I'm impressed with the attention to detail the designer's have included on this SY29. Considering she's 29ft the accommodation is very well laid out. The fact the wash boards have a home is testimony to the designer's actually having used the boat, so many modern boats still don't have a dedicated storage place . Great boat
Hi Graham these were the very reasons we picked the boat. We are so impressed by the way she is put together and the thought behind it. Still being impressed by her. Regards mike
Thanks for the tour. What a yacht!! The design features & the construction quality is fantastic. You've got yourself a good 'un there, Mike. Well chosen. Chin chin Rej
Great walkthrough and comparison vid. Lovely to see someone showing a comparison, without knocking the alternative, but instead explaining what you would change to make it better. Subscribed
Bring a sailor of many a year I find sitting facing forward uncomfortable in a seaway, not natural to me. In the cockpit you sit comfortable with your feet braced and the boat motion has no effect upon you. You sit forward facing inside and you very much notice the sea state. It is for this reason we removed the forward facing seat and now sit facing the galley which has dramatically improved comfort inside on long bumpy passages. We still never seem to helm from inside as when we get going we just switch the autohelm on. We sail all day with the autohelm on and move about the boat freely sitting only facing the beam and never the bow. The only brief time I face forward is to place a position on the chart. Think sitting forward at the inside helm is ok if motoring in flat water. That said when we find are selves in this situation I would normally still go grab the tiller if manoeuvres are required and if not we would be on the autohelm. Hope this helps a little to explain our thoughts on the inside helm position mike
Thank you for taking the time and trouble to put together this great video. Nicely shot and narrated/explained. As an LM27 Mk 1 owner it's interesting to look at the differences. There are a few things I prefer on mine, and several I prefer on yours. (A few more projects to add to my list, then!) But either makes an appealing and practical cruising boat. Happy sailing!
@@sailingcosiloveit She's called Basta Bon now, but that will soon change. Thinking about a name... She will be berthed in the north of the Netherlands, sailing the Waddenzee and North Sea
Great boat tour. Detailed. Clear what your criteria are. Sad to see you not sailing a crabber any more but this us obviously a good choice for your needs.
The LM joinery is cheap painted plywood, with a cockpit that will dump water straight into the hull. This one is obviously fitted to a much higher standard.
Always love your videos, thoughtful content and presentation style 👍You mentioned the head has a shower floor, would a shower installation be a practical possibility?
The heads are sealed and any water sprayed round here makes its way to the bilge. Hot and cold water and the design is the shower is just the tap that pulls out on a flexible pipe. You hold it in your hand while using it. That’s the same tap that is on the sink so the answer is yes very practical mike
Hi Adrian, no I have never helmed once from the pilot house seat and probably never will. Though in poor weather I do hide inside and enjoy the comfort but as a passenger. I normally sail on the wind vane or electrical autohelm and only take to the tiller in close quarters mike
Really nice sailboat... I can't believe it is only 28 feet long. It seems much bigger. -- QUESTION -- Do you think you could take 10 years and do a circumnavigation around the world in this.. "taking time to smell the flowers" along the way so to speak? Looking for that dream boat that is easy to handle but enough space for one or two people and strong enough to get around the planet at a slow speed.
Yes, absolutely! She was made with this in design. I’ve sailed her through thick and thin, she looks after you very well. She has a ocean rating. I’ve sailed on larger vessels that have been much quicker but skittish in comparison. She is a lazy sail but that means she is not too demanding just what you need for cruising. If I only had the money and time I’d be off doing just what your planning. She has the interior room of a well found 35ft boat not a modern lightweight.
Great revue. But I still wonder: How is the handling and performance and comfort in SY290 deep keel compared to LM-27? Is it worth the effort adding the depth?
Hi, nice review. How do you think this boat would fare on long passages eg Atlantic/Carribean or UK/Med? Seems a pretty robust boat for its size but slow sailer? Is this one for sale?
She may be slow but she is steady. I hope to be able to tell you how she performs on an ocean passage one day. I have every confidence in her abilities to make ocean passage
Hi M S the boat keeps heat quiet well. She has not had any extra insulation. The windows are the only point of condensation on really cold nights. I keep a hatch cracked if it’s not raining. The heating is diesel forced hot air which take any condensation away. It’s delivered to the bedroom, saloon and wheelhouse. The heater is located at the stern so is very quiet and easy to sleep with it on. Oh the ceilings are all plastic t&g which are great to keep the cold at bay mike
You mentioned that you thought the helm position was poorly designed ( at about 7:29 ), could you elaborate please. The boat and its ilk certainly seem the goods for northern climes. Thank you for your vids. BTW We are in Bangor, Co. Down
Hi David was in Bangor not long back. I find the helm is never used on the inside. I steer by hand on the tiller by choice and never in the wheelhouse. Don’t actually know why. If maybe I had a canal to motor down in the rain then very possibly but otherwise just never use it. When in the wheelhouse on passage the boat is normally under auto helm or wind vane. On auto helm you can control from inner helm positions without the requirements of actually steering manual. Wheel just seems not required to me but other people may love it. Sorry can’t do any better than this mike
Thanks for that tour , my friend , you actually have a really nice boat there . As it happens , i'm on the market for another boat , to replace the cruiser/racer i sold last year . It will almost certainly be my last , and highly likely destined to become a full time live aboard . To be honest , i've never really considered a motorsailer , but in a lot of ways it could make sense as age begins to beckon . I could very easily be swayed . I will admit , there are bit's i don't like , and some i'm not that happy about . But on the whole there is an awful lot i do , and let's be honest , the bits i don't like , maybe changeable anyway . What is her overall , 27 , or 29 ? .
Hi Micky, I’m a true sailor at heart and never considered a motorsailer in my younger days. I’m sorry to say I feel the cold now and I like the stability as well. For a motorsailer she continues to surprise me with her performance though she is not fast just comfortable, predictable and steady which seem to be my choices today. LOD l8.38 meters regards mike
@@sailingcosiloveit 18 ! , errr , i'm sorta guessing you mean 8.38 . 18.38 equates to something like 60 odd foot , 8 comes out , at what i would regard is a little closer , at 27 feet . However , i agree with what your saying regarding the cold , i'm exactly the same . When i was younger , i lived on my boat , and often walked around the pontoons in just a tee shirt , in the middle of winter ! . No way would that happen now , so an enclosed wheelhouse does have it's appeal , but this is one of the areas i'm not too keen on . The galley looks to be a , little too compact . However i have since taken a look at a couple of the LM versions , and it seems , as i figured there is room for improvement . Another thing i like on the LM , is the forward cockpit seats seem to fold to give a huge flat area just outside the wheel house . Of course that is at the expense of cockpit lockers . There also appears to be no fixed bulkhead at the aft end of the wheel house , though that could be in filled , i would still have to question the wisdom of such a large cockpit on a openwater craft . A nice space , but huge water volume . Self draining is certainly questionable too . I absolutely love that cockpit table design . The LM has that too , with the fold around the same place as the forward cockpit seats fold . Very civilized . Incidentally , i'm around 5 , 9 so judging by your height , i would also have full headroom . You have given me food for thought . Myself , i do have a replacement in mind , despite being an old design , to me , a still pleasing design . That's the Nantucket clipper . It's about 30-32 feet over all , however there is a lot of overhang , both front and back , so i don't think there will be much difference below deck with regard to space . I think it's about 21 feet on the waterline , incidentally only 2 foot longer than the boat i just sold . It's still below 10 m , which is my aim , and being a yawl , does have the advantage of a split rig , but of course no wheelhouse . The cockpit is also vastly smaller , though an engine access panel in the bath , does bring reliable self draining into question , if seals are neglected . Just as on the Scan yacht / Lm design . In one of your videos , you mention issues with the genoa . From what i can see your g car track is way too short , leaving your jib sheet at totally the wrong angle . You really need to bring that sheet back to set the jib lower . One quick fix i've seen in the past , is a running block . Spliced to a halyard which is itself attached to a mooring cleat aft . The halyard is infinitely adjustable in length , so is more adaptable to fore sheet angle . Now to be honest , i'm not sure of the pitfalls with this set up , and really the best solution is the obvious , fit a longer track . But you could give that a shot and see what happens .
Hi Micky you will need to catch up. Genoa is all sorted and working well at the moment but thanks for the tips. You were correct on thinking 8.38 must of been very weary when writing. No excuse I know. I’m sure you will make your mind up on a motorsailer after you have seen a few. The saloon is good in size and the galley works very well or at least it does for us. Many a top meal has come from it when underway, which you can do while keeping a eye out. Regards mike
@@sailingcosiloveit Yep i have to be honest , Mike , i have been looking at the Scanyacht , and Lm , a lot more recently . Your right , the idea of a wheelhouse does appeal , and another feature i like , is their both double enders . I wouldn't worry about that mistake , we all make them , and i picked it up rather quick , anyway . I'm a trucker , and pull 13m trailers around all the time , so i picked it up almost instantly . I certainly agree with your comment on the saloon , it is a decent size , and actually i think the foc'sle is also a good size as well . I'm just not so hot on the heads , which is limited (i would like a shower) , and to me the galley is also a bit cramped , though as i said before , that could be updated . Now with that said , i've recently watched another look around of an Lm , and the saloon looks even bigger . It appears to have a slightly different layout , with the main seating to port . So it occurs to me , that with a little thought , not only could the heads also be overcome , but i could fit a solid fuel heater as well . Something else that would be a nice to have . As i mentioned before , the new boat is likely to become a liveaboard , and this is the reason i'm kicking my heels . Like you , i would almost certain be singlehanding , so somewhere nice to sit outta the wind , while on watch would be absolutely priceless . Being able to extend that to making a cuppa as well , would be pure luxury . I've even got a small patio outside , hah sorry . The wheelhouse , is perfect as far as sailing and navigating is concerned , only the galley is a problem in terms of a liveaboard . I'm asking a lot from a sub 10m anyway , i know that , but i really don't want anything any bigger . Your walk round has started something , so it's all your fault . And yes i am trying to catch up , mainly to see how they sail , and handle . Trouble is i don't spend everyday online . I'm busy finishing the refurbishment of a 22 year old motorhome . Mechanics are finished , electric not quite . But right now , i'm tidying the body , and the weathers not quite up to the task .
Hi Dave good point, not measured them as such due to the fact I sleep on the long side. The starboard one may well be shorter but the port one may possibly be longer due to the fact they are 40cm higher, which also means it must be wider as well being higher up in the expanding bow area. Food for thought I think. I’m very short at 5’7” and my feet don’t get anywhere near the bottom. Lisa on the other hand is 5’4” and has never complained about her side. Hope this helps a bit mike
@@sailingcosiloveit BTW, I'd love to see a video on how you use the legs to beach the boat. Or at least see what the backing plate for the mounting bolt looks like. I've yet to see anything like that on CZcams.
What an interesting little boat. Never knew it existed, now I want one :) But can you clarify something for me, I read somewhere the hull is balsa cored GRP, is that the case? Is that for the upper hull only, or the bottom as well?
The hull most definitely is not balsa cored. The deck may have balsa in the sides and plywood under the areas that require strength like cleats etc. I can’t say if the LM is the same but would think so. There were only a handful of Scanyacht’s made. You will be hard pushed to find a Scanyacht though they do come up every now and then, just not when your looking. Seen one not long ago but was expensive at 75k. Scanyacht’s normally average 40-50k and the LM’s anything from 10-30k. Good luck mike
The shallow draft can dry out fine on softer bottoms “mud” but has a little more of an heel on sand but drys out fine just an uncomfortable angle if your staying onboard.
@@sailingcosiloveit Thankyou for the info. My local harbour is mud so I think it would be fine. Length maximum is 9.6 so just under this. Do you know if many of these boats come on the market or do you know anyone in the south west with one I could daysail with? I think you mentioned in your video these boats a category A rated. It this rating for the shallow draft also. Sorry lots of questions Cheers Bruce
@user-wt7pw1sm3q Hi yes both shallow and deep are A rated. The depth of a keel doesn’t have a lot to do with seaworthiness or there would be no motorised vessels 🚢. Come to think about it life boats are shallow draft and they are the safest out there. I’m sorry I don’t know of any for sale at this present time as there were only a handful built. Good luck mike
You can guarantee you can cruise under sail at 5 knots which ain’t to bad. Got 1000 of k’s in to back this up. Motor runs at under 2.5 ltrs per hour depending on the conditions. 2.5 ltrs the worst at 5 knots but getting as low as 2.1 in calmer conditions still at five. You can drop this to 4.5 knots below cruising revvs delivering a range of 360 nm on a tank. Figures I’ve not needed as she can sail quite happily on an F2. Regards mike
Thanks for the Tour! Love your adventures!
Nice of you to say
Another good video
Cheers
Ti's a beautiful boat indeed.
Cheers Simon
Enjoyed the tour of your boat and the comparison to the LM 27, lot's of good design features on both boats.
Great vid ! Beautifully explained about a beautiful boat. 👍
what a great walkthrough thank you.
I'm impressed with the attention to detail the designer's have included on this SY29. Considering she's 29ft the accommodation is very well laid out. The fact the wash boards have a home is testimony to the designer's actually having used the boat, so many modern boats still don't have a dedicated storage place . Great boat
Hi Graham these were the very reasons we picked the boat. We are so impressed by the way she is put together and the thought behind it. Still being impressed by her. Regards mike
Hi..I'm new to your channel and can honestly say that was the best boat review/ description by far I have seen. Thank you.
Wow, thanks! 😁
You’ve got a beautiful boat there and it’s clear she is loved and looked after.
Thanks very much but it does take its toll every now and then. Regards mike
Great tour and a great boat, enjoyed 👍
Thanks
Wow, what a great boat. I appreciate how much effort you put into going through the entire boat and explaining all the features.
Cheers Ted nice of you to say so mike
Beautiful 🤩! Thanks 😊 from USA!
More than welcome chief, from UK
Thank you for introducing this wonderful sailboat. Lovely and seaworthy design.
Welcome ⚓️
Man! That LM err.. SY is super pristine 😍
I really love the presentation, super details 🤩
Thank you so much 😁 mike
Beautiful boat.
Thank you very much!
Thanks for the tour. What a yacht!! The design features & the construction quality is fantastic. You've got yourself a good 'un there, Mike. Well chosen. Chin chin Rej
Cheers Reg
I found your channel at the weekend. Fantastic love how she is laid out. Very clean nice looking.
Hi Tony, Lisa is always on at me about keeping her clean and tidy. You must be a witness on my behalf lol mike
Great walkthrough and comparison vid.
Lovely to see someone showing a comparison, without knocking the alternative, but instead explaining what you would change to make it better.
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Thanks for the appreciation mike
Best walkthrough I’ve seen, not to mention the added detail on the LM 27. What don't you like about the helm position?
Bring a sailor of many a year I find sitting facing forward uncomfortable in a seaway, not natural to me. In the cockpit you sit comfortable with your feet braced and the boat motion has no effect upon you. You sit forward facing inside and you very much notice the sea state. It is for this reason we removed the forward facing seat and now sit facing the galley which has dramatically improved comfort inside on long bumpy passages. We still never seem to helm from inside as when we get going we just switch the autohelm on. We sail all day with the autohelm on and move about the boat freely sitting only facing the beam and never the bow. The only brief time I face forward is to place a position on the chart.
Think sitting forward at the inside helm is ok if motoring in flat water. That said when we find are selves in this situation I would normally still go grab the tiller if manoeuvres are required and if not we would be on the autohelm.
Hope this helps a little to explain our thoughts on the inside helm position mike
@@sailingcosiloveit That's very clear and makes a lot of sense, thanks!
Thank you for taking the time and trouble to put together this great video. Nicely shot and narrated/explained. As an LM27 Mk 1 owner it's interesting to look at the differences. There are a few things I prefer on mine, and several I prefer on yours. (A few more projects to add to my list, then!) But either makes an appealing and practical cruising boat. Happy sailing!
Thanks for your kind comments, just say it as I see it. Happy sailing to you too mike
She’s beautiful and looks like a very comfortable cruiser
Hi Danny she is that and more mike
Brill, thanks! I luv this channel. Best wishes from Denmark ⚓️😃 (proud owner of an LM16 lil motorboat)
Hi Katrine, I didn’t even know they did a LM16 wow I bet it’s fun! All the best from Wales mike
Beautiful yacht 😎
Cheers 👍
True. The main reason I bought her was the Colin Archer Design. Great boat.
Thanks for the tour and comparison. Swallow is a comfy seaworthy cottage on the sea. Good sailing!
Hi Gavin she really is and your very welcome mike. Good sailing to you too!
Impressive little ship.
Thanks mike
Came across your channel a few weeks ago. Loved the Scanyacht and original LM27. Long tory short, as of today I own an LM27 :)
Well Peter I couldn't be more pleased for you. What's she called and where are you going to berth her? mike
@@sailingcosiloveit She's called Basta Bon now, but that will soon change. Thinking about a name... She will be berthed in the north of the Netherlands, sailing the Waddenzee and North Sea
Great video really helpful thanks
Nice of you to say so Patrick, cheers Mike
Great boat tour. Detailed. Clear what your criteria are. Sad to see you not sailing a crabber any more but this us obviously a good choice for your needs.
Still have a fond spot for crabbers but the adventure must go on
@@sailingcosiloveit you can anywhere in that boat! What's on your shortlist of destinations?
The LM joinery is cheap painted plywood, with a cockpit that will dump water straight into the hull. This one is obviously fitted to a much higher standard.
One could say they have gone the extra mile eh Larry. 👌
Always love your videos, thoughtful content and presentation style 👍You mentioned the head has a shower floor, would a shower installation be a practical possibility?
The heads are sealed and any water sprayed round here makes its way to the bilge. Hot and cold water and the design is the shower is just the tap that pulls out on a flexible pipe. You hold it in your hand while using it. That’s the same tap that is on the sink so the answer is yes very practical mike
Nice one
Thanks
Mate lovely boat! question, do you ever helm from inside (sailing or motor) in poor weather?
Hi Adrian, no I have never helmed once from the pilot house seat and probably never will. Though in poor weather I do hide inside and enjoy the comfort but as a passenger. I normally sail on the wind vane or electrical autohelm and only take to the tiller in close quarters mike
Really nice sailboat... I can't believe it is only 28 feet long. It seems much bigger. -- QUESTION -- Do you think you could take 10 years and do a circumnavigation around the world in this.. "taking time to smell the flowers" along the way so to speak? Looking for that dream boat that is easy to handle but enough space for one or two people and strong enough to get around the planet at a slow speed.
Yes, absolutely! She was made with this in design. I’ve sailed her through thick and thin, she looks after you very well. She has a ocean rating. I’ve sailed on larger vessels that have been much quicker but skittish in comparison. She is a lazy sail but that means she is not too demanding just what you need for cruising. If I only had the money and time I’d be off doing just what your planning. She has the interior room of a well found 35ft boat not a modern lightweight.
Great revue. But I still wonder: How is the handling and performance and comfort in SY290 deep keel compared to LM-27?
Is it worth the effort adding the depth?
It’s gotta make the boat stiffer and better to windward.
Hi, nice review. How do you think this boat would fare on long passages eg Atlantic/Carribean or UK/Med? Seems a pretty robust boat for its size but slow sailer? Is this one for sale?
She may be slow but she is steady. I hope to be able to tell you how she performs on an ocean passage one day. I have every confidence in her abilities to make ocean passage
Nice vid! How is she insulated and heated? Is there a way to have a wc-combined shower cabin?
Hi M S the boat keeps heat quiet well. She has not had any extra insulation. The windows are the only point of condensation on really cold nights. I keep a hatch cracked if it’s not raining. The heating is diesel forced hot air which take any condensation away. It’s delivered to the bedroom, saloon and wheelhouse. The heater is located at the stern so is very quiet and easy to sleep with it on. Oh the ceilings are all plastic t&g which are great to keep the cold at bay mike
You mentioned that you thought the helm position was poorly designed ( at about 7:29 ), could you elaborate please.
The boat and its ilk certainly seem the goods for northern climes.
Thank you for your vids.
BTW We are in Bangor, Co. Down
Hi David was in Bangor not long back. I find the helm is never used on the inside. I steer by hand on the tiller by choice and never in the wheelhouse.
Don’t actually know why. If maybe I had a canal to motor down in the rain then very possibly but otherwise just never use it. When in the wheelhouse on passage the boat is normally under auto helm or wind vane. On auto helm you can control from inner helm positions without the requirements of actually steering manual. Wheel just seems not required to me but other people may love it. Sorry can’t do any better than this mike
Interesting tour.. I subed and liked as I was following the posts on the gaffer. Do you still have her?
Hi no I’ve passed her on now, sad to see her go and have some regrets mike
@@sailingcosiloveit Thanks, still following, as I find the videos very informative…..
Thanks for that tour , my friend , you actually have a really nice boat there . As it happens , i'm on the market for another boat , to replace the cruiser/racer i sold last year . It will almost certainly be my last , and highly likely destined to become a full time live aboard .
To be honest , i've never really considered a motorsailer , but in a lot of ways it could make sense as age begins to beckon . I could very easily be swayed .
I will admit , there are bit's i don't like , and some i'm not that happy about . But on the whole there is an awful lot i do , and let's be honest , the bits i don't like , maybe changeable anyway .
What is her overall , 27 , or 29 ? .
Hi Micky, I’m a true sailor at heart and never considered a motorsailer in my younger days. I’m sorry to say I feel the cold now and I like the stability as well. For a motorsailer she continues to surprise me with her performance though she is not fast just comfortable, predictable and steady which seem to be my choices today. LOD l8.38 meters regards mike
@@sailingcosiloveit 18 ! , errr , i'm sorta guessing you mean 8.38 . 18.38 equates to something like 60 odd foot , 8 comes out , at what i would regard is a little closer , at 27 feet . However , i agree with what your saying regarding the cold , i'm exactly the same . When i was younger , i lived on my boat , and often walked around the pontoons in just a tee shirt , in the middle of winter ! .
No way would that happen now , so an enclosed wheelhouse does have it's appeal , but this is one of the areas i'm not too keen on . The galley looks to be a , little too compact . However i have since taken a look at a couple of the LM versions , and it seems , as i figured there is room for improvement . Another thing i like on the LM , is the forward cockpit seats seem to fold to give a huge flat area just outside the wheel house . Of course that is at the expense of cockpit lockers . There also appears to be no fixed bulkhead at the aft end of the wheel house , though that could be in filled , i would still have to question the wisdom of such a large cockpit on a openwater craft . A nice space , but huge water volume . Self draining is certainly questionable too . I absolutely love that cockpit table design . The LM has that too , with the fold around the same place as the forward cockpit seats fold . Very civilized . Incidentally , i'm around 5 , 9 so judging by your height , i would also have full headroom . You have given me food for thought .
Myself , i do have a replacement in mind , despite being an old design , to me , a still pleasing design . That's the Nantucket clipper . It's about 30-32 feet over all , however there is a lot of overhang , both front and back , so i don't think there will be much difference below deck with regard to space . I think it's about 21 feet on the waterline , incidentally only 2 foot longer than the boat i just sold . It's still below 10 m , which is my aim , and being a yawl , does have the advantage of a split rig , but of course no wheelhouse . The cockpit is also vastly smaller , though an engine access panel in the bath , does bring reliable self draining into question , if seals are neglected . Just as on the Scan yacht / Lm design .
In one of your videos , you mention issues with the genoa . From what i can see your g car track is way too short , leaving your jib sheet at totally the wrong angle . You really need to bring that sheet back to set the jib lower . One quick fix i've seen in the past , is a running block . Spliced to a halyard which is itself attached to a mooring cleat aft . The halyard is infinitely adjustable in length , so is more adaptable to fore sheet angle . Now to be honest , i'm not sure of the pitfalls with this set up , and really the best solution is the obvious , fit a longer track . But you could give that a shot and see what happens .
Hi Micky you will need to catch up. Genoa is all sorted and working well at the moment but thanks for the tips. You were correct on thinking 8.38 must of been very weary when writing. No excuse I know. I’m sure you will make your mind up on a motorsailer after you have seen a few. The saloon is good in size and the galley works very well or at least it does for us. Many a top meal has come from it when underway, which you can do while keeping a eye out. Regards mike
@@sailingcosiloveit Yep i have to be honest , Mike , i have been looking at the Scanyacht , and Lm , a lot more recently . Your right , the idea of a wheelhouse does appeal , and another feature i like , is their both double enders . I wouldn't worry about that mistake , we all make them , and i picked it up rather quick , anyway . I'm a trucker , and pull 13m trailers around all the time , so i picked it up almost instantly .
I certainly agree with your comment on the saloon , it is a decent size , and actually i think the foc'sle is also a good size as well . I'm just not so hot on the heads , which is limited (i would like a shower) , and to me the galley is also a bit cramped , though as i said before , that could be updated . Now with that said , i've recently watched another look around of an Lm , and the saloon looks even bigger . It appears to have a slightly different layout , with the main seating to port . So it occurs to me , that with a little thought , not only could the heads also be overcome , but i could fit a solid fuel heater as well . Something else that would be a nice to have .
As i mentioned before , the new boat is likely to become a liveaboard , and this is the reason i'm kicking my heels . Like you , i would almost certain be singlehanding , so somewhere nice to sit outta the wind , while on watch would be absolutely priceless . Being able to extend that to making a cuppa as well , would be pure luxury . I've even got a small patio outside , hah sorry . The wheelhouse , is perfect as far as sailing and navigating is concerned , only the galley is a problem in terms of a liveaboard . I'm asking a lot from a sub 10m anyway , i know that , but i really don't want anything any bigger . Your walk round has started something , so it's all your fault . And yes i am trying to catch up , mainly to see how they sail , and handle . Trouble is i don't spend everyday online . I'm busy finishing the refurbishment of a 22 year old motorhome . Mechanics are finished , electric not quite . But right now , i'm tidying the body , and the weathers not quite up to the task .
Hey Micky put LM27 Scanyacht into an eBay search and get a load of that mike
Great review. The only thing you don't mention is the length of the berths, the V-berth seems shorter than the LM27 due to the extra cupboard.
Hi Dave good point, not measured them as such due to the fact I sleep on the long side. The starboard one may well be shorter but the port one may possibly be longer due to the fact they are 40cm higher, which also means it must be wider as well being higher up in the expanding bow area. Food for thought I think. I’m very short at 5’7” and my feet don’t get anywhere near the bottom. Lisa on the other hand is 5’4” and has never complained about her side. Hope this helps a bit mike
@@sailingcosiloveit I'm also 5'7", so if you fit yours, then I must fit in a LM27 V-berth. that's good to know.
@@sailingcosiloveit BTW, I'd love to see a video on how you use the legs to beach the boat. Or at least see what the backing plate for the mounting bolt looks like. I've yet to see anything like that on CZcams.
Just want to add, this is the best boat review ever, you should also review other boats as this review is faultless.
What an interesting little boat. Never knew it existed, now I want one :)
But can you clarify something for me, I read somewhere the hull is balsa cored GRP, is that the case?
Is that for the upper hull only, or the bottom as well?
The hull most definitely is not balsa cored. The deck may have balsa in the sides and plywood under the areas that require strength like cleats etc. I can’t say if the LM is the same but would think so. There were only a handful of Scanyacht’s made.
You will be hard pushed to find a Scanyacht though they do come up every now and then, just not when your looking. Seen one not long ago but was expensive at 75k. Scanyacht’s normally average 40-50k and the LM’s anything from 10-30k. Good luck mike
@@sailingcosiloveit That is great, thank you for answering.
If Google is right only about 6 were built, so chances of finding one are slim.
Ye I think that’s about right but don’t give up people always change sooner or later. 🤞🏻
Can the shallow draft type dry out. Do they have bilge keels or did they make a bilge keel model.
Regards Bruce
The shallow draft can dry out fine on softer bottoms “mud” but has a little more of an heel on sand but drys out fine just an uncomfortable angle if your staying onboard.
@@sailingcosiloveit Thankyou for the info. My local harbour is mud so I think it would be fine. Length maximum is 9.6 so just under this.
Do you know if many of these boats come on the market or do you know anyone in the south west with one I could daysail with? I think you mentioned in your video these boats a category A rated. It this rating for the shallow draft also. Sorry lots of questions
Cheers Bruce
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Hi yes both shallow and deep are A rated. The depth of a keel doesn’t have a lot to do with seaworthiness or there would be no motorised vessels 🚢. Come to think about it life boats are shallow draft and they are the safest out there.
I’m sorry I don’t know of any for sale at this present time as there were only a handful built. Good luck mike
The 390DS looks lovely...thoughts?
Worlds apart
@@sailingcosiloveit other than the size, in what way?
Hi pal... enjoyed it.
What about range and performance?
You can guarantee you can cruise under sail at 5 knots which ain’t to bad. Got 1000 of k’s in to back this up. Motor runs at under 2.5 ltrs per hour depending on the conditions. 2.5 ltrs the worst at 5 knots but getting as low as 2.1 in calmer conditions still at five. You can drop this to 4.5 knots below cruising revvs delivering a range of 360 nm on a tank. Figures I’ve not needed as she can sail quite happily on an F2. Regards mike
@@sailingcosiloveit thanks pal. Top answer. Sounds great 👍