4000 tonne stone train TRIAL., Northwich, 16th March 2021
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- Freightliner operated a trial 4000 tonne stone train from Tunstead to Wembley, powered by a single class 70, 70017, with 39 loaded wagons.
66620 was tucked in , dead, for insurance.
Running through the night as Network Rail wouldn't allow a day time move, the train is seen here passing slowly through Northwich , as it turns off the Mid Cheshire Line on to the single track, freight only Middlewich / Sandbach line. at 23.20.
16th March 2021
4000 tonnes isn't a problem for an American GE-Dash 8, great video BTW!
Trains do use that line then Phil, nice one.
Great video of this unusual test run. Thumb up!
Thanks Dirk
Fantastic catch Phil, that's a load and a half!👍👍
Thanks David. Ana a bit more too. :-)
Superb and unique Phil! Wrll do e very impressive, cheers Nick.
Many thanks Nick, another one planned soon, with just the 70.
@@philclarke3203 Great cant wait! Cheers Phil.
Always exciting to see new freight train developments
Yes, can't have to many
That's a very good catch Phil!
Many thanks Alan
Oh boy! Superb! Very interesting and impressive! Another tremendous video, great shot of this unusual working! Should have gone for that! Very unique! Great camera work and detail as usual! I love those wagons, they are some of my favourite types! Really enjoyed, thanks for sharing! Keep up the fabulous work!
Take care, stay safe and well, keep up the fabulous, inspiring and enjoyable videos we all appreciate your time and effort into them! All the best!
Many thanks for that, I'll try my best! :-)
You take care too. Best wishes.
Must be a BIG hole some where that needs filling, plus a big hole where the stone came from .
Hope your keeping ok. 👍😎🐢
Take a long while digging it out with a spade?? Yes fine thanks :-)
Another good shot, it caused a bit of a stir that train😀👍
Thanks. Yes indeed it did !
Excellent footage Phil nice one 👍😀 I Also got this At Altrincham will upload tomorrow
Thanks Kev. Thought you might! 😀. I'll look out for it,. 😀👍
Very nice video!
Thanks
excellent shot👍 that's the first time I've seen a 4000 tonnes the heaviest I've seen is the h o b c 3000 tonnes
Thanks Barry. me too, only another 1000 tonnes?
Great catch mate, going to subscribe keep up the good work
Many thanks and the sub 😀👍
Great video Phil gosh what a long train bet that kept a few people awake.😀👍
Thanks Rick. It's a wonder you didn't hear it. Cost a bit to replicate it in 00 gauge?
Ha Ha no was watching tv.
Stone me ~~ heavy footage thank you
Haha, sure was ,thanks
extremely heavy, good video!
Many thanks
Now to replicate that in OO Gauge model railway 🤔...impressive catch.
Many thanks. Should get a discount for bulk buying wagons??
Very nice :)
Thanks Simon
Wow that's some seriously long freight train it must be half a mile long of more! And I'm surprised the rails can take that kind of weight!!!😎
Doesn't really matter about the length in terms of axle loading....it doesn't exert any more weight on the rails per wagon.
Thanks. It looked long , but only around 600 metres. As Andy says, the weight is well spread out along the whole length.
jeez 4000 ton stone trail train hope 70017 didn't break down lol sure it didn't great capture phil
Thanks. No, it did a great job
Almost as heavy as the Mendip Rail mega trains from Whatley and Merehead quarries to Acton in London. Which can range from a scheduled weight of 4200 to 4800 tonnes. It looks like five of these trains went to Acton on March 17th.
Alot of stones in one day!
Looks more than 4000tonnes all that but I enjoyed watching it,
Thanks Lee
If that one had derailed the retrieval would have been interesting!
Driver had to be on top of his game.
It certainly would, and yes!
Nice video.
Well pulled by Class 70 & 66.
39 wagons @ 100 tons plus 2 Locoes of 130 tons ..
Any idea where from and too ?
Used to be common from Tunstead to Verdin sidings or onto WCML via Hodge Lane...
A lot quieter than the Black 5 or 8F with 10 ICI limestone hoppers
Hell of a weight to be going over Victorian Arches or Middlewich Freight line.
Look forward to seeing more of your videos
Thanks. Tunstead to Wembley. Yes making good use of the Middlewich line. Sadly nothings left around verdin sidings any more.
So the dead weight of the Class 66 equates to about three more loaded hoppers?
Yes about that
amazing what moves around at night
Indeed Pete
I bet it took a while to start moving.
I imagine so
Thirty nine trucks, big by UK standards but quite short compared to some US freight trains.
Yes, very true Geoff!
I'm just wondering what's meant by 66620 tucked in, for insurance?
Yes , exactly like Alex says.
What route did it take,excuse my ignorance please.
Tunstead- Hazel Grove- Mid Cheshire line to Northwich- freight only line to Sandbach - Crewe then down the WCML
@@philclarke3203 ok Phil,thanks for that..
Impressive but why bother - the problems each end would surely outweigh any other advantage?
What problems?
The service from the Mendips in Wiltshire to Acton in West London sees several of this type of mega train a day. The trains are two or three services combined as one, they are then split at Acton and then each portion goes on to their respective customers. That's why the train in this video has a block of box wagons and a block hopper wagons. Two trains in one.
@@neilcrawford8303 My question was because the producer of that vid said it was a trial and at night so as to cause least problems. So you are saying that weight of train is common?
@@drdoolittle5724
I see what you mean, good point.
I wouldn't say it was common, but it is a feature of the stone trains coming from Yeomans (now Aggregates Industries) Merehead quarry and the nearby Hanson (used to be ARC) Whatley quarry. Certainly not something that would be run without doing trial runs first. It's a big ask for a single locomotive, they'd have to be sure it could restart at certain locations should it be stopped and that it doesn't stall on any gradients. That train was 39 wagons plus a dead 66, so over 4000 tonnes. With 3690hp available, that's less than 1hp per tonne. They are impressive trains. It's amazing that the traction motors on the locomotive don't fry themselves.
@@neilcrawford8303 I still revel at the Don Coffey vid getting the waste train from Liverpool to Yorkshire thinking it was a 'heavy train'! Now, do you know of any cab rides filmed on these monsters? Thank you for the info!
@@drdoolittle5724 one of Don Coffeys great videos
I knew they were good them 70s. 4000 ton,,, how will it manage against leaves or the wrong kind of snow ... lol
Yes, not everyone's favorite for looks though. That's why they want double length trains, so they can have a day off if conditions are bad?? Lol
Friends of the Earth won’t like this footage .
I'm they'd prefer one big arsed train to hundreds and hundreds road wagons.
Signaller stops train , sorry to stop you driver but we have reports of no tail lamp light can you check it or replace it please.
Haha. And the drivers reply is..... unrepeatable!
They need a more powerful locomotive
Some weight.y there I guess the 66 failed hope ok🦺👌⭐️😔
The 66 didn't fail it's that the load was extremely heavy it had to have two, was called 'the mega train' because of how heavy and long it was going to be! Was about 4000 tones and about 40 wagons! So it has to have two otherwise it would have probably failed and also it had a pathing allowance almost everywhere where it would go through!
It says the 66 was dead in the formation as insurance. It was a trial to see if the 70 could handle such a load. Should the 70 have struggled, the 66 is there to be used to provide additional power.
No, the 66 just there in case the 70 needed help
Thanks Neil. :-)
"Network rail " wouldn't allow day time running. What a Mickey mouse railway this country has,pathetic.
Hardly surprising, it's a trial. Hardly going to run it when it could disrupt other services should it have problems. Remember a class 70 has 3,690hp, that train is 39 x 102 tonne wagons plus a dead 66 in tow, over 4,000tonnes. That's less than 1hp per tonne to move that train.
Trains heavier than this run to Acton from the West Country, but only after trials were first run.
@@neilcrawford8303 thanks again :-)