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  • čas přidán 11. 12. 2023
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Komentáře • 76

  • @briandekeyser
    @briandekeyser Před 6 měsíci +52

    Try Brent with effortless swimming. It can’t hurt.

    • @jmw2224
      @jmw2224 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Umm. He’s working with Gerry Rodriguez. 😂

    • @sjdj3000
      @sjdj3000 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Brenton did a swim analysis. His fitness is there but technically not there yet. I’m no coach and see mistakes he’s making.

    • @briandekeyser
      @briandekeyser Před 6 měsíci

      @@sjdj3000 I know he did one on his own but did Lionel have one done ?

  • @thekeenester
    @thekeenester Před 6 měsíci +34

    Lionel looks verrrrrry lean / leaner than years prior for the pre-season. Would love to hear more about what he's doing on the nutrition program. On swim, I'd love to see more of the stroke analysis, similar to how he's talked about breaking down aero on bike. Stroke still looks like he's muscling it a bit and not enough reach/glide out front, but that's unsolicited 2 cents

    • @davisbest
      @davisbest Před 6 měsíci +1

      He did say in another video that he stopped eating "bad." At the level he is, if he dropped 20% intake of fats from fast food, that'd probably do it, but hey just a guess.

    • @thekeenester
      @thekeenester Před 6 měsíci

      @@davisbest I remember that about watching what he eats (and chocolate milk!).

  • @bonn1771
    @bonn1771 Před 6 měsíci +22

    nice work and glad you are working with 2 coaches for the swim
    Talbot great editing as always

  • @andrewmetcalfe9898
    @andrewmetcalfe9898 Před 6 měsíci +15

    5:18 - swim fast when tired. The key for triathlon swimming. So true coach. So true.

  • @noahbusch3340
    @noahbusch3340 Před 6 měsíci +29

    I swam in college now coach triathletes and masters swimmers. One thing I notice is a lack of rotation which cause your left arm to swing across very straight. This causes the body to wiggle and lose energy out of the sides vs propulsion forward. Additionally, I’m not sure how you feel, but you look tense/a bit thrashy which can create lactate quickly as you speed up

    • @gtkona1608
      @gtkona1608 Před 6 měsíci +1

      He has always looked like that.

    • @JohnDoe-sw9zq
      @JohnDoe-sw9zq Před 6 měsíci +3

      His left arm swings more wide than his right for sure. Lots more tension and less recovery in his stroke.

    • @pattuohy876
      @pattuohy876 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Keep the bend in the elbow Lionel a lot less effort and more efficient. Look also at your EVF

    • @johnbgriffinjr116
      @johnbgriffinjr116 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Spot on critique friend ✌🏼

    • @briandekeyser
      @briandekeyser Před 6 měsíci

      I thought I noticed his elbows going in before his hands. Straight arm recovery but I am no expert.

  • @beachedbeluga
    @beachedbeluga Před 6 měsíci +14

    Technique. Technique. Technique. Drill work. Skulling. Working on your catch. Looking @4:22 you can see how much you are slipping in the water. You can do it.

    • @miguelpfeffermann
      @miguelpfeffermann Před 6 měsíci +3

      Yeah I also hope he does tons of technique, starting with the clean basics and working from there. And not mindless hard work because thats not the department lacking.

    • @djmiddleman2
      @djmiddleman2 Před 6 měsíci +3

      I would add that he should be doing the other strokes as well to improve his feel for the water. Not just pounding front crawl but adding in the other three strokes. This strengthens other muscle groups, and adds variety to the training as well so it’s not so boring. Lucy Charles Barclay does a lot of butterfly in her swim sets

    • @anthonyjohnson6973
      @anthonyjohnson6973 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Agree with this. Compared to the next lane he looks snaky, muscling the water and just not smooth. A lot of gains to be had

  • @ghassang2074
    @ghassang2074 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Oi dude, The absence of your videos and gorgeous vlogs can be tremendously felt. Could you please upload them as frequent as you can🎉❤

  • @sebastianpalm531
    @sebastianpalm531 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Love this. Always keep pushing Lionel.

  • @leegmann2282
    @leegmann2282 Před 6 měsíci +2

    More swimming videos, please! As always, great work, Lionel, and awesome video production, Talbot.

  • @frankgallagher5786
    @frankgallagher5786 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Excellent video. Even though you know whats coming its captivating. Im done and dusted as an athlete but still watching these clips revs me up. It would just be so sweet to witness that magically moment when Lionel has that break away swim or can hold the pack.

  • @RunForPeace-hk1cu
    @RunForPeace-hk1cu Před 6 měsíci +1

    Swimming fast is about shoulder flexibility/mobility and buoyancy. It's not just about being big and strong.
    This is why fast swimming is reserved for young people 🙂

  • @rdelclaro
    @rdelclaro Před 6 měsíci

    Great work Talbot!!!!

  • @smkynbandt1
    @smkynbandt1 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Nice results from the Masters meet you went to Lionel! Keep up the great work in the pool!

  • @markwt2680
    @markwt2680 Před 6 měsíci

    Great to see you working at the swim in a serious way. Please stick to it and stay the f**king course!👍👍👍

  • @juddschulz4841
    @juddschulz4841 Před 6 měsíci

    This has to be my favorite lionel video... and thats saying a lot.

  • @lonepiruns7369
    @lonepiruns7369 Před 6 měsíci

    I also swam at Ron Jon. You did awesome! Keep up that good training.

  • @gokhanfi5858
    @gokhanfi5858 Před 6 měsíci

    lionel u are such an inspiration. love you

  • @thomasv.s.2826
    @thomasv.s.2826 Před 5 měsíci

    Thank you Lionel for another inspiring video! I also highly recommend Effortless Swimming as he is very consistent and down to earth in his technique analysis.
    I’m an absolute nobody in swimming but his “front quadrant “ principle has improved my times by nearly 15%.

  • @user-zq9kl9rn3b
    @user-zq9kl9rn3b Před 6 měsíci

    Stroke looks so much better dude, whatever you’re doing with technique is working 💪

  • @elisanerli5113
    @elisanerli5113 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Keep it up Lionel! Great that you took part into a swim meet :) what events did you swim?

  • @johnbgriffinjr116
    @johnbgriffinjr116 Před 6 měsíci

    As a fan of yours and an amateur triathlete I can tell you I see more of a fluidity in your swim stroke… keep it up my friend.

  • @jenniferhamlet4838
    @jenniferhamlet4838 Před 6 měsíci

    Love it!🎉

  • @jhonnimencias5048
    @jhonnimencias5048 Před 6 měsíci

    Let’s go Lionel , can’t wait to see you racing again and see those swim gains and new Bike CDA lets fkin go

  • @runzization
    @runzization Před 6 měsíci +4

    Where is the Open Water Swim Sessions?

  • @414s4
    @414s4 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Been swimming for 45+ years, to me, swimming is 60% technique, 20% cardio, and 20% strength. Work on distance per stroke. Generally I would say arms above the water doesn’t mean much, but your left arm swings wide. Loved seeing my old pool at ASU!

    • @highertest
      @highertest Před 6 měsíci

      Kinda have to go wide if the goal is open water in a group like triathlon is.

    • @414s4
      @414s4 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@highertest I’d say that I’m an experienced open water swimmer, not just a pool swimmer, and I wouldn’t want a wide arm swing, as I avoid hitting others, or catching waves with my arms. Don’t need it for sighting either.

  • @mvschooten
    @mvschooten Před 6 měsíci +1

    W H A T ????? are you now winning swim medals? YEAH 😄👍

  • @ItchingJ
    @ItchingJ Před 6 měsíci

    Lionel, I want you to win so bad. More than I've wanted anyone to win. And I believe you can do it!

  • @jamieblack9349
    @jamieblack9349 Před 6 měsíci

    I’m no expert and can’t wait to see you back on the podium again where you belong. But I do notice the fast swimmers have slower deeper kick with less plays. Most have short faster kicks splashing water and if you look closely are kicking air 50 percent of the time

  • @JohnDoe-sw9zq
    @JohnDoe-sw9zq Před 6 měsíci

    Volume is great. Technique is better. Keep up the good work.

  • @louisjs544
    @louisjs544 Před 6 měsíci +1

    would like to see his technique drills too

  • @bengeary5342
    @bengeary5342 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Distance per stroke/stroke efficiency! Less effort on the recovery phase and smoother/more relaxed breathing motion. I really hope (and assume) that’s what these coaches are telling you 🤜

  • @alex31721able
    @alex31721able Před 5 měsíci

    I want more footage from the meet

  • @ChrisKelley48
    @ChrisKelley48 Před 6 měsíci

    LS please tell us that you're not the Canadian dude that's been swimming against the little girls up there....lol. Just kidding man, keep up the great work and documenting the journey. Merry Christmas!

  • @fitterfasterfifty
    @fitterfasterfifty Před 6 měsíci

    Does your coaching staff ever recommend or use other strokes, ie backstroke or fly to improve your freestyle speed?

  • @jjun4219
    @jjun4219 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Still surprised Lionel doesn’t do any open water practice in training (at least we don’t see it in videos..)…might be sth to look at!!

    • @Naah732
      @Naah732 Před 6 měsíci

      He lives in Tucson 😅

  • @christinepeters3855
    @christinepeters3855 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Was that LS at 2:55 diving off the dock? If so, please practice your running dives

  • @skimckay
    @skimckay Před 6 měsíci +1

    Well done LS. VERY INTERESTING WHAT WE SAW TODAY...
    The Wife and I...
    I almost spat out my coffee when reading the comments and got to @beachedbeluga 4:22 comment... I was like... "Hey, that's what we just said..."
    My wife and I saw that scene, we rewound it and watched and again...
    If that's you in the nearside lane it looks like something I have had to work on... (and I'm really slow) but same idea... NOT FULLY DOWN SWEEPING WITH HAND / ARM but RACKING high in the water.... bent elbow...
    1) The guy on your right appears to be KICKING LESS, STRETCHING OUT, and making a FULL DOWN SWEEP of the HAND / ARM... after out stretched
    This appears to keep him straight and lead to a nice natural ROTATION... His lever...
    2) It looks like yourself Lionel is bending your elbow, is not out stretched, and aren't completing a full down sweep with the hand arm shoulder - 50 - 70 cm... Hand to Shoulder...
    3) The OTHER GUY's hand exit's top of the thigh.
    4) Your hand exits hip level in that scene OR ABOVE, exiting early... it's all slap slap...
    5) It's like chicken wings / arms, NOT getting full water hold / depth and slipping at the end with a sideways wobble...
    Don't take that personally LS, I know you're a great guy who has humility, you know the edges of your own competence...
    You're doing great...
    1) STRETCH
    2) HEAD TO SHOULDER
    3) THEN DOWN SWEEP... FULL ARM (50 -70 HAND TO SHOULDER)
    4) EXIT AT TOP OF THIGH BELOW HIP..
    5) FEEL THE NATURAL ROTATION OCCUR
    Less Tug Boating
    Watch 4:22
    Then again I may be wrong.

  • @tobiasgross1068
    @tobiasgross1068 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Shoulder mobility… Especially on the left arm…

  • @seanmahoney5281
    @seanmahoney5281 Před 6 měsíci

    Yo guy, go see the main man Bob Bowman up the road at ASU! Couldn't hurt and would be great content!

  • @and1streetball7
    @and1streetball7 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Go to Noosa and swim with JR

  • @User85306
    @User85306 Před 6 měsíci +3

    I wonder what would happen, if you trained in a pool double the length…

  • @Cachoeira1986
    @Cachoeira1986 Před 6 měsíci

    A 19:13 in a 1.500m course is something beyond my wildest dreams... but you know what, let's try 😎🏊‍♂💪

  • @haroldurban8088
    @haroldurban8088 Před 6 měsíci

    did you met leon marchand, he can give you tricks.

  • @ricoenmas9681
    @ricoenmas9681 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Try different opinions, I suggest reach out to Effortless Swimming, too.

  • @PK-qq1lz
    @PK-qq1lz Před 6 měsíci

    Lion, go for PTO races, get that money and prove them wrong. It's the perfect distance for you, to smash them all! I'll never forget daytona, you still can do it!!!

  • @agenthoini
    @agenthoini Před 5 měsíci

    5:13 he may be a bit too optimistic there. Not sure i could break like 2:30 for an all out 100m if my life depended on it 😂😂

  • @user-eq8zw7hm8q
    @user-eq8zw7hm8q Před 6 měsíci +1

    Lionel, don’t take it offensive, but at this point in order to get faster you need to not only do a good swim workouts but also lots of stretching and technique drills. Without flexibility you only may get away with swimming 50-200 meters… and I know, guys that at the top tier do it all. Without flexibility it’s almost impossible to improve technique.

  • @thepatternforms859
    @thepatternforms859 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Ironman series > PTO.

  • @user-qr8gt8qw7w
    @user-qr8gt8qw7w Před 6 měsíci +1

    All swimming is, is hip/shoulder rotation. If you have a good reach and pull, you’re laughing.

  • @bretgreenfield9501
    @bretgreenfield9501 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Hmmm, I just don't get it, why this is so tough,,,and your coaches should be helping but they don't get it either, but your video of you swimming says it all, your arms are slapping the water, they should have a bend in them to cup the water, like scoop it, what you need to do,,,is put on a lot of clothes, then jump into the water, and try and swim, it wont be easy, and it will force you use a correct stroke, or even go to a ball pit, bring your kid, when he is a little older, and try and swim across the balls, no way to grab and pull them, you must almost roll over the top, using a scooping motion, hence like a golf swing, what a powerful kick you have, if you learn the arms, we can take 80% effort away from the kick:) I do believe,,,swim, bike, run,,,is a lot to how we learned to ride a,bike,,,you have to feel how to do it,,,

  • @HumilityisHumble
    @HumilityisHumble Před 6 měsíci

    19 is pretty slow for a swimmer.

    • @swimgood3873
      @swimgood3873 Před 5 měsíci

      Yeah he's not a swimmer that's the point lol

  • @waynemacdougall8667
    @waynemacdougall8667 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Took you long enough to figure out that your swim needs work

  • @Daimoku1938
    @Daimoku1938 Před 6 měsíci +1

    u are still in the tri business ??? in the eyes of the Community your train has passed...retire and enjoy being a father !!!

  • @claudiacortes3067
    @claudiacortes3067 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Swim.faster and keep the technique otherwise the drag will consume all your energy