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  • čas přidán 14. 08. 2024
  • The Mizuno Wave Rebellion Flash combines Enerzy Lite and Enerzy foams with a glass fiber reinforced plastic plate to create a shoe that looks great on paper. It’s a fast shoe. It’s better than last year’s shoe. But I still am not sure it’s the shoe for me.
    0:00 intro
    0:38 Disclosures
    0:57 Specs
    7:55 What’s It Like
    10:54 Summary
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Komentáře • 91

  • @danielament404
    @danielament404 Před rokem +45

    Glass fiber reinforced plastics typically means that small glass fibers are mixed into the molten plastic (probably Nylon) and then injection molded into the final shape. The GF gives more strength and rigidity to the plastic. Fiber glass is a weave of glass fiber that is sprayed with a thermosetting resin. The former is much cheaper to make.

    • @kofuzi
      @kofuzi  Před rokem +7

      Ah, thanks! This is what I needed

    • @smellysam
      @smellysam Před rokem +2

      It is also the main difference between cheap electric tools that break when dropped and more expensive tools that don't. The price of the injected materials is nearly the same, however, glass, or carbon (a la Puma) , fillers demand more abrasion resistant moulds, that still wear out faster than just plain alloy moulds using plain plastics with basic fillers..

    • @smellysam
      @smellysam Před rokem +1

      @@user-a5ndj7u6xahgj5wj for me, it just mean the filler is fibre (1mm long or shorter), not mini balls or powder that are cheaper but give mechanically inferior result.

  • @briannee9693
    @briannee9693 Před rokem +46

    Looks like Mizuno is really stepping up their lawn mowing shoe game.

    • @raybaumgardner
      @raybaumgardner Před rokem +3

      Laughed too hard at this

    • @TolunayOrkun
      @TolunayOrkun Před rokem +6

      Kofuzi did not get along with Wave Rebellion Flash but another reviewer won a HM race in them. Different shoes for different styles of running.

    • @briannee9693
      @briannee9693 Před rokem +3

      @@TolunayOrkun Just making a joke. Totally agree. That's why there are so many options out there!

    • @TolunayOrkun
      @TolunayOrkun Před rokem +1

      @@briannee9693 sorry, I misunderstood.

    • @anihan8217
      @anihan8217 Před rokem +1

      The shoe as stated by Mizuno is intended as racing shoe, forefoot strike. Different brands have many line up shoes with different target runners, running style, pace, etc

  • @HyGHERPOWERLIFESTyLE
    @HyGHERPOWERLIFESTyLE Před rokem +3

    I just done a review on these shoes as well. I really like how they perform. You are spot on with a lot of the information you provided. All in all The Flash is definitely an improvement to the original Rebellion. Great review! 🏁

  • @Elmo6855
    @Elmo6855 Před rokem +3

    The outtake at the end....classic Kofuzi!

  • @Sabundy
    @Sabundy Před rokem +8

    They certainly look great if nothing else.

  • @Daniel-bi5ci
    @Daniel-bi5ci Před rokem +5

    2:51 this is actually an enerzy core footage. It’s different than enerzy. The former is rubber based, softier, more resilliant and heavier. The last is a standard EVA foam.

    • @kofuzi
      @kofuzi  Před rokem +2

      thank you for the clarification

  • @steveflor9942
    @steveflor9942 Před rokem +3

    That rebound display at the Mizuno booth. Enerzy next to EVA ...
    Cool !!!

  • @therunophil
    @therunophil Před rokem +2

    while your review not exactly sparked interest in that shoe for me (I prefer softer rides) I love how you compare and pair to other shoes, this made the Superblast review the best one for that shoe on CZcams for me and I find it really helps better understand the shoes than a plain review of the shoe only!

    • @kofuzi
      @kofuzi  Před rokem +1

      I'm glad that is helpful!

  • @wilfredo-teyrosalesfotos

    Despite the execution not being there yet, I’m pulling for them to become a better shoe. I know the quality and ingenuity is there having used their products in past( playing baseball in high school and college), trial and error and listening to feedback will be their success in the future

  • @cchungy
    @cchungy Před rokem +3

    Haven’t taken it on the track yet… but it feels promising for some track workouts.

  • @Chungdol
    @Chungdol Před rokem +4

    Nice to see some Mizunos on your channel! My last pair of Mizuno the Wave Shadow 4 went kinda below the radar. Endet up as a steetshoe for me because... it was too much of everything. Since that I stepped a away from this actually very great brand.

  • @thomasharner92
    @thomasharner92 Před rokem +1

    I got the original Rebellion for $60 after watching your detailed review on it (which was great btw) - the rocker does feel so aggressive to the point that the shoe only really feels "good" at higher tempo/paces for me. When I push everything seems to align better like you were describing and it's one of my favorite shoes I've ever worn, but when getting warmed up or on recovery days not so much. Definitely an interesting shoe though and enjoy having it in the rotation.

    • @kofuzi
      @kofuzi  Před rokem

      glad you're enjoying it!

  • @motivationtheoryrunning
    @motivationtheoryrunning Před rokem +8

    I am really enjoying this shoe btw, great review. I am a heavier runner than you, so maybe I feel the rebound a bit more at lower speeds.

    • @jozefberes250
      @jozefberes250 Před rokem

      Exactly what I tought as a havier runner. How do you use them for what specific runs? Thanks

  • @ramblingrunner2172
    @ramblingrunner2172 Před rokem +5

    Oh man, I know one thing - it’s beautiful.

    • @kofuzi
      @kofuzi  Před rokem

      I wish they would have sent the Kanji inspired version

  • @okcoolmax
    @okcoolmax Před rokem +2

    The looks are pure 🔥

  • @MiracleWarriors
    @MiracleWarriors Před rokem +3

    I still got my Mizuno Wave Rebellion that looks like new even near 200 miles ran so far. I don't think any plated shoe will last this long ,especially on the grip department.

  • @pisderata
    @pisderata Před rokem +2

    what always stand up to me is the sport shape like idk they look like a football/volley/handball boot

  • @jansmith8909
    @jansmith8909 Před rokem

    This is a shoe for old school racing flat fans (circa 90s early 2000s). Race day and fast session shoe as you state, good review, not for everyone. I love it as have a track background and loved the Hitogami

    • @GriffRunning
      @GriffRunning Před rokem

      I wish they’d bring back the hitogami

  • @toxakabz3653
    @toxakabz3653 Před rokem +1

    I waiting for your full review about Mizuno wave rider 26, very interesting your opinion! )))

  • @muhammadkhairul3621
    @muhammadkhairul3621 Před rokem +2

    Many technical word here haha but anyway great review as always...intrigued to test Mizuno this year

  • @wojciechbladowski542
    @wojciechbladowski542 Před rokem

    You named your experience as confusing, though I bet Mizuno had kofuzing experience with the runner :D Poor joke, but couldn't help myself :) Great review!

  • @antonioromulodelcarmen283

    Wow… that breakthrough stability plate for Mizuno for 2023, sounds like an Adidas Torsion system/Asics Trusstic system which have been out there for a decade. Woohoo. 😏🥴 Hahaha! Good looking shoes though.

  • @TolunayOrkun
    @TolunayOrkun Před rokem +3

    Mike, too bad it didn't work for you. I think this is being positioned as a tempo training shoe vs Wave Rebellion Pro. Another YT reviewer in Florida won a HM race in these shoes. It is probably not a shoe to run slow like you said.

  • @kawagonzo6951
    @kawagonzo6951 Před rokem +1

    how's the fit? I heard that they run large

  • @BenzoDJ
    @BenzoDJ Před rokem +2

    Great review! 5:25 I immediately thought of the Metaspeed Edge+... Fast forward to 11:44 😮 Talk about paying attention in class LOL
    Was price point mentioned? I'll rewatch, maybe I missed it. Lastly, I owned a pair of Wave Enigma's a long time ago, but I found them too stiff. Then again, what do I know? I was new to running back then.

    • @kofuzi
      @kofuzi  Před rokem +3

      I forgot to mention price. $160 in the US. Last year’s Wave Rebellion was $180, but its now a significant discount

    • @BenzoDJ
      @BenzoDJ Před rokem +1

      @@kofuzi thank you sir

    • @prwnrdy
      @prwnrdy Před rokem +1

      @@kofuzido you also have the release date?

  • @workouteveryday
    @workouteveryday Před rokem +1

    Wow Mizunoooooo....I am very very very like😍

  • @Sharkster_J
    @Sharkster_J Před rokem +4

    I’m surprised you compared the flash to the metaspeed edge+ instead of the magic speed 2 since that’s ASICS’ tempo training companion. How do you feel the flash and magic speed compare?

    • @kofuzi
      @kofuzi  Před rokem +3

      To address your preface: The plate composition and position in the Edge Plus and Rebellion Flash make them feel more similar. But I’m not trying to provide an exhaustive list of shoes that are similar.
      To address your question: the Flash feels like it has a racing foam in it (even if the plate muddles everything). The Magic Speed does not. It’s a very good foam, but not a racing foam.

    • @Sharkster_J
      @Sharkster_J Před rokem +1

      @@kofuzi Thanks for the response! I’m currently using the endorphin speed 3 for my workouts, but find I want a firmer, snappier toe off during my shorter intervals and so I’m eyeing the magic speed 2 and flash as possible replacements once I’ve retired my speeds. Do you feel that the better foam in the flash makes it a better workout shoe, or does the magic speed deliver a more cohesive ride?

  • @felixyu755
    @felixyu755 Před rokem +1

    Random question: how do you style your hair? Any product or comb it back?

    • @kofuzi
      @kofuzi  Před rokem

      I will comb it if I remember

  • @vincec3773
    @vincec3773 Před rokem

    with a title that perfect you dont really need a video

    • @vincec3773
      @vincec3773 Před rokem

      the video was just as perfect as the title

    • @kofuzi
      @kofuzi  Před rokem +2

      Hahaha! This comment and the follow up 🤌

  • @markhill8590
    @markhill8590 Před rokem

    These shoes are outstanding did a 1:28 half marathon in them no issue at all.....they are just a outstanding shoe

    • @kofuzi
      @kofuzi  Před rokem

      happy to hear that!

    • @Halfnakedrunner
      @Halfnakedrunner Před rokem +3

      I made HM 1.16 in them, perfect shoe))

    • @markhill8590
      @markhill8590 Před rokem

      @@Halfnakedrunner that's an epic time, I've just purchased a pair off Adidas Adizero Adios Pro 3's got them for £138 pounds and they are a fantastic shoes.

  • @wedgythewedges5489
    @wedgythewedges5489 Před rokem +2

    i got a question, what shoe is softest and comfortable to you in your opinion?

    • @Notnotcam
      @Notnotcam Před rokem

      Soft: supercomp SC trainer, Nike invincible, prime X, fresh foam more v4, gel nimbus 25

    • @wedgythewedges5489
      @wedgythewedges5489 Před rokem

      @@Notnotcam Hey thx for the info! any idea about all those shoes durability? which will last a little longer?

    • @Notnotcam
      @Notnotcam Před rokem

      @@wedgythewedges5489 tough call because everyone wears shoes differently. I’d say the ones that have the shot for the most durability within my current collection on that list would be the prime X, the more v4, and the Nimbus 25

  • @mikew9514
    @mikew9514 Před rokem +1

    Mizuno and ASICS make shoes with great looks to me. But ASICS seems not making these lookings, sad😢

    • @kofuzi
      @kofuzi  Před rokem

      That’s interesting. I feel the opposite

  • @ryukyungmok
    @ryukyungmok Před rokem +1

    It looks like latest wave aero

  • @AlbertoBerardi
    @AlbertoBerardi Před rokem +1

    Mizuno is stubborn with trying to keep is "wave" alive more than Asics with is "gel". Mizuno definitely needs a novablast kind of model, in wich he gives up some of his identity in exchange for a breath of fresh air.

    • @kofuzi
      @kofuzi  Před rokem

      They certainly have a business model that they can follow

    • @AlbertoBerardi
      @AlbertoBerardi Před rokem

      @@kofuzi your answer sounds quite laconic. Every brand has a business model. But I bet none of them has "stay behind other brands in terms of innovation" as a KPI. Maybe Mizuno will start to get back on track with the Wave Rebellion Pro, even if it is not a shoe for the majority of amateur.

    • @GriffRunning
      @GriffRunning Před rokem

      @@AlbertoBerardi1000s of runners swear by their wave. It would be stupid to remove it. Look at the people who loved the nimbus 24 and now hate the 25.

    • @paulnorman8274
      @paulnorman8274 Před 11 měsíci

      @@AlbertoBerardi 737s have been great planes since forever. The backbone of aviation everywhere. Then came the new-new 737 Max, whose KPI was falling down all the time.....
      Foams break down rather quickly from repeated deformation. The more they re forced to deform, the quicker, and more severely they break down. Sticking a hard plastic wave in there, which spreads the load out across much more foam that your sharpish heel, distributes the load across much more of the foam. Letting the foam wear more evenly, instead of all wearing down in exactly the places your particular anatomy loads the most; which is exactly where you would NOT want it to break down.
      Nike's airbags, Asiacs' gel inserts and Saucony's old tennis racket accomplish(ed) sort of the same. Just less comprehensively and well. The Wave has so many degrees of freedom wrt adjusting for support and ride, that Mizuno have no reason to walk away from it. Ditching it, may allow for a bit more initial softness out of the newshoebox; but degradation over time will be much higher, for all but the lightest and smoothest of 1% long distance runners (who may well wear out the outsole before meaningfully breaking down the foam)

  • @brokenfreddy7676
    @brokenfreddy7676 Před rokem +1

    Very good looking shoe..unfortunately it's just another Mizuno brick..I really don't understand why everyone wants to put some kind of plastic trash in their midsoles..it adds wt and doesn't let your feet work..throw away the gimmicks and work on a better foam and better upper fit..I'm waiting for someone to make a midsole that has a progressively compression midsole that is soft on top but gradually gets stiffer as you run without bottoming out..the alphafly is the only shoe I've ever raced in that kinda tries to do that..some day we might get a midsole made of a number of slices of foam that are each a different durometer of stiffness..the dual density midsoles don't work for me..I would venture that 4-6 layers and no trash in between might do the job..then maybe we can have shoes that are tuned to each runners wt and bio-mechics..but what would they market to you as the new thing for this years model?? I will allow that Mizuno makes 1 of the most durable shoes out there..even if it rides like a lumber wagon..

    • @TolunayOrkun
      @TolunayOrkun Před rokem

      It didn't suit Kofuzi bur it is hardly a brick. Another reviewer won a HM race in Florida in these.

  • @LuisBecerra79
    @LuisBecerra79 Před rokem

    Yo, what’s going on!!! I don’t think I have ever seen a Mizuno shoe in Tijuana 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @OrientistaemRota
    @OrientistaemRota Před rokem

    I think Mizuno is on the right way. But still need some improvements to beat the other brands in terms of speed and running feellings. In Brazil, we find rebellion from about US$80,00.

    • @kofuzi
      @kofuzi  Před rokem +1

      I know there are some people who love Mizuno as it is right now, but personally, I'd love to see some updates

    • @paulnorman8274
      @paulnorman8274 Před 11 měsíci

      @@kofuzi Bulk up, dude! And stop reviewing brand new shoes all the time :) 40-50 added pounds, 300 miles into a shoe's lifetime, and you'll see the light......

  • @prwnrdy
    @prwnrdy Před rokem +1

    Does anybody know the pricepoint and the release date?

    • @kofuzi
      @kofuzi  Před rokem +1

      $160. It's already available online in the U.S.

    • @prwnrdy
      @prwnrdy Před rokem

      @@kofuzi thanks! I’m in Canada I guess that’s why I didn’t saw it on the website!

  • @coco3085
    @coco3085 Před rokem

    Wonder if this would work good for xc

    • @kofuzi
      @kofuzi  Před rokem

      I think so, if you’re running on some softer yet flat surfaces

  • @HERNANDEZGARAY11
    @HERNANDEZGARAY11 Před rokem

    Need colors 🎉🎉🎉

  • @user-nh3dv9mu7r
    @user-nh3dv9mu7r Před rokem

    👍👍👍

  • @ThomasLaang
    @ThomasLaang Před rokem +1

    The Mizuno Wave Rebellion was by far the worst shoe I have ever run in. Amazing they haven't made more updates for this year.

  • @adelineng7883
    @adelineng7883 Před rokem

    Are these comparable to the Asics Metaracer?

    • @kofuzi
      @kofuzi  Před rokem

      same class, but they feel quite different

  • @francescobroggini7657

    Mizuno can't resist on making firm shoes, despite what everyone else is doing.

    • @paulnorman8274
      @paulnorman8274 Před 11 měsíci

      Softer foams simply break down too fast. At least unless the loads experienced by those soft foams, are spread out over a wider area by plates, "waves" etc.

  • @sunjoy1010
    @sunjoy1010 Před rokem +2

    Sum-up: confusing shoes

  • @Silverwood085
    @Silverwood085 Před rokem

    cough n spit damn winter

  • @seanwise7464
    @seanwise7464 Před rokem +1

    You said “plastic member”. Huh huh.
    ….My humor never matured beyond the 8th grade level.