't fully up for it. A work colleague of mine has an RS3 and we've had 5 or 6 races and they've all been neck and neck so I know my car is quick!
@@page938 Probably not a lot at all actually. It would be faster but it would hardly be night and day, and then a remapped M140i would be faster again.
Cant wait to get a f30 aiming for a 335d but would be happy with a 330d, ive been told must haves are pronav and hk sound system when buying, are xenons and lcd lights better than std halogens?
Was in the same boat and got the 330d as it drove better. Simple remap and you will be at 335d power. Heg one with the msport+ pack and the HK sounds system and you're sorted.
Excellent review, both cars have a lot of punch, as a former owner of 435d xdrive I did have some sprints with my brothers stock m3 non competion pack on the motorway, well within the speed limit lol, the m3 pulled away effortlessly in every gear. I initially thought that the higher torque will out do the bhp, sadly 35d engine runs out of steam at the higher revs.However xdrive does give you the confidence to plant your foot down in rain or shine, it seams like Bmw have listened to their customers, and are thinking of both rwd and xdrive options on the new M3, can't wait to try it out.
Thanks for your comment. You're spot on.... The M3 revs highly and also kicks down quicker due to MDCT box. Xdrive really does give you the confidence in corners and in wet. Check out my 320d v 420d GC xdrive Vid from last year.
More realistic is a rolling race and then see what wins I can guess unless you have a rs3 u are getting beat end of !!! Stock v stock not much beats the m140i my dad has a rs3 saloon I have a m140i and even though the rs3 is quicker there's not as much in it as I thought
We have gears so a car doesnt run out of puff, nothing against you but i hate it when people say this. The 140 is faster due to having more average power between shift points and thats all that matters along with weight/areo/gearing etc but in this case theyre pretty similar.
Diesels generally run out if puff by the time they hit 3.5-4k as their power delivery peaks much lower than petrol regardless of whichever gear you are in.
Once you hit around 4,000 RPM the Diesel you can feel the engine cutting off, you just wish the engine had more RPM to keep going, and that’s what the M140I has. Which is why in this race, the diesel was better initially due to all the torque and bhp coming early on, but with the M140I it required a bit more of a push to get the same peak performance. That being said, petrol engines usually have a lot less torque than the an M140I so I have seen stock 335D’s breeze past golf R’s etc.
@@DownShiftThrottle Ahh rip. Just finished watching the video, the cops watching your videos situation is scary as hell! People from the fb group who said that they keep an eye out on social media and YT weren't wrong 😬 This video's a good warning for those who tend to drive extremely recklessly and post it on here. Amazing video though mate, as always 😁
Thanks mate. To be honest as long as you stick to the limit and drive it's not an issue.... I hope anyway. I did ask the police officers if I could do a vlog on their 530d patrol car....they were down to earth officers to be honest.
Audi RS 435d deffo would've had a hard life if it couldnt keep up with an S4. Ive raced an S4 18 reg saloon rolling and stand still in my 335d and it was pretty close. 335 much quicker off the line due to the instant torque. Rolling pretty even. So either you're talking nonsense, your S4 is tuned, or the 435d was a shed! 👍
I had a race with a Audi RS4 (2021) the other day, with my 435D GC (2018) Stage 1, xHP Stage 3. From stand still up to 140 km/h (traffic) I was at least a car length quicker. I don't believe an S4 can outrun even a stock 435D. However, the difference between a stock 35d and Stage 1 (with xHP remap) is huge. It seems like the 435D owner was not into racing but just cruising along. When I do that I still get some GTi's, R32, AMG's and other stuf in all it's loudness beside me sometimes. They might think 'winning!', but I hardly touch the accelerator by one inch.
Thanks mate.... I think you meant N54? M140i is a nice sports hatch but yes it's small compared to a 3 series..... However it's not bad from practicality point....
DownShift Throttle I meant the m54 as in motorway in the midlands,looked very much like it on the video 😁 Once the kids have grown up a bit then the m40i is high up on the list 👌
DownShift Throttle Maybe so, but a tuner told me many of the dyno’s are a bit optimistic. That’s the reason why we find different figures on the same stages on the exact same car. But i am not an expert, so it could be the reason you Said as well. Anyway it’s a very Nice and Well explained video👍
@@jonaskristensen3066 There most definitely are a lot of very optimistic dynos out there. It comes down to customer demand people like it when their cars make spot on the official performance figures of even slightly better. One more reason why comparing figures across different dynos is pointless - even the same make and model of dyno in two different places can be calibrated differently. Dyno results are only worth anything when comparing two cars tested on the same exact dyno on the same day back to back, absolute figures are irrelevant they're only good for the relative comparison.
Its funny how you say you arent going over the national speed limit but from rolling you go full throttle for nearly 10 seconds in 2 cars that do 0-100mph in not much more than 10 seconds 😉 just saying.
I went from a m140i to a 335d which is now mapped to 409bhp. The 335 is worlds apart from the 140 as a whole package and once mapped it leaves the 140 for dead
@@adamp3302 dont get me wrong im sure 335d's are tons of fun but you just cant compare it to a modern petrol engine when it comes to power delivery. that said if i were to buy a diesel, id go 335d as well thats for sure
Well the 335d is xdrive so off the mark it would be quicker, I can rev out to 7k so can keep in the torque/power range for longer and that's where I pulled away....
Ninja Geezer in the uk , 4wd is king. The 335d is a better car overall as you can use its power in all weather conditions. In the M140i, u have to be very careful. In the wet, Its practically useless. The 335d has no issues here.ive driven both 👍
There’s nothing wuss than a bosted splitter,is there, yo am smiling like a Cheshire Cat,when yo say sleeper car what’s that, dun yo kip in it? surly not. Not sure about yo pulling in it hay that called doggin especially if officer r watchin,who yo tryin to kid when yo say yo do speed we bay saft so do trayt us like weem saft. Please.
140i will always win as the 335d can’t rev over 5000 and even if you map it you can bring it from 0 not form 30, 3rd gear on 140i and 7500rpm it’s gone
I’ve had my 335d just over a year. It’s running a modest stage 1 (370/700nm) with a XHP gearbox stage 2 map. The car still takes me by surprise with how quick it is. You do get used to it, which is always the way. 3rd snd 5th are great gears. Dropping from 8th to 5th when doing 60 is nuts! What an engine!
@@Anatolia0827 no
Reliable cars? Any issues ?
Now a 335D Xdrive with a stage 1 remap would be a weapon! It just lacks in the noise department sadly... but I’d definitely leave the badges on so people know not to even try 😂
Yeap agreed. Stage 1 remap would be great. As I mentioned this is stock but still pushing out 330hp. I found it very responsive and effortless to drive as a daily which is nice. It's sounds pretty good tbf for diesel too.
Had my 2016 335d stage 1 remapped about a year since so now 400bhp and 770Nm torque. I can honestly say that's been the best few hundred quid I've ever spent! Mostly now in Sport+ mode on straight roads. The straight line acceleration increase even from 50mph+ is blistering.
@@dangosypethau where?
@@wilspu5590 Celtic Tuning
@@dangosypethau 👍
I’ve been running a F30 335d for nearly 5 years now. I’m really struggling to think of a car I would replace it with. The performance and economy are both incredible. In January this year I bought my wife a M140i shadow edition. Both stock cars. We have never bothered to find out which is faster as the M140i is clearly more responsive. Off the line the xdrive 335d does surprise a lot of other drivers. It’s great switching between the two.
Its a tough one - you could go and upgrade to the X3 M40d. Essentially a bigger, newer car than the F30 335d.
SUV no thanks
@@boblambert7889 m3 G20 could surprise your fr
Which ended up been the best one in the end ?
Forgive me if I missed you mentioning it but 335d will give you that performance with 50mpg aswell or around 40mpg even when booting it, class car
Not in my experience. I’ve a stage one 335d with about 385bhp and the best I’ve managed on an average since it was mapped last week is 40mpg ish mixed driving. Best I saw first couple day’s mainly motorway driving was 44
@@joevtr any update on town mpg?
You will struggle to even get 30mpg when planting the right foot so don’t be disillusioned. You will never see 50mpg regardless of road conditions etc
My old 118d doesn't get 50mg and with a bit of traffic or "booting it" it dips below 40mpg very easily.
Sometimes Diesel car owners really like to pat each other on the back and say all kinds of bullshit for some reason. You'll never see 40mpg on this unless you get on the M4 and set your cruise control to 60mph.
@@BigUriel It's not that deep sergio
Ive recently bought a 335D x Drive. And can say without a doubt it is a fantastic car. I know it lacks in the sound department, but it is a great all rounder. Getting a remap next week and have been told to expect around 360hp & 700Nm of torque.... Don't forget this is a diesel.
To be honest you'll probably push more than 360hp. This one already was pushing 330hp stock and 660Nm torque.
That's poor for a stage 1 remap should be looking at around 390/400bhp and 750/800nm of torque. My E90 335d has 386bhp and 826lbs of torque
Hi, I got the car remapped today. The actual output is 388hp & 783Nm (based on the rolling road at the tuners). Not had a chance to try it out yet due to the weather, but looking forward to giving it ago. IMO that's plenty for of punch.
You can go over 400bhp but the gearbox is rated at ¹700Nm. So a map to 370ish bhp takes you to the top end of the gearbox tolerance. Going past the 700Nm leaves you open to potential issues.
TeacherToolkitDemo its all over the forums,I wouldn’t go over 700Nm,the gearbox is awesome & I would be devastated plus a lot poorer if it started getting problems or worse
Bought a 340i yesterday. This video definitely helped me out. B58 sounds insane 3 series is practical and comfortable win win :)
Enjoy the car sir! B58 sounds awesome!
@@DownShiftThrottle it does! What I didn't expect was 80mile drive back averaged over 52mpg! I was like what that can't be right haha
@@johnjackson12 very good mpg.... I don't get more than 42mpg on motorway....
@@DownShiftThrottle Doesnt sound as good as the N55 though!
@@RSTurbo50 but its hell alot faster then the outdated old N55
The 335d is a ridiculously good all rounder. 90% of the time it’ll be faster than the m140i in the U.K. due to our weather. Get it to stage two and it’s a serious quick bit of kit, especially off the line. I currently daily a 600bhp M5 competition pack but I’ll seriously consider a 335d touring when it’s time to be sensible (ish).
There is never a time to be sensible. 😜
TeacherToolkitDemo you’re right. It’s going to be a very sad day when my M5 needs to go ☹️
Chris D im mega jealous of your daily drive bro,I’ve watched a few vids on the M5 competition & it looks like an awesome whip.
With 600bhp you’re in supercar territory.I bet there’s not much on the road that can match or beat the M5.
Great choice of car mate😬
Electric Pulse thanks! It was my dream car for a long time, I still need to pinch myself when I step into it. They are bonkers quick in the dry. I had a play with an rs6 earlier today and was pushing it along. It’s going to be a hard car to replace!
Chris D I’ve been lucky enough to drive the F80 M3,the C63 AMG & a new RS3 BUT none of them had the power your motor has,all 3 of the above cars put a smile on my face though.
It must be really difficult keeping a clean licence with your M5 competition though,The joys of having a supercar😀
Another great review mate, petrol all day for me, only way he'd catch you is when the M140 runs out of fuel first! 😂
😂 yes that's true.... One downside of a petrol is you do see the needle move....
What about in rain? Where m140i gna be? Getting smaller in my rear view mirror
@@eatdahl :'D
@@eatdahl haha
My stage 1 f31 335d id identical to a stock 140 , but would beat it off the line im sure and stay in front .
Great job on this video man! It was solid!!
Thanks for the comment and nice words!
Really nice spec I like it. Very cool that the coppers watch your content, nice one Mo 👍🏻
👍🏽 thanks Nick. They were pretty sound and very down to earth.
I have a 530d RWD 2017 22k miles tuned stage one 300bhp 700 nm and I love it.
Stage 1 m140i 425bhp
One thing i always like about bmw. The power output on their engines are off the charts from factory. Then once its remapped its a demon on the road. I wish audi had the same on 3.0
That’s why mines on a stage 1 380 bhp it’s made a massive amount of performance
I bought a 335D X Drive late last year, sure enough it was de-badged. I stuck the badges back on it but what a car it is. Never gets boring and only now after 9 months and around 24,000 miles the speed factor of how fast it pulls is starting to wear off, that said when you stick it into sports mode and put the gear selector into sport also it takes off like a rocket to the point where you get pushed back into your seat.
Then u need to try m140i pushes u back harder in the seat
@@lukeskywalker1666 No doubt it would. Not a fan of the smaller car but that said I do like the new facelift models but they only do the M135i not the M140i in the facelift version.
Quite happy with my 335D so far. Needs a good walnut blast and the run flats removed but otherwise decent enough. Just bought some 19 inch 442 style alloys to replace the 18 inch 400M Style alloys it has... look much better.
@@thefiestaguy8831 get it mapped XHP3 gearbox tune, down pipe, lowered with some spacers ur good to go, I got my 140i stage 2 with high pressure fuel pump, XHP3 gearbox map running just shy of 500bhp, all on stock internals.
The 335d has some legs.
Certainly is no slow car.....
I own a 335d touring. Awesome bit of kit. You need to get the ACS springs. A must.
Agree 100%,I put a set of ACS springs on plus wheel spacers.Transforms the car.These should’ve been fitted as standard
The engine torque is mental pulling really low down & it was wasted on the standard springs
What’s ACS SPRINGS?
Really decent review, I’ve got a 335D Xdrive and it’s really incredible just how this thing pulls off the line.. I’ve left M2’s at the lights with ease using launch, take their time to catch up too !
Very decent car with high performance and decent economy too!
Remap it and it's an absolute animal. My 435d had 380bhp and well over 700Nm and it's a beast. Does 60mph in 3.9s using gps lol.
TeacherToolkitDemo Bloody hell thats quick
1/4 mile around 12.4s it's a nice machine to drive it just doesn't sound like a 3 litre petrol 😔. I would love an xdrive M140i/M240i. Just remap to 420bhp and have an absolute animal. Have you seen the remapped M340i? They are doing 60mph in 3.5s and 1/4 mile in 11.4s lol. The new M3 is going to be insane. Those x3M are remapping to 630bhp 😂😂😂. Imagine that in a 3 series with awd 😳😳😳
top video, great editing. enjoyed filming this
Thank you for helping me out. Without you this Vid was not possible! Legend!
Best Vlog yet Mo. Love the bit about the Police, you’re Famous now.
Bit worried Jase.... I'm being followed by the force! 😂
A bit old but I liked this vid. I recently bought a 335d xdrive. I was going to get the M3 but decided xdrive was the way I wanted to go in the end. Had it mapped to 400bhp it’s plenty fast enough with the advantage of all wheel drive.
I’ve been offered a 330d touring Xdrive from 2015, and I don’t know what to do. The business in question is to change my 150hp petrol VW T-ROC (which I bought new 2 years ago and now has 70.000km) for the BMW (160.000km). What would u do?
335d with a stage 1 remap, gearbox remap, DPF & EGR delete is the all rounder. Would smoke most cars on the road and very good fuel economy. Let’s be honest these days though there’s too many cameras etc to even be ragging it too much. However the mix of performance and fuel economy makes this car an excellent all rounder
And swap it to a 340i enginge
@@steineins yeah be prepared to fill it up twice a week
@@Breadstar90 a 335d with stage 1 is easy by 10 L my 420d needs 7 L on 100 km
@@Breadstar90 how much would that cost roughly?
@@RM-gk2ck 1000-1200 from a reputable tuner
I've got a e90 335d looking to get 1 like this next. Love these cars
Did you bite the bullet? I'm also looking to do the same. But can't decide between a 335d or 330d. As I don't like xdrive , wish they would do a 335d without the xdrive. I prefer the pure handling from a rwd car
@@MrBulletpoint it can be turned off to rwd with xhp app
EXCELLENT review. you are a natural at presenting! Sort out a pro mic and you'll kill it 👍
OK, the 335d has more pork than the 140i. Great video by the way!!
Even though this is a very nice comparison, a comparison with a 335i would be nice as well! ❤️
Ok....will do my best.
Love the gas mileage I get on the 335d
Best of both....reasonably economic and lots of torque.....but my M140i was faster hahaha
Been contemplating between these 2 for ages as my next car. Think the 335d debadged will be my choice for the sleeper look. Will defo intercooler plus remap tho should push 800nm and 390+bhp which is very attractive! Great video though very informative
Thanks for the comment. If you need practicality and more space than a M140i but still want performance then definitely the 335d. Other option is a 340i or 440i GC if you want petrol power. Check out the 440i MPPSK Vid. It dyno'd at 405hp!
@@DownShiftThrottle I really like the look of the 3 series. My dad had a 1 series and back seats are a but cramped with 3 people in. The 340i is around 2.5k more to buy but that b58 is an awesome motor. I dunno I keep going backwards and forwards on it. Either way it will be 1 of the above haha. I know the b58 is easy to tune but the 335d has x drive so can utilise all the power. But then again diesel is getting frowned upon in the uk. I still have no idea which to get lol
B58 engine is a powerhouse. It has diesel like torque delivery. Fuel wise 335d will be a little better but yes diesel is frowned up and costing 10p more per litre at the pumps so economy vs cost goes out the window. Personally I'd go B58 only because it's a very modern engine, N57 in the 335d has been around now for a while.
@@DownShiftThrottle Yeah your right there. Besides the noise is godly. On an eco long distance run what can you get out of ur m140? I don't mind it being bad on fuel when flooring it but defo need the economy on longer journeys
On a longish motorway journey you'll get 40+ mpg. Depending on how you're driving.
Birmingham gangg k4by💯💯
High kerbs are the enemy of splitters
I've no idea mate, I just take the bus when it rains. .. 😂
LMAO
Looking to get a 335 touring soon. The main advantage with the x drive is you can plant that power all year round rain or shine.
Just doesn't stop you any faster👍
Both cars are awesome. However a petrol powered car with more bhp and less weight will always out drag a diesel powered car. The M140i has more BHP developed at higher RPM. The Diesel (although fast) runs out off puff once the torque is done at around 2500 rpm.
why not race from 0 to 60? i think it would definitely be a different outcome!
It's all about in gear pull. Also to do a 0-60 I wouldn't do that on a public road.
@@DownShiftThrottle its a very good video and i think its great to see two very fast cars being highlighted
My dream garage on wheels
I have often wondered how the 335d stacks up against an MX40i. Interesting VLog 👍🏼 outcome is pretty much as expected.
Thanks mate. Yes it was a worthwhile comparison as I know many people want something MORE practical after a M140i with AWD. The 335d Xdrive touring is great too.
@@DownShiftThrottle Yeah, I had a 335d XDrive Touring for a week as a hire car a couple of years ago. Loved it, felt very quick and handled well for such a big car. But difficult to tell how it stacks up against my current M240i because of the time between driving them both.
Good review - would be better to line up the 440i with 335d stock, would be very interesting as similar weight. Off the line 335d has got it. I have lowered my 335d xdrive even though i have adaptive, makes such a difference!
Diesels like a smoke train 🚂
Tested a 330d and 335d (both F30) back to back and came away with the 330d. Just seemed much more exciting to drive mainly due to the single turbo so it gives a kick rather than the smooth power of the 335d but the 4wd on 335 just took away the driving pleasure for me. Had mine remapped and it will do the 1/4 mile in 13.3@106mph and will get 50mpg on a run. I think the 330d is the sweetspot of the range.
The 335d with twin turbo does feel more naturally aspirated as you get a smooth power delivery. 4wd for daily driving in all weather but I'm more of a rwd fan. BMW should always be Rwd
The 335d is way more heavier and that's make a huge difference. A stage 1 335d will smoke any 40is 35is
And a remapped 140i will smoke a stage 1 335d xdrive so a pointless comment really🤷♂️
M140 is restricted in the first 3 gears unless its remapped, hence the pickup at about 80 :-D
M140i wins all day long. At faster speeds the M140i would just keep pulling further and further ahead.
As can be seen in run 3 the M140i pulled it back in and kept gaining a lead. If that was an autobahn and if it was totally clear..... Would be interesting.....
Can’t make my mind up about these 2. I like the sound of one and the awd of the other. Also prefer the executive body over the hatch as I’ve owned several 3 series. How is fuel economy for both? Looking to get one later this year before upgrading to a 340i xdrive sometime next year
Check my long term review Vid and the mpg Vid on the M140i. 335d has averaged 28mpg but the owner drives it hard.
As an owner of a 335d xdrive I can tell you through experience that you don't rev one to over 4k rpm in a drag race........
You have an 8 speed paddle shift gearbox at your disposal which in sport + mode you should use when the revs hit 3k max! That way you stay in the power band per say and don't bog down until you hit way over 10pmph
Good vid. I had a bit of a race recently with a 2015 335d, which must have been remapped as I just couldn’t gain on it!! My M140i is still stock, so when I get the remap done it should be a bit of a monster! Anyone got the Superchips remap for the 140 yet? They’re claiming an extra 109hp.
👍🏽 see the important thing to note here is that both cars were running stock other than mine with M performance exhaust and lowering springs. If both were tuned then the outcome could be different either way....
Your 320d has lowered MSport springs hence will be harder than the stock 335d MSport with SE springs even with adaptive suspension. I changed my 335d springs out to Eibach and it rides same as any other 3 series MSport
Why would the 335d M Sport have SE springs....?
It's correct and they're way too soft.
@@DownShiftThrottle sorry only seeing this now. In UK the 335d was only available in Xdrive and every car came with SE springs. If you check out Kies Motorsport channel where he lowers his Xdrive and changes the camber, he breaks the drive shaft twice (one after the other). He reckons its to do with transfer box and so my only thoughts would be that BMW didnt want to risk warranty etc and installed SE springs but I have heard some dealers were offering the Eibach option upon delivery.
If you factor performance and running cost, the 35d wins because the b58 will only be marginally quicker but for how much more you have to spend fueling up your car all the time, its not worth the performance gain over the much cheaper to run diesel. If you want to factor fun and and overall driving experience then the b58 cars win because you cant beat the sound of a 6 cyl petrol engine revving up like how an engine should. Very hard decision to choose between the two tbh. If you barely do any miles a year perhaps the b58 car makes more sense otherwise you should probably get a 35d. I'm personally stuck between getting a 235i, 335d or 640d but can't make my mind up.
Put it this way.... If you live in an upcoming congestion charge in Birmingham then the B58 definitely wins over a pre 2015 335d
@@DownShiftThrottle all F30 335d's are Euro 6 Compliant. :P
I still don't get why the bham congestion charge is stating diesel from 2015 when I know that certain pre 2015 diesel cars will be compliant....
I’ve got a standard F30 335d & I’ve posted vids of it going,it’s no slouch & is definitely sub 5 seconds with launch control
Contemplating getting it remapped because you do get used to the power plus I’m really curious of the real life power gains
I have had my F30 335d remapped to stage 1 is now running 405 bhp and 721nm. I am going Stage 2 later in the summer. Also going to have Inter cooler and Schnitzer springs fitted. Stage 2 i've been told to expect around 440 bhp.
@@cal1103 that is too much power for stage 1...car has 313 hp so you gain 80hp with stage 1...something smells bro...you should gain max 390 with stage 2 and then you need to buy intercooler and also you need to map gearbox coz of high torque
F335 do around 380/390bhp with a Wagner intercooler they can do as much as 400bhp on a stage 1. No point going stage 2 by removing the dpf the gains are very minimal compared to the E9x generation. Although some have done it but very very few.
Great vlog
Thanks mate! 👍🏽 👍🏽
Past 40-50mph unless you got a gazillion HP and its raining, 4x4 makes no difference.
I have a 335d F30LCI and it is a weapon off the line and a match for an M140i all day long which Ive proved many times. Driver needs to be on the ball and in the right gear as response isn't as good as petrol!
Be even better if X-drive was selectable on the move. On for launch, off as soon as back wheels hitch up 100% would be mega. Also needs dropping at least 30mm, roll and ride isnt too bad on standard X-drive SE suspension, but it pitches too much during hard accel or breaking, far too much for me! My only complaint!
Hi, I currently have a VW T-ROC, 150hp petrol. I bought it new and now has 70.000 km. The thing is that I wanted to switch it and a dealer has offered me to change it for a BMW 330d touring Xdrive, which is from 2015 and has 160.000km. I really like the BMW, but I’m not sure if it’s a good idea or not. What would you do?
Thanks!
I'd honesty buy a facelift 2017 model at least.
Were all the races in 4th gear or did you drop to 3rd for the 30 mph races?
I've only raced one M140i in my F30 335d and embarrassed him. Saying that, mine is stage 2 remapped and producing over 400bhp. I love the fact it has m3 performance but still does over 50mpg if I can behave long enough!
Martin Bond hmmmm Are u sure about that ? I know a lad with a 435 D and his is tuned to 400 Bhp as well like yours and a stock M140i left him . I’m not doubting your story just saying there’s a lot of variables you have to consider etc. I also know someone with a M140i tuned to 430 Bhp ish And my S4 Which is no slouch by any stretch got wasted .
@@audirs142 All cars and all drivers are different so you will always get different outcomes. I've raced a c63amg and won comfortably and yet I know they should be beating me so either the car was high mileage and worn out, or the driver wasn't fully up for it. A work colleague of mine has an RS3 and we've had 5 or 6 races and they've all been neck and neck so I know my car is quick!
where was the bluespark do you still run it ? and what setting you on.
Would you say the 335d is the ultimate sleeper ?
Lol... I'm too biased... That title goes to the M140i....
DownShift Throttle 👍🏻
Good video as usual!
How much faster would you say a remapped 335d would be compared to a standard m140i?
A lot.
@@page938 Probably not a lot at all actually. It would be faster but it would hardly be night and day, and then a remapped M140i would be faster again.
Cant wait to get a f30 aiming for a 335d but would be happy with a 330d, ive been told must haves are pronav and hk sound system when buying, are xenons and lcd lights better than std halogens?
Lol check out my vid on HID conversion.....you'll find that interesting.
Was in the same boat and got the 330d as it drove better. Simple remap and you will be at 335d power. Heg one with the msport+ pack and the HK sounds system and you're sorted.
Great vid Cheers :-)
Thank you for watching! 👍🏽
Excellent review, both cars have a lot of punch, as a former owner of 435d xdrive I did have some sprints with my brothers stock m3 non competion pack on the motorway, well within the speed limit lol, the m3 pulled away effortlessly in every gear. I initially thought that the higher torque will out do the bhp, sadly 35d engine runs out of steam at the higher revs.However xdrive does give you the confidence to plant your foot down in rain or shine, it seams like Bmw have listened to their customers, and are thinking of both rwd and xdrive options on the new M3, can't wait to try it out.
Thanks for your comment. You're spot on.... The M3 revs highly and also kicks down quicker due to MDCT box. Xdrive really does give you the confidence in corners and in wet. Check out my 320d v 420d GC xdrive Vid from last year.
i remapped my 435d and its a completely different car.
What spoiler is that on the 335d mate?
Just an ebay special I think.
More realistic is a rolling race and then see what wins I can guess unless you have a rs3 u are getting beat end of !!! Stock v stock not much beats the m140i my dad has a rs3 saloon I have a m140i and even though the rs3 is quicker there's not as much in it as I thought
They aren’t too far away 0-60 from each other,in real life this can be literally a car length ahead
I was wondering where you had got to Mo. The M140 is some car tho pal.
Thanks mate. Yea the M140i is great car!
We have gears so a car doesnt run out of puff, nothing against you but i hate it when people say this. The 140 is faster due to having more average power between shift points and thats all that matters along with weight/areo/gearing etc but in this case theyre pretty similar.
Diesels generally run out if puff by the time they hit 3.5-4k as their power delivery peaks much lower than petrol regardless of whichever gear you are in.
Once you hit around 4,000 RPM the Diesel you can feel the engine cutting off, you just wish the engine had more RPM to keep going, and that’s what the M140I has. Which is why in this race, the diesel was better initially due to all the torque and bhp coming early on, but with the M140I it required a bit more of a push to get the same peak performance. That being said, petrol engines usually have a lot less torque than the an M140I so I have seen stock 335D’s breeze past golf R’s etc.
that xdrive is strange..i tried several models and in the end i went for 435i coupe...this xdrive is not bmw's best thing...
Love all bmw😍❤❤🔒
Check my vids.....mostly BMW lol
Torque torque the car With more BHP will be quicker regardless of torque for a given weight same gearbox tires ect ect
Man, big shame about that broken splitter. Would you say it's likely to happen if the car's not lowered?
You might get away with it if it's not lowered. Didn't help that the was a pothole in front of the speed bump though
@@DownShiftThrottle Ahh rip. Just finished watching the video, the cops watching your videos situation is scary as hell! People from the fb group who said that they keep an eye out on social media and YT weren't wrong 😬 This video's a good warning for those who tend to drive extremely recklessly and post it on here. Amazing video though mate, as always 😁
Thanks mate. To be honest as long as you stick to the limit and drive it's not an issue.... I hope anyway. I did ask the police officers if I could do a vlog on their 530d patrol car....they were down to earth officers to be honest.
@@DownShiftThrottle Yep that's true. And yeah haha, lots of respect to those officers 😆
I am not lowered and touch wood not had any issues 🙂
335d stage 2 looking at 420 bhp
M140i is a beast I had a race with a 435 D x drive in my S4 B9 and I left him. He couldn’t keep up.
Audi RS 435d deffo would've had a hard life if it couldnt keep up with an S4. Ive raced an S4 18 reg saloon rolling and stand still in my 335d and it was pretty close. 335 much quicker off the line due to the instant torque. Rolling pretty even. So either you're talking nonsense, your S4 is tuned, or the 435d was a shed! 👍
imyk 611 no he definitely couldn’t keep up got wasted
imyk 611 bshit the 0-60 time is much faster on an S4.
imyk 611 if you Don’t believe me fair enough but CZcams videos of both cars 0-200 prove an S4 B9 is 3-4 secs quicker
I had a race with a Audi RS4 (2021) the other day, with my 435D GC (2018) Stage 1, xHP Stage 3. From stand still up to 140 km/h (traffic) I was at least a car length quicker. I don't believe an S4 can outrun even a stock 435D. However, the difference between a stock 35d and Stage 1 (with xHP remap) is huge.
It seems like the 435D owner was not into racing but just cruising along. When I do that I still get some GTi's, R32, AMG's and other stuf in all it's loudness beside me sometimes. They might think 'winning!', but I hardly touch the accelerator by one inch.
Own both, albeit m240i. 335d is great but the engine pales in comparison to the b58 imo.
i agree i have a tweaked M240i and its a monster when you want it to be,std it would always pull on an M2
Good old m54 lol
I’ve got a 335d and seriously considered swapping it for a m40i,but size put me off
Great video 👍
Thanks mate.... I think you meant N54? M140i is a nice sports hatch but yes it's small compared to a 3 series..... However it's not bad from practicality point....
DownShift Throttle I meant the m54 as in motorway in the midlands,looked very much like it on the video 😁
Once the kids have grown up a bit then the m40i is high up on the list 👌
Lol hah.... M54.... No this was some other place. M54 not safe to do this s kinda stuff... 😂.
The dyno proberly need calibration. BMW are known to be accurate in there power estimate.
You'll find that most BMW's are understated on stock figures....
DownShift Throttle
Maybe so, but a tuner told me many of the dyno’s are a bit optimistic. That’s the reason why we find different figures on the same stages on the exact same car. But i am not an expert, so it could be the reason you Said as well. Anyway it’s a very Nice and Well explained video👍
@@jonaskristensen3066 There most definitely are a lot of very optimistic dynos out there. It comes down to customer demand people like it when their cars make spot on the official performance figures of even slightly better.
One more reason why comparing figures across different dynos is pointless - even the same make and model of dyno in two different places can be calibrated differently. Dyno results are only worth anything when comparing two cars tested on the same exact dyno on the same day back to back, absolute figures are irrelevant they're only good for the relative comparison.
Its funny how you say you arent going over the national speed limit but from rolling you go full throttle for nearly 10 seconds in 2 cars that do 0-100mph in not much more than 10 seconds 😉 just saying.
Really.....shhhhh
All is stock ?
Yes
What year is the 335 mate ?
I believe it was a 2013 pre-lci
I went from a m140i to a 335d which is now mapped to 409bhp. The 335 is worlds apart from the 140 as a whole package and once mapped it leaves the 140 for dead
I would disagree to be honest.... My M140i with its basic tuning box (not remapping) was pushing out 420hp.....
I mean a tuned 335 vs stock 140 🤗
@@adamp3302 dont get me wrong im sure 335d's are tons of fun but you just cant compare it to a modern petrol engine when it comes to power delivery.
that said if i were to buy a diesel, id go 335d as well thats for sure
The only thing I miss is the noise! Power delivery is nothing without traction 😉
Adam p you’re car wouldn’t leave an m140i for dead don’t chat shit lol. It’s fast no doubt but the M140i isn’t a slouch.
With stage 1 the 335d he take you
With a stage 1 M140i the M140i will take it
@@DownShiftThrottle m140 is a STAGE 1 FROM FACTORY LOL, IM WORKING IN BMW
For short distance petrol cars will pull always up front of diesels. But I believe that for longer distance he might be able to catch you! Lol 😊
Well the 335d is xdrive so off the mark it would be quicker, I can rev out to 7k so can keep in the torque/power range for longer and that's where I pulled away....
not a chance in the 335d not std anyway the 140 would be long gone....
Ninja Geezer in the uk , 4wd is king. The 335d is a better car overall as you can use its power in all weather conditions. In the M140i, u have to be very careful. In the wet, Its practically useless. The 335d has no issues here.ive driven both 👍
steering on the M140i is variable shite
M140i are bloody ugly though. Would prefer a 440i
M140i is shit, on perfect conditions is just barely pulling away, imagine that race in the wet or on a standstill, 335d wid leave it for dead
Probably better than what you're driving hah.
Im driving a 335d hahah
Ive had a go against an m140i in normal rain conditions which is wat we get 60-70% of the time in uk and blew him away with ease
M140i driver probably let ya hah. Hopefully you not driving around with the horrible run flats
Yh unfortunetly.lol but thats only cz i got em for free, but once these are done michelin ps4s are coming on, is there a big diff?
There’s nothing wuss than a bosted splitter,is there, yo am smiling like a Cheshire Cat,when yo say sleeper car what’s that, dun yo kip in it? surly not. Not sure about yo pulling in it hay that called doggin especially if officer r watchin,who yo tryin to kid when yo say yo do speed we bay saft so do trayt us like weem saft. Please.
No idea what you saying....
can you speak english man.....
LOL @ 8:27
Obviously no M car... but eats them for fun...🤔
140i will always win as the 335d can’t rev over 5000 and even if you map it you can bring it from 0 not form 30, 3rd gear on 140i and 7500rpm it’s gone