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Do not be nervous ! It is a teamwork with the codriver and is a awesome experience ! I would be nervous if I had to participate in the Rally Greece. Imagine how difficult it must be in transit from one stage to another, following the road book and interpreting the traffic signs of the highways and routes in Greece, which will surely be written in Greek!
I love these vids. I'll probably never rally personally but I love Wyatt's teaching and straightforward way of explaining. My one gripe would be that you should use a clip-on mike for your audio. Would bump up your quality about 10x and add to the "professional" feel of the videos. Also, I figured everyone made their own notebooks for the rally. Guess it makes sense that the organizers would provide one.
spmil999 Like he said in the video centered around the notes, in some places they give everyone the same book and they use the recce to see it and adjust them to make the most sense to the driver. Other times, they will probably give you the blank book and the team has to fill it out themselves.
Love the videos. Most likely attending the school next summer to start to get my license. I would love it if you guys could make a video explaining some if the different jobs there are in rally and how you guys became instructors/co-drivers, tech's, or even drivers themselves. Thx keep up the good work
Thanks, and we look forward to seeing you up here! We need to get deeper into some of those "careers in motorsports" videos for sure. Stay tuned, we might know some folks that can make it happen!
Thank you so much guys for posting this I hopefully someday I can come to your school and do a few classes but I've watched every video multiple times I might be co-driving in the Ohio Forest rally based purely on what I've learned from you so God bless you sir
Thank you so much for this video. Planning on doing our very first rally end of September this year. This was super helpful and answered some questions I had. Can't wait to get out there and give it a wack! Keep up the great content 🙌
Muy buena explicacion ! Los miro desde Cordoba, Argentina. Aqui tuvimos por casi 40 años al WRC y is a awesome event !!! Tambien tenemos campeonatos nacionales y estatales de muy buen nivel, y esto que explicas es tal cual !!! Muy buen video ! Felicitaciones !
I love when Wyatt goes "Hey guys, quick video" and then you check the time and its like 25 to 35 min video. Fuck yes! Bring on more of these, wish there was a rally spot like this over here. We have international championships but no schools or practice places.
aNd ThAt'S a WoNdErFuL tHiNg Great video haha, I laughed everytime you said "you go screaming through the woods and over the valley and through the bridges"
This is really lots of helpful information. Do you have any video regarding strategies and suspension tuning and tire choosing for different rally? Also, could you please recommend 1 or 2 video rally games? I started to play Collin McRae rally decades ago and now playing Dirt Rally 2 on PS4 with a Logitech G29 set-up, I am trying to enjoy it more by understanding rally. Is there any other good rally games? Big thank you!
Thanks for the video. Very helpful. My next question would be how would repairs and issues on a stage works? Say I get a flat tire on a stage, what’s the proper way to change it? Do I find a certain area to pull off too? Will cars still be barreling past me? And same thing if my car has a major issue that immobilizes it, how do I get it out? Do I wait for everyone to finish running the stage? Sorry for the long paragraphs but you guys are super helpful
If you have a problem on stage, just find the safest place you can to pull over, then every rally car has to have 3 emergency triangles in it... You have to run back and put the emergency triangles up (same side of road) so that the next cars will see them and they'll slow down to go around you safely. Also the last page of every route book is an OK sign that you show to the other cars to let them know there's not a medical emergency. Once you have your triangles and OK sign, fix your car if you can. If you can't fix it, after the last rally car goes through, you'll see the "sweep" trucks and they'll tow you out at least to a main road, cell signal, sometimes back to service if possible.
If you are broken down but want to stay in the race, you CAN NOT call your service crew to come help you, this is "illegal service" and will disqualify you. You can beg / borrow / buy any tools or parts you need from other competitors... pull into a parts store... get help from spectators... wave down a tool truck... anything you want, but if someone sees your service crew helping you out, you'll have some explaining to do when you get to the end!
great job boss......I wish i will be there very soon in the rally.......so damn carzy about all of it..... doing Rally..is the only the only thing i dreamed about the very first day i started driving viz. 1993.....and now being 34/35 i have about 27 yrs. of driving experience........anyhow.....plz ping me in case u can help me with anything alongwith such lessons on rally............thnx a lot once again......a lot to write/tell ...but let see bdw.....
I got a little bit of info at the school and won my very first rally. My second race wasnt as good. I came in 14th....lol. 3rd race I was 8th and my last rally I came in 4th. That was 2 yrs ago. I haven't raced since. I guess I just wanted to get it out of my system then lost interest. I'm starting to.get into off road truck racing now. Whether or not I get to race is yet to be seen. I said all this to tell you that I did get some useful info here at the school and I absolutely suggest you do a school Whether its this one or one of the others. One thing I will tell you is everyone (including me) says it looks easy. I assure you it's not. I came in very lucky many times. Luck plays alot more in rally then other races.
You have not counted the adrenaline you feel when you finish a stage and you have to make some light fix in the car and you consume time of the allotted transit time. Then they have to hurry to get to the next stage but respecting all traffic laws ... and let's not mention if there is heavy traffic on the routes !!! There the adventure becomes more interesting !!!
What sort of penalties are incurred for showing up to ATC or MTC early / late? Does it really matter for your overall performance / score, or is it just something that helps the organizers keep everything running smoothly?
You are given penalties for BOTH arriving early or late to atc&mtc, usually adding extra time to your overall time. That way your transit is controlled, you have just enough time to drive from state to stage in a safe manner, and also you don't have any extra time to work (refuel or change tires, try to fix car damageon) in you car outside of service.
Amazing info however some questions remain unanswered. If it's 2 days do you even sleep in between? What'll happen when you get off track or damage your car or, god beware injure yourself, beyond repair? What if you get lost while driving between the stages and won't show up in time on the next stage? Disqualified?
Yes, you need to sleep becouse racing days usually start early and last all day long. Damages to your car you can fix them yourself on the stage or on the road sections, but after a number of stages in the day all cars go back to the service park to refuel, get repairs, setup changes to the car, tyres change. After all that they go back racing on the next stages. If you are late at Time Control you'll get a penalty.
When does one poop? If you are in Service and need fuel, where do you get the fuel from...or parts should the car break...or tires, or whatever else? How does one go about practicing rally racing? Is rally school the only option for that sort of thing? God I want to do this so badly, but the initial investment is pretty severe...can one rent/lease a rally car (particularly a cheap one)?
Are you in the US? Check out SCCA Rallycross. It's like autocross, but on dirt. There's also RallySprint, which is closer to stage rally but requires a cage, unlike Rallycross which can be done in street cars.
The race car is usually transported in a camion (due to keep it safe and in the lack of license plate). Thus, competitors arrive with a whole team having a bunch of backup parts, tools etc. Drivers have time to pee, poop while the staff prepare the vehicle for the next challenge. Yes, this sport is expensive..
Recce is when you can look at all the stages and make notes at low speed in a street car prior to the race. Shakedown is after recce, it's is one full hot stage that you can use to test the car, make sure everything is ready to go, and get some last minute practice at high speed. You can usually run shakedown multiple times if you want or skip it completely, and sometimes you're allowed to take media or sponsors for a ride in the passenger seat (with proper helmets and everything).
probably a dumb question, but if rally cars need to be street legal, then how can they have 5-/6-point harnesses? aren't those harnesses usually not DOT approved? are there even any DOT-approved harnesses? explanations welcomed, thanks
It sounds like to me that the transit is almost a rally in and of itself--think like the SCCA Road Rally events. You are limited to a certain time that you have to arrive and you have to follow traffic laws, which means the good drivers and co-drivers would definitely plan for a good average time and adapt to a possible change of plans (I mean, what if the road is suddenly closed due to accidents or an act of God or whatever). And this is definitely not something that you would discern playing rally sims.
You guys are talking this too literal. He was using these times as examples so you get the big picture. The main point here is that the whole queue of cars is separated by 1 min from each other, that way there is no accumulation of traffic at the atc and mtc and during transits. There are 3 different "0" cars that pass before the first car too ("000", "00" & "0") along with other support traffic
Gas stations are very likely sprinkled along the transit routes. Given you have a little extra time available, you can use this extra time to stop at a station and get Gas.
I'm not entirely sure, but some wrc cars run special racing fuel, and therefore cannot refuel at regular gas stations. I thought also they were only allowed to refuel during service, that way they cannot run lighter cars and gain advantage, but not 100% sure about this
Well on the ERC over here the declare it as Parc Ferme. All the cars on the city park. same happens after the rally ends before they are called 1 by 1 to the podium
The difference is that park expose is an actual parking lot/ facility,/ place where you can show off the machines, kinda like a catwalk for the cars, so that the public and media can take photos etc. While park ferme is more like a stage or state of the rally. That means when cars enter "park ferme" conditions there is no work allowed to be done to the car. For example on a two day rally usually you have a certain amount of ss and service times, after the last ss then you go into the last service for that day that is a certain amount of time. After the time is up for that service stage the car enters into "park ferme", goes to the mtc at a predetermined time like before and is usually parked in a garage along with rest of the competitors and they are locked with no access from crew until the next morning or whenever the schedule says. This is done so that crew don't have to thiem overnight on cars. The point of the rally is also endurance, so if drive recklessly during ss you cannot get extra time for repairs. I hope this makes sense
watching this video makes me nervous for a rally i'm never even going to enter.
in fact, why am i even watching this?
great video anyway!
Exactly my feeling. I even try to plan in my mind when and where I can go potty
Same, and I don't even own a car XD
Do not be nervous ! It is a teamwork with the codriver and is a awesome experience !
I would be nervous if I had to participate in the Rally Greece.
Imagine how difficult it must be in transit from one stage to another, following the road book and interpreting the traffic signs of the highways and routes in Greece, which will surely be written in Greek!
I love these vids. I'll probably never rally personally but I love Wyatt's teaching and straightforward way of explaining.
My one gripe would be that you should use a clip-on mike for your audio. Would bump up your quality about 10x and add to the "professional" feel of the videos.
Also, I figured everyone made their own notebooks for the rally. Guess it makes sense that the organizers would provide one.
spmil999 Like he said in the video centered around the notes, in some places they give everyone the same book and they use the recce to see it and adjust them to make the most sense to the driver. Other times, they will probably give you the blank book and the team has to fill it out themselves.
I love these videos with the specifics about rallys. Please keep them coming
Didn’t have a clue until now! Thanks Wyatt! Keep it coming! Richard
another great education clip! thank you!!!
Thanks for the great video !!
Love the videos. Most likely attending the school next summer to start to get my license. I would love it if you guys could make a video explaining some if the different jobs there are in rally and how you guys became instructors/co-drivers, tech's, or even drivers themselves. Thx keep up the good work
Thanks, and we look forward to seeing you up here! We need to get deeper into some of those "careers in motorsports" videos for sure. Stay tuned, we might know some folks that can make it happen!
Thank you so much guys for posting this I hopefully someday I can come to your school and do a few classes but I've watched every video multiple times I might be co-driving in the Ohio Forest rally based purely on what I've learned from you so God bless you sir
Thank you so much for this video. Planning on doing our very first rally end of September this year. This was super helpful and answered some questions I had. Can't wait to get out there and give it a wack! Keep up the great content 🙌
Muy buena explicacion ! Los miro desde Cordoba, Argentina. Aqui tuvimos por casi 40 años al WRC y is a awesome event !!!
Tambien tenemos campeonatos nacionales y estatales de muy buen nivel, y esto que explicas es tal cual !!!
Muy buen video !
Felicitaciones !
Awesome info I'm new so this was extremely helpful!
I love when Wyatt goes "Hey guys, quick video" and then you check the time and its like 25 to 35 min video. Fuck yes! Bring on more of these, wish there was a rally spot like this over here. We have international championships but no schools or practice places.
aNd ThAt'S a WoNdErFuL tHiNg
Great video haha, I laughed everytime you said "you go screaming through the woods and over the valley and through the bridges"
That's wonderful!
Can you do vid on how the finances / Business side of rally work? For e.g. Expenses / Potential profits etc?
This is really lots of helpful information. Do you have any video regarding strategies and suspension tuning and tire choosing for different rally? Also, could you please recommend 1 or 2 video rally games? I started to play Collin McRae rally decades ago and now playing Dirt Rally 2 on PS4 with a Logitech G29 set-up, I am trying to enjoy it more by understanding rally. Is there any other good rally games? Big thank you!
Excellent!
Answered my question; When are the cars released, how often etc...
Thanks for the video. Very helpful. My next question would be how would repairs and issues on a stage works? Say I get a flat tire on a stage, what’s the proper way to change it? Do I find a certain area to pull off too? Will cars still be barreling past me?
And same thing if my car has a major issue that immobilizes it, how do I get it out? Do I wait for everyone to finish running the stage?
Sorry for the long paragraphs but you guys are super helpful
If you have a problem on stage, just find the safest place you can to pull over, then every rally car has to have 3 emergency triangles in it... You have to run back and put the emergency triangles up (same side of road) so that the next cars will see them and they'll slow down to go around you safely. Also the last page of every route book is an OK sign that you show to the other cars to let them know there's not a medical emergency. Once you have your triangles and OK sign, fix your car if you can. If you can't fix it, after the last rally car goes through, you'll see the "sweep" trucks and they'll tow you out at least to a main road, cell signal, sometimes back to service if possible.
If you are broken down but want to stay in the race, you CAN NOT call your service crew to come help you, this is "illegal service" and will disqualify you. You can beg / borrow / buy any tools or parts you need from other competitors... pull into a parts store... get help from spectators... wave down a tool truck... anything you want, but if someone sees your service crew helping you out, you'll have some explaining to do when you get to the end!
Interesting! I did not know that one. Thanks!!
great job boss......I wish i will be there very soon in the rally.......so damn carzy about all of it.....
doing Rally..is the only the only thing i dreamed about the very first day i started driving viz. 1993.....and now being 34/35 i have about 27 yrs. of driving experience........anyhow.....plz ping me in case u can help me with anything alongwith such lessons on rally............thnx a lot once again......a lot to write/tell ...but let see bdw.....
Do you even need a co driver? Is there no tech that can just call out those notes at the right gps coordinates?
Great vid!
I got a little bit of info at the school and won my very first rally. My second race wasnt as good. I came in 14th....lol. 3rd race I was 8th and my last rally I came in 4th. That was 2 yrs ago. I haven't raced since. I guess I just wanted to get it out of my system then lost interest. I'm starting to.get into off road truck racing now. Whether or not I get to race is yet to be seen. I said all this to tell you that I did get some useful info here at the school and I absolutely suggest you do a school Whether its this one or one of the others. One thing I will tell you is everyone (including me) says it looks easy. I assure you it's not. I came in very lucky many times. Luck plays alot more in rally then other races.
You have not counted the adrenaline you feel when you finish a stage and you have to make some light fix in the car and you consume time of the allotted transit time. Then they have to hurry to get to the next stage but respecting all traffic laws ... and let's not mention if there is heavy traffic on the routes !!!
There the adventure becomes more interesting !!!
MTC should be 9.44 :-)
How do you figure out a car, crew & codriver?
What sort of penalties are incurred for showing up to ATC or MTC early / late? Does it really matter for your overall performance / score, or is it just something that helps the organizers keep everything running smoothly?
You are given penalties for BOTH arriving early or late to atc&mtc, usually adding extra time to your overall time. That way your transit is controlled, you have just enough time to drive from state to stage in a safe manner, and also you don't have any extra time to work (refuel or change tires, try to fix car damageon) in you car outside of service.
Amazing info however some questions remain unanswered. If it's 2 days do you even sleep in between? What'll happen when you get off track or damage your car or, god beware injure yourself, beyond repair? What if you get lost while driving between the stages and won't show up in time on the next stage? Disqualified?
Yes, you need to sleep becouse racing days usually start early and last all day long. Damages to your car you can fix them yourself on the stage or on the road sections, but after a number of stages in the day all cars go back to the service park to refuel, get repairs, setup changes to the car, tyres change. After all that they go back racing on the next stages. If you are late at Time Control you'll get a penalty.
Also you get a time penalty if you are early at Time Control. Becouse you are supposed to respect road speed limit on the road sections.
When does one poop? If you are in Service and need fuel, where do you get the fuel from...or parts should the car break...or tires, or whatever else? How does one go about practicing rally racing? Is rally school the only option for that sort of thing?
God I want to do this so badly, but the initial investment is pretty severe...can one rent/lease a rally car (particularly a cheap one)?
Are you in the US? Check out SCCA Rallycross. It's like autocross, but on dirt. There's also RallySprint, which is closer to stage rally but requires a cage, unlike Rallycross which can be done in street cars.
The race car is usually transported in a camion (due to keep it safe and in the lack of license plate). Thus, competitors arrive with a whole team having a bunch of backup parts, tools etc. Drivers have time to pee, poop while the staff prepare the vehicle for the next challenge.
Yes, this sport is expensive..
Don't rally cars have to be street legal (have a license plate, etc) because the transit is done on open public roads mixed with regular real traffic?
StalePhish It depends on what type of racing you are doing but yes, most of the time you need to have a license plate.
Rally cars all have license plates
Recce is the same as Shakedown?
Recce is when you can look at all the stages and make notes at low speed in a street car prior to the race. Shakedown is after recce, it's is one full hot stage that you can use to test the car, make sure everything is ready to go, and get some last minute practice at high speed. You can usually run shakedown multiple times if you want or skip it completely, and sometimes you're allowed to take media or sponsors for a ride in the passenger seat (with proper helmets and everything).
probably a dumb question, but if rally cars need to be street legal, then how can they have 5-/6-point harnesses? aren't those harnesses usually not DOT approved? are there even any DOT-approved harnesses? explanations welcomed, thanks
In the USA you can put them in your self mug manufacturers are not allowed to make vehicles with them or there considered race cars
I really want to rally in the future!
To bad I can only afford kei cars.
At least you can afford cars
😢
You should start from TSD rallies or Regularity rallies.
Lol Wyatt need to be a CZcams celebrity mans craismic
if the first driver leaves at 9.00 it means 45th driver starts at 9.44
It's 2AM and i don't even own a car.
5:18
am i the only one creeped by the fly humming next to the mic ?
the mic, how about the screen? Look at me
It sounds like to me that the transit is almost a rally in and of itself--think like the SCCA Road Rally events. You are limited to a certain time that you have to arrive and you have to follow traffic laws, which means the good drivers and co-drivers would definitely plan for a good average time and adapt to a possible change of plans (I mean, what if the road is suddenly closed due to accidents or an act of God or whatever).
And this is definitely not something that you would discern playing rally sims.
16:45 always good to have some extra cash in the car for bribe money? Always good to buy back a couple of extra seconds ;)
Parc Expose is actually Parc Fermé
Parc Expose at the beginning of the rally you can still work on the car... You don't have a timecard yet so technically the rally hasn't begun.
@@Teamoneilrally
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parc_fermé#:~:text=Parc%20fermé%2C%20literally%20meaning%20"closed,-%20and%20sometimes%20pre-race.
MOST OF THOSE ARENT WONDERFUL THINGS 😂😂
15:30 dirt rally in a nutshell
When do you sleep? :D
Thats what im wondering
If the first car was out of the first MTC at 09:00, then the 45th car would be out at 09:44, not 09:45.
JB Lewis the struggles at 20:24 though hehe, good thing you dont have to math when you race
usually the first car out of MTC is not the first competitor, it is car 0. The top seeded car would be at 9:01.
Only on paper should the zero car be out of the mtc at minute zero. In reality, they should be further ahead of the competitors than that.
You guys are talking this too literal. He was using these times as examples so you get the big picture. The main point here is that the whole queue of cars is separated by 1 min from each other, that way there is no accumulation of traffic at the atc and mtc and during transits. There are 3 different "0" cars that pass before the first car too ("000", "00" & "0") along with other support traffic
Did Samir watched this?
What about gas ⛽️
Gas stations are very likely sprinkled along the transit routes. Given you have a little extra time available, you can use this extra time to stop at a station and get Gas.
I'm not entirely sure, but some wrc cars run special racing fuel, and therefore cannot refuel at regular gas stations. I thought also they were only allowed to refuel during service, that way they cannot run lighter cars and gain advantage, but not 100% sure about this
@@Sokeresa sometimes they have fuelstations for the rallye.
Oh crap, I was just the 666th like
Never heard "parc exposé" just "parc fermer" its the same, just never heard the term exposé. Makes more sense tbh
not the same... fermer is closed area where vehicles are put so nobody could do any modifications before the race
Well on the ERC over here the declare it as Parc Ferme. All the cars on the city park. same happens after the rally ends before they are called 1 by 1 to the podium
The difference is that park expose is an actual parking lot/ facility,/ place where you can show off the machines, kinda like a catwalk for the cars, so that the public and media can take photos etc. While park ferme is more like a stage or state of the rally. That means when cars enter "park ferme" conditions there is no work allowed to be done to the car. For example on a two day rally usually you have a certain amount of ss and service times, after the last ss then you go into the last service for that day that is a certain amount of time. After the time is up for that service stage the car enters into "park ferme", goes to the mtc at a predetermined time like before and is usually parked in a garage along with rest of the competitors and they are locked with no access from crew until the next morning or whenever the schedule says. This is done so that crew don't have to thiem overnight on cars. The point of the rally is also endurance, so if drive recklessly during ss you cannot get extra time for repairs. I hope this makes sense
Quick video? Lol
His hair looks a little bit like the lollipop that fell on the carpet and then got picked up
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