A Well-Travelled Book - Objectivity 257

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  • čas přidán 11. 05. 2022
  • Elizabeth Lawrence, Rare Books Librarian at the University of Edinburgh’s Centre for Research Collections, shows Brady her favourite 'shaggy dog story'... More links below ↓↓↓
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Komentáře • 50

  • @JoletteRoodt
    @JoletteRoodt Před 2 lety +63

    Elizabeth's unashamed geek-out is such a validation for all of us who get excited over (seemingly) small things in our field 🙌

    • @Kabup2
      @Kabup2 Před 2 lety +3

      She's amazing, I love people like her.

    • @backwashjoe7864
      @backwashjoe7864 Před 2 lety +2

      That was so adorable, and I can totally relate! :)

    • @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
      @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 Před 2 lety +3

      The ultimate goal of academia is to become such an expert in a topic you're the only one geeking out about something that you get to teach everyone else about.

  • @lebesnec
    @lebesnec Před 2 lety +36

    "it's a small mistake, everyone will forget about it"
    170 years later:

  • @lahollander
    @lahollander Před 2 lety +20

    It's fascinating how much we can learn from a seemingly simple mistake as a misprint.

  • @scrochum
    @scrochum Před 2 lety +27

    we know what needs to happen now, Brady needs to go to the Californian historical society to see the diary

    • @lo1bo2
      @lo1bo2 Před 2 lety

      Perhaps "borrow" the diary?

    • @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
      @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 Před 2 lety +1

      He's got to pull a CGP Grey and take a journey just to fact-check something.

  • @me_and_my_piper739
    @me_and_my_piper739 Před 2 lety +16

    Love these videos. I wish they were more frequent. I always enjoy them and learn a lot along the way. Thank you! 👍🏻

  • @matthewb3113
    @matthewb3113 Před 2 lety +2

    How wonderful that this book has been preserved to reveal so much interesting history. Thanks for the video again. Love Objectivity.

  • @Philrc
    @Philrc Před 2 lety +3

    Hurray! An Objectivity video!!

  • @aimanapril24
    @aimanapril24 Před 2 lety +6

    absolutely love her enthusiasm !

  • @AaronOfMpls
    @AaronOfMpls Před 2 lety +2

    Regarding the copyright issue: some British authors (like Dickens) got around the problem by publishing their later books in the US first, shortly _before_ their UK publication. Though the US did eventually sign international copyright treaties in the 1880s.
    A cool find 😎-- and now I'm tempted to find a corrected version of that chapter!

  • @christophermclaughlin8899

    Poor Darwin, his work made a mess by sloppy printers but still, what a nice story! I have a copy of Darwin’s The Effects of Cross and Self Fertilisation in the Vegetable Kingdom that is stamped U.S. Com’n of Fish and Fisheries, Dec. 27 1883, Steamer Albatross, which I think did research in the Philippines. Neat to think that it was aboard a research vessel over 135 years ago. Another stamp says Library Jun 1- 1925 Fisheries, so they kept it around a good while.

  • @wtspman
    @wtspman Před 2 lety +4

    Great video. You could probably do a miniseries on this book. From what I remember, the book was commissioned by Adm Francis Beaufort. It was valuable for helping to standardize methods of data collection for people who hadn’t been trained in science. It was also valuable for describing how to do science on a ship.

    • @wtspman
      @wtspman Před 2 lety

      You could even do a video (or a few) on Beaufort, himself.

  • @praveenb9048
    @praveenb9048 Před 2 lety +8

    I read the other day that the Moroccan ambassador to the court of Charles II was made a fellow of the Royal Society. May I suggest an episode about items / documents related to that event.

  • @RenshawYT
    @RenshawYT Před 2 lety +3

    Chatting about the evolution of a book with errors in a chapter by Darwin. Nicely done!

  • @peterkelley6344
    @peterkelley6344 Před 2 lety +1

    An amazing story out of history. Someone ought to write a book about these moments in history to preserve what the history really was.

  • @kitty_gamer23
    @kitty_gamer23 Před 2 lety +1

    if it had been printed correctly it would just be another old book, but interesting things happened and that makes this copy pretty special

  • @blindleader42
    @blindleader42 Před 2 lety +1

    Just as she said at 8:05, It's a fantastic story.

  • @collinscody57
    @collinscody57 Před 2 lety +3

    I always find it interesting how random people from history will be remembered because of a mistake or screw up.

  • @cernejr
    @cernejr Před 2 lety

    Great story.

  • @Wrackey
    @Wrackey Před 2 lety +2

    Great video! Title doesn't do it justice 😅

  • @shadowdancenz
    @shadowdancenz Před 2 lety

    I have had 3 books that were misprinted. (Chapters missing with other chapters duplicated). It happened to the complete Sherlock Holmes book I had years ago, a cross stitch pattern book, and also a fitness book exercises for sporting injuries. So yep, still happens :)

  • @paulnicholas4184
    @paulnicholas4184 Před 2 lety

    This is my second viewing of this episode and I'm still discovering wee gems of 'fantastic history' within! :-)

  • @daniochoa2110
    @daniochoa2110 Před 2 lety

    Defenetely my favorite episode.

  • @lwaldron9745
    @lwaldron9745 Před rokem

    I owned a hardback copy of Mary Renault's novel "Mask of Apollo" with a very similar printing error.

  • @allenyordy6700
    @allenyordy6700 Před 2 lety +2

    Please oh please Brady can you get some more time with the professors I do miss some sixty symbols thank you for the incredible work none the less your a magnificent human and I just enjoy all of your content

    • @Yezpahr
      @Yezpahr Před rokem

      I second this notion. All of it.

  • @heaslyben
    @heaslyben Před 2 lety

    Wonderful! Thank you again.

  • @bigguix
    @bigguix Před 2 lety +1

    so cool !

  • @iseriver3982
    @iseriver3982 Před 2 lety

    I bet Richard Owen was pleased it was darwins chapter that got messed up.
    He who laughs last laughs hardest.

  • @TheOwlman
    @TheOwlman Před 2 lety +4

    This is why I always proffred my comments.

  • @PopeLando
    @PopeLando Před 2 lety +1

    4:41 Was it owned by the Artist Formerly Known As Prince?

  • @SaugotChowdhury
    @SaugotChowdhury Před rokem

    Good to see Richard owen name there as a biologist 😁

  • @rjung_ch
    @rjung_ch Před 2 lety

    Great story

  • @robnorris4770
    @robnorris4770 Před 2 lety

    A real ‘49er.

  • @oliverlane9716
    @oliverlane9716 Před rokem

    I like to think in some alternative universe Wallace was credited with the theory of evolution whilst Darwin was just some obscure geologist only known for some unfortunate misprint.

  • @mcol3
    @mcol3 Před 2 lety

    I saw that wooden furniture, and I immediately said University of Edinbugh Library.

  • @bigsarge2085
    @bigsarge2085 Před 2 lety +1

    Interesting!

  • @johnopalko5223
    @johnopalko5223 Před 2 lety +1

    Unfortunately, proofreading is sometimes more effective _after_ publication.

  • @BillMSmith
    @BillMSmith Před 2 lety +5

    Delightful story, well delivered. I must say, I'm skeptical on parts of the story. I'm thinking the publisher just said "I'll show those Americans. Maybe now they'll stop stealing out copyrighted stuff."

    • @HermanVonPetri
      @HermanVonPetri Před 2 lety +2

      It's not unheard of for publishers to put deliberate mistakes into different copies of their works in order to track down who is stealing them. It's a tried and true method of exposing leakers and copyright infringers. Although, I doubt that's what was happening here because the publisher had no legal recourse at the time.
      It's also a method of establishing copyright of "unique" content for otherwise public domain information. Map makers, for example, are known to put "paper towns" into their maps that don't really exist in order to prove that they are the original copyright holder.

  • @AndyLundell
    @AndyLundell Před 2 lety

    Anyone trying to copy the book would have noticed the mistake. I wonder if any unauthorized American publishers were able to get a descrambled version on the market before the corrected version made it across legitimately.

  • @ohareport
    @ohareport Před 2 lety

    most book printers binned off their QA departments after the global financial crisis and haven’t looked back. the incidence of misbound pages, out of order chapters and portions of books interjected into others is very high and they just dgaf.

  • @AndyLundell
    @AndyLundell Před 2 lety

    This probably was not a cheap book. I'd be pretty irritated if I paid good money for a book like this and an entire chapter was unusable.
    Even having the reprinted chapter as an enclosure would be pretty annoying.