Rudeus' Sisters - What Happens to Norn and Aisha Greyrat?
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- čas přidán 15. 11. 2021
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Rudeus Greyrat's little sisters Norn and Aisha are two popular Mushoku Tensei characters who were born in season 1 of the Jobless Reincarnation anime series, and whose lives play out throughout the Mushoku Tensei light novel series. In this video I talk about what happens to Norn and Aisha Greyrat in the series, including things like who does Norn marry? Do Norn and Aisha get along? There will be spoilers for all of Mushoku Tensei including Redundancy, though the Aisha stuff from the deleted Mushoku Tensei Redundancy chapter about Aisha x Ars is covered in a separate video.
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I do love how Mushoku Tensei has such a number of interesting and fairly developed characters that the story can shift from action adventure to drama to shojo slice of life and it all seems to be a completely natural part of the overall story.
I love it for that too! It’s slice of life stuff is just as intense as the plot heavy stuff.
That's what you call life. And Mushoku tensei showcase that really well, unlike other isekai(Looking at you in another world with my smartphone).
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to this day im in awe every time "it hits" me that rudys saga is actually a "set up" story for that worlds "main" event!!!
Yup, he's the Sarah Connor of the Mushoku Tensei universe
@@nicoleuswhite2192 although wtf is going on with terminator now. Starting to feel meaningless lol
You shouldn't to forget that terminator 1 and 2 are sit up stories for the main event "all those terrible terminator movies"
@@tach1794 I understand the first 4 but after that it feels like what they tried to achieve was pointless with salvation and genisys
ahem, my friend would like to know what exactly is the world's main event.
You know I also wonder if Norn's younger years with Paul as her hero and protector gave her a bit of DILF fetish. Because in that light it makes even more sense why she'd go for the daddiest daddy in the series, Ruijerd.
Her mom foreshadowing "Superd will eat you!"
@@panzlithium oh as source reader I was aware, I was rolling over it.
Superd will eat you... LMAO
Did that happen lol?
@@panzlithium You mean superb will eat u out.👀
Another tragedy of the Warp Explosion is the relationship of these Sisters. If they had been raised together in the house I am sure they would have been best friends. Its kind of sad to think about.
idk, they were only separated for 2 years and they were very young at the time, so I don't know if they'd have been that much closer if it hadn't happened. There are too many other things at play like the difference in talent, the fact Lilia made Aisha feel insecure about her position as part of the family, and so on. They both get their own nice circles of friends as they grow up and I think in a way that's more realistic (I'm an only child so I wouldn't know really, but nobody I know is best friends with their siblings as an adult!).
@@NatalieXHunter I just think that if they had been raised in the house with their Family, instead of Norn's Grandmothers, they would not have been pushed apart at such a young age. Your right in that nothing is for sure, but they would have had a better chance when being raised in an environment that didnt force them apart. Still what happened happened. As for you last sentence I am in fact Best Friends with my Brother (FYI this is my Wife's Account, so yeah I am a Guy), but we do have about a 10 year difference with me being the oldest. I guess we both see different possibilities due to our own life experiences.
I want more stories of, Lucille Superdia-Greyrat, Norns daughter.
According to Uncle Orsted-Sama, she delivers the final blow to Laplace, Just like her father 500yrs before.
I like how they give his little sisters a little spotlight and development of their own as they all go there own paths at the end of their stories and have families of their own.
Another great video. When I first read the web novel months ago, I did dislike Norn as to how she treats Rudy but with that is a good character who slowly lowers the resentment towards him over time. Aisha might be best younger sister but Norn is definitely best irl younger sister because how real siblings fight and argue and is not always sunshine and rainbows .
I'm just addicted to ur channel it's awesome
Norn is an interesting character, i can why people hate her in the start but the way she thinks actually make sense in her pov, also nice video, thank you!
The chapter in the light novel where we see Norn's point of view made me respect her a lot because of how much self reflection she has. She could have just continued on hating, and being afraid of Rudeus, but she took a mental step back, and looked at everything objectively, and realized that Rudeus' actions weren't fueled by indifference, but rather fear of losing Norn.
I kinda forgot that the Ruijerd was a shipper of his teammates...
Yeah it's pretty funny that he got salty about his ship. Though of course, his ship becomes canon eventually.
@@NatalieXHunter lol just the way you say this makes if funnier
you should've pointed out that rudeus is the first leader of the norn simp club, and got demoted after 3 days
Great job!
Love this content
I hate spoiling stories for myself but the story is so enjoyable that I'm giving into it. Thank you for the videos and your voice has a resonance with my ears which makes it further difficult 😭.
I'm so happy I get to experience the story mushoku tensei it's clearly one of my favorite of favorites
When you mentioned ririna i got flashbacks to when i read it in the web novel and the chills it gave me when aisha mentioned "a cat in the basement" not long after "the diary"
Haha yeah it seemed like it was going to be something dodgy but it was just Eris wanting to keep a catgirl.
Oh no...
I’m actually disappointed Norn turns into a writer. I was hoping she’d take up after her dad as a swordswoman. Still it’s super sweet who she ends up with.
Aisha takes up the sword doesn't she.
Well Norn is married to a supard, in a supard village, the supard are powerful so she isn't really needed
Nothing wrong with being a writer, lol!
@@shadaviagoodwin7678 if she did she’d be better lol
@@NatalieXHunter pen is mightier than the sword…
These are all Paul grayrat genetics fault. only if paul wasn't from Grayrat family none them would have ended up this kinky.
You know Norn and Aisha are like their mothers in a way. Zenith is a rather normal woman and it’s only because of her healing prowess that she’s not but even still, she wants a normal family life. Lilia became a maid later on but she was rather talented herself and being a maid wasn’t a first choice whereas Aisha wanted to become a maid at first due to reasons but then seems to branch out and fully utilize her talents
Nice video!
Thanks!
Norn making some cash with her life experience and a bit of dissing with Aisha XD
Autobiography - An Average Person Surrounded by Geniuses
The Anguish of a Genius - Aisha Greyrat
Radiuses grandmother strikes again every decision she ever made for her family only hurt them
Natalie the ultimate weeb queen ❤
Awww, thank you!
@@NatalieXHunter I also second the opinion above yours.
.Very relateable story that hit abit to close to home in some ways. i enjoy it their story more than i enjoy Rudy's story, makes it harder to wait for there part in the story.
I think the thing with norn is very weird. She's clearly had a daddy issues type of attachment to the good old reliable father figure strong man rujured and as a result when she's of age then she marries him and bears his child
It feels very weird to me, like a pre school girl liking a teacher throughout pre school then highschool then marrying him after she finally graduates.
Either way it's not nearly as weird as what happens with Aisha and her getting with Rudy's son.
Overall I prefer Aisha simply because she feels very mushoku tensei while norn does feel like a more generic character- which is clearly intentional as it's supposed to support the theme that she's a "normal" person
Yeah, I prefer Aisha too - Norn is a nice character but I prefer the less 'normal' ones. Even when I'm thinking about the story I get Norn and Lucy mixed up because they're both kinda normal compared with the rest of the family!
@@NatalieXHunter agreed 100
Lucy living in romcom childhood friend anime
I also like Aisha more than norn . And i think what happen to norn with ruijerd is pretty ok since they both adult and regarding age difference, i think we cant use our world logic in there ,there's tons of race with diferent lifespan and time to reach adulthood.
What i cant accept is what happen to Aisha tho, incest is way worse than cheating, it has bad psycological ,social and health impact, and i cant believe Rudy let that happen to his family,especially with the reason Aisha and rudy's son go with each other, Rudy son's just like her breasts and Aisha have some mental problem with how she don't get to explore more of her life compared to norn
@@datguui9021 Rudy was actually extremely disgusted with the whole thing when he found out and wanted to tear them apart. It's only when they ran and hid for a year and had a lot of time to think and calm himself that he ended up in a compromise. There was no actual way to resolve that mess, especially when Aisha is already pregnant.
It's harder to write normal characters, so when it happens, I appreciate them more, so Norn is better.
Norn = *"I LOVE DILFs"* **BECOMES NOVELIST** **AVERAGE GIRL SURROUNDED BY TALENTED PEOPLE**
Aisha = *"I LOVE SHOTA"* **SWEET HOME ALABAMA intensifies** **SUPER MAID**
They are truly the oposite of each other
Norn : loves sugar daddy
Aisha : shotacon
How this route become hentai, still confused me.
@@aditghifari5039 best route haha
Your channel has been a great discovery for me.
Keep doing an amazing job with great content like this. 😀👏
Glad you enjoy it!
Thank you for another wonderful video. I have never looked at your videos as spoilers but as "coming attractions" style. You have also raised my interest into reading the Manga series since, for different reasons, many anime series don't cover the full Manga. While I really hope there will be multiple seasons, life can step in providing obstacles. However, I will still try to watch your videos regardless of topic completely respecting the knowledge and opinions you bring. Admittedly, your overwhelmingly beautiful and professional voice helps. 😆
Eyes up, will devour my soul.
Norn trashing Roxy when she arrived home, gained me my respect. She is not afraid of and became a voice for Sylphie's feelings that she cant say. Her being a writer too is so good as well as her fans club literally be officially recognized by Rudi.
Nah fam she was speaking for herself and herself only, the fan club is just a bunch of simps thinking she's cute. Although, her accepting Paul's death and moved on to become a hard working student council president and a writer after graduating is great,
Norn trashing Roxy really made me hate Norn but like a looooot, not because of Roxy but because she knows very well that his own sister is the result of a similar situation
yeah, a bad situation that should have never happened
Nice!
Thanks!
Thank you for not spoiling the story i really do appreciate it
LN Spoilers.
I really liked the part of the story where Rudy was forced to be the guardian of the two sisters and got a first taste of kind of a parenthood. It was nice to see how he was struggling to keep the high standard of Guardianship that he has and he often judged Paul against. I think that experience with his sisters, helped him to appreciate Paul more, when the tragedy happened.
You have very low standards
@@meh5992 huh?
And Aisha pays Rudy back with fking his son,great work,gEnIuS
Kinda reminds of my situation with these sisters
Great video
Thanks!
I started reading the light novel after watching your videos
Cool! I hope you like it!
Damn, Norn ends up with him? Lucky girl 🥺
ikr!
bruh i was shocked when i rode the deleated chapter my face was like ohhh HELL NAW
Will you be covering what happened to characters froRudy? Two alternative time lines. The bad time line and the one without rudy?
Yes, well, the bad timeline for sure - the ones without Rudy I can sort of cover but we only know bits and pieces about them.
Have you ever released audiobooks of your adult writing?
No, the system to publish audiobooks on Audible isn't available in the country I live in yet, and since my books are Amazon exclusive it's not really worth producing them if I can't put them on there... Eventually I may do it.
I'm going to be honest...your voice got me many many nights of sleep 😴.. yo go yr
Since both norn and aisha are fated to be born, i wonder what happened to paul in the other time loops
Please more videos on the light novel of mushoku tensai.
I definitely will make more!
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I think amazing growth for Ruijerd could be if his daughter is the reincarnation of Laplace since while he loves kids, he does also hate Laplace and even if he gets over it, it would still be interesting. Laplace could live as a woman and it would be interesting if Lucelia’s personality is lost or changed or combined. It could also just very well be Laplace is Ruijerd’s grandchild too from Lucelia. Not necessary to reincarnate in the same gender body
Perugius did say that Laplace would be reincarnated as a male with green hair though. I mean, it's possible Perugius is wrong, but given Luicelia is born in other loops Orsted has seen I don't think there's any way she's him.
@@NatalieXHunter right the high chance of being born in various loops even without Rudy present. It would make for interesting fan fiction or theories. But Lucelia could give birth to a male with green hair too. Unless it’s already known who and how
Given the only thing we know about her in the future is that in other loops, she helped Orsted fight Laplace, and was the last Superd, it seems like that won't be the case. She won't be the last Superd in this timeline, given the whole village are alive, but the fact she was implied she hadn't had children at the point where she was fighting Laplace.
@@NatalieXHunter ya remember the village and how Norn lives with him
I recognize and respect Mushoku Tensei for what it is and what it means as a series, though I personally don't like how the story progresses past a certain point and through certain parts. Nevermind all of that, I watch these videos because I love your voice and style of commenting; here's my like!
When he fully reunites with them after some events, I think this is when everyone will love Rudeus
I know I'm in the minority but I like Norn more than Aisha but I also like Sylphiette over roxy more as a love interest at the start but i prefer eris out of all his wife's but I want to marry Ghislaine because I have a soft spot for wolf girls if you can't tell from my name and I really i enjoy your video's thanks for making well researched video's and actually read/watching the stuff you talk about unlike most anitubers and so called critics like ann and anime feminist thanks great way to relax after wight training
Thank you! I also like Eris best (and I love Ghislaine), but I think people probably guessed from my love of Nagatoro and Priscilla that I like the feisty ones!
that look on paul's face
She doesn't think he is dodgy, she thinks he is a pervert.
I’m confused what LN does that Norn illustration come from?
Aisha is adorable
Comedy between Aisha & Rudy is funny
Honestly I appreciate the effort but I genuinely think that any video we choose to click on means that we don't mind spoilers
Spoiler:
11:15 orsted?
Where can i download redundunduncy??
it upset me how aisha was neglected and lead to think to little about her self and the fact that her brother did nothing to help her out of this toxic mindset that her mother implanted in her,, ,, she has tooo much potential if she actually got a good education there is no say how far she well accomplish
He did try to tell her, literally in today's new episode he tells her. But he just never saw quite how badly it had messed her up, I think. People can't always know what is in someone else's head. It is shown though that he never saw Lilia and Aisha as lesser than Zenith and Norn - maybe you haven't seen the new ep yet though, it's only been out for a few hours.
@@NatalieXHunter yeah, i've just finished watching it minutes before, , and he seems unaware to his sister situation but he really love them both equally,,, i don't see that as a bad thing, it gives me more realisticly writing cause we see these kind of situation (in different context tho but the same idea in real life).
can you do a video for Hitogami?
I am sure I will at some point - I think it'll be soon, actually.
lmaooo, the way she said she has a bunch of simps lmao
They get married. Seriouly no surprise there. Thats like the biggest trope there is.
I've watched this channel for about 1 week now and I still don't know if your voice is a real voice or a text to speech voice
LOL it's my real voice! Though on this video I have a bit of a cold so it might be a giveaway... I've had people say that before though, I guess I just naturally sound like a satnav or something!
My eye twitched when you said that norn married ruijerd.
Well, she is in her twenties when it happens, to clear that up a bit.
Will you make a video about the true best girl dragon god orsted
Absolutely, but I plan to do it when he first appears in the anime so anime onlies who are curious and want to be spoiled about him can watch it too... Next one of these character videos will be about Hitogami...
a new video!
*Spoilers*
Was Norn the writer of Rudy's encyclopedia? At the end of the series (genuine question)
No, unless I'm remembering it wrong. She wrote biographies of some of the characters though.
The one who wrote the encyclopedia was someone else, around 100 or 200 years after the events of the story, but he mentions that he got information from the books Norn wrote.
The one who wrote the encyclopedia is one of the descendants of one of the maids Ariel brought to sharia.
@@lolphie8493 So, did Ariel command that they would write an encyclopedia for Rudy?
@@caleb_artzs2533 No, iirc the encyclopedia was written 60-80 years after the last volume, at that point Ariel is long dead. It was written to demistify Rudues's name as it's slowly lose from the minds of the masses, as he helped on many projects made by other prominent personages of his time, he's achievements are often times confuse from the others, especially in his later years,thus there are people branding his name as claiming other achievements for his own, the encyclopedia is made to clarify what he did and did not do, although meta-wise us readers know there are some falsehoods mixed in in that book
OK so just a little curious, what makes you so certain that there will be a sequel series Natalie? Does the author say that anywhere or does the story just have that much left that it shouldn’t have a sequel series?
It has always been the plan AFAIK (it's written in such a way that it is obvious from very early on that the main story will extend beyond Rudeus' lifetime, due to when Laplace is due to reincarnate, but Mushoku Tensei is Rudeus' story). I don't really keep up with the author's QnA's, but most people believe he'll start on the sequel once his other series Orc Eroica is finished and the last Japanese LN of MT is out, so it could be as early as this year. He has already written the prequel in web novel form, Old Dragon's Tale (I have a series reading it out on my channel), and that also sets up events that would happen after Rudeus' death (where Laplace is the main character and Hitogami is the antagonist).
@@NatalieXHunter oh okay I’m up to speed now thanks. I listened to old dragons tale, and Jobless Oblige from ur readings. Love your accent! (I’m American)
Hey what’s up; I have something interesting to bring up.. I was listening to the light novel again. Where Rudeus reads the diary of Future Person... There’s a part in there that had me thinking. In the future person timeline. Do you think Eris sold herself to Minister Darius. To keep Rudeus safe. So the Azura Kingdom wouldn’t go after Rudeus for the burning incident and hand him over to Milis? Where that person was hung on a stake and rocks thrown at her. Rudeus burnt everything around. Or would that be to dark? He says “The Azura Kingdom. Are real idiots, not putting 2 and 2 together.”
Personally, I don’t think they’re idiots.. Thought, he must have a person of high authority sticking up for him. It has to be Darius or someone from the magic academy. Also, it mentions in volume. How dense Rudeus is, a couple of times. Idk I was just curious on your input. Thanks for the videos.
Aisha always one upping her sister, Norn gets a fan club so Aisha gets her own private army smh.
I'm curios what Aisha would have done with her life if Rudeus wasn't reincarnated in this world.
Weird enough, the president never actually mentions Lillia or Aisha from previous loops. It might be that she is never born in the regular timeline.
@@serunderscore Iirc it was mentioned that Aisha became a magic researcher in the non-Rudeus timelines
i always imagined she still ended up marrying Ars, who are born from Eris & Luke
@@Ladiusmann wait when? What chapter?
I’m kind of sad Norn turned out to be a stick in the mud,
Still I am happy they were able to follow their own paths and find happiness.
What happens to Ghislaine after the main story? Does she ever go beyond being a Sword King?
It's never said.
@@NatalieXHunter That makes me sad...everyone else gets a "story after the story" But not the Black Wolf? Really sad right now...
The latest thing I remember being said is that she keeps working for Ariel Anemoi Asura.
Is the novel/manga, named the same as the anime?
Yes.
Hey Natalie!
what should i read? LN or WN?
The LN up until you run out of English translations /currently volume 23), then switch to the WN to finish it. That's what most people do.
I’m kind of sad Norn turned out to be a stick in the mud,
Is this in the light novel because I can't find character 77 of the manga so this must be a light novel right
Only the web novel is actually finished so the later stuff is all from that.
@@NatalieXHunter thanks appreciate it
thank you sweety
Welcome 😊
Why be scared of Superds when you’re scared of your brother lol
They end up having the 2 most problematic relationships of the series…
They're still ok
Norns marriage is pretty interesting, as well as aisha. I am a huge fan of age gap relationship stories, although they need to be legal.
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Yay, I get to be a grammar Nazi. Rudeus's sisters not Rudeus' sisters. The second is used to show plural possessive, not the possessive of a name ending in 's.' Unless we are talking about the sisters of two characters both named Rudeu. Don't feel too bad, I've seen the British press do the same with Prince Charles in the past. OK, rant over :)
I always thought it was always correct to just stick the apostrophe after a noun ending in S as a possessive, and it was just a matter of preference whether you did it the was you say (and I think it looks less messy this way, especially on a thumbnail when it's all in caps), but honestly, I can't be bothered to check, lol - it's funny because my real last name ends in S (Natalie Hunter is a pen name) and I've always written the possessive this way when talking about stuff that is mine, so if you're right and the second S isn't optional then I've been getting it wrong a loooot of times. I think it just looks a bit rubbish though (which doesn't mean it's not correct of course). Like, especially if a word ends in a double S... Like, would you really say 'the business's end of year report' or 'the princess's dress'?
@@NatalieXHunter heh he, I'm not faulting you. I have spent that last 2 years working on my writing-apply to law school-and little things like this just jump out at me now, can't help it. I've been trained to spot details, lol.
Personally I think little nit picky items like this can be easily excused in common usage. Just remember it for formal occasions, like wedding invitation, birth announcements, and the like. I find it more agregious when professional publications commit small errors. I also agree with you choice to error for aesthetic purposes, even if the choice isn't technically correct.
I was literally a professional novelist before I started this channel, so, I do kinda care about getting things like that right... But you're the first person that has ever noticed (or I guess, maybe that's just what editors are for...). And LOL, what is a birth announcement? Don't people just tweet that kind of thing these days? Not that I ever plan to be making one anyway haha!
Bruh the aisha story is weird af
deym I love this series because even the side characters have great character development. It is as if they were protagonists of their own stories
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Channel_ Natalie XHunter, and like-wise, are great for giving insight and dynamic awareness of any given anime.
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Aisha: Bruh
Your voice sounds soooo formal. The avi should be a business woman or librarian. 😹
Well, I know I sound like a BBC newsreader, but I also like wearing cute outfits!
I've watched a few of your videos and to be honest, if you can't tell the story with spoilers then either give a spoiler warning or don't bother. Fact is, most who would watch these types of videos don't care about spoilers. If you are anime only and looking these up you want to know the full story. Also, the whole "I won't go into this because I did another video on it" ok then don't drop the title as if you are going into it.
Something i never got was how did norn get more popular at the academy than aisha
Aisha didn't go to the academy...
She never went to the school…
Guess my memories hazy i feel like aisha also went the magic academy
@@rhyssuy8361 She was smart enough not to go she made a deal with rudeus to become a house maid if she passed her entrance exam which she did
My respect with Aisha just drops. Like she was such a sharp girl she could have become so much more than just some maid.
She does become more than a maid, she runs a worldwide mercenary company...
@@NatalieXHunter nah man she becomes a Ara Ara aunt that seduces her nephew.
Well, she becomes both of those things haha
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is that so. Personally wishes that she was a bit more out going n not restrain herself to being a damn maid. Like go to school with Norn. She would more likely find a bf not family related and a group of friends that way
She literally doesn't stay just as a maid though - it's in the video. She ends up starting a mercenary company and is really successful at it.
I want a familly reunion at the very, very end of the series. It would be insane to see Zenith, Lilia, Rudues, Eris, Roxy, Sylphi, Norm and Ruijerd and their kid, and Rudues's six children with their spouse. I think it would be great to have them all in one place to celebrate at the end of the story because I think in the novel, they're all around the world doing their own thing.
Why there is no subtitles?
I don't know - CZcams should put them on automatically, I thought?
I'm an anime only and i really want to see more of Rudeus and his Sisters interaction
rudias marriage is normal but that is where it ends
Can't wait for the bro-con sister to appear in the anime
It'll be next episode I think!
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i am an asian myself and if i get reincarnated man i won't miss rice at all. I eat that crap everyday and it's been boring
LOL I'm British and I've lived in Italy for years, and people sometimes ask me if I miss British food and I'm always like, noooo, so I totally get where you're coming from with not relating to Rudy wanting his rice!
would have been nice if aisha went full gear being a brocon 😂😂😂😂
This feels like as if Queen Elizabeth became a weeb youtuber
LOL I'm quite a lot younger than the queen!
@@NatalieXHunter haha, what I mean is that your voice feel like Royalty.
Thank you! Most people say I sound like text to speech software so I'm taking royalty as a compliment!
Norn: Ruijerd!
Aisha: Ara ara!
I dont really mind spoiler
Isn't Ruijerd kinda...old for Norn?
Well, he's 500 or so and she's in her twenties when they get married, but in a setting with long lived races it would be weird to make that matter - Elinalise is technically thousands of years old but she marries a human too. Normally with long lived races in fantasy settings it's kinda like, you have to either ignore the age gaps or you can never have any elf or whatever get together with any human.
@@NatalieXHunter Yeah I get that. It's just kinda weird because he was like a straight up adult caring for her child self. Feels groomy but I know ruijerd wasn't like seducing her when she was a child lmao. Just feels a little icky but w/e
Well, Ruijerd is probably the character you can trust the most around kids of anybody haha! I think it was more that Norn went from idolizing him as a child to falling in love with him. In other loops Orsted lived through they didn't meet until she was an adult adventurer, and they still always ended up getting married, so there's probably a thing that they are really compatible and fated to be together, but in this loop because of Rudeus he met her as a child instead of only knowing her as an adult. The fact they'd end up together even without meeting when she was a kid kinda makes it seem less groomy iykwim.
@@NatalieXHunter Yea i gotchu
rudy grandma is not a bad person
She did traumatized for life 2 little girls for no real reason..... So the score is not on her favor