João Palhinha is NOT RIGHT for Arsenal...
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Paulina is the decoy - we’re leading Chelsea to spend 90-100m on him - then we go for the real target
Lol
True we always hide our true target😂
Paulinha is too old for Chelsea, and they need a striker more😂
😂
I think you’ve come at this from slightly the wrong perspective. We need 15-18 players who are good enough to start for us. Palhinha isn’t necessarily going to start every game but there’s plenty of situations where he’d be useful both with and without Rice imo.
Not for £60/70/80m, sunshine!
Given how PGMOL is swift to punish arsenal for soft fouls... this guy will be a target for penalties and red card for us
How about a video on potential signings that could add value to the squad for our supposed title race? Great video once again, eagerly waiting for the next one! :D
Palinha as a 6, Rice as an 8 could be defensive solidity unlike we’ve ever seen before. However, our problem isn’t really with the defensive side of things, it’s the line breaking passes that we kind of lack (especially with Partey being out), so I think a Zubimendi could be that key player. While I certainly understand Arteta wants defensive solidity, I don’t want it to be at the detriment of our attack
I feel us targeting Pahlinha is an indication of us shifting the emphasis of progression to other players and the 6 being just a defensive screen that can mop up gaps all over the pitch and win us balls high up the pitch. Palhinha will be the backup 6 and play with Rice in games where we need solidity. People have to forget the Partey like 6 option. Our over reliance on him killed us for 2 seasons. We relied on his ball progression and his defensive tackles too much. Now we dont rely on one player to progress the ball especially the 6 and leave just the defensive role to them. This just means Alex's earlier video of Mikel moving away from Zinny soon is not going to come true and he is going to be a long term LB for us along with Timber and Tomi. Kai Havertz will be the 8 long term for us. We wont buy a LCM like lot of fans want.
@@chandrashekharkumar3265spot on I think Charlie patino will be competing with havertz for the LCM next season and we will definitely replace partey in January or the summer window I just hope jorginho and elneny get replaced with 1 competent player too
I think our offence will be fine. Rice can comfortably take on that Xhaka role with Paulinha protecting the back line. Also, Paulinha would give us better protection in case of a rice injury than Jorginho. Or if Saliba gets injured, I bet Rice could do a job at CB with Paulhina as the 6. It gives us a ton of versatility and options.😊
I have the same idea. As an n8, the ideal guy is Douglas Luiz. I think he's giving world class performances at villa. I see his matches, he does everything
@@chandrashekharkumar3265i agree and thats a good think. Our defence is the best of the Champions League at this point. The best or second best of PL too. If Rice play n8 and we have a Palinha 6, with Tomi and Timber available, our defence would be the best since 1998 and thats what it should be.
You win trophies for years with defence. And defence is a back 6+ gk
What you are saying about Palhinha's passing is the same thing people have been saying about Rice. The way team plays has an impact on that.
Rices passing accuracy, long ball and forward passes were already some of the best in Europe at West Ham
Accuracy is different from vision and execution while taking risks. Partey is so good at finding teammates in between the lines with his perfectly timed and weighted passes. Unfortunately most of Rice accurate passes up till now have been sideways. Although he does break lines with his dribbling from time to time.
@@amithnambiar9867that’s literally the only thing rice is missing he doesn’t think fast enough to give them slick passes and that’s why odergaard is dropping deeper to receive the ball to dictate but other than that declan is superior to partey
Its crazy, I was thinking Francis Coqulien as you were describing his limitations and the need for a creative CM(like cazola) to cover up for this.
The saddest part in all of this is that we have the answer right within our midst: Thomas Partey. But, oh well
The injured answer is a no answer. Plus this summer there will be some cleaning in the middle (Partey sold, Elneny end contract, Jorginho maybe out...)
Douglas Luiz looks incredible. Very well rounded CM
They will never sell to us
He’s worth 500 million villa would never sell him especially if they’re in a title race
@@saranr2176title race is crazy .. top 4 race makes sense .. they have tielemans so it’s possible
It would easily cost 70-80 million for Douglas Luiz & Fulham might let Pahlinha go for 60-65 million. Luiz is a much better option but might be the summer signing.
Palhinha is coming in to improve defensive stability down the middle of the park. We are a Ben White injury away from playing Cedric at RB since timber and tomiyasu aren’t fit until after new years. It would benefit us greatly
If we sign Paulinha then Arteta wants to play with
3CBS-Gabriel Saliba White
2CDMS-Rice and Palinha
4AMf-Martinelli, Kai, Ode, Saka
ST-Jesus
?Who is playing full-back/wing-back in that line-up?
No f#*king way is arteta not playing a zinchenko/timber in defence
@@tez4792 Check Pep's line up
This guy will be world class in our team , he will allow arsenal to be very offensive and defensively strong , no more rashford counter attacks , when was the last time you saw arsenal with two big midfielders,
Probably Viera nd petit / viera nd Gilberto , that could be Rice nd Paulinho , allowing saka and martinelli space
Arsenal could play 442 again, with two strikers , like Toney nd Jesus or Osimehn and Jesus ,
The options are endless , he’s experienced and has high work rate for the team what we defo need , his tackles will add a new steal and he’s technically gifted , can hit long rangers to free kicks 😎
His passing struggle cos Fulham don’t impose themselves on teams they play to win, which he does very well at helping them
Hmm... No big clubs does 442 anymore.
@@petertan_sg City?
@@domagojhrgovic7419they dont play 442
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with the goals we have in the team now I'm not concerned with our attack. get a defender and a cm and we can win the title
A video of your thoughts of what our chances getting Oshimehn by the summer?
Paulinha is right for Arsenal. You got it at the end when looking at his versatility. He brings a great amount of flexibility to Arsenal, not to mention cover for every position from full-back to number 8. The key attribute he has for me is his ability to cover for Declan Rice should he need to be absent for injury or rest. Without Declan Rice, this team does not work. Unless Partey miraculously returns from the dead and isn't sold, we'd be left with Jorginho at the 6. As great as he is on the ball, we completely lose control of the game out of possession without Rice's ability to cover an entire 3rd of the pitch by himself. How many other players can do that Rice role? Certaintly Paulinha is one of only a few who can get close.
Good analysis. I think most fans had this feeling about the Palhinha rumors. To play devils advocate though, what did Rice's numbers look like at West Ham? Have his passing stats not increased significantly since coming to Arsenal? I honestly dont know, but I remember Caicedo looking like a much better passer than Rice last season. But now this ssn, just guessing, but I suspect that probably doesnt pan out. The difference would be the team/system, Brighton vs Chelsea for Caicedo and West Ham vs Arsenal for Rice . So, could one not argue that Palhinha's stats are moreso a product of Fulham rather than a reflection of his potential in an Arsenal side? I dont remember Ramsdale having great distribution from the back on Sheffield before coming to Arsenal, for instance. So idk, just a thought
...and still some people still criticize rice passing, he doesn't take those risks in passing in-between the lines like partey usually does and I feel he's still learning jow to do that, flipping all that in six months just to start again with paulinha, just doesn't make sense, in my opinion I think we need like a more physical jorginho type of player, a deep lying playmaker that can dictate from the back, e.g zubimendi
I’m convinced this guy backwards chains ( Conclusion > Justification > Theorem) by coming up with the title first and justifying it, instead of looking at the requirements of our team first, providing a solution, and then coming up with the title. First Toney, now Palhinha. I think he would be a good replacement for Jorginho and could maintain our midfield squad depth in the future. Toney would give us a target man for goals and let’s not forget he’s premier league proven and very interested in joining us (like Rice). I think they would both be good signings and might be what push us that extra mile to actually win a title.
If he signs that means we are evolving again. That could mean a new FB model where we attack in wide spaces with a block 4 to defend. Evolution brother. When you assess a player and he has the,word ‘most’ next to a lot of bars then I’m open to what we can be with him
Facts, elite-level football is NOT about only buying CERTAIN player profiles, it is about buying ANOMOLY player profiles. If you have players with certain DOMINANT characteristics and cater your style of play towards their strengths, you will be near unbeatable.
As long as they are not all "one-tick pony" type of players and more rounded to balance the team.
With Partey out injured and up for sale and Jorginho out of contract in the summer, that leaves Rice alone in the midfield. Though not decent enough, I would take Palinha as a replacement for Jorginho or Partey. On the other hand, it's either Douglas Luiz or Zubimendi that must be our priority signing.
Arteta is to try and to cover for rice in case of an injury because if we don't have him we have to change our whole style of play. He wants the next closest player to Rice, in terms of being a one man destroyer. If he is happy to be a squad player at times he would be an astute signing.
You need to compare the stats with Rice at West Ham. It does not make much sense to compare an Arsenal midfielder to a Fulham midfielder with the difference in average possession and field tilt.
I hope Arsenal can somehow trick Real Madrid to loan Camavinga to them in January.
My 'reliable' Arsenal sources said nothing about Palhinha. Pure journalism content BS. He is too physical to play for Arsenal, will easily targeted by ref for booking. Yes, we still have that problem. On going since 2004.
I put it to you like this, what if:
Jorgi and Partey are going next Summer
Arteta wants security for that area for the 2nd half of the season at DM (fit security)
Arteta wants to bring in a young DM next summer and wants him to learn from vets
Zini or Timber could spend most of the match in Midfield with Rice and JP behind them
Fulham are apparently getting Andrea and we helped them out on the Leno deal so we could get lucky dealing with them (Loan with Obli?)
Rice-JP on European nights sounds very, very good
I don't know, I could be rambling but I'm not against the deal.
Who is JP
@@iykeharrison9161 Jao Palhina
@@iykeharrison9161paulinha
I strongly disagree. Pahlinha as a 6 with Declan progressing forward would be the ultimate midfield balance. Considering Saliba and Gabriel behind these two, our structure would give the ability to defend and control games.
Control isnt an issue for us tho. Its attacking and breaking down low blocks. Declan Rice is one of the best DMs in the world so why waste that? Why not get a world class attacking mid instead of putting Rice in a position hes not his best in
We’ve already purchased Havertz. Jorginho and Partey will be leaving soon. The situation I described is ideal for tough away nights in the champions league.
Leaving "soon". i dont think mikel intends to sell them in january. We have proved that we have the capability to control games and defend well against top teams. Like i said, its our attack that hasnt clicked as well and getting a world class attacking mid will be worth so much more to us going forward facing low blocks than a player who is a worse declan rice.
Janurary - A versatile ready to hit the ground CB and a young prospect CDM who could one day replace Partey/Jorgi and play alongside Rice in big games
Summer - A new in-his-prime CF and a pacey RB who's basically a winger a-la-frimpong, that can replace Saka for final 10 mins of some games
This for me would complete our Squad for the next season while maintaining a title-charge this year
Jesus would leave if a new in-his-prime cf joined :(
No he won't . Firstly his injury record isn't yet in the clear, and secondly he can take a shift to the right to cover Saka (if not entire 90, even 60mins is immense) if we have an actual lethal new shiny CF. It can work.
Arteta wanted both Rice and Caicedo from the beginning, Rice as the 6 and Caicedo as the inverting RB. That’s what I think he wants with Palhinha. He wants someone that can run all across the pitch with Rice. That was the plan with Caicedo. Rice will be driving with the ball wile Palhinha just sits and waits for a transition. With Palhinha Arsenal will become one of the most defensively solid teams the world has ever seen.
What Arsenal need to do is go into Jan buy a CM/Box-Box mid to balance the mid and provide a strong defensive backup to whover is the DM but also isn't afraid to go forward with the ball bit like Xhaka but more attacking cause we haven't got a player like that just DM and CAM's. And a ST to provide Arsenal with another option, competition and possibly take over from Jesus. Cause lets face it Eddie ain't the one.
Douglas Luiz
He simply wouldn't be starting. He would be a back up. We're moving further away from Partey simply because of his injuries. We need enough quality rotation in the defense as well.
You sneaky bastard. The old switcheroo right at the end there!
You are right. We are 1 bench away from Cedric. Not to take anything away from Cedric, but with today's wingers, is he able to handle the likes of Doku, Diaz, Johnson, etc. Cedric has passed his prime and is purely a player for the cups.
And don't forget that Zinc has been sus in defense too. Timber was supposed to be our talisman on LB.
I have been worried about this issue way before pre-Tomi injury. Why our attack could play so freely this season is that our defence has picked up the pieces. We have seen how attack were over-stretched last season when we concede stupid goals.
Right now, we have plenty on top. We have Trossard, Nelson, ESR, Vieira, Nketiah, Partey and Jorginho. We are pretty much stacked. But imagine a back 4 with only 1 decent defender on bench. Don't forget that White has to run the entire length of pitch to support Saka, and Zinc has to invert to support Havertz.
In short, I totally support TDK that we need another defender. Not sure if it is world class quality or someone on par at White/Gabriel level (Saliba-likes would be too expensive).
Anyway, if we are going to get a striker while sacrificing defence, please guarantee that he can score at least 3 goals per match, and doesn't have an injury tendency.
With quality we have he will fit in.
you forget that we had the same worries with Jorghinhos passing when we were linked with him... Chelsea fans kept saying he only passed backwards... that is not what he is doing now... and I don't think it would be too different with Palhinha... he would be coming to a team more confident on the ball... with better structure... his passing will improve...
Imagine a double pivot of rice and paulinha at UCL away days😭😭
I read the same type of ideas when we were linked to Rice. About rice struggles in clean first pass. I think you just underestimated the effect of 10 top players around you unlike at Fulham. Your mindset changes when you are surrounded with top players, you feel safer. As its happening for Rice
In the summer City bid for Rice. Now why would they do that if they already had Rodri? Chew on that for a bit and this transfer starts making a little bit more sense.
We did also try Partey as iwb on the right. That took time and training, though. Not seamless.
Palinha gave us nice options for CDM and CB. On both positions we need cover from experienced player in order to deliver when asked.
I think Arteta should go for a back 3 defense in the future! If this signing go through. Gabriel, Saliba and white/Tiber. This signing as a left back when defending
Saliba got injured last season and we started losing and drawing
They said he's our partey replacement and if it's really he would not play or play as a RB or LB
Could be on to something. He used Partey as a full back earlier in the season
Partey/Jorginho/Palinha in DM
Rice/Havertz/Odegaard in AM
All rotating interchangeably depending on fatigue and opposition…
Swap pahliniha for fofana and I'm with you
With Paulinha we could push so many more players forward, and that’s if he played 6. He can play rb and lb. Think about it, with his coverage, we could push 2 more players up, basically playing 2 strikers and a fullback (if we play 4 at the back) way forward. I would personally play 3-3-4 with Paulinha, with playing
White-Saliba-Gabriel
Odegaard- Paulinha- Rice
Saka- Jesus- Havertz- Martinelli
That would be our best team in decades
also reuell walters is another option arteta is actually open to
I want him, we have a defender crisis, but we still have to get a striker locked in before Joao
What about the future? Signing aged effective player for 3 tesrs then replace with academy talents
Could you look at the Antwerp player, Arthur Vermeeren? He might be an interesting talent.
Paulina could allow Rice play as a make shift Cb/ Rb if we are light in the mid
Remember where Partey played before he got injured?
Now that I think about it Partey wasn't as bad at Right back. We used to slate his performances for apparently causing the team to be less fluid but we've now realised that it is the style of play we have chosen. And Saka is supposed to be on his own in our system.
Saka was not a left back, he just covered there.
We are quite light in the DM department. Jorginho, El Neny and Partey are the wrong side of 30 and will increasingly be unavailable due to injuries. Maybe an alternative would be to train one of the defenders into a DM (someone like Kiwior?) .. but we are also light in defense.
We are one injury away from Elneney playing in the middle
Thoughts on Viktor Gyökeres being brought in as an alternative strike option?
Even as a right winger to ease pressure on Saka
I hadn’t thought of that, but with his tenacity and some good coaching I can see him thriving in our system
A very good player
You should do a podcast with James AFTV it will be a belter
Fofana?
Arteta tried Rice at CB against psv in the champions league. I think you got it spot on at the end. Palhinha & Rice could be a versatile pair of monsters who can play dm or cb whenever mikel wants which gives adequate cover for saliba and gabriel
I think definitely sign him. He might not be able to retain the ball the same way jorginho or rice can but he can definitely play 6 and play relatively simple passes and dominated defensively allowing rice to do his thing further forward
But why not get a great attacking midfielder then? We all know Declan is better as a 6 and he says he feels his best there. Why waste his immense defensive ability?
The issue here is providing that backup for Rice. You can't just bank on Rice playing every single game of the season and you know how instrumental he has been to the defensive backline. Honestly wouldn't mind palhinha BUT only if the fees are reasonable (unlikely however?) and as mentioned arteta has actual plans for him to play multiple roles as DM and abit of a fullback role which would be interesting. At the moment in Jan ideally although most of us yearns for a top ST, i think due to injury concerns the 2 priorities will be CDM and DF. ST will be pushed out to summer again. I don't like it because i worry for Gabby J staying fit throughout. Let's just keep our hopes and prayers in check n back the team. COYG
But we have 3 DMs. Yes the quality and availability isnt the same as Rice but we have far bigger issues that that. I do agree with palhinha maybe playing on the backline, that might be good. But there are far more important players we need rather than another expensive DM
@@marcjy5228but do you think it makes sense to pay 60-70mill for a soon to be 29 years player, that isn't really robust in how he plays, we could get younger players like zubimendi, youssef fofona etc for cheaper
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“he’s not being brought in to be rices understudy” yeah he is he’s being bought to be the backup dm
i agree there are options i’d prefer but i feel a lot of the confusion in this video can be cleared by realizing that yeah we’re paying 50m for a guy who’s just a backup
0:28 Caicedo - wow - don’t hear much about him anymore…! 🙃
I think he will play the role similar to John stones drifting into midfield from CB.
I love your content, positivity, and intelligence.
What’s with the Cedric hate? He was signed as a backup and played as well as he could. He also hasn’t made many mistakes, certainly when he does, it’s not as ugly as Rayas
Arsenal need to focus on getting a striker someone that can score goals regularly
I think Palinha would be our "Stones" a center back who's comfortable going slightly up
The season has ended and we won nothing. Not to mock Arsenal but Palhinha this summer if Partey were to be sold will help a lot for European nights away. Gilberto Silva was a similar player invincible, who later played alongside Fabregas & got us to the final in 2006
Too much focus on ball dominance no focus on ball concession which will happen naturally because there are solid counter attacking teams.
Maybe if we go trophyless 5 years on the bounce a 29 year old screener wouldn’t be that bad.
Every boxer must have a good chin.
The last two minutes of the video summed up my exact thoughts. Here are a few others if you care to read them:
1. Coaching: Taking a look at Arsenal players under Arteta's reign, they all either go up a level or leave trying. No stagnation. Palhinha will be no different, with the only issue being the heavy price-tag, as you mentioned.
2. His profile is very interesting, though. He can step into midfield from the back line or, depending on personnel, drop from midfield to cover either left or right in our back 5. He can also partner Rice in midfield in the big games, and oh my god does that make me wet 😋
3. However, a profile we're really lacking is a left-footed Benjamin White. That way we'd have a complete, versatile back line. I know, some will say Kiwior is going to be it, but his passing is too good to take from the centre of the pitch, and he's not as big an athlete as White is.
Palinha as a full back gives me Partei at rb vibes
I desperately want ousmane diamande of sporting. I think as a defender he can play either RB, RCB, and he’s good enough to cover LCB if we aren’t completely comfortable with kiwior playing there. Also, he allows Saliba to get a little bit of rest
Price is the barrier
So…we won’t do,it
I can see it happening. If Mikel wants him, he will find a way to make it work
I would also prefer a more creative no6 to pair with Rice
Just waiting for Arteta to sign Paulinha to play CF. Inverted 6 = 9.
Why's Viera still in any conversation?
🗣️
I like the idea of him being more defensive fit, but not at that age
Hope we can sell Partey to help fund moves.
I reckon Arteta wants another more consistent inverted option and Palhinha can provide that.
If we losse party and elneny is also set to leave and sambi lokonga is going to be sold then i think patino and palinha will be good for the depth and tactics
Interesting ,but will he accept being at bench as a backup CB ?
Palhinha is coming to replace Partey. What does this mean? He'll play alongside Declan in the bigger games. He'll play Right Back and Invert, with Timber or Tomi/Kiwi on the other side. He'll play CB and go up into the midfield a la Stones. He's a younger, more defensively assured, less injury prone Partey without a looming scandal.
Rice needs a parner in midfield a tough guy... Thomas Partey is on joke time with injuries... We have no time for Partey's shenanigans cause we going on 20 years with no epl trophy
We need enough experience, physicality an versatility,partey is good but he's prone to injuries
As much as it feels liberating to know beforehand what players clubs are gonna sign (thanks to the emergence of Fabrizio Romano and David Ornstein) the namedropping of Arsenal's potential signings by these guys doesn't sit very well. It feels like we're doing the scouting for other clubs by pinpointing players our club is considering. Just like happened with Mudryk.
I mean it's not like Palhinha is some crazy hidden gem, I'm 100% certain other PL clubs have analysed his stats as well
@@rynabuns It's not just Paulinha
1. You're saying Coquelin would fetch 80m in this market. That could mean the leagues have dropped in standards and quality.
2. Arteta maybe wants Palhinha for CL. He thinks he has a shot, & he's going to take it.
3. If Arteta & his very large team think he's going to fit, then maybe they've got it figured out.
Why we are still linked with so many midfielder? We are stacked in that area, whether it's loanee and academy players who had huge potential. What are we, midfielder FC?
What we need is natural No 9 to have an option beside jesus, then proper backup for saliba and saka. We need set a priorities right first before talking midfield area again
Partey injuries
My question, what happens if Rice is Injured? Signing Joao Palinha would be a better cover than having Jorginho.
Just my opinion though.
I'm very sure Chelsea will hunt for Osimhen for Jackson rotation so I don't think we'll win the bid war with Chelsea
We need a backup to Rice. Partey lacks availability and Jorginho isn't a long term solution.
We need to poach Mainoo from United
I think arteta is building the most physical domestic league team in Europe
Why did we loan out Tierney?? Doesn't look such a great decision now.
To Injury prone I guess to be reliable
He got injured in 5 games,,😅😅😅
Palhinha Inverted RB/RCB is sooo interesting
Maybe this is irrelevant to this video . Please upload your review about Aston Villa match .. i am actually waiting for the video 🙏👍
4:12 "Rice's passing is underrated" but Alex in the summer u said It was superior Partey's, seeing that u are wrong, u are now moving the goal post/creating another narrative about Rice's "underrated" passing.
Unless he’s gonna play as a centre back 😳
At this point, we desperately need a capable midfielder. Partey is not reliable and if god forbid, Rice gets injured.. we are in deep trouble.
Palhinha playing the john stones role would be an option
Palhinha is the right choice for pretty much any team in the world. And as for the price...you ain't getting a player that good in his position in today's scenario for less.
I swear anybody believes any player is right
this is what i’m saying about ivan toneu