OCD Distorts How You Relate to Faith
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- Obsessive-compulsive struggles distort how we see our faith journey. I address a question about someone who has become obsessive over the subject of faith.
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Basically I'm realizing that we need to finally come to the end of ourselves. I have ptsd and it is so hard to let go and just trust in God. But until I surrender completely the anxiety, panic, nightmares etc will continue. Hopefully I don't have to hit rock-bottom again. I REALLY don't want to have to go through that just to learn my lessons.
I’m sorry tony what your going through I was religiously abused have bad ptsd so I’m struggling with this as well trust I so agree it’s hard to trust with ptsd and for me it makes me feel distant from god it’s a everyday struggle I wish you the best😊
I don’t think you can let go and Trust God..until you Know Who He is. He Loves Us Unconditionally..and is always There to Help You. I was programed badly with the punishing condemning God..which a lot of people are. As you read the Bible be sure to ask God to Help you. He will show you Who He is. With God You are Always Safe and Free and Loved! You can live in Peace. 😇💕
@@kathleenwharton2139 thank you for responding you are right and I have memory damage from vaccine so I can’t memorize anything or remember what I read in the Bible so I’m struggling ❤️
@@muskee1
I understand. So Does God! Don’t worry about the things you are worrying about! Just remember God Loves You with unconditional Love. God is Love and Jesus is the Prince of Peace. I just Thank Jesus for Love and Peace and leave the rest to Him! If you can’t read a lot..just read the Sermon on the Mount. Especially Matthew chapters 6 and 7. Jesus tells us how God Loves us and that He will Give us everything we need. If He takes care of the lilies and the sparrows..How much More is He going to Take care of You! Just BELIEVE God Loves You! And Be in Peace. May God Bless You! 😇🙏❤️
Oh you too? Me too! I'm a ptsd person.
Revelation does not come by obsessing but through getting back to the awareness of His love and grace for us. Man do I need to hear that constantly!
I was spiraling tonight when I set a timer for ten minutes and sat in silence and invited God to speak to me and I felt like he wasn’t and I was panicking because I thought I didn’t have enough faith that’s why God doesn’t speak to me like he does other people and once the timer ended I opened my phone and this video was right on my CZcams and i think God did hear me and sent me this video. He knew in advance I was gonna try to contact him like I did and panic
Whenever talking about religious OCD I have been told that the process to break free from this learning to be loved by God. But this process makes me affeaud because I fear that in that process I’ll become complacent, passive or permissive about sins in my life leaving me with the only option to be obsessive of sin management ensuring that becoming permissive does not happen. I pray that God be with all those struggling with this and His Love may break through all these doubts and thought and help us all find rest and joy in his presence.
This is totally me. I'm always afraid I'm reprobate as a Christian.
@@jordyn_shorts Jesus loves you, seek to honor Him in everything you do. He will forgive you if he convicts you on that. I’m not sure if it’s sinful, but if He does, repent and remember how much He loves you
@@jordyn_shorts Disney is NOT demonic, if people think Disney is demonic they clearly haven't seen truly evil shows out there that literally glorify blood and gore on-screen. Disney is just a flawed money-obsessed company, but I roll my eyes whenever people think Disney films are the most wicked thing ever. They're not even close. In fact, a handful of older Disney films are actually quite nice - I'm partial to 1940's "Pinocchio" myself.
@@jordyn_shorts If your conscience is bothering you, you can always return them. I have been in situations like that, and I either prayed for direction or looked at what my conscience was telling me.
I have also been a reprobate too. It's been crazy that I check out. 😢
Your ministry has been ESSENTIAL to my recovery bro
This is so so helpful. Your resources are Biblical and also actually helpful for healing from OCD. I am GRATEFUL for you!
I’m one of the guys who facing this too, faith ocd. Now Im on my journey to victory. Man, the Bible is so true, the sufferings we’ve gone through is not uncommon to mankind.
When it seems impossible to forgive, I decide to forgive for just one day, and see how it goes after that. I was so upset about a breakup for so long and couldn't seem to let go of the pain.
Deciding to temporarily Forgive Makes it doable for me, because I can also do the same thing the next day and even if I start obsessing over the hurtful situation the next day It's a lot easier to take it 1 step at a time to forgive the day after.
One day at a time!💗
I love this
Thank you for this video. I needed this. I am an obsessive worrier to the point where it's very debilitating and exhausting. Today it got really bad, I decided to take a nap...and when I woke up, your video was on my screen. I appreciate this video for the clarity that I needed to mentally be at peace
“Faith is just taking action on what you believe”
Me: wait but what if I don’t really believe
you .5 seconds later: OCDers are like “yeah but do I really believe”
thank you for being the loving slap to the face I need sometimes 😂
@abbeyerickson9441 ur existence and ur comment made me feel good I was crying for me being like this but u being honest abt urself helped me
I definitely have ocd. Had it since i was young and it evolves over the years. It has so many different avenues for me.
Does anyone feel like there OCD tries to tell them God isn't real?I have loved God all my life
Yes I dealt with that everyday for a few months and it was horrible and scary. But I overcame it through Gods power and faith.
When you said , I've committed an unpardonable sin I nearly fell off my chair.
I've done that to myself a lot recently and I'm sure the priest is saying no not him again 😅
Welp. I feel as if you unlocked a major part of me just now. Gave answers for questions I didn’t even know I was looking for. Wow.
You're so wise, Mark! God is really guiding you. You've helped me in so many ways. God Bless you and the family.
Also: I found that the OCD Stories podcast episode 293 (here on CZcams) featuring Micah Howe gave great context of struggling with OCD with a Christian background. I’ve listened to that one several times 👍
SPOT ON. I really needed this!
Mark, thank you so much for all your work , it is starting to bring freedom from the deadlock. 'am I a child of God' and the ghastly thought that I cannot 'believe' I move forward because God has already received me. Phil
Excellent, on point and very encouraging Mark!! Great shirt too!
I don't know how this got recommended to me at such a time as this but I have no words to describe what it is opening for me. I wasn't even watching youtube really at 1st I just picked the phone up and went on even though I was busy.
🤯😦🤭😢
I don't think I have OCD but what you said and described is so exact to my current struggle I'm beyond amazed. I've been so crushed under the pressure of my thoughts that I can see others seeing it on me now. And now I can't stop crying so I'm gonna stop writing.
Thank you
God is with you, I believe He sent this to you 😊🤗 God bless you and your loved ones, friends and everyone
Mark, thank you for this video. I see now I've been over thinking way too much; God bless you and your family
Thank you brother. Excited for your new book!
WE 👷♂️LABOUR in the WORD📖 to ENTER INTO HIS REST🏞
Hebrews 4:9-12 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.✝️
Thank you sooooo much! What a blessing your work is for others - me especially. God bless you xx
Thank you for for your life giving wisdom, this is life saving content. Blessings
A few years ago I trusted God with a very important subject in my life. I prayed a lot, I did everything that was my part in the matter and I experienced seigns that gave me hope but it was the greatest disappointment of my life. It felt completely abondend and lost. I don’t know why he gave me so obvious seigns.
Now I can’t trust him nor myself anymore because obviously theologicaly it could not have been a seign from him because he is perfect and does not make mistakes, nor is he misleading. So now I can’t trust my own evaluation and experience . How could I trust God when it’s all on me to understand him perfectly or to trust him perfectly otherwise I will experience so much pain again and again… Rationaly I know who he is and that he did not hurt me but emotional it felt like God is breaking my heart into thousand peace’s…
Love this message! Also, you always make me laugh!
I love the VeggieTales song at the beginning lol
Great content. As someone who was stuck for many years in vicious circles via compulsions it's also helpful to face the fears of the pending doom. This is so tough because erp therapy challenges you to face your fears through exposure and this topic is arguably one of the toughest to do so. The fastest way out of this horrific disorder is to Face your fears with no compulsions. Check out Dr. Penzels material as well.. his articles are very helpful!!
For starters, I'm not trolling nor am I crazy, I'm being serious
I'm getting these new coach glasses in 2 weeks. Coach collabed with Disney. Christians nowadays say that Disney is demonic and we shouldn't partake in anything that is dealing with them. This is freaking me out since I already made the purchase on the glasses, and I really want them. Am I doing something bad? Is this really demonic? Is God going to be mad at me if I get the glasses?
Please don't judge me.
@@jordyn_shorts if you've been diagnosed with OCD or are feeling some of these symptoms then my guess is you have an intolerance to uncertainty. You will ask these types of questions all the time because there is no black and white answer. I faced similar questions and the path towards freedom was facing the fear that maybe I was wrong and was actually a stuck sinner. It sounds counter productive but it's the actual path out of this mess. I would recommend Dr. penzels articles and a counselor for further support. What I can tell you is that you will eventually need to realize that you will doubt all grey area sins. Coming to terms that is a solid first step.
OCD is a perfectionist mentality. Jesus Said to be Perfect..but His definition of Perfect was Obey the Commandments Best you can and Forgive Yourself and others when you mess up. Repent and move forward with Faith. 😊❤
7:00 yup, my mental image of this is usually Charlie from It's Always Sunny obsessing over Pepe Silvia lol. That honestly is how OCD feels sometimes, as silly as it sounds.
Has anyone here stumbled across the blog Grace Abounding in OCD? I just found it today - no affiliation! Last year when you did a video on looking for recommendations for other people to interview or whatever, I thought this might be an opportunity to look into. Some of the posts I read there were really insightful.
8:27 this startled me 🤣🤣
Love the spinning song 🤣
This is really good. I dont have to be a person who 24/7 checks their faith. The practice and equipping wasnt there though.
Spring 1992....my OCD after 16 years got the worst it ever did..... I was so so angry at God then, the anger was so intense for allowing all this. I went on Prozac then and the OCD lessened then greatly in 12 weeks of Prozac. The anger never subsided towards God and I became a die hard atheist after and only recently turned back to God.....the OCD is still there though.
For starters, I'm not trolling nor am I crazy, I'm being serious
I'm getting these new coach glasses in 2 weeks. Coach collabed with Disney. Christians nowadays say that Disney is demonic and we shouldn't partake in anything that is dealing with them. This is freaking me out since I already made the purchase on the glasses, and I really want them. Am I doing something bad? Is this really demonic? Is God going to be mad at me if I get the glasses?
Please don't judge me.
@jordyn_shorts Hey. I'm also a Christian with OCD. Im sorry you're
struggling with such a debilitating and distressing condition. I know it too well. These things are not from God. He doesn't want you to hurt. But it's unfortunately pain and illness is something humans deal with.
That doesn't mean God won't bring healing, and lend us a helping hand out of our seemingly endless cycle of torment. My OCD is telling me right now, "You don't have authority to speak on this topic!" But I'm kindly telling my OCD to be quiet. Because this is what I know to be true.
First off, people aren't inherently evil. The enemy tempts people to do bad things. Disney may have some people who have done corrupt and twisted things. These people may have been tempted by the enemy, used their own judgement and desires to decide what is good and evil at the expense of others. But that doesn't make the whole cooperation "demonic," It is a huge cooperation. There are likely many people who work for Disney who mean well and are kind, even Christian. Disney products have brought innocent joy to children and families for a long time. Many Christians enjoy Disney. Yes many, people at the company are corrupt and manipulative. But God will deal with them accordingly. It's not for you or I to worry about.
Secondly, they are glasses. Just an accessory meant to be worn. Not an idol, not something demonic. Just a cool pair of shades that make you happy. Atleasy I'm assuming they make you happy, because you want them!
God doesn't want to deprive us of joy. He does warn against materialism, but that's if it takes over your life and if you are putting those things above God. Since you are considering God to the point of distressing, I would think definitely you aren't putting material things above God.
I can't speak for God, but I know and have seen His unconditional love. He wants us to love Him, to find joy in His name. He wouldn't want you to associate His name with stress, anxiety, and overthinking. He is caring and forgiving.
Philippians 4:6 NIV:
"Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. "
In this passage, the apostle Paul is not saying God condemning you for being anxious. He's telling us there's not a reason to be. Jesus already redeemed us, and we should find peace and solice in this. Of course that doesn't mean we should just sin whenever we want. But I don't believe you are sinning in this instance. Even if you do in the future (everyone will inevitably) That's human. All of us are sinners and all of us who follow Jesus's teachings are forgiven.
We live in a corrupted world. God knows this and has saved us anyway. Most foods have been grown by someone in unfair working conditions. But that doesn't mean God doesn't want us to eat. We help others when we're able, we pray for the world, and for God to bless those who have experienced injustices and know and believe that God will, and already has fixed corruption.
I think you can enjoy your glasses.
I hope this helped :)
I'm on Facebook and I'm hearing people distort grace and mercy. 😰 I'm not sure if people even understand the definition of GRACE. In Japanese it's called 恵み
Thank you very very much!
9:42 ❤
That was so funny about the mad scientist fussing over something thanks for that. I can laugh at myself :)
The thing is that the unpardonable sin is a matter of eternal significance and not to be taken lightly and/or jokingly. I have battled with such thoughts and feelings for more than half my life, since my teenage years and I'm in my 40s today. It sucks the hope out of anyone struggling with it. It's terrible that one has to deal with this while others enjoy to the fullest their lives in Christ. Today i feel numb to everything even though i never stopped congregating in church. I understand that going to church doesn't mean you are saved but saved people do go to church and fellowship with others.
If you have Accepted Christ as your Lord & Savior & if you have been baptized in JESUS name for the remission of your sins you are Saved & no no matter what your feelings tell you, you are a Child of God.
God knows all things, he knows everything you’ve gone through.. remember one thing, sometimes God will allow something to be there for our own good, you might feel like it’s a terrible thing that you’re going through but maybe that’s the only way for you to be in Gods path.
Don’t worry, let your faith be bigger than your fears… no matter how much we worry about something nothing good will happen, JUST trust God, as hard as it might be be just believe you’re a Child of God because you are!!
Stay strong, you’re going to heaven if you don’t give up!!
I have a question. I have this idea that identifying with OCD internally is perhaps something that makes me feel okay about sinning, or that "God knows my struggle and I have a mental disorder, it's more difficult for me than other people because I am confused and so I sin to feel better about it". OR something like that. However, it is true that anxiety, dread and worries related to OCD makes getting into the Bible challenging for me, as well as my ADD being troublesome as well. But, these internal identifications in the moment are ideas and I worry about the extent to which these concepts make me prideful and instil a belief that I'm a bad person because of the sin associated with the struggle and the resulting lack of trust and faith because if I had true faith then I would be able to trust and not worry about these things.
Is there a relationship between having OCD, identifying in the ego with having OCD, and resultant hesitancy and fear of getting into the word.
I feel guilt, anger, anxiety, shame, and fear so much.
Sometimes I think oh my OCD is causing a lot of struggle but a lot of the time I just believe I'm a terrible person for sinning and not reading the word, that God is angry at me and I'm just lazy. It's true that I am lazy and I have a lot of sinful struggles. Maybe I just need to let go, it's hard to trust when there's so much self contempt, shame, anger and fear and anxiety there. However, when I have connected with God through reading the word and been given revelations, it's been wonderful, but the cycle of sin continues.
I think I need to trust that the Word has all that I will ever need and not resist it so much.
Sorry this was a huge tangent, I'm sorry if this is burdensome and just me complaining and making excuses for myself. Sometimes I feel like I will never be saved and be able to glorify God in the way that I know intellectually I have been called to do, but God knows my heart, I pray that everything works out and I bear good fruit for the kingdom in due course.
Why do I always focus on myself. SHAME. ugh
I can’t leave god again I’m lost without him and I see that now completely
Yep this was a huge prob for me.
I have people ocd. I want to be with people.
I've got dejesus ocd! Help
Spinning, spinning 😆
Simple question, can religious ocd make you don't like religion anymore and it's rules? Hope you answer and thank you.
Yes it can and that’s what the enemy wants.
What was the original spinning song he was singing in the beginning?
I started having anxiety at 1:15
The checking is evidence in your belief in God, because you are only checking due to a fear of not being completely honest about your faith in the sight of God.
I don't have OCD but I am autistic, so hyperfixating is a thing for me. I have to confess, I stop practising Christianity entirely because I don't know how to do it without becoming obsessed. It feels so unhealthy for me every time I am in it. The only problem is I still believe in my heart, so then I live with a constant niggling guilt in the back of my mind because I'm not doing anything. I'm convinced I'm going to hell.
You still believe in God and Christ so just come back to him at least by praying, ik it’s hard when u have issues that affect faith, God bless u
But what do you mean by practising Christianity? Jesus loves you and he just wants you to love him back, to accept him and to repent from your sins. you dont have to do more. We are saved by faith and not works. You dont necessearly have to go to church or pray 24/7 to go to heaven. You just have to rest on Gods love and become a good person as you go trough this journey. Hope it helped :)
@@georgplaki8983but I feel if I don’t do those things I’ll stray away from god like I did before
It's not about a practice, it's not about religion, it's about a relationship, I have both o ocd and autism, you can get through this through christ who strengthens you! And you're not alone! Turn back to him! All he will do is love you, when we come to the end of ourselves we come to the foot of the cross ❤️
As an ex-Christian with OCD, I really recommend just completely letting go of religion for anyone willing to try. All religions on earth were created to control human behavior, and all rigid systems of shame and control like religion can aggravate OCD. It was so freeing for me to finally let go of the moral standards other people had imposed on me and live by my own moral standards free of the constant fear of eternal punishment.
I hope you find Jesus again i hope you meet Him trust me He’s kind and gentle ❤Jesus loves You
Please turn back to God and Jesus they love you and want you back!!❤️❤️❤️✝️✝️✝️God bless you and Jesus loves you!!
I think that's a great solution and you're very brave for taking that step.
I agree that religion has been used as a tool to control others for years. However if you look closely at the gospels and what jesus was doing. He was doing the opposite of control. He didn't let them make him a king. He wouldn't take control. He set people free. He healed. His only rules were love God and love others. Humans over the course of history took that faith and used it for control. But that's not genuine faith then.
Lol thank you