A centipede was happy - quite! Until a toad in fun Said, “Pray, which leg comes after which?” This raised her doubts to such a pitch, She fell exhausted in the ditch Not knowing how to run. Once recovered, with a sigh, She thought to give another try. “But wait,” she thought, “which foot to start? This puzzle's tearing me apart!” With legs in knots, a flustered art, She danced beneath the sky. - "The Centipede's Dilemma", Katherine Craster (1841-1874)
I was about to say wtf are you talking about. And then you quoted someone who was around before tv and had a lot of down time. So then I was like “that makes sense”
I’ve found Arthropleura foot tracks in Turtle Creek Pennsylvania in Grafton sandstone from the late Carboniferous in the Casselman formation. I’m an extremely active fossil hunter around western Pennsylvania and eastern Ohio and northern West Virginia. I love how I can dig through Grafton sandstone and Ames limestone at the same time. If you find an animal fossil and want to donate it to the museum you’ll need to get property rights from the land owner and then get an appointment with the museum. I found tracks from Batrachichnus that I donated, we aren’t sure if they are Grafton sandstone or Duquesne sandstone and I had the museum send a person out to the site.
Hey man i wanted to ask if you could make a Video about the Plants of the Dinosaur Era ? Because in most videos or documentaries its only about the Animals of these times, but its kinda hard to imagine those ancient worlds without knowing anything about the vegetation ? How did the landscape looked like back then ? What trees and plants were common ? I would really love to see a video about that topic !
I feel I should point out having looked into this kind of stuff myself and it seems that this is a very difficult and somewhat controversial question as plant fossils are uncommon to hard to interpret as creatures have gotten very good at decomposing plants thus typically special conditions such as the relatively rapid burial due to volcanoes or landslides are needed to allow them to fossilize at all at least in a recognizable form. There is also an ecological fossilization bias for floodplain species with modern plant lineages adapted to upland settings having basically no direct fossil record. As a result the main plant fossil record is largely limited to pollen microfossils or plant fragments within coprolites (fossilized poop).
@@Dragrath1 hmmmaybe there is other ways to somehow reconstruct the prehistoric landscape in some wway at least.We know there was a lot of Ferns and in T-Rex times there was already flowering plants. I mean there got to be some information out there and if anyone finds them out for us, its moth light media
During the cretaceous we have a fair number of modern tree groups getting into the swing of things, as that's when angeosperms are getting going... but as a gymnosperm Stan I would loooove to see some pre-cretaceous plant content too! That would be 🤌😍
@@user-lguqrux You are right, the early mesozoic flora is a very underrated chapter of plant evolution. If you are interested in the early mesozoic plants, there are some Videos from Anthony Pain here on YT. But it's strange that the paleobotanists know much more about the evoution from the devonian spore plants into the first gymnosperms, than about the evoution and the earliest ancestors of the flower plants so much later. There are still a lot of unknown things... One of the early Mesozoic plants I like most is the Pleuromeia, a small tree who lived in Triassic. The Pleuromeia was not a seed plant, it was a kind of grandchild of the Carboniferous Sigillaria. But the Sigillaria trees were swamp plants, and the Pleuromeia grew in dry areas typical for the Triassic. And it was the last of the lycopodia trees, all the lycopodes that came later were small...
Its probably worth noting arthropleura has only been found in territories which are remnants of the "microcontinent" Avalonia which is a complex association of accreted terrains that began forming as a fixed volcanic subduction archipelago akin to modern Indonesia and Papua New Guinea back during the Neoproterozoic. This is important to remember because as a fixed oceanic Avalonia was thus geographically isolated from the major continents prior to getting sandwiched between Laurentia, Baltica and Gondwana during the assembly of Pangaea. As a result it seems quite plausible that they may have started out as a early analog of insular dwarfism. Though given that they made it out of the Carboniferous rainforests this likely isn't the full explanation. (As for the temperature drops that might have been a consequence of the archipelago being moved out of the tropics for the first time as the continent overrode the subduction archipelago as Australia is doing to Papua New Guinea and Indonesia. Coconut crabs while arthropods are a bad example for size limits of passive trachea based air diffusion in arthropods because they are decapods a group of crustacean arthropods which has evolved a functionally complete circulatory system complete with either lungs or gills. For technical reasons this is not classified as a "true" closed circulatory system just semi closed as they have a different kind of returning blood flow to the heart and lungs for reoxygenation. Instead Coconut Crabs are constrained by their need to molt their exoskeleton.
Was going to post this but it seems you beat me to it by almost a day. Though I will put on my nerd glasses and start mouth-breathing and say "Ummm....ACHTUALLY...this may be a case of island 'gigantism'.
I live in Scotland nd it’s always lovely to hear about my home land, nd even if it’s about land I haven’t nd will never step on. Your videos are a blessing
Great video!👍 I personally am fascinated with the beginnings of animal evolution on land and under water. Could you make a video of the evolution of corals and sponges? Would love to learn how they managed to be such a foundation to the marine ecosystem!
I’ve seen the tracks on the Isle of Arran in person, and let me assure you they look much bigger in real life that the view photos do. Would not want to have bumped into one of things 😅
Marvelous ! Even the background music is well choosed and is quite relaxing. Eager to see your videos turned into a book carefully illustrated with somes of theses stuning drawings.
My favorite animals from before the permian are the amphibians which lived alongside arthropleura, perhaps one day we will see a feature length video for them as well. I await it with bated breath
Fossils / imprints I find in West Virginia are 90% plant and remainder is tiny insect or older Leperditia (ocean based 500 + mya). Looking for insect fossils in carboniferous shale involves using zoom photography, most are gnat sized.
_Awesome, these things were truly incredible!_ I love the thought of an arthropod *this big,* I kinda wish they were still around ngl... Also, _-as a birthday gift lol-_ *I'd personally atleast love to see a video on the evolution and specialization of eyes and other light sensing organs!*
I just don't understand why educational nature videos always use completely nonsensical comparison scale measurements like at 3:39: arthropod and human compared to 3,75m scale, which is related neither to the animal's sizes in any way. 2m, 3m or even 4m would make perfect sense because it's a whole number, but just what is 3,75m to anyone? similarly on smaller animals it's never 1m or 50cm or 5cm, but it's some random 75cm or 90cm for scale. just why...?
If it were able to adapt to drier conditions, I imagine it comig out at night and appearing like a speed bump. It would be vulnerable to cars and dogs though. Also it could be a useful composter and lawn mower.
Who else thinks that Moth Light Media videos would be even better without music at all? I didn't even know they did and I found them really atmospheric.
Some of my favorite chill relaxing science videos to listen to. If only the ads at the beginning and end weren’t so loud, and that isn’t your fault at all. XD
Wee timorous beasties in Scotland! Happy Burns Night to all the Sottish viewers from a sassenach! I'm out of veggie haggis and scotch and hope you all fare much better!
Another animal on the list of those who could live to the very present day in some niches and become a wonderful and exotic pet. Land crocodiles and trilobites, meet a new freind.
if they think that they might be fossils of the removed outer skin of the millipedes, how do they know that the bits on the sides werent actually the stomach protection? and that they have just been folded outwards as the millipede removes its old outer skin?
Would you make a video about Mesozoic India Arthropleura having primitive air sacs could explain why they're significantly larger than other invertebrates that were able to achieve large sizes during the Carboniferous
Me... running and screaming from giant horrid evil millipedes. I hate centipedes, I can totally tolerate other bugs, earwigs being another exception, but not as evil. There is something so primitive and terrifying of fast moving, squirming insects. My personal hell would be having to spend an eternity with creatures like that. Even looking at animated and still pics of them gives me shivers.
Hold on.. It shows right there on the chart at 01:10 that arachnids were the first animals on land, but you say right after that millipedes were the first... Is that because scorpions first evolved in the sea, while millipedes evolved on land?
Why don’t you think about making a suggestion and creating a CZcams Videos that’s all about the Evolution Of The Pliosaurs in the next month on the next Moth Light Media coming up next?!⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👍👍👍👍👍
Hi there, @MothLightMedia. I have two queries: 1) I joined your Patreon Community back in 2017, but the card I used to support your wonderful channel had to be replaced bc of having been violated by hackers. I’d like to update my payment information. How do I go about doing this? 2) Would you ever consider doing a speculative evolutionary video on PHYTOSAURS, and on *why*--given the many convergent evolutionary characteristics they shared with crocodilomorphs--phytosaurs went extinct, but crocodiles did not?
I more excited for new MothlightMedia videos than I am for my own birthday.
Sad
@@bunkiebunkbut true
As someone who shares a birthday, *HAPPY BIRTHDAY Dude*
Also, _Mothlightmedia rocks!_
Happy birthday
Think of it as a great present
A centipede was happy - quite!
Until a toad in fun
Said, “Pray, which leg comes after which?”
This raised her doubts to such a pitch,
She fell exhausted in the ditch
Not knowing how to run.
Once recovered, with a sigh,
She thought to give another try.
“But wait,” she thought, “which foot to start?
This puzzle's tearing me apart!”
With legs in knots, a flustered art,
She danced beneath the sky.
- "The Centipede's Dilemma", Katherine Craster (1841-1874)
did she accidentally maul the toad with her 50cm gait?
what exactly was the toad's ultimate fate?
pray, do tell, for we can't wait!
How nice that someone wrote a poem about a centipede! ❤
I was about to say wtf are you talking about. And then you quoted someone who was around before tv and had a lot of down time. So then I was like “that makes sense”
I’ve found Arthropleura foot tracks in Turtle Creek Pennsylvania in Grafton sandstone from the late Carboniferous in the Casselman formation. I’m an extremely active fossil hunter around western Pennsylvania and eastern Ohio and northern West Virginia. I love how I can dig through Grafton sandstone and Ames limestone at the same time. If you find an animal fossil and want to donate it to the museum you’ll need to get property rights from the land owner and then get an appointment with the museum. I found tracks from Batrachichnus that I donated, we aren’t sure if they are Grafton sandstone or Duquesne sandstone and I had the museum send a person out to the site.
That is an extremely cool thing that you do, my friend.
The smoothest pronunciations in the business.🥰 Quite commendable your talent for enunciation of some real tongue twisters.😎👍🏻
Hey man i wanted to ask if you could make a Video about the Plants of the Dinosaur Era ? Because in most videos or documentaries its only about the Animals of these times, but its kinda hard to imagine those ancient worlds without knowing anything about the vegetation ? How did the landscape looked like back then ? What trees and plants were common ? I would really love to see a video about that topic !
Same! An environmental exploration for each era would be very handy.
I feel I should point out having looked into this kind of stuff myself and it seems that this is a very difficult and somewhat controversial question as plant fossils are uncommon to hard to interpret as creatures have gotten very good at decomposing plants thus typically special conditions such as the relatively rapid burial due to volcanoes or landslides are needed to allow them to fossilize at all at least in a recognizable form. There is also an ecological fossilization bias for floodplain species with modern plant lineages adapted to upland settings having basically no direct fossil record. As a result the main plant fossil record is largely limited to pollen microfossils or plant fragments within coprolites (fossilized poop).
@@Dragrath1 hmmmaybe there is other ways to somehow reconstruct the prehistoric landscape in some wway at least.We know there was a lot of Ferns and in T-Rex times there was already flowering plants. I mean there got to be some information out there and if anyone finds them out for us, its moth light media
During the cretaceous we have a fair number of modern tree groups getting into the swing of things, as that's when angeosperms are getting going... but as a gymnosperm Stan I would loooove to see some pre-cretaceous plant content too! That would be 🤌😍
@@user-lguqrux
You are right, the early mesozoic flora is a very underrated chapter of plant evolution. If you are interested in the early mesozoic plants, there are some Videos from Anthony Pain here on YT.
But it's strange that the paleobotanists know much more about the evoution from the devonian spore plants into the first gymnosperms, than about the evoution and the earliest ancestors of the flower plants so much later.
There are still a lot of unknown things...
One of the early Mesozoic plants I like most is the Pleuromeia, a small tree who lived in Triassic. The Pleuromeia was not a seed plant, it was a kind of grandchild of the Carboniferous Sigillaria. But the Sigillaria trees were swamp plants, and the Pleuromeia grew in dry areas typical for the Triassic. And it was the last of the lycopodia trees, all the lycopodes that came later were small...
It's wild that we can find fossils today that still have impressions from tracks of animals and plants in really intricate detail
Its probably worth noting arthropleura has only been found in territories which are remnants of the "microcontinent" Avalonia which is a complex association of accreted terrains that began forming as a fixed volcanic subduction archipelago akin to modern Indonesia and Papua New Guinea back during the Neoproterozoic. This is important to remember because as a fixed oceanic Avalonia was thus geographically isolated from the major continents prior to getting sandwiched between Laurentia, Baltica and Gondwana during the assembly of Pangaea. As a result it seems quite plausible that they may have started out as a early analog of insular dwarfism. Though given that they made it out of the Carboniferous rainforests this likely isn't the full explanation. (As for the temperature drops that might have been a consequence of the archipelago being moved out of the tropics for the first time as the continent overrode the subduction archipelago as Australia is doing to Papua New Guinea and Indonesia.
Coconut crabs while arthropods are a bad example for size limits of passive trachea based air diffusion in arthropods because they are decapods a group of crustacean arthropods which has evolved a functionally complete circulatory system complete with either lungs or gills. For technical reasons this is not classified as a "true" closed circulatory system just semi closed as they have a different kind of returning blood flow to the heart and lungs for reoxygenation. Instead Coconut Crabs are constrained by their need to molt their exoskeleton.
Was going to post this but it seems you beat me to it by almost a day. Though I will put on my nerd glasses and start mouth-breathing and say "Ummm....ACHTUALLY...this may be a case of island 'gigantism'.
Where's the intro! Really set off my anxiety waiting for it!
Lmfaoo im like 7 minutes in still waiting 🤣🤣
Haha, yeah I keep on expecting for it to drop!
I really like/ed the intro. I hope it comes back!
This guys voice is so soothing
I live in Scotland nd it’s always lovely to hear about my home land, nd even if it’s about land I haven’t nd will never step on. Your videos are a blessing
So many amazing creatures of different epochs and they only make movies about dinosaurs.
Good point about the high oxygen level not explaining earlier giant arthropods. Interesting video.
They lived in the water?
@@HaHa00193 Some did, though the video is mainly referring to terrestrial inverts,
Awesome content :)! Can you make a video on the evolution of Deer?
I wish they were still alive. I would keep one as a pet and name it Arthur Pod.
Great video!👍 I personally am fascinated with the beginnings of animal evolution on land and under water. Could you make a video of the evolution of corals and sponges? Would love to learn how they managed to be such a foundation to the marine ecosystem!
I'm interested in the evolution of keystone species
I’ve seen the tracks on the Isle of Arran in person, and let me assure you they look much bigger in real life that the view photos do. Would not want to have bumped into one of things 😅
Marvelous ! Even the background music is well choosed and is quite relaxing. Eager to see your videos turned into a book carefully illustrated with somes of theses stuning drawings.
My favorite animals from before the permian are the amphibians which lived alongside arthropleura, perhaps one day we will see a feature length video for them as well. I await it with bated breath
Fossils / imprints I find in West Virginia are 90% plant and remainder is tiny insect or older Leperditia (ocean based 500 + mya).
Looking for insect fossils in carboniferous shale involves using zoom photography, most are gnat sized.
I'll never forget the huge millipedes I saw visiting southern Taiwan. To think they could MUCH bigger than that eeks me out! 😬
Look for Pulmoscorpius...
It’s AMAZING the numerous creatures that have lived on this special Planet 🌍 👏🏿👏🏿👨🏿💻👨🏿⚕️
Actually shocked to learn that Arthropleura lived into the early Permian!
A beautiful, charming and informative video.
Millipedes are friend-shaped
true friends have a thousand legs
_Awesome, these things were truly incredible!_ I love the thought of an arthropod *this big,* I kinda wish they were still around ngl...
Also, _-as a birthday gift lol-_ *I'd personally atleast love to see a video on the evolution and specialization of eyes and other light sensing organs!*
Love learning about the Carboniferous. Lots of great stuff in this video that was new to me
Our world is truly fascinating!
...and your voice is very nice.
I always look forward to MLM videos man, they are so interesting and informing, plus the pronunciation is just on point always xd
I love your content, keep it up!
Such a shame that they didint manage to survive till modern day or at least till the mezozoic, imagine having an arthropleura or megarachne as a pet
It's funny you mention megarachne actually. It isn't actually a spider. It's a sea scorpion
@@budget-cloakeraren't spiders an offshoot of the scorpion lineage?
@@pattonramming1988Nah, they’re relatives, but one didn’t evolve from the other.
@@BugsandBiology aren't spiders the younger lineage though
@@pattonramming1988don’t sea scorpions have nothing to do with modern scorpions
I just don't understand why educational nature videos always use completely nonsensical comparison scale measurements like at 3:39: arthropod and human compared to 3,75m scale, which is related neither to the animal's sizes in any way. 2m, 3m or even 4m would make perfect sense because it's a whole number, but just what is 3,75m to anyone? similarly on smaller animals it's never 1m or 50cm or 5cm, but it's some random 75cm or 90cm for scale. just why...?
Learnt a lot of this watching prehistoric park as a kid, what a show
Man, didn't know there was new research regarding arthropod size during the Carboniferous.
Moth is the only good MLM out there
🎵 I am a millipede. I am amazing. 🎶
That feeling when people call all arthropods "bugs"...
For what it's worth, I think she's the swankiest bug out in space
If it were able to adapt to drier conditions, I imagine it comig out at night and appearing like a speed bump. It would be vulnerable to cars and dogs though. Also it could be a useful composter and lawn mower.
To be young, n highly oxygenated
Still one of my favourite athroplura facts: If you could bring one to the present day it would likely live.
Who else thinks that Moth Light Media videos would be even better without music at all?
I didn't even know they did and I found them really atmospheric.
300+ millions of years of distance is just about enough for me...
Your content is some of the comfiest stuff in existence, though I do agree with other people that I miss the intro.
Some of my favorite chill relaxing science videos to listen to. If only the ads at the beginning and end weren’t so loud, and that isn’t your fault at all. XD
Remember that episode of prehistoric park?
Bugs get such a bad rep… even being the same size as an adult man, they are still harmless herbivores
What do you expect from a culture that has fetishised placental mammals and birds that much and tried to kill everything else for so long?
great video. i actually learned something new from this
I just bought you merch. I love you MothLight
Thank you! I’d like to see more videos on early evolutions of fauna.
Love this giant bug!
Could you talk about the Sirulian?
good one
Can you make a video on caviomorph evolution?
Its worth noting that coconut crabs breathe through branchiostegal lungs, not trachea
Moth Light Media for the great education content on CZcams
There is no logo in the beginning?
😓😓😓😓😓😓😓
Great episode
Wee timorous beasties in Scotland!
Happy Burns Night to all the Sottish viewers from a sassenach!
I'm out of veggie haggis and scotch and hope you all fare much better!
Wee, sleekit, cowrin, tim’rous beastie,
Does anyone know which species of beetle is shown at 9:08? I have *loads* of them in a forest near me.
man i wish they still existed id love to lay down on some funky millipede like a surfboard with legs that would be so cool i love them
I need to ride one
An armchair moves faster than Arthopleura also I doubt it could support the weight of a human
@@pattonramming1988 counter argument: i need to ride one
YASSSS!!!! GIANT creepy crawlies!
Love your videos but millipedes creep me out and knowing they were once 3 meters long will not help me fall asleep
Great vid.
A new episode for the moth light sleep club.
Big milipede named arthur
“Scattered across the east coast of Scotland”:
Isle of Arran
I guess technically it is off the east coast of a part of the mainland.
Nice 👍
I just got a pet milloped, imma sure him this to inspire him
Another animal on the list of those who could live to the very present day in some niches and become a wonderful and exotic pet. Land crocodiles and trilobites, meet a new freind.
4:36 I know he said “usually” but this gives me an excuse to bring up Hateg island which goes against this
if they think that they might be fossils of the removed outer skin of the millipedes, how do they know that the bits on the sides werent actually the stomach protection? and that they have just been folded outwards as the millipede removes its old outer skin?
Would you make a video about Mesozoic India
Arthropleura having primitive air sacs could explain why they're significantly larger than other invertebrates that were able to achieve large sizes during the Carboniferous
I wish we could bring these and the giant dragonflies back
Anything is more exciting than my birthday.
Me... running and screaming from giant horrid evil millipedes. I hate centipedes, I can totally tolerate other bugs, earwigs being another exception, but not as evil. There is something so primitive and terrifying of fast moving, squirming insects. My personal hell would be having to spend an eternity with creatures like that. Even looking at animated and still pics of them gives me shivers.
I keep thinking something must have been eating these things.
7:56 An oxygen scale in this graph would be nice. 🤷🏻♂️
MYRIAPOD ASCENDANCY LETS GOOOOOOOO 🏆🎉
(no, not you, chilopoda😅)
Always down for a new Mothlight drop. 👍 🙏
Ah, tell me it was the good ole days without saying it was the good ole days
A millipede even at that size would have pretty much been harmless right?
commenting for algorithmic purposes
Hold on.. It shows right there on the chart at 01:10 that arachnids were the first animals on land, but you say right after that millipedes were the first...
Is that because scorpions first evolved in the sea, while millipedes evolved on land?
I've like how this channel gets right into the meat of the content and has a very short intro
2:26 Looks like someone just crushed a scorpion with a stone
Imagine trying to knock this bug out with a newspaper 🗞️
comment for algorithm
The spider jumpscares 😭
commenting for the algorithm!
Millipede 🗿
Scotland !
0:56
Translation to Scots Gaelic:
tae wee beastie wan soo wee
LETS GOOOOO MILLIPEDES
Yaaaay ❤
why did the giant millipede need giant armour plates?
They dont have a skeleton so they keep the shell in order to keep their shape as well as to protect themsleves
Hate when these guys spit and break my armor in the caves. (Ark reference)
Why don’t you think about making a suggestion and creating a CZcams Videos that’s all about the Evolution Of The Pliosaurs in the next month on the next Moth Light Media coming up next?!⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👍👍👍👍👍
❤❤
Hi there, @MothLightMedia. I have two queries:
1) I joined your Patreon Community back in 2017, but the card I used to support your wonderful channel had to be replaced bc of having been violated by hackers. I’d like to update my payment information. How do I go about doing this?
2) Would you ever consider doing a speculative evolutionary video on PHYTOSAURS, and on *why*--given the many convergent evolutionary characteristics they shared with crocodilomorphs--phytosaurs went extinct, but crocodiles did not?