Sample Test: NAD C298 power amp VS Bryston 4B SST3

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  • čas přidán 24. 03. 2021
  • We have another interesting test for you: the NAD C289 Purify Eigentakt power amp Versus our own Bryston 4B SST3. Yes: 2000 euro VS 7000 euro.
    We have the Pass Labs XP-12 pre-amp, Metrum Acoustics Pavane and Ambre duo as a source and a combination of Grimm, Audioquest and Driade cabling.
    More information and samples: alpha-audio.net and www.alpha-audio.nl.
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Komentáře • 236

  • @radomirlilic2472
    @radomirlilic2472 Před 2 lety +13

    I was more biased towards the NAD but then when I heard Bryston here against each other... Bryston all the way. Sound stage is wider, midrange better, etc. (listening on professional studio monitors). I may look now to buy Bryston and sell my hybrid integrated (tube pre-amplification combined with d-class amplification). Well done!

  • @williammiebach1798
    @williammiebach1798 Před 2 lety +11

    Thank you for one of the nicest sound demo's ever. As an owner of a an NAD power amp that has wondered what I was missing by not owning a Bryston, this beautifuly done demonstration has told me. Still love my NAD though.

    • @TheAlphaAudio
      @TheAlphaAudio  Před 2 lety +2

      You are very welcome. The NAD is amazing value.

    • @EricBurbeck
      @EricBurbeck Před 2 lety +4

      yeah, I just got a Nad C368 and am thoroughly impressed by the clarity and balance. Huge value to be had with NAD these days!

  • @ga12f12o
    @ga12f12o Před 3 lety +6

    As noted, best sound demo's on YT, your channel is the reference

  • @amuthenselvarajoo155
    @amuthenselvarajoo155 Před 2 lety +2

    Just found this, excellent demo, always wondered how the purifi amps would compare with Bryston and the likes

  • @herrtrigger7220
    @herrtrigger7220 Před měsícem +1

    Do the same on the Stella Utopia, the Bryston should demonstrate it's power advantage on more full-range speakers. Great job on the video, sounds wonderful all the way through.

  • @agx502
    @agx502 Před 2 lety +1

    Not sure i can determine anything via CZcams but i just felt so much happier each time the Bryston came in 😀

  • @00bikeboy
    @00bikeboy Před 2 lety +11

    You guys are doing a great service to the community. Thanks.

    • @TheAlphaAudio
      @TheAlphaAudio  Před 2 lety

      Thanks!

    • @hanzen5174
      @hanzen5174 Před 2 lety +1

      @@TheAlphaAudio what amp is playing should imo be up on the screen at all times

    • @TheAlphaAudio
      @TheAlphaAudio  Před 2 lety

      @@hanzen5174 check out newer video's.

  • @themiszach2375
    @themiszach2375 Před 2 lety +6

    An amazing quality demo. NAD is completely value amplifier, but, the mids and the lows in the Bryston... OH MY GOD! Of course, the speakers is hi-end too. Thank you guys for this demo, keep going.

  • @martinmbokazi8372
    @martinmbokazi8372 Před 2 lety +34

    The Bryston costs £6500 and the Nad costs £1700, therefore the price of the Bryston is almost FOUR times the price of the Nad BUT the difference in sound quality is not that too obvious and hence the Nad is a fantastic value for money

    • @TheAlphaAudio
      @TheAlphaAudio  Před 2 lety +4

      Indeed

    • @SuperTruten
      @SuperTruten Před 2 lety +5

      The evaluation should be with three-way speakers.

    • @williammorales8204
      @williammorales8204 Před rokem +1

      I totally agree but those are audiophiles will spend that difference for a subtle improvement, I'm not in that group financially lol.

    • @pierpaoloazzalin9505
      @pierpaoloazzalin9505 Před 7 měsíci +1

      if value for money is the main parameter then ok, I have a integrated from the 70’s refurbished that does a good job in being excellent value for money. Back to the comparison, from this demo is clear that the Bryston is more of a full bandwidth performer in comparison. Is it worth 3 times the price? From this demo yes. When hearing the NAD in this video the brain clearly focuses on what is missing out of the reproduction. I’d rather go for a serious upgrade and get greater scale sound than getting emphasised HF at a cheaper price.

  • @feloniousmonk5261
    @feloniousmonk5261 Před 3 lety +15

    Another demonstration of how excellent the Sopra 1s are, and how yours are the best quality HiFi recording demos on CZcams 😁

    • @TheAlphaAudio
      @TheAlphaAudio  Před 3 lety +5

      Thanks man. We have some nice surprises for the next demo's and the Live Streams.

    • @feloniousmonk5261
      @feloniousmonk5261 Před 3 lety

      Great, I'll look forward to it!

    • @topkho
      @topkho Před 3 lety

      @@TheAlphaAudio you guys rock! You are really testing what people actually care about

  • @AudioThings
    @AudioThings Před 3 lety

    Great video, thanks!

  • @john_de_jong
    @john_de_jong Před 3 lety +25

    Imo Bryston is a bit better. More bass quality, more bass quantity, more revealing vocal (because of its forwardness I guess). NAD cuts off fading sounds too early and Bryston do it right. But comparing the price I'd better buy NAD. It's a miracle amp in its league.

    • @stefanmohn5793
      @stefanmohn5793 Před 2 lety

      Vor allem nimm die NAD als Mono, dann weißt du wo der Hammer hängt! Und immer noch günstiger! Läuft bei mir an Tannoy Turnberry ….

  • @sav7568
    @sav7568 Před 2 lety +22

    The Bryston is putting out more bass but that doesn't necessarily make it better. The NAD is very clean in the mids and certainly better value.

  • @Torulv
    @Torulv Před 2 lety +1

    At 09:40 you can hear the transition to NAD C298 and white noise / static sound. Any ideas, did you notice it in person?

  • @pingdingdongpong
    @pingdingdongpong Před 2 lety +5

    I listened to the Bryston parts with a NAD and NAD parts with a Bryston, I couldn't tell any difference.

  • @theflyingdutchman7127
    @theflyingdutchman7127 Před 3 lety

    Ja leuk weer .👍👍

  • @JC.LC.
    @JC.LC. Před 2 lety +1

    Very nice recording. It would be interesting to see how a Crown XLS 1502 would compare against the NAD.

  • @williammorales8204
    @williammorales8204 Před rokem +3

    I have not heard these bookshelves but I have heard some really good ones that will put my ml 60xt towers to shame, but most of them easily costed more. Nice amps, the nad holds its own for the money, Bryston if you have champagne pockets, and nevermind Boulder etc.

  • @vicentemonsalve5884
    @vicentemonsalve5884 Před 2 lety +7

    Still the Pass+Bryston combo is a bit better but the NAD is no slouch, they’re pretty, pretty close

  • @rdh67dh
    @rdh67dh Před 3 lety +8

    I've got a C658/C298 set. I can recommend this. Awesome value for money!

    • @TheAlphaAudio
      @TheAlphaAudio  Před 3 lety +2

      Yes, it is! :-).

    • @paulhunter6652
      @paulhunter6652 Před 3 lety +1

      Considering this exact set-up.

    • @locmanw1583
      @locmanw1583 Před 3 lety

      Is the sound lean? My other choice is Simaudio 330a!

    • @rdh67dh
      @rdh67dh Před 3 lety

      @@locmanw1583 just try it.

    • @locmanw1583
      @locmanw1583 Před 3 lety

      @@rdh67dh This weekend will try Simaudio first. Than Nad. I'm worried about Nad quality on their c298!

  • @jmtennapel
    @jmtennapel Před 3 lety +7

    De 'snelheid' van de NAD is indrukwekkend (vooral goed hoorbaar in de Adele opname, zowel stem als akoestische gitaar). Het totaalplaatje van de Bryston heeft mijn voorkeur, is meer in balans en heeft een iets diepere soundstage. De NAD is duidelijk cleaner in de bovenkant van het middengebied. De Bryston wat meer adem tussen de toetsaanslagen van de piano. Maar indrukwekkend dicht bij elkaar, zeker als je kijkt naar de prijskaartjes.

  • @brankocernik8384
    @brankocernik8384 Před 2 lety +17

    The NAD is a lot more balanced and would be the amp i would listen to for long sessions .

  • @draskogagula2073
    @draskogagula2073 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Majestic taste .,
    Song is perfect ,,
    Nad surprise me a lot

  • @mrman7453
    @mrman7453 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I own a Bryston 4bsst2 . The price bump of 4b3 made me blink . I would buy the Nad in a heart beat.

  • @Shoaibexpert
    @Shoaibexpert Před 3 lety +2

    HI, Nice comparison but i noticed a constant hiss in all NAD recording samples. Is it really the case with the NAD? Its present on all 3 recordings and I cant hear it with Bryston and its not the traffic sound you mentioned earlier. I am sure the NAD has like more than 110 S/N ratio or something...are you sure the wirings and impedence matching etc are all OK? Coz if not so...the hiss will cause the NAD to sound less lifelike...as it does in these recordings, as can be seen by people preferring the Bryston.
    Looking forward to more video comparisons.

    • @TheAlphaAudio
      @TheAlphaAudio  Před 3 lety +3

      No. It's dead Silent. I Will check the source of the hiss. Thank you for pointing it out.

  • @terrystouf8906
    @terrystouf8906 Před 3 lety +6

    Well done comparison , level matched so well its hard to notice especially considering the completely different topologies of the amplifiers . I think amplification is probably the least important factor in the chain of factors that really make noticeable difference , assuming its of reasonable power and quality . Room , speakers and recording quality being the top of that list , its funny how many pump thousands into another amp chasing audio nirvana without spending a dollar on room acoustic treatments .

    • @ufarkingicehole
      @ufarkingicehole Před 2 lety +1

      I'm hearing considerable differences with the exact same variables

    • @maisonmallninja
      @maisonmallninja Před 2 lety

      I consider an amplifier choice the way I would consider a house. I have been using Brystons for a while now, and I treat them like a "reference test bench."
      The circuit topology is so straightforward, and the amplifiers are so well toleranced and forgiving to output impedance, that I feel like Bryston amps were the first thing that allowed me to truly begin "hearing speakers".

  • @RAMIRO61FERNANDES
    @RAMIRO61FERNANDES Před 4 měsíci

    Excelent side by side! Its Clear the diference.

  • @a3marketing991
    @a3marketing991 Před rokem +2

    I just purchased the NAD M23 and it's end-game amp for me. At least several years......

  • @audiotom3855
    @audiotom3855 Před rokem +2

    Yes, the Bryston is better. But it's amazing how close these Eigentakts come to one hell of a superb amplifier like the Bryston!

    • @rangerscoach
      @rangerscoach Před 10 měsíci +1

      Shocking how good the class d is!!

  • @wkapteijn
    @wkapteijn Před 3 lety +5

    Really looking forward to the written review of the NAD c298. Curious to find out you take on the sound quality vs arcam class G (pa240 is a direct competitor but i suppose the SA20/30 might give an idea how it compares) and like already mentioned how it fares against the GATO amps recently reviewed. This NAD is high on my wish list! Sound quality over the headphone is awesome

    • @paulhunter6652
      @paulhunter6652 Před 3 lety +1

      I was interested in Arcam until I read user reviews and issues.

  • @glenschneider5978
    @glenschneider5978 Před 2 lety +2

    I hear more air, transparency, and completeness in the Bryston upper end. NAD sounds great but doesn’t to me have that same sparkle. Not something I saw in anyone else’s comments. My imagination? I used to own an NAD receiver back around 1988 and loved it.

  • @paulhunter6652
    @paulhunter6652 Před 3 lety +16

    Compared the NAD C-658 pre-amp/streamer and C-298 amplifier to a Bryston set-up that cost many thousands more. Both sounded very good but went with the NAD gear! Much better value and amazing sound quality.

    • @00bikeboy
      @00bikeboy Před 2 lety +3

      I'm hard pressed to hear any difference in sound quality, but easy to see the better value proposition.

  • @jaimevc9412
    @jaimevc9412 Před rokem +1

    The difference in favor of the Bryston is clear, much cleaner, more detailed and better bass control. How would it go with a Roksan, a Pass or an accuphase?

  • @2ChannelListening
    @2ChannelListening Před rokem +3

    I'm listening with Grado GS1000 and I can tell you guys does a phenomenal job of setting your room up. The differences to me are negligible, I found I like each amp better with different tracks; NAD first track and Bryston on the second track. What I cannot tell is how much more forward the NAD positions Adele without being in your room and if I am really discerning a slight closing in of the left/right staging. Fantastic set up nevertheless.

  • @deadpeoplestuff5686
    @deadpeoplestuff5686 Před 3 lety +15

    closer than it possibly should be; the Bryston has more weight of sound (kicks harder) but the NAD is not lacking and handles everything else really well.

    • @TheAlphaAudio
      @TheAlphaAudio  Před 3 lety +1

      Indeed!

    • @locmanw1583
      @locmanw1583 Před 3 lety +2

      Nad is way cheaper you have my attention 😊

    • @locmanw1583
      @locmanw1583 Před 3 lety +2

      In the room was Nad leaner and brighter than Bryston?

    • @rainelBM8567
      @rainelBM8567 Před 2 lety +2

      Nad has all bass notes without missing any of them comparable with the professional amplifier Crown XLS 2502 class D amplifier making roundest sound musically speaking.
      Bryston is more aggressive in some notes but needs more definitions in the lowers bass notes. Any way both are high end in quality sound.
      Class D amplifier will be in shortly time the next high end sound generation.

    • @ufarkingicehole
      @ufarkingicehole Před 2 lety +2

      @@rainelBM8567 I actually heard all the detail in the Bryston when I used decent headphones. Its more weighted but still coherent. Listening in my car the Bryston sounded a little less coherent in the bottom. Leads me to believe that it's indeed clear all the way down

  • @revelationsoundstudio
    @revelationsoundstudio Před 2 lety +1

    I would like to see the PS Audio M700 against the Bryston. The NAD is a great amp for its price and it has a clean neutral sound but for bigger lows and a little more detail, the higher wattage M700's would be a better comparrison

  • @mmeerdam
    @mmeerdam Před 2 lety +4

    Thanks alpha audio for the great videos. I have re-watched this comparison a dozen times. And where I first favoured the Bryston as the more dynamic ear cathing sound, I now start to wonder if the NAD isn't just a little more effortless, say the more relaxed flavour of both. For example: I have recently compared a couple of class AB vs A and the class A feels more eased and less forward / upfront than the AB. I can imagine a slightly more forward presentation survives the mic-in-a-room-2-youtube a bit better. Could it be i might like the NAD better for longer listening sessions? I'm looking into going class D (c298) with a great tube pre vs an Accuphase e650 (or maybe the pass int) integrated. Any thoughts?

  • @sonusancti
    @sonusancti Před rokem +4

    They definitely sound almost identical. In Adele I found the NAD slightly more transparent. Same with the Little Fugue, Bryston was slightly veiled in the upper mids by comparison.
    Everything is system dependent of course, it's synergy in reaction to room acoustics.

  • @rangerscoach
    @rangerscoach Před 10 měsíci +1

    I have a bryston amp. I don’t see how anyone could have an issue with them it’s just become an integral part of my life and I called them once about something and they chucked me straight onto James tanner and I kinda nerded out haha

  • @connorduke4619
    @connorduke4619 Před 2 lety +2

    The T+A R 200 would also be an interesting test as it also uses the Purifi Eigentakt but on paper a better power supply and voltage circuit than the NAD. It also scores a very high "87" from Stereoplay magazine.

    • @TheAlphaAudio
      @TheAlphaAudio  Před 2 lety +2

      Thanks! I will look into that one!

    • @connorduke4619
      @connorduke4619 Před 2 lety +1

      @@TheAlphaAudio Looking forward to such a review if you can pull it off, I think it would be very interesting!

  • @OverkilledUnderdog
    @OverkilledUnderdog Před 2 lety +1

    Hard to tell over YT compression but IMHO I prefered the sound of the NAD. It was a tad more pleasant to listen too. The sound stage was wider and airy, more balanced. How can you go wrong with a Bryston tho !!! Given a budget I would go with the NAD any day and put my money on a nice pre amp and TT.

  • @OrganNLou
    @OrganNLou Před 2 lety +2

    The NAD is a blank canvas, only restricted by what speakers and preamplification used before it.

  • @locmanw1583
    @locmanw1583 Před 3 lety

    Is this the latest Bryston 4b3 cubed?

  • @rickrader1682
    @rickrader1682 Před 2 lety

    I think the Bryston is my pick. Tune out the vocals and just listen to those pops and clicks, not sure what those are but more detailed and part of the track. The NAD a little more subdued to me. This makes me think in general, nuances will be picked up. I like the vocals better as well. Those are forward speakers. The Bryston on other speakers perhaps with a tad of warmth perfect. NAD might be a little mellow.

  • @majsterV
    @majsterV Před rokem +3

    Obviously Bryston have better sound control overal, but frequency balance is to me way better on nad, more effortless

    • @maxchau8558
      @maxchau8558 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Totally. NAD for long long listening.

  • @IrenESorius
    @IrenESorius Před 3 lety +11

    Pfffhhhh,, extremely close, and the NAD is less than 1/3 of the cost. Very impressive.
    I would take the differing 5000Euro and spend on speakers.
    That would in my case do more good than buy the Bryston.
    Thank you soo much for this comparison and in general for your time and work. 👍‍‍⭐👍‍‍

    • @TheAlphaAudio
      @TheAlphaAudio  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks!

    • @sheerenergy8602
      @sheerenergy8602 Před 3 lety +3

      Irene Sörius
      Yes Bryston is expensive, but in comparsion with NAD about 70% of that high price can be justified.About 30% is just overpriced brand IMHO. First of all NAD was( mayby still) using very cheap components and it isnt something rare that 5- 7 years old amps needed restoration/repair. Capacitors are trash and led free soldering makes
      cold solder joints. Bryston is giving 20 years warranty.
      Second of all, sound compare, strictly the bass NAD is D class and still loose vs 4B SST3 without any doubts. That tells a lot.
      In terms of higher freqencies especially midrange Bryston was never associate with super musicality, magical midrange etc. and there for Alpha Audio is using a Pass Labs pre amp to compensate that a bit technic/raw sound. But still 4B sounds better that C298.
      Additional 5000 Euro +2000euro base is 7k Euro. Very often speakers in that price are very fussy about matching amps. I assume that this NAD can handle difficult loads cause of high power, but it's obvious it will never match full musical capabilities of speakers from that price range. But yes, speakers vary more in sound beetwen themselfs, thant amps.
      Components are design to match with simmilar price ranges. Refined speakers with cheap class-D amps is a bit waste of money IMHO. Personally i have integrated amp 2x times more expensive than speakers and still im not getting the full potential of them (speakers, wich were from highest line 2nd from 4 in terms of size) .

    • @IrenESorius
      @IrenESorius Před 3 lety +3

      ​@@sheerenergy8602 Mmm,, I agree and fully understand, but I would´nt worry to much about how long the lifespan of the NAD is.
      With the current development speed in amplification tech, even "better" and "cheapish" amps are one the way.
      We truly live in the best of HiFi-times.
      Cheers,, 🍻😎👍‍‍

    • @sheerenergy8602
      @sheerenergy8602 Před 3 lety +2

      @@IrenESorius "With the current development speed in amplification tech, even "better" and "cheapish" amps are one the way.
      We truly live in the best of HiFi-times."
      Can't agree with that sorry. My Accuphase is from 1997( Dec. 96) and counting inflation is 10.000$ today in USA even more. This amp will last longer than that C298 manufactured today with 23 years falstart.
      And about quality sound, golden era of hi-fi was in 70' and 80' and never gonna back.
      Ofcourse, nowadays we can build a little bit better amps, but it never is chaper, always a lot more expensive.
      Finest Alnico drivers from Tannoy also arent manufactured anymore.
      But overall speakers and sources gain a lot of technology. Amps are pretty much still the same. Or maybe you counting blutooth modules, but i can ad aditional module to an old amps as well.
      In XX century manufacturers build to last, and now we have era of "planned obsolescence".
      Even good new capacitors now cant match to an old ones. Even tubes arrent the same, and audiophiles fight for New Old Stock tubes, and Russian tubes are valued.
      And when I buy an amp for 10k $ I want it will last for decades. Even if i will replace my main amp, I want to sold ma old one, not to throw it to trash.
      And cheap amps for 400-600$ are not even worth to comment - garbage.
      Cheers!

    • @sheerenergy8602
      @sheerenergy8602 Před 3 lety +2

      @@IrenESorius As an example lets take amp, Yamaha A-S 3200 a fully analog amp still manufactured very simmilar to its predecessor. And peoples talking that old model from golden era sounds better.
      IMHO the A-S3200 has really bad sound signature, sounding very forward and thin with his pushy upper midrange but in the same time not so heavy in a bass. A such beutyful amp and such nightmare sound sugnature. You need match it with recesed midrange speakers. But recesed midrange speakers in hi-end?? Do you know any???
      Cheers :)

  • @bernardogolub2206
    @bernardogolub2206 Před 3 lety

    Greetings.
    Do you intend to publish a written review of the NAD C 298 amplifier?
    BR

  • @johnmarchington3146
    @johnmarchington3146 Před 2 lety +2

    I had hopes of buying a C298 to replace my ageing home-built class-A amplifiers for driving my giant electrostatic speakers. However, I was concerned about the very low impedance load that would be presented to the amplifier at high frequencies by the speakers so I wrote to NAD for advice.I was informed that the amplifier would definitely go into current limiting on a regular basis, resulting in muting of the audio. I then wondered if bridging the amplifier to provide more peak current might ease restrictions but was informed that the situation would actually be worse as the minimum acceptable impedance is increased.. Sadly, that is the end of the matter, much to my disappointment.

    • @AT-wl9yq
      @AT-wl9yq Před rokem

      "However, I was concerned about the very low impedance load that would be presented to the amplifier at high frequencies"
      You have it backwards. Resistance decreases as you go down in frequency, not up. Also, don't bridge. Bridging a stereo isn't the same a mono amp. When bridged, the amp sees half the resistance it used to. For example, if your stereo amp is running under 4 ohm load, when you bridge the amp, that same 4 ohm load is now 2 ohms.

    • @johnmarchington3146
      @johnmarchington3146 Před rokem +1

      @@AT-wl9yq Perhaps I didn't make the situation sufficiently clear. The Acoustat SPECTRA 6600 electrostatic speakers have an impedance versus frequency curve that almost looks like an inverted parabola: 3 ohms at 20 Hz, rising to a maximum of 26 ohms at 500 Hz, thereafter falling slightly to 22 ohms at 1kHz, then to 13 ohms at 2 kHz, approx. 8.5 ohms at 4kHz, and an almost straight line descent (with a few small kinks) after that through a value of 4 ohms at 10 kHz to eventually reach 1ohm at 20 kHz. As I mentioned, I wrote to NAD about it and the person who answered my email query agreed with me that the C298 amplifier would NOT be suitable for driving such a load. I have subsequently bought the amplifier but am using it with another system and am very impressed with its sound quality.

  • @radiomuzika2501
    @radiomuzika2501 Před rokem

    Good review, very well done, thank you! I am about to buy this power amp, but exploring people experiences with the same unit, I found out: The power supply makes a fair amount of mechanical noise. Looking around the Internet other people have reported this issue, some of them have been told that this is normal for this type of power supply. What do you think about this? Some people have no such a problem. I could not use amp with that noise/buzzing. Please replay....Regards!

    • @TheAlphaAudio
      @TheAlphaAudio  Před rokem +1

      Never heard any buzzing. I guess it depends on your situation. If there is any DC in the grid, you will get hum / buzz...

    • @radiomuzika2501
      @radiomuzika2501 Před rokem

      @@TheAlphaAudio thank you! what is your final recommendation? is there anything better in this price category?

  • @pierrec8174
    @pierrec8174 Před 5 měsíci

    Hello 👋 please what is your record XY setup ?

  • @michaela.5363
    @michaela.5363 Před 2 lety

    Just curious, did Focal raise their prices in Europe over the last few years?

  • @AlOne-xg6dv
    @AlOne-xg6dv Před 2 lety +1

    Vocals are much better, less agressive with the Brystol, and globally the sound is deeper and softer at the same time. But the NAD is a nice value for money.

  • @joshdekubber3631
    @joshdekubber3631 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Great video! I know the compressed video on CZcams doesn't tell the whole story but the fact that the Bryson is noticeably better in every way even on CZcams compression tells me I made the right decision with my 4b3. I already knew that though it's the best amp I have heard at any price range. Still it was nice to get the confirmation from this video performance. Thank you for sharing.

  • @vagomaniac
    @vagomaniac Před rokem +1

    Thought close the Bryston’s sound is fuller and more relaxed, sure a big price difference but it is better. Also it is harmonically richer with better decay.

  • @dominiksikulec3454
    @dominiksikulec3454 Před 9 dny

    Hello Alpha, what would be better match for pro ac sm100 speakers, nad c298 or soundimport eigentakt eval 1? And why? Thanks in advance

    • @TheAlphaAudio
      @TheAlphaAudio  Před 9 dny

      @@dominiksikulec3454 I don't know. I haven't tested that speaker.

    • @dominiksikulec3454
      @dominiksikulec3454 Před 9 dny

      ⁠@@TheAlphaAudiohow about amps? Nad vs eigentakt

    • @TheAlphaAudio
      @TheAlphaAudio  Před 9 dny

      @@dominiksikulec3454 we have tests on our website.

  • @garth56
    @garth56 Před 2 lety +1

    The Bryston has more of everything. I can still hear class D it's like a cheap shop Rioja than one bought from Spain itself.. My amps are Kondo so in a different league to these. This was interesting though :-)

  • @topkho
    @topkho Před 2 lety +1

    Amazing video as usual! 1) How do you compare the NAD C298 to the Metrum Forte, in a use case where you plug an Adagio or a Morpheus straight to the amplifier? 2) Do you plan to test the Sonnet Kratos amplifier? Hermès + Morpheus + Kratos would be a fun, all Sonnet test!

    • @TheAlphaAudio
      @TheAlphaAudio  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks! We had that question before in the mail. They are both neutrally tuned. But they differ a lot in power output and matching. So... Different beats. I think the Forte is a bit more fluid.
      We will definately test the sonnet trio

  • @Warwick709
    @Warwick709 Před 3 lety

    NAD sounds great can it run my Focal Electra 1038BE at the moment im using Naim XS Integrated

    • @TheAlphaAudio
      @TheAlphaAudio  Před 3 lety +1

      This amp can run virtually anything I think

  • @rlink204
    @rlink204 Před 3 lety +3

    The NAD on Adele’s song has a higher noise floor at the start than the Bryston? The Bryston is better if you can afford it.

    • @TheAlphaAudio
      @TheAlphaAudio  Před 3 lety +1

      Yes. Wow....you have good ears. There was some traffic at the start.

    • @rlink204
      @rlink204 Před 3 lety +1

      @@TheAlphaAudio I wasn’t sure if I was hearing things or if it was because of CZcams compression of audio. Thanks for confirming.

    • @bernardogolub2206
      @bernardogolub2206 Před 3 lety

      @@TheAlphaAudio An ambulance siren I think.

    • @TheAlphaAudio
      @TheAlphaAudio  Před 3 lety

      @@bernardogolub2206 Could be the case yes. I tried editing around the noise. But I couldnt mask it all ;-).

    • @bernardogolub2206
      @bernardogolub2206 Před 3 lety

      @@TheAlphaAudio All praise for the effort and the unique and objective approach.
      Best regards

  • @robinmurray9801
    @robinmurray9801 Před 2 lety +2

    Interesting that so many are making a opinion based on a CZcams video possibly on a smart phone. Can you really tell these differences here? I doubt it..Go audition these two amps and I am sure there is a clear winner. If you audition with a "cost doesnt matter, I want the best sound" approach then I am sure Bryston will be on top. If you audition with "price matters and I want best bang for my buck" then NAD wins..I am making my judgement using both brands through my Focals. I love that both are Canadian brands and the 20 year Bryston warranty is spectacular..

  • @bryansu
    @bryansu Před 3 lety +5

    Bryston sound better. observed the bass hit. it hit a bit clearer, each hit is tight and distinguish. And the multiple continous fast small bass hit in between also is clearer and more distinguish. I can hear it better separated. For NAD, everything just song one flat and muddy bass... definately is bryston...no wonder they are famous of speed and tight bass. Overal mre pronounce to me...
    the bass is more dynamic in bryston..

  • @centurio7019
    @centurio7019 Před 7 měsíci +1

    NAD sounds more 'live' and clear to me. The Bryston makes it sounding like a blanket is put over the system (like when you play cd's), therefore it seems to have more bass, but the bass and mid of the NAD is clearer and better defined. The NAD is faster so the music sounds more musical to me, tIming seems better and the clarity makes it more analystic, you hear the instruments better as a real bass, real tom with the reverb, etrc. It sounds very good, but of course this whole set with the streamer, dac and cables can't beat my digital T+A R1000E which sounds like an amp from Audio Research... Streaming is best with class D, should take cables like Supra that are not to thick and the music should flow like water, that's when streaming is done the best. Also the dac needs to sound analogueish and the streamer should be extremely fast and have a great clocking. Then you need a fast internet connection like wifi or cabled internet and run the music straight away from your Qobuz Sublime subscription. But nice demo, guys!

  • @quitegenius
    @quitegenius Před 4 měsíci

    Bryston just has more space between the layers. The bass is so well defined. And the vocals are a separate layer. The NAD sounds a bit muddled in the bass by comparison and the vocals are smearing with the rest of the music (smearing for lack of a better word). The presentation is narrower in NAD. By no means are either of them bad. And given the price, NAD is pretty good. But Bryson just takes it for me here.

  • @Speccy48k
    @Speccy48k Před 2 lety

    How about a single Bryston 4B SST3 vs 2x NAD C289 (still cheaper overall)?

    • @TheAlphaAudio
      @TheAlphaAudio  Před 2 lety +1

      About the same. The difference is mainly control in the bass. And a bit of imaging

  • @grommie
    @grommie Před rokem +2

    I dont hear much difference. To me the NAD sounds more clearer. I cant tell any about depth. I wonder what amp i want in the future.

  • @deangale4496
    @deangale4496 Před rokem +1

    Bryston is more detailed , bass is more controlled and apparent yet delicate the NAD is adequate for the money

  • @locmanw1583
    @locmanw1583 Před 3 lety

    Has anyone compared Nad c298 to Adcom 565se?

  • @hot99pas
    @hot99pas Před 2 lety +1

    Close for me, but I prefer the Bryston for cleaner sound.

  • @alex-wk7mq
    @alex-wk7mq Před 3 lety

    thx

  • @fuvat
    @fuvat Před 3 lety +2

    Main difference ise Bryston has weighty bass line, NAD has better imaging and cleaner sound but still smooth.

    • @TheAlphaAudio
      @TheAlphaAudio  Před 3 lety

      Indeed.

    • @DougMen1
      @DougMen1 Před 2 lety +1

      The Bryston may have more bass, but it sounds sloppier and less defined and punchy than the NAD, IMO

  • @trubadyr99
    @trubadyr99 Před 2 lety

    I wondered how NAD would sound with a tube pre-? I think that an excellent preamplifier could make it sing great.

  • @lbudt29
    @lbudt29 Před rokem +1

    The NAD is good, but thin. The Bryston is fuller hitting the 40hz range much better, more open image.

  • @invisibles362
    @invisibles362 Před 3 lety

    My personal opinion, I have owned Bryston amp for many, many years and processors. I presently have a Nad PrePro, really good clarity and detailed, but much more digital sounding. I prefere Bryston sound, if I had more $$$ . For me, Bryston all the way.

  • @MrKrekkie
    @MrKrekkie Před 3 lety

    Dit ga ik morgen met frisse oren eens beluisteren op telefoon usb out-dac- NAD c368 met de hypex ucd102 unit-tannoy xt8f. Ik weet nog niet hoe ik verschil in waarneming dan moet interpreteren....

    • @MrKrekkie
      @MrKrekkie Před 3 lety

      Adele haar stem over de NAD geeft over mijn set wat meer info over de opnameruimte. Aldus de interpretatie van mijn brein.

  • @ryanfitzpatrick3256
    @ryanfitzpatrick3256 Před 7 měsíci

    Nad is slightly fuller in midbass and prat with a higher noise floor. Bryston is more refined but unmoving and thin.

    • @maxchau8558
      @maxchau8558 Před 6 měsíci

      A little slower than NAD perhaps.

  • @randallbrown8495
    @randallbrown8495 Před 3 lety +15

    The NAD wins this shootout hands down. At first blush, the Bryston sounds warmer and deeper, but that's mainly coloration. It has a slightly murky sound compared to the NAD which is cleaner and clearer. Listen to all the tracks and it becomes obvious that the NAD is superior.

  • @anjovandijk9797
    @anjovandijk9797 Před 3 lety

    if indication and sound would be switched NAD would get more credits and for some hard to admit it's a winner and that for 1/3 of the price
    Als indicatie en geluid zouden worden omgeswitcht, zou NAD meer credits krijgen en dat is moeilijk toe te geven, gezien het enorme prijsverschil is het de winnaar

  • @eaustin2006
    @eaustin2006 Před rokem

    For me the NAD wins in a walk. But I like a completely natural sound if I can get it, not a colored one. If I liked a lot of bass the Bryson would be fine.

  • @ufarkingicehole
    @ufarkingicehole Před 2 lety +2

    Bryston... lower noise floor (by a lot), a more natural openess without being muffled, more holographic, and more weighted.
    If the NaD had a lower noise floor, it would be a little closer. Seems like another type of opamp may help make up some of the difference as well.

  • @fdude555
    @fdude555 Před 2 lety

    Are the amps even level adjusted??

  • @ArsenicShooter
    @ArsenicShooter Před 3 lety

    So much bass in so small speakers? Sounds amazing!

  • @mercuryinoverdrive
    @mercuryinoverdrive Před 3 lety +3

    The Bryston is better. It is clearer, more defined and refined with better musical separation. It's also a bit more forward in presentation than the NAD.

  • @calaf_725
    @calaf_725 Před 3 lety +4

    I think Adele's voice has a little more body with Bryston and the bass is a little deeper. Overall i prefer the Bryston but law of diminishing returns bites hard.

    • @TheAlphaAudio
      @TheAlphaAudio  Před 3 lety +5

      The NAD is Incredible.

    • @johnlg2209
      @johnlg2209 Před 3 lety

      @@TheAlphaAudio Since the NAD is class D is it cold-sounding or harsh. How is Purifi Eigentakt compared to other class-D amplifiers?

    • @TheAlphaAudio
      @TheAlphaAudio  Před 3 lety +2

      @@johnlg2209 the C298 is a Purify Eigentakt amp... So...

    • @johnlg2209
      @johnlg2209 Před 3 lety

      @@TheAlphaAudio I know it is. How does the NAD/eigentakt compare to Gatos class D amplifier that you have reviewed or other class D amplifiers?

    • @TheAlphaAudio
      @TheAlphaAudio  Před 3 lety +1

      @@johnlg2209 We have reviewed loads of amps, including Class D. You can check our Sample database for lossless samples. Just register on alpha-audio.net and register. After loggin in, you can browse the sample database.

  • @benjaminlasserre2781
    @benjaminlasserre2781 Před 2 lety +1

    Hard to tell with a recoding, The Bryston is more natural In my opinion. Bryston Win.

  • @DougMen1
    @DougMen1 Před 2 lety +1

    The NAD sounds more real to me, while the Bryston sounds more artificial, like a recording

  • @rdh67dh
    @rdh67dh Před 3 lety

    Ik wil de NAD C658/C298 weleens tegen de M33 zien en horen.
    Zal NAD waarschijnlijk niet goed vinden😉

    • @TheAlphaAudio
      @TheAlphaAudio  Před 3 lety +1

      Jawel hoor! Maar we hebben toch onze sample database? Daar kan je - na inloggen op Alpha Audio - alle samples gewoon downloaden en vergelijken.

  • @shiwenbennychen9082
    @shiwenbennychen9082 Před 3 lety +1

    I likes Bryston more...longer decays, NAD cut off too clean(does not sound natural)...NAD has better control

  • @bigd74bigd70
    @bigd74bigd70 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Bryson kills it

  • @MrBoomtheroom
    @MrBoomtheroom Před 8 měsíci +2

    Nad more transparent and true to the recording Bryston colors' the music a little

  • @Halkerik
    @Halkerik Před rokem

    Первый трек классный,а есть ещё что нить на подобе!?

  • @84PILOU84
    @84PILOU84 Před 2 lety +2

    I can't manage to hear any difference between these two amps... In fact, it's true a very small difference , but the Bryston costs 4500 euros more than the nad !!!!

  • @pierrec8174
    @pierrec8174 Před 4 měsíci

    Try Jarousky singer ! 👍 singing Nisi Dominus

  • @streamcnoremorse3323
    @streamcnoremorse3323 Před 3 lety +1

    Why don`t you give 1 track for each amp? and you put Brystol on climax of the song!

  • @geraldhilderink5686
    @geraldhilderink5686 Před rokem +2

    I am not a fan of these speakers. I don’t like the sound. I can imagine that the NAD will sound differently on tower speakers. So, this demo is not useful for me to decide which amp is better.

  • @michbest
    @michbest Před rokem +1

    I cant hear a god damn difference on my hi-end apple headphones LOL :)

  • @stevewarner8686
    @stevewarner8686 Před 3 lety +1

    The Bryston is more beautiful to look at...

  • @user-qt4gd1mn4s
    @user-qt4gd1mn4s Před 11 měsíci

    There is no discernible difference between these amps as heard through this recording process. Speakers make the most discernible difference. If you listened to these recording through my Apogee speakers with your eyes closed, you would truly believe the musicians were in the room with you with either amp or in fact many different amps.

  • @honoratros4392
    @honoratros4392 Před 2 lety +1

    Yo los oigo igual

  • @soabundantly739
    @soabundantly739 Před rokem

    pass int 25 sounds more powerful/dynamic than both these two on the focals.

  • @bubamaric9564
    @bubamaric9564 Před rokem +1

    NAD is more musical, Bryston is more powerful,less warm than Nad