Will a cheap 2X6 pine workbench last?
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I wouldn't mind your guidance on what kind of bench to build for a shapeoko pro xxl I am putting into a tiny bedroom in the hopes to get started in wood working, with the space limitations I am finding it hard to get any kind of shop functionality when even a garage would be three times bigger.
Prob great idea. BUT..Usually the bettrr thkng is carefully draw it out and think about. "Is this large enough. Strong enough to be well abused, without breaking. Definitely case of first done. Get enough supplies for the "second one" Thsg might be the actual one.
Finally someone said it. "It's a work surface not a dinner table". Holy moly. You get to a point where you think some of these work bench videos are made for a high class restaurants.
I agree. Some of the benches I've seen online I would be afraid to walk into the same room with a saw in my hands, much less actually use the thing.
"Tool worship" like polishing an ax into a mirror and making a purple heart handle for it.
And I hear "please use a sacrificial piece of wood on that nice workbench" - the workbench IS the sacrificial piece!
@@TOAD7464 You mean axe?
Multi thousand dollar work benches are for professional woodworkers that can easily drop that amount of money on them because they don't care. The videos all over CZcams regarding the building of these overpriced beauties, and let's be honest they're beauties...are to get VIEWS out of those of us that look at them and say "damn I gotta have that". Big box stores and lumber yards love it when amateur woodworkers watch those videos and decide they want to try and build one, because they know you'll be back for more lumber when you mess up. If I were ever going to build another bench I would build it similar to James' pine bench. Function over Form in this case.
My great grandfather built a workbench out of pine. It was about the same size as yours. When he died, my uncle claimed it. For years it sat under a tarp in his back yard and was used from time to time as a potting bench. About 12 years ago I asked if I could have it. After getting it, I cleaned it up and it is working as well as it did when my great granddad made it back in about 1910. So pine will be fine if you don't bash it around.
I made my workbench out of cast off 2x4s in 1990. Since then I have built dozens of projects on it. It has an end vise and uses a square dog. It is 5’ long and 24” wide with tool trough. On it I have built numerous book cases, China cabinets, and tall boy dressers as well as many little items. It is the ingenuity and skill of the craftsman, not the gizmos on the workbench that matters.
Made this bench for myself. Got lucky and a 100 year old house was undergoing renovation and I salvaged enough framing lumber to build this. Works great!
I was so excited when you built that bench! I had been woodworking less than a year, I was broke, and I was just trying to keep myself busy during a really horrible transition period. Back then, your "Old Timey Woodworking" videos were bread and butter for me. Thanks for the update!
I bought your plans, but took a lot of liberties with them when I built my bench. I made mine from standing dead eastern white pines that I cut down on my property with an axe and bowsaw. I cut kerfs in the logs and chopped the joggles off with a machete, and then hand planed them (using a #7 to get a glueable joint). I ended up with 4x5's, and I milled the mortises & dog holes on their sides before the glue up (I left the bottoms round). Once I had the top, I put it on some sawhorses and used it to build the frame, but I used all mortise & tenon joinery on that. The reason for using hand tools was because I enjoy that more, and it was my exercise program last summer/fall. If I had run on the treadmill, I wouldn't have a bench. The only money I spent was on the glue. Thanks for the plans - they were very helpful!
I'm a 40 yr old. Never got into wood working. Your videos make me feel like I could. Very accessible info. Thank you
Simple, sturdy and effective. Just what you want for a workbench. I’ll second (!) another viewer’s comment: it’s a workbench, not a dinner table. Right on. Thanks for being one of the trusted channels that i rely on improve (or confirm) the way I build my workbenches. You probably get a few views from my potential customers. I find that it’s sometimes more effective to have them watch one of your excellent videos, instead of me walking them thru features to consider. And, of course, you’re a better explainer than I’ll ever be.
I built one very much like this in 1980. Multiple houses and shops later it is still my main work surface. 2x6 frame, 4x4 legs, and 2x10’s laid flat for the top. Every few years I tighten the bolts that hold it together, smooth out the top a bit with a long plane, and give it another dressing of linseed oil. Height matches my table saw. Quick mounting system for my miter saw. She’s been a good partner! Love your channel.
Man I really love your detailed explanations and reasoning for the features in almost every video you upload. Im not very active on comments but I want to thank you for all your time and efford.
The reasoning is the most important point to me. I've had to teach myself every skill I have because my family want handy and it's frustrating to see something and it's SO OBVIOUS to those who know that they never mention the WHY.
Understanding why lets me see why I should or shouldn't consider something.
So you are saying I wasn't procrastinating, I was letting the wood dry🤔
Ahh that dry aged wood, stiff and mighty!
I don't know if my wife would buy off on that reasoning. Still worth a try!
@@GI_Stacker So you are saying knowing is half the battle but convincing your wife is the other half?
Letting wood dry is the best thing to do for projects. I have 2x4s back when they were 1.50, 15 dollar sheets of plywood. And by allowing it to dry for the last 5 years I have not put my projects off. I allowed them to fully dry and that has saved me money. 5 more years of drying and then I will be ready for a projects :-). I call it an investment
@@yetinother That's what she said!
Love the disc golf basket, even have the same one
stumpy nubs has the disc golf fever. 😃
Always interesting to see how old projects hold up.
Digging the disc golf basket in the background and always appreciate the great content. I find well used workbenches are a living,, changing thing and I never shy away from modifying mine sometimes dramatically) or denting it, or putting new holes in it. It is perhaps the most flexible tool in the workshop though I have friends that seem to be afraid of even scratching theirs!
Oh hey, I haven't seen the Disc golf basket in your videos before. Love to see hobbies overlap!
That bench is like an old friend! I'm sure there are great memories of what that bench help build...
Cheers from Tijuana/San Diego; I built my bench from 3×4s that the lumber were cut in 1901 it was 58 years old and it spend 25 years in the shade, when I got them in 1984 for free, from an old man. He kept a log for all the wood he had And until now It's still rock solid, I din't use any glue just dove tail joints, I wish I cud send you a picture of it, It even has a name ( Tantor) cos it looks like an elephant skin, scratches, cuts, stains, but all the furniture that I have built on it it makes it priceless. ¡Take care and stay safe!
I can vouch for this bench design. I bought the plans several years ago. I made mind from 2x10 douglas fir construction lumber since I didn't have any old stuff around. I let it sit a month or more as suggested. The bench still looks great, though its not quite as old as Stumpy's I don't think (close though). I used a vise screw from grizzly to make a leg vise, and originally had a pipe clamp end vise but have recently replaced it with the Twin Turbo vise. I skipped the square dog holes and the threaded rods going through horizontally. No issues with either of those. I am considering adding some dog holes to the other vise leg to use a hold fast to help keep long boards held to the bench for end planing in the leg vise. I matched the height of the bench to my table saw, so it can also be use as an outfeed table (I leave a gap between the saw and bench so any sleds with runners can still be used and I didn't have to cut runner slots in the bench). Finish is just danish oil - helps with any glue drops that are cleaned up relatively quickly. I didn't do a wooden cabinet, but I did put some plastic drawer sets and some other tools and cases underneath. It adds weight, but it was stable enough on its own in my opinion. I also have the heavy duty work bench casters on this so it can be moved when needed.
In a normal lumber price environment, this is very inexpensive bench with all the features of the fancy ones. The money saved over hard wood can literally buy a floor standing power tool. I am considering adding some dog holes to the other vise leg to use a hold fast to help keep long boards held to the bench for end planing in the leg vise, and maybe even a tool well on the back side.
For a working bench, I don't think anyone would be disappointed. Just know it will get some dings on account of being made from softer wood.
Really interesting to read your side of the story after all those years!
Great stuff. 👍
How are your dog holes holding up? I would think the Doug fir would be too soft and they’d elongate over time when pressure is applied with a dog or hold fast.
@@jimt97038 the dog holes are still pretty tight. I won't say they are all perfect, but the dogs I made are out of 3/4" dowel (poplar I think) and they are still tight in the holes. The boards are on their side and cross drilled, so the clamping force is pushing in to endgrain. That helps. The only ones I've seen any noticeable elongation on are the ones I put a metal holdfast in. But even those are still tight enough for the wooden dogs to work in.
Appreciate your input. I just got the plans and intend to use your experience (and of course Stubby's update) and insights going with Douglas Fir 2 x 12 and a 6' length. Thanks again!
I owe a great deal to Mr. Stumpy for the skills, tips and tricks I have obtained over the years from watching this channel. Absolutely brilliant teacher and craftsman.
I used two 3/4" plywood for the top and it's served me well. I did put poly on it just so good glue can be wiped off. And 100% agree on "it's a work surface, not a dinner table" As always, very informative video
Hey thanks man! You're awesome! I always appreciate your vids! Thanks for being so generous with the stuff you've worked hard to learn - saves the rest of us a world of trouble!
I love that there's a black hole basket in your shop! But I don't see any MVP or Axiom putters...thanks for the video!
Thanks a million for the update!!! I’d love to see updates on the machines in your book as well as anything else you’ve built over the years.
Thanks a bunch for this update, James! I watched your build videos for this bench 3 years ago and wanted to build it myself, but lacked the time and space to do so… I had just rekindled my hand tool woodworking interest at that time. Instead, I built an English joiner’s bench that has served me well enough until now. I will be moving into a new home and a new shop this winter, though, and will be able to build a bigger and more solid bench… and I am again thinking of building your bench. It’s good to know it has held up well for 8 years!
Thanks for revisiting this project. It's interesting and valuable to get the perspective of someone who has lived with something for a few years and know what they would do differently.
You are like a fountain of knowledge that I feel like I need to watch twice to catch all the amazing points. Thanks!!!!
Great update James. Thanks for letting us know how it held up. I'm thinking about building a new bench for my shop since the one I'm using is one I built "on the fly" with no real knowledge of what I needed and no real idea of what I was doing.
I'm new to your channel, been watching your videos for a couple months now. I enjoy your straight talk about the processes, tips and builds. It's nice to see a wood working channel that goes straight into being informative expertise without much filler. Your videos are so well planned out and explained, and I'm amazed at how sometimes you can talk straight into the camer with slow and steady uninterrupted wisdom! So you're a very awesome teacher, and I appreciate that alot. Some channels treat youtube videos with gimmicks, but you treat it like you're on a show that's meant for beginners and pro's, which I like way more. Thank you!
I am a simple man. I see disc golf, I upvote.
Glad to see an update on an old project, along with what you'd have done differently. Wish more creators did this.
Great video. I remember when you built that. I bought your plans, but never did build. Now I might make it. Loved seeing how it held up. Thanks for sharing.
I’ve been wanting to build a bench since I found your videos this year. Just needed space in the garage and seeing if lumber prices get reasonable again. I did figure out where to put it. I really appreciate the update and the further explanation of why you did the threaded rod.
Thank you for teaching me new skills. Best wishes from Ireland 🇮🇪
Excellent presentation and very informative as to how and why each piece was built at the time. Thank you for sharing, and congrats on making something to last a lifetime.
Disc golf huh? My favorite game!
Thanks for the great video James 👍 I really appreciate your attention to all forms of woodworking.
Disc golf! Dude, I like you even more now.
I saw that too!
Thanks, it is rare when I find a video that is just relaxing and enjoyable. Yours are.
Good video. I built mine with reclaimed Southern Yellow Pine over 10 years ago with 4 vices. I have 6 locking casters so I can move it around. I love it.
Man, this is the first time I see you and I like you instantly! Very useful information. Congrats!
I have been in the market for a new bench and considered making one from recycled lumber. That definitely answered my questions. Thanks for the explanations, I love long term reviews as they allow you to see the positive and negative of projects. Thanks for the great videos 👍
This video has 2 of my favorite things, pine workbench and disc golf.
Always good to see how a project holds up over time.
Thanks, Stumpy. A great example of building a bench your way to do what you want. Mine is made from 6 inch thick southern yellow pine with the fittings and features that I wanted - my way. It is only 21 years old and is just as flat as the day I made it. You and I prove that imported perfect hardwood is not necessary for a good bench.
I really enjoy your old timey woodworking videos. I'd love to see more of them
The episodes on building this bench is how I found Stumpy Nubbs. It was great to see this follow up!
Thank you, James! My Son is thinking through a bench for his new garage. I sent him your original bench videos. We’ll see what he does.
Stumpy! Couldn’t be happier with my construction lumber bench and the mechanical joints for the top have kept it sturdy.
Sitting next to it? An MVP black hole disc golf basket. I can’t believe I didn’t see yours until this video, that’s awesome!
Gawd, I love watching your videos. I enjoy watching the guys build benches out of purple- heart and bubinga with brass inlays, but, well, you know . . . I actually work on mine.
I know what you mean....Rob Cosmans bench is a beautiful work of art...but I couldn't work on it because I'd be paranoid about damaging it. My benches are all CLS, mdf and plywood and they take a real beating without complaint.
Love the bench and the Disc Golf Basket..
Thanks! Wish I had seen this a while ago, but now that I’m moving and going to be looking for a new work bench this looks like my first build!
Nice workbench thanks for taking the time to show it.God bless you and yours.
Christopher Schwartz in the Anarchist Workbench actually recommends using no1 pine for a bench. Says the benches he's found, if taken care of, are studier and harder over time then a lot of hardwood. I'm glad you don't forget the guys with the small shops
The softer wood helps absorb a lot of shock which is why really old woodworking benches were usually made from slow growth pine, heavyish and softish. Plus so what if you damage the top? It's a woodworking bench, just plane it flat again.
Dude, I've been subbed for so long and just noticed the disc golf basket! I'm obsessed and glad to see my worlds colliding!
I have been thinking about using similar material for a work bench. I really appreciate how practical your advise and presentations are. Hard woods are astronomically expensive right now and as you said, this isn’t fine furniture. Some of the bloggers build works of art that I would never use.
Hey Stumpy... That be a grand old pine built workbench you built to your standards & will probably outlive you & whoever ends up with it in all eventualities! I like how you gave yourself ( 2 ) options for your dog holes or in this case squares too & placing your end vise where it would work for you, very well done...
I too have a softwood workbench that I built to my needs as well in 32" X 7' with a floor shelf shimmed 1/8" off the floor. I built a new bench top on top of an old one with 3/4" oak veneer plywood, completely rebuilt sub frame & legs. Facing the bench I mounted a very old 9" woodworkers vise 50's era made in PA on it's LH face. I gave it 14" hardwood jaws, i.e. beech & maple from scraps I had...Installing the vise was the game changer!
Last year I built a 2nd bench from scratch, 24" x 8' along with a miter saw table attached between both benches. I now have a fully functional miter station with a dedicated shopvac sitting beneath it...This bench is also made form softwoods, i.e. 2 x 4 legs in a " L " pattern, glued & screwed together on the inside with pocket holes. I used ( 2 ) sheets of 1/2" poplar veneer plywood for it's top on this build with a ( 1 ) coat of Gunstock stain with ( 10 ) coats of Miniwax oil based semi-gloss clear poly, 320'd by hand between each coat. I did this my way & all of it exceeds my expectations...
Bill on the Hill... :~)
I completed this bench build a few months ago and it is definitely rock solid. I didn't go with the threaded rod for assembly but did use dowels to align the boards as I laminated them which worked really well. I like the square dogs. I added wooden spring clips to them so they can stand proud of the bench by a couple of inches if I need them to and they don't flop around when I have them recessed and am banging something on the bench with my mallet. I also attached a metal plane stop to the top of one.
LOL, love that quick look in your eyes at 4:28, "I've been dragging my feet for about 8 years". I can relate 😁
Very impressive, gotta love pine. It definitely has its place!! Thanks for the video!
Great review of an awesome bench James, much appreciated! Regards, Mark (South Africa)
I would like to Thank You Good Sir for the video it was Great. The information was very useful and appreciated.
I made a joiners bench out 4x4s. I made it like a traditional Frank Klaus style with a tool tray. I never did get around to making one out of beech because I never needed it. It lasted 25 years.
Thanks for the update. I bought a farm house seven years ago and there is a work bench here in my tractor shed built similar. Assembled some time in the 1980's it was used to rebuild tractors and thrashing machines. The wood has long been preserved with years of oils from the rebuild projects. I need to get rid of it now as it is just too heavy to move around but you could pull a V-8 engine and set it on this workbench and it would not budge!
Thank you for making these videos. I'm looking to make a do everything bench that let's me do my woodworking projects but still allows me to mout my reloading presses. Your information is very useful
I made a 20' bench from scrap construction 2x4's about 10 years ago. (Biscuit joined/glued and run through the jointer and planer).. No issues and top is still super solid. I cut the 2x4's into easy to manage 5' boards and glued them up like a butcher block.. Didn't seal it or anything, just sand it when it get's a ding from something hitting it..
I built a workbench once and used cut off ends of glue lam beams. Being unusable cut offs the pieces cost next to nothing. Left it in Az when I moved 30 years ago and its still working to the best of my knowledge
Just completed a very similar bench from recycled timber.
I incorporated a tool well and very glad I did so. I don't have to go
looking for the little things that I use all the time and
there's no real loss of bench space. Encouraging to learn of the durability.
I built my old construction lumber workbench around the same time you built this one. I took the time to joint and plane the boards, and it’s still square, flat, solid & heavy as when I built it. The shelves underneath store my heavier bench top tools (5” jointer, DeWalt planer, etc.) so it doesn’t move either. I’ve built my share of furniture and shop hardware in the past, and this is still my favorite piece. I’ll probably hand it down to.my kids some day, and it will be just as heavy and solid then.
Awesome Craftsmanship!!!! Thank You!!! 👍😎
I've done my best to reclaim old lumber from people's remodels. It's amazing how cheap 'stud grade' construction lumber from the 1960s and 70s is of such great quality, compared to the stuff we get today. Out here in the west most lumber, old or new, is doug fir.
I have a buddy who built a version of this table out of reclaimed old growth Douglas fir. That is one hard, heavy table. He burnt through quite a few drill bits making his round hole for the hold fasts. There can be quite a difference between new and old growth Douglas fir! Great video as always!
Great video James, thanks for sharing with us. Fred. 🙏🏻🙏🏻👍👍👏🏻👏🏻👋👋
Nice DIY bench. I may have to try making one. I enjoy your videos
Nice disc golf basket!
Ooohhh, temptation. This is the first time I have ever seen your CZcams videos. Looks like I have some viewing to do.
Great video Stumpy!
I sailed on a ninety foot ketch built it 1907 whose hull was rebuilt in the eighties with long leaf yellow pine planks salvaged from a church in North Carolina that was older than the boat. The pine was exceptionally tough and when varnished was beautiful.
Great to see. An heirloom in the making.
OMG, I just noticed something in the background... how did I miss it? Probably because my shop has one too and it just blends in ... Nice disc golf basket!!!!!!
Great video again
Enjoy your channel. Dad built one for me years ago. It goes up and down on the wall to save space when not being used. Made from pine and is still there. They will last
That was a nice look back at your older bench build. I considered your threaded rod idea when I built my bench. I decided against it only because it required me to go get them and I was building with "only what I had" ( pandemic build, didn't want to leave the house for nothing). I thought of the threaded rod as a clamp while it glued up kind of like nails and glue. The glue does the work the nails just keep it clamped together sort of thing. I saw a lot of other builds on youtube that gave me confidence in only glue (mine was not a year old). I made it with a Paul Sellers inspired top but the legs are I little bit like yours. Again, built it with what I had and designed it based on materials I had. I am short, so I am so delighted to have a bench specifically made for ME.
I have been impressed with this bench since I first saw the build video years ago. It is a great design. I am not the least bit surprised it has passed the test of time and hard use.
I hear what you are saying about the location of the vises on this bench, but the original placement makes good sense. We all build our benches for the shops we have, not the shops we want. ✔
Well built. Well done. Thanks!
A disc golfing wood worker! My hero!
“…been draggin’ my feet for 8 years.” You got me on that one. 😂 Love the video!
Love the new platform.
Good video, I put a coat of Danish oil, just to make it easier to remove glue. Everyone stay safe, happy and healthy. From Henrico County Virginia
Heck of a table!
I’m currently using a 2x4 1/2” plywood topped bench screwed to the wall, got a cast iron face vise, and a harbor freight carpenter vise screwed on and it works. If I had the room I would build an actual bench but gotta make do
Great video
I built my bench out of 2x4 reclaimed lumber. It has sat outside in my back yard through 4 years of winter and summer here in Northern Virginia I use it extensively, and it is still going strong
Love this info.
Thanks. Weight and hieght info is superb. Being a mixed tool worker who is considering creating a new bench these are important facts. Trying to come up with an easy adjustment or possibly two level bench or bench system. Throwing in the sharpening station at one end at more of a proper thigh height… I have another month or so before shop temps are reasonable again to dream, concieve and figure what’s next. Thanks again
James, so nice to feature your son in the video at 3:40😂😂😂
PS: Is that a Dutch Tool Chest lurking in the background there? Have you done a video on it yet? Want to tell us more about it?
PPS: Really enjoy your videos. Thanks a million from Cape Town☺
I built a bench based on this design a few years ago and it has been great. I changed a few things because I had access to different wood. I had some 2 inch hardwood left over from another project so I used it. I also made my square dogs only ~3/4 square and had one skinny layer rather than making every layer the same thickness. I love how simple the construction method is, it really didn't take any special skills or even careful cuts or measurements. It has been a fantastic bench, for the first several years I had it unfinished, then I spilled linseed oil on part of it and decided to do the rest. It took forever for the round hold fast holes to work properly after getting linseed oil in them.
You bet this workbench will last a long time. My father made a bench out of 2 X 4 and 2 X 8 lumber over 75 years ago and I am still using it today.
I have the same disc basket in my garage!
Nice to see that this bench has held up well. I don't recall watching the build video.
I have a similar bench in my basement workshop. I also use 4 metal rods to keep the boards together. I glued sections of 4 or 5 boards together and then assembled those sections with rods.
This allows me to disassemble the table top and get it out of the basement via the small staircase.
Obviously the holes for the bench dogs are in the glued sections.
Luckily, the sections haven't shifted or warped - but a basement has a fairly stable climate throughout the seasons.