Turians and Humans - Mass Effect Secrets!
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You know the 2nd NPC you speak to tells you about the first contact war right? Presley in fact.
I agree with your point; this is obvious information. But information that's just spit out at the start of the game, when you're not yet very familiar with the game, and are focused on understanding the mechanics, is easily forgettable.
The first contact war was never explained at this level of detail in game. MrRhexx is awesome.
Did ANYONE even READ the game codex??? It's all in there! But still, nice video, keep it up.
The 'first contact war' comic is called Mass Effect - Evolution (1-4)
apperently no one did..., and i think some in the treaty of farixen it says that bombarding a garden world from orbit is prohibited, but i'm not sure
yeah... "no one tells you about this", i think you can talk about the first contact war with ashley in the first game
If you play the games as many times as i have you don't need the codex
how many times did you play the triology? I think I have played them about five or six times if not more
other than ME1, which i haven't owned until recently, about as many as you
1. I just love how excited you are to "reveal" something that is a common knowledge among ME fandom.
2. The radiation on Palaven has literally nothing to do with Turians being dextro...
3. Turians never fought with Rachni, they were discovered by the Citadel races during Krogan Rebelion.
To further extrapolate on point number three. The Turians were in fact encountered near the end of the Krogan Rebellions. They were asked by the Citadel to use their fleets to fend off the Krogan. And while the Turians were by far superior in fleet combat. They could only fend off the Krogans. After the Salarians unleashed the Genophage on the Krogan (which it still doesn't explain how a species that spans the galaxy fell to a virus planted on their home world), the Turians were given a spot on the council for their help in the war.
i think the genophage was released on all krogan worlds, and then they destroyed all those worlds besides Tuchanka.
Robert Mayer no, just on Tachunka. The Krogan only had one world, since they were basically in a nuclear winter when they were discovered. Then uplifted for the racni wars.
I had believed that part of the deal with the krogan was that they got some of the rachni worlds as colonies?
Robert Mayer if I remember correctly that was part of the original deal. But they got to the point where they were taking worlds, thus began the war against them.
mass effect has a codex that explains alot of the background
KonicavaBR halo ain't for stupid people dude look at the lore for it
Halo and Mass Effect can both be loved, and not have to compete with one another!
Sometime during my playthrough of ME3 I paused the game and spent a couple of hours reading all the codex, primary & secondary, in full. It is SO interesting. Then after completion of the trilogy I started watching all the lore videos, reading the wiki pages etc. I've only been this invested into fictional lore with Halo, Mass Effect & Star Wars.
Seriously wonderful use of time. Beautifully created histories, species, stories & characters.
God damn, I would love to be on a team that created these worlds.
... The first contact war and the tension between turians and humans is explored by Nihlus, Presley, Ashley, Executor Palin, Anderson, Pinnacle Station, and an audio entry in the codex. I’m confused about the secrets part of this.
This is a surprise only for those people who don't bother checking out the codex. Or pay attention in general.
Schazmen Rassir or play the game.
"What the game doesn't tell you..." The game tells you
You ever talk to Ashely once in this game? She brings it up a lot because her grandfather was the leader who surrendered to the Turians on Shanxi. This is also mentions a lot in codex entries and is literally in the conversation you showed in the beginning of the video. I’m pretty sure you can ask why Turians hate humanity and nihilus will tell you.
I thought everyone knew about the first contact war.....
thehucklebillyfenn did you watch the whole video before you commented?
To be fair, never talking to Ashley is the moral thing to do.
@@deltasquad62 nah pretty sure they did as did the rest of us, and NONE of the info in this video is new/secret info. Hence why their comment is valid.
Turians "you can not weather the storm"
Humans: "I am the storm"
I knew about the war vaguely but I did not know how fucking awesome humans were
01:38 Uhhhhh. The game does tell you about the war. It's mentioned everywhere. Literally, everywhere in the game, the codex, side missions, and dialogue with a dozen turian and human leaders. Ashley mentions her grandfather in conversation iirc as THE first military leader to sureender to the Turians.
All of this information is in the game. So why label this video as "Mass Effect Secrets" aside from a petty attempt and securing views?
Why is every one caining the poor guy leave him alone why watch the video if ur such a mass effect nerd if u know every why u scrolling threw mass effect vids and why ain't u making the videos instead of this poor guy
@@danielmouse5436 You really don't need to be a mass effect nerd to know about the first contact war, you just need to play mass effect 1. You don't even need to read the codex, because the topic is brought up multiple time by different characters in game.
Humans: We left behind some party gifts in case you want to go for round 2
We do love our parties and the pyro(nuclear)technics that come with these...
Akoda yes we do... yes...we... do...
iirc humans didnt leave nukes in turian space - we launched rigged unmanned probes to try and find turian space - they just happened to be rigged with nukes - not sure what brilliant mind thought that one up >_< cause you know tossing nukes at random out into the vast galaxy at large couldnt possibly go wrong in any way shape or form lol
This was an amazing video. What some people don't get is that not everyone is gonna spend hours a day reading all the codex entries. This video is perfect because you summarized everything to something anyone can digest and even threw in some more obscure facts like about the illusive man and Saren's brother. I hope you do more of these in the future!
First Contact War: Humans killed a lot of Turians. Turians killed a lot of Humans. Seriously, listen to the codex.
Hayden Travis if it was the UNSC from halo that the turians fought then there would be allot more body's.
Correction Turians killed a lot of humans and Humans killed a lot more Turians
Ashley Williams had a lot of good positions after meeting Shepard
dear god...
(Tali 4 lyf)
grimerime23 you're not wrong
ayyy
+grimerime23
Tali is worst LI
@Matt Allen (I'm the same guy you replied to, but I'm on a different account) That's fair enough,
were you a Liara kinda guy? lol
The First Contact War has been mentioned and referenced throughout the series. How were you not aware of that? In fact, much of the galactic distrust in humanity comes from the human race being arguably the "youngest" of the sentient races, like a child vying for a spot at the adult table. The war left some bad blood between humans and turians and human colonization got some bad blood from the batarians.
Wait, but the game DOES tell you this! On Pineapple, I mean Pinnacle Station!
Yeah, but that's a DLC.
And the ps3 version doesn't have that dlc
Who cares about consoles?
And it still counts even though it's DLC.
Cloud Angel play the game for 15 minutes and you’ll know about this.
Mass effect would make an interesting Netflix series.
literal sarcasm I remember watching a CZcams channel that had this game play out like a TV show. It was well done
literal sarcasm YES!! Or a telltale games series
literal sarcasm I really want to see mass effect series in either Netflix or hulu but no CW please,I was thinking could be animation or live action with the best or worst cgi ever.
Vicent Serrano I'd like to see it made by the people who did alerted carbon
A live action would be amazing, but like most video game movies it'd get put in the wrong hands and be totally fucked up.
How stupid and prideful can the Citadel council get. Humanity wasn't in Citadel space and weren't under citadel jurisdiction. What right does the citadel have to set rules and regulations for races and civilizations that haven't met them yet and punish said races under a set of laws that couldn't and had not been known to them. The rest of the Galaxy would consider Humanity as a bunch of barbaric warmongers because of this even when we were shot at for something we didn't and couldn't know was wrong by people we couldn't have met yet or even dreamed of existing. Not to mention the Turians invaded and occupied one of our colony's even after just showing up and shooting..
Well, from what I got, the Citadel council didn't actually enforce anything on us, the Turians did without consulting anyone.
Well, actually the only enforce rules like the AI ban or the opening of new relays which can be dangerous to the whole galaxy, which is kinda understandable. I mean if somewhere something would be invented which might be able to end all life on earth, don't you think that the governments of the world would try to avoid that at any cost?
I mean they could've just you know SAID THAT to us. I mean they just showed up and started shooting and its us Humans who are seen as Barbaric warmongers. If they had just explained things and you know done first contact correctly none of this crap would've happened its just the Turians for all their abilities apparently had a lapse in logical thinking. I mean when a person is caught speeding do police just "pop a cap" in the guy, no they turn on their lights and pull them over.
This makes me wonder: If the Asari, Salarians, and Turians run the galaxy and rule from the Citadel, what was to stop the Korgans, the Quarians, the Batarians, and even the humans from teaming up and starting their own council?
I mean, at any time, the other species could have easily started a galactic war if they convinced the lower class to join the humans.
Relay 314 incident
vexile12
You damn Turian
CPU Purple Heart/Neptune lololol
Ah man, I need a mass effect trilogy remaster!!
Well I have some news for you.
Done
This info is mostly available in the Codex of the games. So it's not really a secret. People should pay more attention to the Codex itself since it gives more detail about the Mass Effect universe than the in-game dialogs.
I swear they explain the whole Us and Turians thing in the backstory codex's in ME 1. They get into the wars and repear encounters. Arachni was I believe the most recent which caused the whole genophage thing since the krogan became limited time war MVPs.
I feel like this is common knowledge for really any real mass effect fan. but whatev'es
“Real mass effect fan” what you gotta know this to like the game series?
Zack Thoreson I think this is common knowledge. You don’t have to be a “real” fan. Just play the first 15 minutes and you’ll know.
M4 Y20 I’m just wondering who watched this video that didn’t know these things. Idk. This was 5 months ago.
It is I haven’t even played any of the games and I know this
The game tells us on multiple occasions about the first contact war, it is no way a secret. The Turians were not apart of the Rachni wars as they first contacted the Citadel midway through the Krogan rebellions.
even though I knew about turian-human history I love that you made a Mass Effect video.
PLEASE!!! continue to make Mass Effect videos! this is by far my favorite game series out there, right next to Elder Scrolls and Fallout.
now, I've already gone through "almost" every single codex in the game, but you don't have any idea about how good it is hearing
it instead of reading it. Especially in your sexy (no homo) voice lol.
Much love
a long time subscriber
I love the lore of the Mass Effect world and knew of the war, and of the Turian saltiness, but never guessed how intertwined those were together. Thanks for clarifying so many details!
Made my day to get to watch a Mass Effect video that I haven't already seen. Love Mass Effect and can't get enough of it! I really enjoy your channel, wishing you the best and happy hunting!
This games have so much potential it's unbelievabile. I hope they give it another shot in the next years and bring the old feeling back to life.
it would be cool if the made a prequel to the series about the 1st contact war. me3's combat system was really cool
Agreed. IMO, first half of the game could be 1st Contact War (after all, it was a brief and rather small war), and the 2nd half could be about exploration of this new wider, galactic society that opened up to humans after the Contact War. The protagonist might even be the Illusive Man. That would be cool IMO :P
Ooh, a story about the fall of the Illusive Man. That would be interesting.
"Where is this coming from?" I could nerd out for a long time about the First Contact War (the Relay 314 Incident to the Turians) and why Turians resent humanity. "What the game doesn't tell you?" All this information is freely available in the game and no one should be unaware.
More Mass Effect, hell yes!
He's saying all this like the codex doesnt explain anything... like the game itself doesn't tell you if you actually talk to npcs... i mean talk to anderson foe christs sake! he was in the first contact war! then play 2 and 3 and there's nothing to question in backstory and lore because it's all right fucking there!
The game does tell you why they hate humans. Numerous times actually... Not to mention to codex tells you more details about literally everything. Makes me kind of wonder how much of this game youve actually played lol.
Even though the subject isn't as secret as you first believed, your enthusiasm is on another level and I love that. :)
The real kick in the ass for Turians is that the humans did not have access to the technologies collectively created by the citadel. 9mm handgun verses avenger, lol.
Great video! Very interesting.
.... they literally talk about it in the first game. Ever heard of the codex???
You don't even need to look at the codex, just talk to executor Palin, Ashley, or Anderson
The first contact war is explained perfectly fine through out the trilogy...
God damn this is just full of mistakes,
- Turians used the genophage on the Krogan, the Salarians just developed it as a weapon of last resort
- Turians are dextro yes, but that has nothing to do with their homeworld's weak magnetic field that didn't cause them to be dextro it just meant they evolved an exoskeleton
- Turians weren't on the council during the Rachni War, they didn't join the council until after the Krogan Rebellion, before that they either hadn't made contact with any Citadel Races or were a minor species in Citadel Space
- During the First Contact War the Systems Alliance fleet was very small (only around 200 ships spread across a decently large chunk of space spread very thin) and the only reason it won at Shanxi was because basically the whole fleet could be brought to bear in that single battle against a relatively small number of Turian ships not because the human fleet was exceptionally big or powerful
- You say human had a "good number" of dreadnoughts, there would have only been a maximum of 3 dreadnoughts, probably 2 and probably fairly small dreadnoughts like the Everast class (which is less than 900m). Considering that during the first game the Systems Alliance is considerably larger and better established with more resources at hand to build a fleet with and it only has 6 dreadnoughts (still one of the larger dreadnought forces in the galaxy at the time but far behind the Turians, Salarians or Assari ) you can't claim that humans had a good number of dreadnoughts and make it sound like we had a couple of dreadnought squadrons ready to go without giving context
- A war against humanity wouldn't have been long or particularly costly for the Turians at the time of the First Contact War at that point humanity had very little to defend itself with. The Council stopped the war because their policy isn't to immediately conquer a race they've just made contact with, generally they want to peacefully integrate species into Citadel space because that's generally far more beneficial for the Council (they're new people to sell things to and it's easier to sell things to people with a working economy and it's less expensive than wreaking their planets and that aforementioned economy).
None of this was hidden in the games at all, it was talked about in conversations, explained in the Codex, some of it was pivotal to the storyline even, especially the stuff about the Genophage. A few minor details were brought up in other media like books and comics but the bulk was clearly explained in the games.
Corey Micallef also the mistakes about the rachni to they was controlled by the reapers the prothean confirmed this in me3 dlc
You’re doing the lords work my dude. I would have had to make this list if you hadn’t already done it. Papa bless.
I love your DND videos and these! Great for at work
The Turian’s weren’t introduced to galactic civilization until after the Rachni War and during the Krogan Rebellion. That law surrounding the Relays was already in place by the time they joined the Citadel Council.
Great vid and I love Mass Effect; more vids please.
I remember Mass Effect telling us about the First Contact War though if you did the right side-quests and dialogues.
keep the mass effect videos coming
Though the rachni war was primarily due to reaper influence
A like your narrations, I already knew the story from ingame information, but the way you talked it was more enjoyable
Mass effect did a good job in writing department of giving you different sourses on same topic of lore
Game Ideas:
"Mass Effect - First Contact War"
"Mass Effect - Rachni Threat"
"Mass Effect - Krogan Glory"
Love video's like this i am such a fan of the mass effect universe and cant get enough. wich is why i watch these video's
"the humans, were a fucking threat" lolol that gave me a good laugh. I always knew that turians were salty about the first Contact War. And I thought I knew everything about it but I guess not. good video man. Man I miss stories that were this fleshed-out Mass Effect will always be my favorite sci-fi story
How is it not in Mass Effect 1? There is a codex entry about the First Contact War.
5:07 damn bro those baby krogans got me in. Y feels man
Rhexx my dude. You should 100% do a mass effect lets play
I'm pretty sure the alliance (humanity) collected most of the nuclear probes, and only a few were left because they didn't respond to the recall signal and thus couldn't be collected/investigated without drawing attention to the effort. Though, I'd prefer to double check, but that'll be days before I could be back at that mission again.
More Mass Effect! More Mass Effect! Its really good :)
Just a thought whilst watching but there’s a historical war called the opium war between the British empire and the Chinese that still sours relations today between China and the west. It wasn’t a first contact war but many of the stigmas the British got were similar to the the systems alliance. Unlike the systems alliance though some were quite valid. Maybe an inspiration for the mass effect team
First contact war??? The back story between Sarin and Anderson? Common man!
Iv allways had my mind blown by the first contact war
I know this vid is two years old but I’ve only just found it and you’ve probably been told this a million times, the games tell you over and over again about the first contact war, literally the first 2 people you speak to in the game tell you about it, in all the games they talk about the big events of the first contact war too such as Shangxi
Actually in m e 1 you can learn pretty quickly that saren hates humans from talking to Anderson and the turians and humans had a relatively recent war, if you get 1st place in all the simulations, the admiral on the pinnical station unlocks a special mission based on a mission he was on in the first contact wars vs the turians it was actuallt pretty cool attention to detail it fit very well in the game.
The game tells you about the First Contact War its in the Codex.
Nigga who reading that i’m here to shoot space guns on aliens
Just read through the in-game codex in the menu. All of the lore is explained there
There is a nice short book about how Saren found Sovereign called Revelation. It tells about the time Anderson worked with Saren and lost the chance of becoming a specter due to Sarens brutality. Man Saren is just brutal.
I'm almost interested enough to give it a go
First Contact War. Mass Effect gives everything to work with.
I got all excited thinking this was about more intimate stuff
I don't have the game but I'm just getting interested in the saga, thank you very much for the video
Oh this was a coincident just finished my second playthrough of the trilogy
The game tells you about the First Contact War if you speak with Pressly before meeting Nihlus
About those probes... Well the Turians cant complain, they had a FUCKING PLANET BUSTER BOMB on the Krogan Homeworld after the war.
Fastest 17 mins of my life,Keep this up MrRhexx!You're the best!
Worth noting that the Turians don't consider it a "war". They refer to it as the Relay 314 Incident
love your videos. though this is the only one i knew almost all of it because im a massive mass effect nerd.
You do Mass Effect content too? YES!
Makes me so fuckin proud to be human knowing how badass to say the least we are
wow krogan mounts look cool :D
Shepard shouting : do you want to live forever!?!
0:11
The entire point of that line is to get the player wondering. And when you gain control of your character, you're given a notification that you have new Codex entries.
'What does that mean?' you might ask yourself. So you pause the game, see Codex in the menu, and open it up to discover that it's a literal encyclopedia of the Mass Effect universe, including the First Contact War between the Turians and Earth.
I LOVE MASS EFFECT SO MUCH !!!!!!!!
This is inaccurate. This "Golden Age" predated the Turians being part of the Citadel. The Asari and the Salarians were working together, got screwed by the Rachni, uplifted the Krogans, beat the Rachni, got attacked by the Krogans, met the Turians, got the Turians to join them, beat the Krogans, then ran into the humans.
Also, I don't think the Turians developed reverse chirality due to the nature of their sun. It's just a roll of the dice for evolution.
Please do Illusive Man secrets, he's my favorite character in the Mass Effect universe
Damn, and I thought i gave lot's of attention to Mass Effect saga and background... Good job.
Hm... reminds me of my surprise when the Turians had an apocalypse system in tuchanka in case the Krogan came back full force and how bad that seemed....imagine how surprised the characters would be if they knew humans had a NMAD(not mutually assured destruction) system in place for the turians.
The first contact with is pretty well versed in mass efffect so no it is not out of nowhere.
I already know all this I read the Codex and listen to it it's in there
Sorry but Tyranids (and their rippoff from Starcraft - Zerg) are very inteligent. We are talking about hive minds that can consciously manipulate DNA.
Xardis Hive *mind* ,there’s only one.
No, there is 2, the Tyranid and the zerg (Also the zerg kinda have multiple since their hive fleets each have a seperate hive fleet (I think) and the genestealers definitely do)
Lion Hamster genestealers are independent,they don’t rely on the hive mind for anything until more tyranids enter the area it marked for them,whereupon the hive mind overrides its independence and forces it to fight with the others.I don’t know much about the zerg,but I know an absolute fuck-Ton about the nids.
The broodmind isn't THE hivemind but it is a hive mind, the zerg also have a bunch kinda, they aren't hiveminds at all, just minds that control hives
Lion Hamster you’ve got a point,I think I read somewhere once that each norn-Queen interprets the hive minds will differently,and as such each fleet is entirely unique,see “leviathan,” “kraken,” “hydra.”
Wow, I had no idea how epic humans were in the mass effect series. Kicking Turian asses? damn
Can you do a theory on humans vs turians but on a full scale war and who win based on evaluation on technology,experience,resources and etc.basically a versus video
Hey bro, you will make more D&D videos?
Contos Obscuros i hop he does
It would be interesting to have an Asari or a krogen friend .
I miss this game so much ah the hours in the ME1
Plus the turians are also known for domiating and vassalizing lesser races, this is mentioned in several places and two turians state thisas the turians intent in a recording from the war, when two turians were interogating a captured human soldier.
1 kilometers long dreadnoughts!! Love how you said it
2:36 That would make a great mass effect dlc
Turians look bird like and the codex in the games tells you a massive amount of all of this
The first contact war against the Turians man!
Lol people did pay attention to the codex and references to 1st contact War although cool video.
Love the Lore. 🥰