Commander X16 is HERE! The Modern Retro PC's Design Secrets Revealed

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    1:25 Why I joined the team
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    6:33 Keyboard Unboxing
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    10:23 Manual & Artwork/Merch Reveal
    12:45 Final Motherboard Unboxing & Tour
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Komentáře • 301

  • @RetroRecipes
    @RetroRecipes  Před 19 dny +34

    Thanks for watching! You could win the X16 or KITTesla at raffall.com/retrorecipes ... or even both! Just don't get them mixed up. 🖥💨 🚓

    • @carledwards9477
      @carledwards9477 Před 18 dny +4

      I always wanted a C64, but it was beyond our means back in the day.
      I entered the raffle - if there is a chance that I could relive my youth AND get to enjoy a project this amazing, it's well worth it.
      Thank you Perifractic - you are one of the top YT creators. Definitely one of the most human!

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 18 dny +4

      @@carledwards9477 Thank you for your kind words! ...apart from when I'm AI ;)

    • @user-vq1js6lm4f
      @user-vq1js6lm4f Před 18 dny

      can you enter in canada?

    • @kellerkind6169
      @kellerkind6169 Před 18 dny +3

      I REALLY like that earlier case design as shown at 3:41.....soooo sexy!

    • @LordOrwell
      @LordOrwell Před 17 dny +1

      so if it's 8 bit, why isn't it the commander x8?

  • @hnmcclain
    @hnmcclain Před 17 dny +20

    Bro, I'm and EE and CS schooled engineer and have worked in what can only be called "I.T." for 30+ years. I'll be 50 soon and you name it, I've done it. But you really got my attention when you mentioned your late mom. I too lost my mom, back in 2020, and I swear, I had to put all my projects on hold. Good to see you stayed strong, did what needed to be done and got back at it. She'd be proud. Can't wait to dig into this system of yours.

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 17 dny +5

      Thank you for your kind words and I'm sorry for your loss 🙏

  • @DiestroCorleone
    @DiestroCorleone Před 17 dny +28

    So proud of the team for the results. I can remember David commenting years ago, in several videos, about 'if I designed my own retro computer'.
    And now it's here :)

    • @jstro-hobbytech
      @jstro-hobbytech Před 5 dny

      And obscenely expensive. I lived through those old days and hated the hours spent waiting that ill never get back. I gave away a new in box c64 last year because I had no interest in it other than recapping it first. I like my 4090 haha

  • @chmarr
    @chmarr Před 18 dny +12

    i am so sorry for the loss of your mum, i hope your ok

  • @davidmoore5925
    @davidmoore5925 Před 18 dny +42

    Thanks for spoiling the end of the very hungry caterpillar, I'm only half way through.

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 18 dny +13

      I apologise very munch

    • @MarcWeertsMusic
      @MarcWeertsMusic Před 18 dny +9

      It’s not that great. There’s a big hole in the plot…

    • @Robbnlinzi
      @Robbnlinzi Před 18 dny +3

      @@MarcWeertsMusicoh get out of here!!! lol

    • @paszTube
      @paszTube Před 16 dny +5

      I bet all you guys are dads

    • @John.B.Jenkins
      @John.B.Jenkins Před 15 dny +1

      @@MarcWeertsMusic LOLZ! YES! Best Dad joke I've heard today. Definitely gonna file that in the ole Brain Rolodex

  • @RealActorRob
    @RealActorRob Před 18 dny +15

    I helped populate chips and test several of the boards at David’s house about a month ago. So I literally had a hand in a few. Lol.

    • @juniorxranger
      @juniorxranger Před 13 dny +1

      I grew up in K********e. You have no idea how proud this makes me.

  • @jparky1972
    @jparky1972 Před 18 dny +26

    I have to agree with some of the other comments about the case.
    The Perifractic case looks so much better than the one shipped.
    It looks like a 'Good Enough' solution instead of doing it 'right'. Especially when you showed the faults of the rear of thr case as well as the power / reset buttons being so close to eachother.
    I appreciate they are trying to keep the costs down. Especially as the costs have spiraled away from Davids initial cost goal.

  • @buidelrat132
    @buidelrat132 Před 13 dny +7

    The "9-pin guy's dream computer" 😂

  • @SproutyPottedPlant
    @SproutyPottedPlant Před 15 dny +8

    The FM chip and PSG combo is the best part of the design for me ❤ very Mega Drive like sound and with the extra channels there is plenty of space for big chords and epic percussion 👍

  • @esvinyard
    @esvinyard Před 17 dny +15

    Thanks for sharing your artwork for the X16 manual. It's great! I've been enjoying my Commander X16 for a couple months now, and really appreciate all the work y'all put into it.

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 17 dny +1

      Thank you!! Glad the collective effort is appreciated!

  • @RetroResurrectionAI
    @RetroResurrectionAI Před 11 dny +3

    I got my X16 two months ago and it's still sitting in the back. Thanks to this video I will break it out this weekend and finally get to try it out.

  • @radman999
    @radman999 Před 16 dny +5

    I am always floored by the production value of your videos. Some of the best on CZcams.

  • @LambdaHalbe
    @LambdaHalbe Před 17 dny +5

    My X16 is just mounted with some standoff screws on a nicely looking wooden board. Sticked some rubber feet underneath and made a strain reflief for the power cord.

  • @RyanMercer
    @RyanMercer Před 18 dny +32

    Woo comments are back!

    • @GAMECLOSET
      @GAMECLOSET Před 17 dny +2

      Yes. I’m happy for that too.

    • @tehLilaQ
      @tehLilaQ Před 17 dny +1

      Why were they gone anyway?

    • @RyanMercer
      @RyanMercer Před 17 dny +1

      @@tehLilaQ trolls apparently

  • @sellophanesun
    @sellophanesun Před 16 dny +4

    Nicely done man, a perfect example of how to highlight your achievements without diminishing those of others. Thanks!

  • @ShR33k
    @ShR33k Před 16 dny +5

    That concept X16 manual art is stunning! If that doesn't see light of day, then something is wrong! That machine is a thing of beauty. I'm currently trying to learn 6502 assembly programming... hopefully from there, I'll learn Z80 (as I had an Amstrad CPC 464 & later a 6128 as a kid). David and the team have done a fantastic job bringing this machine to life! Well done everyone!!! 👏

  • @RoyEltham
    @RoyEltham Před 18 dny +8

    I love my Commander X16! I got the Black Lazer3D case. It really is a beautiful board.

  • @coffeecuparcade
    @coffeecuparcade Před 18 dny +13

    I've been watching this project since the start and I gotta say I love your case much more than the official one. Yours had style and accommodated everything in the original design. The official one seems to lack planning and feels like a "good enough for now" approach. Bummer. Might be a cool project once the pricing and design reaches maturity. Love your X logo and artworks! As always great video and thank you for sharing with all of us.

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 18 dny +5

      Thank you for your kind words sir

    • @RyanMartinez
      @RyanMartinez Před 18 dny +1

      I've been following this lightly (not exactly paying attention, but watching random videos of it when I catch them), but conceivably you can still make your own based on the needs of the board, yes? Kind of like other projects that have come up recently?

  • @lupedarksnout
    @lupedarksnout Před 17 dny +5

    I would so buy Puppyfractic's spiral-bound MAPPING the X16. Show me how to get the most out of this new machine! Locations I can affect, the new BASIC commands, the built-in programs, dealing with VERA, getting sounds to play, the new opcodes, reading mouse and controllers, raster and timer interrupts! Woof!

  • @drtaverner
    @drtaverner Před 3 dny

    I can't believe this made me cry. Actually cry. This is an amazing achievement guys. I'm just in awe.

  • @TheducksOrg
    @TheducksOrg Před 17 dny +3

    Congratulations on babyfractic! I know this is old news and the chances of you seeing it are also low - I've been watching your videos for several years, but have had to cut down on the youtube since my wife and I had our daughter back in 2022 - I'm only just getting back to it now and I'm super happy for you all :)

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 16 dny +1

      Thank you for your kind words! Means a lot 👍🕹

  • @fyreantz2555
    @fyreantz2555 Před 18 dny +2

    Imagine how far we've come since the Vic-20. We can design and mail order circuit boards. Print our own cases. Write our own operating systems. We are in the golden age of personal technology.

  • @GeorgesChannel
    @GeorgesChannel Před 17 dny +3

    Wonderful review Perifractic! Really love your artwork on this machine and now i understand the Logo and the name (X16). This project is a really gift to the whole retrocommunity.

  • @Wythaneye
    @Wythaneye Před 14 dny +3

    I'm looking forward to the spiral bound manual(s). Thanks for the update, I'm glad they're still in the works.

  • @thomasfx3190
    @thomasfx3190 Před 13 dny +1

    I was 12 when my brother and I got our C64. We had two 1541 disk drives and typed in hundreds of lines of basic out of commodore magazines, it was really fun and our IBM 370 programming Dad was very proud.

  • @kitt28
    @kitt28 Před 15 dny +2

    I think it was 1992 when I was a kid and got my first desktop, oh what we all accomplished years later, Thanks for sharing this

  • @MarcKloos
    @MarcKloos Před 18 dny +5

    When you thought that the school yard fights between Speccies and Commies were behind us for the past 40 years, it's starting all over again with the ZX Spectrum Next and the Commander X16 🤣

    • @TheJeremyHolloway
      @TheJeremyHolloway Před 18 dny

      You’re leaving the Atari 8-Bits out of that brawl when we have the official Atari 400 Mini for sale, not to mention homebrew hardware like the Mini ITX “NUC” motherboards and 3D printed cases, 65816 CPU upgrades, the PokeyMAX sound chip upgrades, the SOFIA and other RGB video upgrade boards, and now the external repro 1090 Expansion PCB with hopefully the chassis on the way soon. Even SpartaDOS is still being actively developed.

    • @oldhedders
      @oldhedders Před 17 dny +5

      I read this comment, thought "nonsense, we're all adults now", and then realised that I'm a Spectrum Next owner who is actually annoyed by how much better the X16's sound is.

    • @another3997
      @another3997 Před 15 dny

      ​@@TheJeremyHollowayTo be fair, the Atari 400 mini is "just" an ARM based emulator in a particularly nice case, replicating original hardware... so not quite the same as the Next or the X16. Neither of which really appeal to me, even though the Next isa stunning looking machine. But as an Atari 8 bit fan, POKEY will always be the best, especially considering they were released a whole 3 years before the "Commode C64". 😉

  • @apollolux
    @apollolux Před 8 dny

    A C64-like with a retro Yamaha FM audio chip. What a time to be alive. :)

  • @hanleyforhire
    @hanleyforhire Před 16 dny +4

    Really wonderful work. Hoping to acquire one of these someday, and I already grabbed some raffle tickets.
    The bridge being created by this project really hits home. I remember playing games like Double Dare and The Railroad Works on my grandfather’s C64, and at that age it felt like it was powered by magic. He would load up his saved railroad, and I would be amazed at the whole process.
    I know you must hear this all the time, but thanks to you and your family for making these videos. They are truly meaningful, and your viewers will always remember how you made them feel.

  • @PassifloraCerulea
    @PassifloraCerulea Před 2 dny

    First off: artists are amazing! Second: as an occasional dabbler in electronics, it's sad to see thru-hole components getting rarer because modern surface-mount stuff seems so much harder to work with. This looks like it was a bunch of work, so good job guys.

  • @merman1974
    @merman1974 Před 17 dny +3

    The case looks great, nice to see the vision become a reality.

  • @guystevens162
    @guystevens162 Před 18 dny +2

    wow thats some great work guys. Love the sound so 80"s with a modern touch.

  • @chrissawyer1484
    @chrissawyer1484 Před 18 dny +2

    It's here! Can't wait!

  • @CallousCoder
    @CallousCoder Před 10 dny

    But with the exception of the missing slots in the case, it’s absolutely stunning 🤩Incredible work by all involved 😊

  • @ReedsRedactions
    @ReedsRedactions Před 18 dny +3

    I was a bit skeptical of this product at first, but I'm actually really happy to see this thing released. You can tell that a lot of thought was put into it because the design is top notch! To be honest, I would prefer a strictly FPGA based system (for the sake of a future proofing), but you can never have enough of these products on the market. What I would really love to see is a brand new system that has the capability of replicating the HD2D pixel art style of modern day, but done so using 16-32 bit hardware.

  • @RetroBerner
    @RetroBerner Před 18 dny +4

    Dope, I can't believe y'all overlooked the expansion card case compatibility 😂

    • @GAMECLOSET
      @GAMECLOSET Před 17 dny +1

      That was a “D’oh!” moment. I couldn’t believe that.

  • @eskey691
    @eskey691 Před 18 dny +2

    This looks out of this world and i love how everything has a name on the board, as for the keyboard i like it and the soft feel for the keys wouldn't bother me one bit if anything it would give me a more retro feel to it. As for the artwork HELL YEAH how cool is that pure 80s to 90s vibe an yes am thinking of getting a mug with it on. The sound it pumps out is pure class as well so all in all one cool bit of kit that said i'd add maybe a few more LED to it but how you had it setup was great. As always a super great video and am looking forward to seeing the next one so until then you all take care and have a great weekeend.

  • @ScavengerFX
    @ScavengerFX Před 6 dny

    I loved this video! Such good work! I entered the Raffle! Good luck everyone!

  • @ericwallace4985
    @ericwallace4985 Před 18 dny +4

    I've been watching for years. Not a single disappointment .

  • @more.power.
    @more.power. Před 17 dny +3

    Outstanding work Perifractic the team has built a gem of an 8 bit system. Cheers

  • @SelfIndulgentGamer
    @SelfIndulgentGamer Před 15 dny

    Feels like it's been ages for this to come into existence :)

  • @michaelcarey
    @michaelcarey Před 17 dny +3

    Amazing! This is certainly on a want list for me! I think I'd re-do the switch wires... no need for them to be soooo long 🙂

  • @Capt.Marco-Hawk-L.L.A.P
    @Capt.Marco-Hawk-L.L.A.P Před 17 dny +5

    Christian another awesome episode. your case design was far better, love the scifi pic you did for it, very awesome design

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 17 dny +2

      Thank you for your kind words! Means a lot 👍🕹

  • @sarreqteryx
    @sarreqteryx Před 17 dny +5

    15:50 hope you've put that last ¼MB RAM in correctly before turning the system on.
    27:35 …well, at least it didn't short out

  • @SoulPoetryandOtherWorks
    @SoulPoetryandOtherWorks Před 18 dny +3

    What a great sound experience from this machine. A very impressive project which has been brought to life by you all. Just add a mechanical keyboard and that would be a seriously amazing 8-bit esque computing experience.
    So the Commander X16 has been conceptualized as an X-Wing destroyer craft in your illustration. That should make Darth Sidious weep in terror.
    Nice video Perifractic and a fantastic machine that you have all brought into being using retro midichlorians no doubt. Just remember to set the parity bit.

  • @Eminem200183
    @Eminem200183 Před 17 dny +2

    Oh wow! This is wonderful. The old Commodore was amazing back in the day and seeing the CommanderX16 is perfect. Btw gotta love PCBWay. Lol

  • @FrazerSmithsChannel
    @FrazerSmithsChannel Před 18 dny +9

    Perfect use of Vic and Bob. Chapeaux

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 18 dny +7

      I have an incredible Vic Reeves first hand story. Might have to share it on the channel some day... though it's a little risqué, and long.

    • @FrazerSmithsChannel
      @FrazerSmithsChannel Před 18 dny +3

      @@RetroRecipes Oh please do. As a huge Jim and Bob fan I would love to hear it.

  • @EmperorKonstantine01
    @EmperorKonstantine01 Před 14 dny +1

    I love the sentiment and humour in your videos, and how you mix the old with the new.
    Mr.Perifractict are you able to do a video on the history of the facsimile machine maybe some time in the future, this was a fascinating invention and technology way back before the internet and sending email began. I was really hooked on this technology and it was also a new dimension that opened up so many windows of opportunity for us back in the 80’s. It was a cool part of our history. Even sending resumes to employers and friends. Sharing information and even sending pictures in black and white was quite amazing. Only you could feel and share how awesome this old technology was for us.😊

  • @jamesdecross1035
    @jamesdecross1035 Před 18 dny +5

    The clear case lid is a little reminiscent of the 9-pin guy's brother's case for his Apple-1 replica.

    • @TheGeekPub
      @TheGeekPub Před 17 dny +1

      You mean me? Thanks for the nice comment!

  • @NocturnalMissSo
    @NocturnalMissSo Před 18 dny +4

    Thats really cool, man. Nice job.

  • @TamiSymonds
    @TamiSymonds Před 18 dny +5

    @RetroRecipes I've loved this journey. Thank you
    What's your favourite Partridge series..
    *Knowing me knowing you
    *I'm Alan Partridge 1 or 2
    *Mid morning / the day today?
    Nice to see the X16 comes in a box. A bit like Tony Hayres x

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 18 dny +2

      I'm Alan Partridge 1 & 2 equally. Ahaaa! Do you have a battery for an Ericsson?

  • @youtubasoarus
    @youtubasoarus Před 14 dny

    Congrats! It looks awesome!

  • @jeffreyplum5259
    @jeffreyplum5259 Před 14 dny +1

    The banking design is similar to the way the PDP-11 took a 64 K byte minicomputer to eventually 4 Megabytes of memory. Of course things must be much simpler starting from a 6502 base, but some amazing stuff was done on the '11, dating back to the 8 bit era. There was even a time-sharing system, without memory protection, which ran a version of basic. Amazing stuff can be done from such a very simple tech base. Good luck friends.

  • @W3DRK
    @W3DRK Před 13 dny +2

    Very cool. I went the Foenix F256K route, and should hopefully be receiving mine next sometime next month. I preferred the all-in-one slab design, MMU banking scheme, stereo SIDs, and Tiny Vicky graphics solution...

  • @giovannip.1433
    @giovannip.1433 Před 11 dny

    Looks great. The custom keyboard is an interesting concept - could you manufacture LCD keys for custom key positions?
    You could use specific LCDs to change to show emulation modes.
    Then you could get say a micro PC using a reasonable AMD Apu and emulate a c64, Amiga, Spectrum etc- all at the press of a button.

  • @TheSulross
    @TheSulross Před 18 dny +4

    the low profile case is nice looking, but darn, makes most of the slots impractical to use, so yeah, need that taller profile case

  • @jose-miguelcolon6619
    @jose-miguelcolon6619 Před 17 dny +1

    Great work & video!

  • @thelaughingmanofficial

    Lovely use of Suno at the end for the song. 27:09

  • @LambdaHalbe
    @LambdaHalbe Před 17 dny +1

    Great work. I (aka "edrive" on the cx16 forum) just subbed.

  • @MyChannel-vm6dw
    @MyChannel-vm6dw Před 15 dny +11

    I LOVE that you've made preservation of this older but incredibly influential tech a FAMILY affair. Wife and Baby fractic are all in on it. So are the pooches LOL! love love love

  • @therealdebater
    @therealdebater Před 3 dny

    26:40 There is a strut, which I think will be provided with the case, that goes underneath the (beautiful) top cover, to give it a little more strength. Heavy monitors or the like sitting on top might be a bit too heavy, otherwise.

  • @Wobble2007
    @Wobble2007 Před 14 dny +1

    This is an amazing bit of kit, beautiful just to look at, it's perfect for porting all the decompiled 8-Bit games to for reference quality preserved playable versions of all the best legacy games, and maybe even powerful enough to have run ports of all the decompiled 16-Bit games, all with perfect OPL and MIDI music, talking of which It's amazing for too, that is playing and making authentic synth music, I bet someone has already made a tracker player for it too.

    • @cerberus50caldawg
      @cerberus50caldawg Před 11 dny

      100% best use case! LOL
      Makes me dream I was ambitious enough to create a full on keyboard/sequencer style interface rig for this hardware and make it all modular and easily transportable.
      Also I'd either have to find a nice already created synth software solution or create my own homebrew Basic music synth software suite which would allow me to record and save as well as loop synth tracks in live performances using this retro gear!
      I miss those OG C64 saw tooth and wave filter effect bass synth vibes.
      Probably won't get that with this.
      Probably might get much better with this?
      Right???
      This has so much more options and implementations for awesome sounds then what the OG C64 sound chip could do.
      Does sound different.
      Sounds really awesome actually.
      Needs a really well developed Synthesizer suite for it now!

    • @Wobble2007
      @Wobble2007 Před 11 dny +1

      @@cerberus50caldawg It does have a lot of potential, I'll be honest though, what I really want is and all-in-one bit of kit dedicated to chiptune/tracker/MIDI/MIDI-2.0, on an FPGA with nuked MT32/SC-55/SC-88/OPN/OPL/SID, and a modern high-end DSP to add in some more modern hardware accelerated synth, along with all the EQ & filters, add in some hyper low latency audio RAM for soundbanks and soundfonts, changeable OP-AMPS, a decent pre-AMP based on a Marantz-8 circuit, some nice DAC's dedicated to both input and output and one for each channel, that can be aggregated through a mixer pre-amp, a bit-crusher built in, as well as a vintage AMP simulator mode (they can be pretty damn good and vintage amps are not cheap now), all that in one module would be a pipe dream, maybe add in a CFexpress slot and playback controls, so you can just use it for pure enjoyment and listen to legit hardware-synth music without firing up your main system, could even give it streaming capabilities so you can have legit synth audio through wireless, obviously the choice of equipment you hook it up to from there would be dealers choice, but a synth module like would allow you to get rid of so much bulk and save you a small fortune, not to mention sound better if done right, it would be perfect for both production and just using for enjoyment of music, video games, whatever uses synth equipment you would have it in this module.

  • @rickmellor
    @rickmellor Před 16 dny +1

    Looks like it's about time to get another. I have the first release of the developer board and the first release of the case along with the upgraded keyboard. I haven't had time to pull them out of the boxes yet, but I still want to collect them all.

  • @MaxRomantschuk
    @MaxRomantschuk Před 12 dny +1

    This reminds me, I haven’t watched war games in a long time.

  • @arlo.infinity
    @arlo.infinity Před 18 dny +22

    Perifractic is such an 8-but guy!

    • @Robbnlinzi
      @Robbnlinzi Před 18 dny +3

      He has to be. We have a 9-bit guy on CZcams already. And the 10 bit guy took a large 1.25 byte out of me.

  • @Applecompuser
    @Applecompuser Před 18 dny +2

    Looks awesome! I also like the one that is black and red. PS Prayers and much condolences on your loss. 🙏🙏

  • @RayR
    @RayR Před 9 dny +1

    A great video from you. As far as the graphics chip purist, they don't have to use the advanced capabilities or they can fund/design a retro video expansion board for the X16 three expansions slots and use that instead. Also 256 colors existed on 8bit micros in 1985 and 1986. So when they say it's not historically accurate for the era they are definitely wrong. That being said I wouldn't mind using a Yamaha VDP or National Semiconductor graphics IC for mine when I buy one as an era accurate retro graphics solution.

    • @samp3413
      @samp3413 Před 6 dny

      The colour palette isn't the issue, it was getting all 256 on the screen simultaneously on the same scanline like in the arcades.
      Atari 8 bits could get all 256 colours down the screen via DLIs but it was limited to only a handful of colours horizontally, more using some tricks like PMG and PAL blending but nowhere near 256. The c64 could display all 16 colours horizontally in high res without any tricks despite the small palette. Computer manufacturers of the day had to compromise colours for resolution and so forth.. that means saving as many transistors as they could whilst choosing the best features they could think of. You couldn't have both without increasing costs significantly.

  • @curiousmind4870
    @curiousmind4870 Před 4 dny

    Excellent work! Congratulations to the team! Really nice computer. Although I'm an Apple //c owner since 1984 (with my heart more on the side of the 6502), and after seeing the graphic capabilities of this machine, is - not without certain pain - that I'm inclined for the Agon, with the Z80 (in its modern version the eZ80). Ok, they are different, I know. But it's cheap, with no FPGA and so simple, it's mind-blowing. If I could I would have both...

  • @scatalabad
    @scatalabad Před 18 dny +4

    Is that Trev Storey that worked for Acclaim? Newcastle lad. I worked with him there and also at Atomic Planet. Very good artist.

  • @giovannip.1433
    @giovannip.1433 Před 11 dny

    A USB 3+ connector to a PCB with all 'old' connectors could be an alternative too.
    Then you could have Atari, Sega, Sony cartridges, dial up , 9pin dins, scarf, etc.

  • @misterretrowolf1464
    @misterretrowolf1464 Před 16 dny +1

    Indeed a really great X blaster picture!!

  • @MeitsMSX
    @MeitsMSX Před 17 dny +3

    You say this might become the ultimate 8-bit chip tune creating 8 bit computer. You might want to check out the huge list of music extensions made for the MSX standard.
    It's not impossible for the X16 scene to do the same as the MSX scene did. But there's a job to be done then.

    • @another3997
      @another3997 Před 15 dny +1

      I'm not a fan of what the X16 turned into after the 8 bit guy first mentioned the idea, it's a victim of too many competing compromises. I also know that the core of the original MSX machines were mainly off the shelf parts, cobbled together with a huge set of compromises, meaning individual manufacturers struggled to sell them in any great numbers. Just like the X16. 😁 If you happen to have a nice, working, 40 year old MSX lying around with enough mod cons to make it usable in 2024, by all means use it. But all these '80s and '90 retro computers are getting rarer by the day, and consequently more expensive. The results you get aren't unique to MSX. The custom sound hardware of Atari 8 bits and the Commodore 64 are far more appealing than any common, off the shelf chips.

    • @MeitsMSX
      @MeitsMSX Před 15 dny +2

      @@another3997 My reply is more about how many soundchips are available. Off the shelve and MSX1 and MSX2 just had a PSG. Later machines already had an YM2413 onboard. The list of audio addons in the shape of cartridges is larger than I can summarize without peeking in some list. The list does cover a great majority of chips used in 80s/90s consoles and homecomputers. VGM files can almost always be played on the original chip on an MSX.
      Because MSX is often forgotten (mostly unintentionally), I thought it was worth mentioning. :)

  • @szabolcscsengoi4231
    @szabolcscsengoi4231 Před 11 dny

    I love the mobo! Clean and stylish! ❤️

  • @yopachi
    @yopachi Před 10 dny

    I like that early concept yellow case render 🦋🧈

  • @Badutspringer
    @Badutspringer Před 13 dny

    Good job. Well done, mate. Really appreciate the work you and the team have done. My thoughts to you and the family - losing a parent is very hard to describe - thanks for sharing Very inspiring video (BTW you and Cukoo - synth guy on here somewhere (spellling?) talk very much alike, even though he's a Greek Swedish Greek Swede youtuber/gearhead). God bless.

  • @fancybot7819
    @fancybot7819 Před 18 dny +4

    Hey Perifractic! I am not sure, but it seams to me, that the last RAM chip you inserted does not sit well in its socket. ;-) The left hand side needs a bit more push, I suppose. Am I right?

  • @thefumigator
    @thefumigator Před 18 dny

    Amazing. And while I'm not too fan of retro based computers, the sound and music is outstanding.

  • @techraan2160
    @techraan2160 Před 18 dny

    You are livin' the dream!

  • @angieandretti
    @angieandretti Před 13 dny +1

    The new case is okay but I'm really sad to see the deletion of the original case. I'd pay extra for the original case if given the option. Even if I could just get the old clear top panel with the cut-out logo. And a case where none of the card slots can be used... that's disappointing too. The initial release should include the 90 degree riser and a matching back panel right up front.

  • @j-fharbec379
    @j-fharbec379 Před 14 dny

    That ram chip wasn’t pushed all the way in and this really bothered me hahaha. I love what you did with the X16 design

  • @Shred_The_Weapon
    @Shred_The_Weapon Před 10 dny

    When you unboxed the mouse, it made me wonder what it would’ve been like if there had been one attached to the different C64 models we owned when I was growing up. We only had the 2 joysticks. They did what they were meant to. Wonder what playing UpNDown, JumpMan, Ghostbusters, Donkey Kong or any of the other games we played would’ve been like with a mouse.
    Even without being able to install that expansion board, will the X16 still be able to connect to a modem?

  • @stumblepuppy606
    @stumblepuppy606 Před 18 dny +6

    The speed jumpers, could they not be wired to a Turbo button type thing on a case so you don't have to open it up every time you need to change speed?

    • @Robbnlinzi
      @Robbnlinzi Před 18 dny

      Agreed. But why would you want to mess with it? There are no wrong answers here I’m not even challenging you just curious. :)

    • @JoeBurks_1
      @JoeBurks_1 Před 17 dny +1

      @@Robbnlinzias the guy who designed the clock stretching circuit for the X16: I have no idea. I got rid of the clock selection jumpers on my own OtterX hardware and replaced it with a socket for the oscillator. If one *really* wants other frequencies, then they can swap the oscillator. My primary use for the socket is bumping the clock to 10MHz. I rarely go below 8MHz except for debugging timing problems.

  • @TheJeremyHolloway
    @TheJeremyHolloway Před 18 dny +2

    I’d really like to see a breakdown of all the Motorola/MOS/Rockwell/WDC family of support chips someday. Like CIA vs PIA vs RIOT vs VIA, not to mention between the MOS 6551 ACIA - and 2nd source variants - and the Motorola MC6850 ACIA. It was like the support chip Wild Wild West in the 8-Bit and 16-Bit eras throughout the Apple, Atari, and Commodore platforms.

  • @jwoody8815
    @jwoody8815 Před 16 dny +1

    How much is a complete kit? I want one, but its gonna take me a while to save.
    Doubt ill use a CRT though , imma bit different, im not a fan of CRTs even when they were common, Hot, Heavy and take up too much space. (Though I may find a commodore monitor with a bad tube and create an LCD lookalike.)

  • @robotwo
    @robotwo Před 6 dny

    3:45 No way! You guys got Arne on board? You've got my attention

  • @donaldwiller9238
    @donaldwiller9238 Před 16 dny +1

    Great job man. 👍

  • @RacerX-
    @RacerX- Před 14 dny

    Nice! I would love to see the modem and wavetable card working. Also how to update the various firmware bits would be cool too. I have a DEV board from the first run last year of a 100 or so. Your board looks a bit different. Is there a list of changes anywhere between the earlier 2023 revs and the late 2023 version? Nice video as all Starfractic.

  • @albert_vds
    @albert_vds Před 18 dny +1

    It's such great logo!
    Also I'd like to mention that it's unfortunate that you have to use a credit card to enter raffal auctions, some more options would be awesome as I don't have(or need) a credit card.

  • @legacycz
    @legacycz Před 8 dny

    Pretty Commodore Box

  • @pk3776
    @pk3776 Před 18 dny

    Looks so cool 👍💯

  • @ericwallace4985
    @ericwallace4985 Před 18 dny +1

    Comment #2... A flexible ribbon out the cartridge port gap or out the back and into a 3d box for your card that doesn't fit that would a help like a side docking type thing? Its just optional options.

  • @metalfacemark
    @metalfacemark Před 18 dny +2

    @retrorecipes does the petski keyboard work with the mister cores for c64 as intended do you know? I’ve been searching for a usb c64 keyboard as the ideal keyboard for it for me and this looks like the closest I’ve seen so it’s quite exciting !

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 18 dny +1

      Please see the website where that and all is answered: perifractic.com/petsciiboard

    • @metalfacemark
      @metalfacemark Před 17 dny +1

      @@RetroRecipes i dont see mister mentioned, i cant see why it wouldnt work right enough, ill give it a go and report back.

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 17 dny +2

      @@metalfacemark It's under "Features": "Although MiSTer works differently to VICE and cannot use keymap files, PETSCIIBOARD's key layout is 95% compatible with MiSTer's C64 FPGA core and with the Commander X16 computer". Basically not all keys will be mapped correctly.

    • @metalfacemark
      @metalfacemark Před 17 dny +2

      @@RetroRecipes thank you, was looking in compatibilty rather than features, will give it a go!

  • @Blurns
    @Blurns Před 6 dny

    I think Terry A Davis would have loved this.

  • @danboid
    @danboid Před dnem

    That is the best intro to the X16 I've seen and likely ever will see. I'm chuffed you got your right angled cartridge slot and I agree that is a killer feature. Capcom VS SNK is one of the best C64 games ever IMO and its only possible because of the C64s cartridge support and who wants to open their case to swap games?
    I'm personally more interested in buying the OtterX16 than the official X16 becase I'd prefer to solder it together myself for max satisfaction.
    Have you also got a MEGA65 and/or a Spectrum Next? Is a Zzap! editor even allowed to own a Spectrum?
    Do you have a SCART display or a SCART to HDMI converter? I'm hoping to send you a SCARTy gift soon y'see.

  • @Jammet
    @Jammet Před 18 dny

    I guess my dream version of this would be home computer sized, with networking built-in.

  • @kenh6096
    @kenh6096 Před 15 dny

    Real shame they did not go with your cover yet as it's brilliant =D

  • @javiervidaurre6325
    @javiervidaurre6325 Před 7 dny

    William Shatner is still around to do the TV commercials!

  • @stevebaker3183
    @stevebaker3183 Před 17 dny

    You've brought a goofy grin to my face yet again, Peri. Thank you for your dedication to bringing the best parts of our past back to us! I very much want to get my hands on an X16.
    Despite the public nature of posting this - I wanted to let you know that my late father (with whom I experienced all of the wonders of the Commodore 64 and beyond, including "The Very First" demo) has a boxed Commodore 128 and an Amiga 500 Plus in his garage - would they be of any use to you?
    I know it would have made him happy to know they had gone to a good place.
    Perhaps drop me a DM if they would be of interest? Or point me in the right direction.
    All the best to you and your wonderful family.

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 17 dny +1

      That's extremely kind of you and I'm sorry for your loss. As you know I too love The Very First (I went through it on a Christmas video a couple of Xmases back). For your kind offer, I'd have to decline taking something so special. Giving away my original items and ones my Dad used (well he gave them away but still) is still a huge regret. I'd warmly encourage you to hang onto them forever ❤

  • @ShawnBrezny
    @ShawnBrezny Před 10 dny +1

    What about some love for the Mega65?

  • @madnar9
    @madnar9 Před 17 dny +1

    The spaceship graphic reminds me of the old Maplin catalogue art (Chris Foss)