Phil Ivey - Decision-Making Factors
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- čas přidán 24. 09. 2014
- Phil reviews a heads up session played by Ivey League coach Apotheosis on two tables of $1,000 NL. Phil discusses the importance of taking all factors into consideration when determining the best line to take against your opponent.
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After watching a few of these ivey advice vids. I have somewhat of a clear understanding about how this guy is a world class player. Thank you for sharing your shark knowledge with a fish like me.
wow this is amazing.Hear what is happening when PHIL THINKS.
This was awesome. Thank you.
really great info here
I would not have called that river bet. I like what Phil says here about playing too robotic. I can recall quite a few live sessions where even if I had the odds and math to call I would not put another penny into the pot because I knew I was beat. Good vid.
Yeah, but that's the problem with not leading on a wet flop like that. I mean I like the flop check to take a free card and avoid trapping, but that makes your own perceived range really weak and you should therefore be calling lighter on later streets. That being said, I think that river bet sizing is super strong and that turns it into a fold, against an unknown opponent. Kinda nice for the guy to have Ivey as a coach..
lochyes That's only a problem if ur opponent exploits it. If he does start checking back medium strength hands that you can call down with. Also you could start bluff raising turns if he starts leading turns wide.
"....sure....."...biggest yawn ever
0:26
Phil Ivey for president
27 seconds in Ivey is already bored lol... He's like yea duh I am 2 million thoughts ahead
+bjaminstaples heh . lol:D ivey is the king
Ivey is the original “fuck GTO”
love poker and this videos.
Nice work :)
Sometimes I don't play enough math 😂
Lmao best advice ever tho cause fr we playing poker not math . There's math involved but we playing poker
"sometimes I don't play enough math" says the greatest poker player. Not playing enough math is the right way to do it then.
sometimes
iroyaliflush Eh. The math should inform how you play generally, and I think Ivey would be fine with my saying that. He's simply pointing out that there are specific, in-game considerations that should also be taken into account, and that in some cases those considerations should trump mathematical ones.
+iroyaliflush Math is only useful when you have close to no information on an opponent, or close to perfect information on an opponent. Everything else in between has to be based on them as a person, not a robot...
Math is overvalued in poker. It's important because it informs some guiding principles and fundamental decision making, but in reality the best players are basing their play off of their opponents and instinct
Ivey was so right on every stage of the hand
actually he wanted him to bet flop..so at least there he saved money. but calling down river is fishy for that size
Phil Ivey plays street smart poker
You can tell Ivey gets so bored with talking about theory. He's all about what is the player like. Which in cash games, smokes the shit out of GTO at almost any stakes. In my opinion, it also makes the game a lot more fun. Who wants to sit at a table and flip a coin on whether they call or not? What's the player's body language say? What do the past hands you've seen them play tell you they're likely to have in a situation like this? What does the story he is also telling you with his hand say he might have?
No disrespect to Apotheosis cuz he'd still mop my ass in any game under the Sun.
When he says, "I think I have to call here..." Phil again sticks to his guns. It's not black and white, it's not just math. This whole game is player dependent. Thanks for the great content, amazing to see how simple he makes the game. Fuck the odds and the stats. They're important to understand, but in cash games it all goes out the window depending on the player, position, and action. If you're playing the most scared player in the world, you should be raising every single hand and C-betting every board, and when you get called proceed with caution - regardless of what some solver tells you to do on each street.
I think a lot of the new wave of players who crush online tournaments have advanced the game a lot with theory, but that it is mostly for people who are playing millions of hands in tournaments, over a massive sample size of occurrences. For people playing cash, it's totally different. A lot of tournament players I know get mopped in cash... because they're all about push/shove tactics preflop, and tend to play their perceived ranges more than their actual cards, the board, and the other players in the hand - because in tournaments chips don't have the same value over time.
Great analysis, way to keep the game simple Phil. No need to do calculus in your mind to figure out you should bet with an open ender and middle pair on the button when checked to on the flop against a tight player and maybe check back against an aggressive one.
I just read my own thoughts. Nice comment!
You are not understanding poker yet , in live poker maybe this is half true but for sure not online vs elite competition
Interesting how Phil mentions "how this session is going today" any given day. I know poker is one long game but people's moods can change, sometimes they might be in a more gambl-ey mood, other days more conservative. I used to play with a guy(live) that some days he was an all-out maniac, other days like a totally different player.
On the J10 hand, I wanted to call so bad when he bet at first but then I though, "hhhmmmm that's a lot" I thought he had a Q or better or a busted draw
Check raise this check raise that bottom line is you need a donald trump size bankroll sitting on the table and a damn good hand or all that mental game shit and so called skills wont buy you a pack of gum
brian Taylor no you just need to play stakes that suit your bankroll and its about how you play all hands not just waiting for a good one. and of course if you have no bankroll like me you have to play freerolls constantly
Mr Rooney what are freerolls and what are the rewards that come with it?
brian Taylor I play on coral its a winner takes all £5 usually 40-50 people late at night or 200 in the day. I could find other freerolls but that ones every hour which is good enough
i spotted a few on WSOP tournament website
why does phil ivey have to do this?
He'll probably make more money more passively with just having a training site up and letting his team do all the work.
@@AinsleyHarriott1 Well he setup a poker site with good coaches. Obviously part of the appeal is that he's involved with it, making sure the coaches are all in top shape etc
one of the greatest players of all time..unfortunately cant coach for shit (probably doesnt want to anyway) lol
Maxim Lekov I thought he gave great advice
Its hard to coach 'play 12 hours a day for a decade and have lots of talent'
Love playing poker against other human beings ... nothing 'learned' online translates ... the people losing online are the same people losing live ... and only a small percentage on online winners can take it to the table.
why the fuck when you Google "Phil ivy net worth" it shows it then it compares his to Dan blizerians net worth?
+getoffmypage Hes pro. Lol. You can be pro poker player and suck shit. Like Fedor Holz, got lucky af.
+PRO POKER. ShipToWinIt. Lucky af yet has a consistent online and live record? Right...
Because Blizerian pays Google to make sure it's the top result. That's standard search engine practice. When you type in "new shoes", the top result isn't the best result for you - it's whichever shoe-manufacturers paid Google the most.
Online poker is good but live poker is the best 👍🏿💵💯
Agreed!
is that the pokerstars client? looks more like Bovada to me
Yes, on Bovada they have "Pokerstars" written on every table.
Cool makes sense cuz on Pokerstars they have "Bovada" written on every table. Thanks for clearing my doubts!
Good to know we have professional poker players humbling down and giving their sound advice online to fellow enthusiasts
Sanskrit I never said or implied I was a professional poker player, that's completely irrelevant. You see, my rhetoric made sense since you asked an incredibly stupid question. Trying to mock me, in this context, only goes to make you look worse. gg
move on
He must be nervous to be filmed while talking hands with ivey
I like how Ivey keeps everything simple. This guy on the other hand uses too many fancy poker nerd words with little substance.
this site and ivey in general have to be the worst poker instructors ever.
care to elaborate on why Ivey is the worst coach ever?
Patrik Antonius might be worse
There's 1 video i watched on his site where he gets quite confrontational with the interviewer who is a rec player. Phil says things like 'well what would you do then' when asked why he would do a certain play, and 'thank god' (not jokingly ) when the interviewer said they were done. The interviewer looked very uncomfortable. He also had videos where he's eating throughout and always looks like he's gonna fall asleep. Phil is the man, but he obviously has 0% passion for coaching/training poker unlike someone like Galfond.
Phil plays math, it's just exploitive math vs. GTO.
Guy bum pretending to know after you give 1/2 stack on a draw.
This video is a great showcase of what goes through phils mind, fairly basic thinking. You have so many players overlapping him today because of advanced theories. Ivey would get absolutely destroyed in high stakes online, and I think the only place Ivey should play is live.
yeah and thats whats he is doing, but still we got show some respect for the legend, and btw this video is from 3 years ago and the games use to be way esier today would be a pretty standard call
people use solvers online
it’s bs
watch him play high stakes live
his greatest skill was ability to adapt
I love how this guy has zero clue Ivey dominated online nosebleeds for years lmao
Booooooring!