OK this is AMAZING! I've though about how 32nd kicks work, but it's completely different (more clear) after actually seeing it. Mad props. If you also do a tutorial on how to work on the technique it'll be even better!
@alexxxrarara Sorry. The last video was uploaded under a different format. To answer your question about pedal settings here are the details. - Medium / low spring tension (about 70 to 75%). - Footboard height is on the 2nd mark on the pedal (not to high). - Beater Cam Position is on the middle mark on the pedal in the "Power Position" as well the direct cam links. - Beater Distance is about 40 to 45 degrees away from the drum head.
Would it be too much trouble to take some photos? and send them to me? I say it because I am Spanish and I do not understand when I translate what you put me
@alexxxrarara Tranquilo. Hablo español también haha. En cuanto las fotos, hice un cambio en los pedales y no son las mismas. Describí la configuración que use en ese video. Usas el mismo pedal?
Que raro. Ahora es que lo veo. Vale, de vez en cuando cambio las configuraciones dependiendo de que quiera practicar. Actualmente estoy usando una configuración que puede ser la definitiva por ahora.
He aquí el porque a veces se escucha más rápido de lo que se ve y es que a baja velocidad se ve que los pedales tienen rebote, osea que por cada pedalazo suena dos veces. Gracias por el video.
Sure thing. Here's a video comparing two Heel Toe Techniques. czcams.com/users/shortsLiOvdXIZ0wU?si=3bBhm_TvZzburXlB This particular technique (Heel up Doubles) is more audible with triggers. You're not able to get a loud definition acoustically nor on a mesh head due to the dynamics and dead sound coming from the kick drum. However, the Heel Toe technique is a bit more audible but the technique changes to get louder strokes without triggers.
Hey man. Sure! I mostly use max spring tension or 85% when playing other things. Beater distance is around 40/45 degrees, footboard height is relatively low and that's about it! Cheers.
Or you can also loosen your spring tension on the pedals with tightening the bass drum heads . Either way works fine , it depends on which settings you’re comfortable with .
@@twopc3705 dude you didn't get my point, triggers are totally fine, what iam saying is that he is not doing the whole motion, he mainly does the uppstroke, and barely the downstroke, so the triggers only create the sound of the second hit
@@chrispap2393I think it’s because he knows the sweet spot on the pedal on the rebound so the heel toe motion looks far less pronounced then you would normally see
yeah, I was wondering the same thing. if had to guess its just trigger sensivity high as hell and just using the pressure to get the "second hit" and not really doing much of the motion and if i dont remember wrong John Longstreth talked about this. But can't say for sure, my heel toe at that speed has bigger range of motion but it comes to pedal settings and what people are used to. can't say for sure.
![DOUBLE STROKES TECHNIQUE / HEEL-TOE [Extreme Drumming]](/img/n.gif)
This is extremely helpful! It's a shame that no one is doing this type of slow down videos about Moeller technic, fast swing ride cymbal patterns
Thank you!! I appreciate the words. Glad this was helpful. Cheers 🙏🏻
Some hater will come and say "YeAh BuT iT's EaSy WiTh TrIgGgErS"
I love those!! They're one of a kind haha.
If you can't admit that it's 10 times easier with triggers, then you really are a liar and cheater.
How will it sound without triggers?
@blastgrinder7024 Dead.
@@GiancarloRaveloGarcia Like a tractor stalling in the mud.
OK this is AMAZING! I've though about how 32nd kicks work, but it's completely different (more clear) after actually seeing it. Mad props. If you also do a tutorial on how to work on the technique it'll be even better!
Thanks for the words man!! I appreciate it. I did make a tutorial talking about this technique on my channel. Feel free to check it out! Cheers.
Wow!
@alexxxrarara Sorry. The last video was uploaded under a different format.
To answer your question about pedal settings here are the details.
- Medium / low spring tension (about 70 to 75%).
- Footboard height is on the 2nd mark on the pedal (not to high).
- Beater Cam Position is on the middle mark on the pedal in the "Power Position" as well the direct cam links.
- Beater Distance is about 40 to 45 degrees away from the drum head.
Would it be too much trouble to take some photos? and send them to me? I say it because I am Spanish and I do not understand when I translate what you put me
@alexxxrarara Tranquilo. Hablo español también haha. En cuanto las fotos, hice un cambio en los pedales y no son las mismas. Describí la configuración que use en ese video. Usas el mismo pedal?
@@GiancarloRaveloGarcia hola! Te intenté hablar varias veces pero o CZcams lo borra o algo raro pasa, si que tengo el mismo pedal!
Que raro. Ahora es que lo veo. Vale, de vez en cuando cambio las configuraciones dependiendo de que quiera practicar. Actualmente estoy usando una configuración que puede ser la definitiva por ahora.
@@GiancarloRaveloGarcia Hola! Me ha vuelto a borrar el mensaje jaja, podríamos hablar por Instagram?
He aquí el porque a veces se escucha más rápido de lo que se ve y es que a baja velocidad se ve que los pedales tienen rebote, osea que por cada pedalazo suena dos veces. Gracias por el video.
Así es. Esa velocidad solo puede ser producida dando dos golpes simultáneamente con ambos pies. No hay de que! Saludos.
Can u do this again but not using triggers? Thnxs
Sure thing. Here's a video comparing two Heel Toe Techniques.
czcams.com/users/shortsLiOvdXIZ0wU?si=3bBhm_TvZzburXlB
This particular technique (Heel up Doubles) is more audible with triggers. You're not able to get a loud definition acoustically nor on a mesh head due to the dynamics and dead sound coming from the kick drum. However, the Heel Toe technique is a bit more audible but the technique changes to get louder strokes without triggers.
Hi man! Can you please share your pedal settings?
Hey man. Sure! I mostly use max spring tension or 85% when playing other things. Beater distance is around 40/45 degrees, footboard height is relatively low and that's about it! Cheers.
Would you say you need direct drive for this technique?
You do not. Using a tight spring tension and relatively medium tight drum head would help with the rebound.
Or you can also loosen your spring tension on the pedals with tightening the bass drum heads . Either way works fine , it depends on which settings you’re comfortable with .
What kind of shoes are you using?
I'm using Vratim's DS-ll Black Drum Shoes.
Hello . That shoes work for slide technique ? No traction ? Thank you .@@GiancarloRaveloGarcia
@timurorayev8212 They're grippy. But, you can use them on all techniques.
this guy has mastered heel toe technique very well: czcams.com/video/tNg_9b8FBhA/video.htmlsi=JU58Xx6t19hbduGt&t=346
Wanja sure did!
you are just playing the triggers,you are not even making the whole motion
It’s an electric kit… most drummers who use this technique need triggers
@@twopc3705 dude you didn't get my point, triggers are totally fine, what iam saying is that he is not doing the whole motion, he mainly does the uppstroke, and barely the downstroke, so the triggers only create the sound of the second hit
@@chrispap2393I think it’s because he knows the sweet spot on the pedal on the rebound so the heel toe motion looks far less pronounced then you would normally see
yeah, I was wondering the same thing. if had to guess its just trigger sensivity high as hell and just using the pressure to get the "second hit" and not really doing much of the motion and if i dont remember wrong John Longstreth talked about this. But can't say for sure, my heel toe at that speed has bigger range of motion but it comes to pedal settings and what people are used to. can't say for sure.
Yup. I have a button that I press on my feet and they play on their own 😃
Literally anyone can do this with triggers. Sounds like shit compared to a real bass drum.
Yup, anyone can do this out of the blue!
@GiancarloRaveloGarcia Takes about a week of practice for a guitar player to get it down.
@@Mike-qy9zf I'd give it a few minutes. They're very talented.
your feet aren't going as fast as what the kick is doing, its fake, if you achieve that sound your feet are going 2x faster than his.
There is no drummer on the planet that can do this speed without using the heel-toe technique. It's 100% real
i know that hes doing heel toe, i correct myself by saying, "his heel toe is not going as fast as the kick drum"@@fourleggedbus
@@SKIBIDI-Theorists His feet are going as fast as the kick, though, just gotta watch it closely
I will watch it in 0.5x@@fourleggedbus
@@fourleggedbus You are mistaken ive watched it 0.5x