How Good Is John Cena's Chinese? - Chinese Teacher Analyzes John Cena's Chinese
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- čas přidán 8. 12. 2022
- Move to 05:50 If you don’t know why the following sentences that John Cena said were incorrect.
1. 你会变成成功。nǐ huì biànchéng chénggōng - You will become successful.
2. 我不知道关于这个。wǒ bù zhīdào guānyú zhè gè - I don’t know about this.
3. 我必须告诉你，…. wǒ bìxū gàosu nǐ - I have to tell you
4. 看到《Bumblebee》 - kàndào “Bumblebee” - Watch “Bumblebee”
5. 差不多一样冰淇淋。- chà bù duō yíyàng bīngqílín - just like ice-cream
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I don't speak a single word of chinese, but his confidence and the clear work he puts into the language really is inspiring!
Yeah it's deeply inspiring. Let me go take a shit.
@@dracula1980 I’m the Taco Bell employee who prepared your food. I made sure to put extra hot sauce and laxatives in it so that you would need to take a shit.
he is an arse kisser. Any one in the USA who takes up for China should be deported. Country treat their people like animals.
@@mikejones5364 Ok I guess no one should be allowed to learn any foreign languages anymore because the human rights records of certain governments are not the best. Do you realise how stupid that sounds.
@@bourbon2242 I don't care what language he pick up, I just said he is an China arse kisser. This goes back when he was kissing their arse after he called Taiwan a country and kissed up to China.
In English, we don't say "consider about" - "consider" is always a transitive verb and takes a direct object. For example, "I will consider this solution" or "You should consider what to say at the meeting". "Discuss about" is uncommon, usually "discuss" also takes a direct object.
Thank you:)
Came here to say the same. Iwill say I have heard so many extremely fluent non-natives say discuss about and consider about while living in Europe that I began to doubt my native senses after a while. But yeah, no "about" needed, they are false analogies from "think about" and "talk about".
Im one of those non native speaker saying that 💀 thank you so much for this though i'll keep it in mind!
What about the usage of consider in "Consider this:"?
@@thelonelyislands1 In "consider this:", "this" is the direct object
I'm never going to judge somebody's English if it's their second language. I remember how much trouble German gave me as a native English speaker, and German is very similar to English.
I didn't know John Cena actually spoke Chinese. I thought he was just parroting what someone else was saying, or just trying to read it phonetically.
He made a whole video apologizing that Taiwan is a country.
I teach English in Taiwan... I judge a lot because they have major problems learning new ideas about learning English. I've done it for a long time and still have no idea what they think "learning English" means. People get mad if you ask them to read books, or have a conversation, or write, or uh... Anything...
They want to sit there passively and be lectured to, I guess, but all the bosses will push you to make the classes like 50% output, when realistically many students are willing to do about..... 0%, to maybe 2-5% output .. of course with a few people who want 100% output...
Their grammar sucks even after attending my class for years... Why...? Because they just do whatever they want and don't listen to a damn thing you teach. They have some idea in their head AND WONT SHARE IT WITH ME about what "learning English" means.
Locals here will tell me "oh just stop trying to help them and give them what they want". Okay... But what do they want? Not listening, not speaking not reading and not writing.... Uh... Uh.... Do you see a problem with that??????
I just focus on people that will deal with me and ignore the rest but many schools essentially require 100% of everyone to love you and if one small thing isn't to their satisfaction you're out on the street. By the way nobody will tell you what that thing was or what they actually want.
In other words, the English learning system here is utter trash.
oh german, yea im german and english is my second language but im trying to study japanese and chinese aswell im rly fascinated by asian languages but tbh german is a difficult language to learn
oh yeah, asian languages is it's own league. I am Asian American, and english is my second language but because I was raised in the US and live with only english speaking people my whole life I am most proficient at english. I failed Japanese so horribly that it's not even a joke the symbols, word structures, etc is completely different from romance/germanic languages. Funnily enough alot of asian say the opposite about romance/germanic languages because it's so different from Asian languages.
You can still point it out to help them improve and not look ignorant to others. Could it not be considered a disservice?
Of all the John Cena mandarin critiques I've seen this one is probably the most useful.
I'm Singaporean Chinese. Honestly Cena's Mandarin is impressive. Yes the tones were all over the place, but I understood everything he said. Oddly this also tells me that tonality is actually not as important as one might think. This should be good news for English native speakers learning Mandarin.
bro, thats because we know chinese and we automatically fill it in for him. but yes, he is very impressive.
9 y/o me would never believe I'm now learning mandarin from john cena at 21💀
Me too😂
You are so gentle and encouraging about John Cena's Mandarin. You give constructive praise and I love you mentioning things he could improve, rather than saying he got stuff wrong! That is so much less dispiriting, and it's encouraging to hear, as a student! 谢谢你!
Outsiders usually see patterns in a language that native speakers cannot see because "it's always been like that". Outsiders that really dig into a language and have their heart set on not only learning but living it will play with the language a lot because it's fun. I have a friend who does that with russian and his russian friends say the same things as you do in this video. They don't understand the logic.
Yes, and it's a problem sometimes. It's caused by lack of input. You need a ton of input before you can be very successful with output.
I do it too though.
it makes learning the second language harder (at least in a fluent level) but it also helps you understand your own language better! learning a second language made me rethink the logic of my native one as well
@@JapaneseModernist yes, this is one of the reasons why I love learning languages
John Cena is great, the way he does not fear to speak such a different language is really inspiring.
I don’t speak Chinese but I’m studying another language and fluency is so difficult for me. My brain cannot process how to put grammar patterns together when speaking and it sucks because I can understand what others are saying but I can’t respond well😭envious of how fast he can speak
Keep practicing and you'll get there! Focus on productive practice (speaking and writing in slow paced, comfortable environments) and you'll surprise yourself
I've been learning Japanese for the past 9 months and it is definitely a two-steps-forward, one-step-back process, mostly because there is SO much to remember! My best advice at my low level is to be patient and just keep reviewing and reviewing, and also, get a teacher on iTalki or somewhere similar, because it helps tremendously to have a native speaker help you out.
@@flashgordon6510 ty for the response, I’m learning Japanese as well! It’s been about 3 years since i started studying but i hope that i’m able to improve more with my speaking as time goes on 😭
@@kahlilbt thank you for the encouragement!!
Fluency is heavily influenced by consuming content, you just need to engage in more listening of the language, you brain will naturally work on giving you a natural sense of how to say things. Speaking practice somewhat helps as well but nothing beats listening to audio when you want to speak more naturally;
I appreciate that this vid isn't as condescending and rude as some other ppl I've seen commenting on his mandarin.
From all I've seen he's a good guy who is just really proud of his language journey and happy with how far he's come.
As someone learning languages it can be a little disheartening to see him clowned on so much.
This is the most positive comment I've on seen on this video so far.
Yeah his Chinese is way way better than mine, so it's discouraging to see when people make fun of him.
it's because he's John Cena and that makes it funny if it was a random people wouldn't be criticizing so much
@@bluemoonefl3503 i see...
Actually, regarding the "___ about" verb phrases, even in English you do not use the word "about" in some of the cases you mentioned. Specifically you don't say "discuss about" or "consider about", you just say "discuss" or "consider"
Probably a Chinese habit
討論關於 = discuss about
考慮關於 = consider about
Maybe so, in which case, "talk about" and "think about" would be more apt
I’ve heard discuss about. But never consider about
I have too but I think generally discuss takes a direct object. Like we’re going to discuss dogs. Versus we’re going to discuss about dogs. I’m not entirely sure “discuss about” is grammatically incorrect, and any native speaker would know what you mean. However it’s definitely not necessary to have about be attached to it as it is implied that the discussion will be about the then said. So saying discuss about is kind of like saying discuss about about to native speakers. I have never heard consider about used by anyone though native or not.
The fact that he's even trying and so far ahead of most learners is admirable. Keep it up John.
I'm an ESL teacher and have been working with students from various Asian countries. I admire that your taking the time to say each word and sentence slowly but clearly and with emphasis when speaking in English. Youd make me a proud teacher.
Before John Cena spoke Chinese I was a fan of him as an international superstar in WWE. About less than 3 years ago I wasn't aware of it when one I was on CZcams where John Cena he was in China for tourism and eating food. It shocked me! However I love to learn how to speak like him but before Cena's Chinese speaking trending came out my uncle living next door to me spoke Chinese Mandarin when he was 10 or 15 years old. We're Mexicans and he spoke the language for 5 years working with the Chinese in the delivery business in upstate New York. To this day he speaks fluently and I love it! I didn't need a tutor so his knowledge I learned a few from my uncle. It's hard to keep up but practice is key for anything. Thanks for this video.
I am seriously very impressed by him.
He speaks it as well as your average Chinese student speaks and writes English in the states.
Google: How to improve Chinese grammar with celebrities.
Bing: chilling.
😂😂😂
虽然我是美国人，出生在美国，但我认为约翰·塞纳的中文不错，但他需要更多练习，你是对的，我在他之前学了普通话。 我是2003年学的。现在我33岁了。这段视频太棒了，新年快乐
He speaks Chinese better than I do.
And I’m Chinese.
哈哈 ， 我2003年学的中文, 我还会说 7 种其他语言。
10:14 this caught Toby Fox with translating Undertale to Japanese, he had a character use a really backwoods version of "Hey" or something to that effect and Japanese artists went wild drawing the character as a farmer in overalls.
Like someone in America saying "Oi!", where are you from, literally nobody talks like that here.
When you consider that John Cena didn't have to learn Chinese but did so to help bring American culture to China, I do think it's quite commendable.
his chinese is so dramatic i love it
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Really enjoyed this video! Made me LOL.
I only wish there was a slightly longer pause in between your example sentences, so I have time to repeat after you at least 1 time.
At least he is doing his best! Learning a second language is harder than you think
Shuo, I've watched a few of your videos and I like your style. I've been studying Mandarin for a few months now and although I know I'm getting better, I have no one to practice with. I've been concerned about getting the tones right, but I've heard you and a few others say it's not as critical as we think. That is actually quite comforting for me because I am learning in order to be able to speak to my daughter in law and twin granddaughters in their native language.
When I listen to John Cena here, I hear his American accent right away. I speak German, and I used to cringe when I heard the "stereotypical American accent" in German - it made me think, "would you like fries with that?" ;-) But I like how you point out the good things you hear from him, and your comments are constructive, so yes, it encourages me too. And by the same token, as you readily admit, Shuo, your English isn't perfect, but I have no issues understanding you. If I can someday speak Mandarin HALF as well as you speak English, I'll know I've done pretty well!! 謝謝, tack så mycket, vielen Dank, и спасибо! -Tim
Great video! This is very helpful as usual 老师！Particularly in the 冰淇淋 video, it sounds like he's trying to speak with a Japanese anime accent while using Chinese words, not sure if that makes sense. Like it reminds me when some of my college classmates would try to speak Japanese in an anime style in our class, when Japanese people don't talk like that. The difference here being those students were being foolish thinking that's how Japan is, while for John Cena it's accidental, I highly doubt that's his intention.
I really respect him, he's a nice guy and he's put in a lot of work, it's not perfect, but the effort and determination is there.
I just want to say first that i love this analysis of john cenas chinese! I am trying to learn chinese since quarantine and your channel is definitely one i am going to use more frequently now. I saw in this video that you are allowing corrections to be made for your english so i thing id like to to point out is the way you say “what i want to do” at 7:02 is correct but for a more natural accent i would replace the ‘t’s with ‘d’s like “whad i wanna do” that way it would sound a little more natural. ❤
Or in a British accent the t is likely to be replaced with a glottal stop
I've got a question about tones in different kinds of sentences. In English a tone can change a sentence from a statement, to a question, to a command, to a sarcastic remark. But i find it tricky to do that in Mandarin, especially when it is a command that ends with a 2nd tone, of a question that ends with a 1st or 4th tone. Perhaps if i could get an answer specifically about tones of characters interplaying with the tone(?) of the whole sentence, that would be nice.
um can i get an example of that? i cant think of one right now but we usually would see the speaker's facial exppressions and how loud they are speaking to know what they are trying to tell us. sorry if i missed the point
Generally Chinese speakers do not impart many 'sentence tone changes' in speaking. For example, the characteristic raising of pitch at the end of question statements is completely omitted in Chinese--you have to decipher with the A not A structure or the 吗 particle whether it is a question or not. Hope this helped a little
Yes normally there would be 吗 at the end for a question but if there isn’t or you just want to sound excited, you just raise the tone of the entire word. Think of it like parallels, you’re not changing the tone to one of the other four tones, you’re just saying the same tone in a higher voice. Hope that helps!
As a native speaker let me try to explain how things kind of work in my head for these sorts of things. Please note that what I'm about to say is purely from my own experience, and shouldn't be taken as absolute fact, but hopefully can be helpful.
First thing I want to touch on is that because the particle system exists in Chinese and not so much in English, Chinese kind of has a "tone marker" for a sentence that removes some of the need for meaning-changing tone. For the sake of this comment, I'll only use the example of asking a question. In English, if you wanted to ask a statement as a question, you might go "up" in tone towards the end. Think the sentence "You went there." vs. "You went there?". In Chinese, because we have the 吗 particle at the end of a sentence that indicates a question, this change in tone isn't required to differentiate the two sometimes, and leads to less use of tone in changing the meaning. (Think 你去了那里 vs 你去了那里吗)
The problem comes when Chinese does the same thing as English where they convert a statement into a question without adding a question particle. I would also assume this is what you are talking about specifically. The answer to this question is basically what I would refer to as a "macrotone" (please note this is not official terminology, just something that I named in my head based on how it kind of works). Essentially, the tonal system in Chinese (and I presume many other tonal languages) has a lot of leeway in terms of the general tone of a sentence compared to the tone of an individual character. Note that this macrotone is what you're talking about that exists in English, where the tone difference of a sentence changes the meaning. Essentially, certain parts of a sentence might be generally higher or lower while maintaining the same relative tone within individual characters. This is kind of complicated, so let me give an example:
我们去(wo3 men qu4), which means We'll go, or We go. If we speak this sentence like a textbook might ask us to, it has the definition as mentioned earlier. "We will go". Let's say we're in a situation where you ask a friend who is going, and they say we will go, and you want to question that, you might reply with 我们去? (We're going?), exactly like you might might do it in English, though now we have to worry about the tone of the whole sentence. You would still raise the ending of the sentence like you do in English, but the tones of the individual characters have to be taken into account. In this case, the 去 is higher, but still has a falling tone. As long as things are relatively the same within the character, it's recognizable as fourth tone, despite the fact that you have shifted the entire character "higher". Both the start and end of the "fall" in 去 are higher.
Please note that the above example is not applicable to everything or every sentence. In the same way that it would take a long time to really "understand" how to formulate differences in sentence tone in English, the same goes for Chinese. If we were to go with a longer sentence, you would need to put emphasis/raise/lower certain characters in a sentence to give the same effect, and this is probably best learned by speaking to native speakers and picking up on their sentence cadence and intonation when they talk.
How much difference in tone from "standard" you can have with every sound and character varies, and how little or much you need to enunciate the character tones in Chinese is something that you won't be able to learn through anything but speaking and listening. It's just a skill that's particularly hard in Chinese because non-native speakers already have trouble with tones, let alone trying to slightly modify tones while keeping it understandable.
Final particles are also important for conveying tone, e.g. le 了, ne 呢, ba 吧, o 哦, a 啊, la 啦, ya 呀
I love your English! Your pronunciation and grammar is on point! You even almost have the American English cadence down! Very impressive!
I think one problem lots of chinese learners have is the tones, like āáăà bcs they straight away start learning the words and phrases which is a big mistake. Im half chinese and when I atarted learning chinese as a toddler i remember studying and practicing a lot on just the 4 tones because without them you will not be able to differentiate much between words.
This was super interesting and relevant. Excellent video, thanks!
Funny thing is, John Cena still calls it 速度與激情9 when he promotes it in Taiwan where its called 玩命關頭9 over there. 😂😂😂
I love your style of videos and can tell I'd love you as a teacher.
1:08 i nearly never searched john cena or really long ago and he wasnt recommended to me on youtube but after youtube saw this the John Cena Mandarin Compilation video showed up as a suggested video
The algorithm sent this video my way, but I wanted to say I really enjoyed listening to you speak, especially your cadence :)
The only reason I know about him speaking Chinese is when he apologized to the Chinese government for acknowledging Taiwan.
John Cena sitting at home rn, frantically taking notes...while enjoying some sweet sweet bing chilling.
He certainly doesn't get bothered with tones
Not funny 😐 all I see is floating ice cream cone 😁 ( John Cena joke)
Was looking for this comment haha 🫣
哈哈哈，我也喜欢冰淇淋！老师您的视频真好看哦。
omg i‘m obsessed with your videos
The fact that he took the time to learn this is already commendable. I don't think I'd be willing to spend time to learn this brutally difficult language
Will it help if i tell you asian cuties are some of the worlds best?
My current squeeze is what any white guy would call hot, but back home she would just be in the 70% 🤣
@@jessicaregina1956 tf
I started chinese on duolingo, yes indeed it can be brutal lol but I keep going and am so excited to be going out of my confortzone and learning and lovely channels like hers and the channel Rose and Anzai help me get exposed to hearing the language
So much fun! Thanks for sharing.
3:59 Haha, that expression I know from early teenage-hood. It's literally a standard phrase from Age of Empires (3). It's also not too hard to get the tones right.
I'm now a John Cena fan. I love learning languages, I didn't know he was learning Chinese too.
It's an interesting video, speaking volume on how idiomatic grammar, from our native language, influence the way we form sentences in the second language. To be able to replace them by their foreign equivalent is one of the last stages before mastery. As a french guy, I still sometimes make up weird expressions puzzling my English speaking listeners.
"I'm not going to name all of his mistakes" *proceeds to name all of his mistakes* LOL
This is such a helpful video!!
Are your videos on Bilibili or other Chinese social media? I would love to send this video to my Chinese [mainland] students. I've explained these same points to them before (use new vocab as much as possible in different situations/sentences; you can use Chinese words when you don't know/can't remember the English; don't be afraid to make mistakes), and I think it would help drive these points home to send them a link they can access. Thank you so much--I love your videos ❤
Hi! Thank you for making the effort to teach Chinese students English! I don’t have any channels on Chinese social media, but I think you can use some tools to download videos from CZcams.
I see you've used my interview with John Cena in this video.Thanks for the mention; oh wait...
I sent you an email and a Weibo message! Did you see them 😃
我觉得他的“老干妈” 的故事不是没有听过或者完全不知道老干妈是什么的意思， 我觉得他想说 "I don't know much about 老干妈" 这个much很重要，因为他有可能听说过，有可能知道， 但也不太熟悉这个东西。 麻烦你后面拍视频解释一下那个可以用“关于”的语境吗？ 我还不太懂哈哈哈 谢谢老师！
You are my favorite teacher Shuo Shuo
So helpful! 谢谢！
我也学习中文。谢谢为视频，老师！
yes good vid I am finding perfect is not needed even with all those mandarin tones to be understood. Comprehension for me has always been the battle in any foreign language. Once I decided to ignore tones the whole mandarin challenge became more (not completely ) like learning any European language.
Well, if you chose to ignore the tones, you are guaranteed to fail.
I have started learning Mandarin on Duolingo and they have recently included the tones seperately so idk if you can practise them from the start, but the option is there after several chapters.
It’s really cute that he’s trying, makes me want to try too!
good video!!!!! 👍🍦视频非常棒，就像冰淇淋！！！！！
谢谢您，我学到了很多。
NOOOOOO THAT MESSENGER RINGTONE HAHSHDHD
trolled me so hard
("trolled" is an internet slang/expression for being fooled)
otherwise, very entertaining and informative video :D
I like how he is learning chinese
its cool
Apart from the mistake with 一样you mentioned, he also said和冰淇淋，速度与激情9我最喜欢， ，which is using most with than. I like fast and furious 9 most than ice cream. I think he should have used 更:more. As far as Pronunciation is concerned, he said 但是danshi: but like电视dianshi: TV and 音乐yinyue: music like因为yinwei: because. It's like hearing: TV I most like fast and furious 9, and: now it's because time.
Ho..wow..that's how "been chilling" started. I just figured it out
辛苦你了！
In fact, discuss and consider are words that English speakers would not use about with either! Steven Oinker has a chapter about transitive/intransitive verbs in his book The Stuff of Thought, and I think the reason “talk” gets an about is probably because the mental image of talk in an English speaker’s mind is directional, like words leave my mouth and go in the direction of you. Whereas discuss and consider are words that don’t have that directionality, I can’t discuss without you being present and also being part of the discussion. (Just a guess)
Excellent good videos
had to comment here just because of biànchéng - I'm german and we use "bekommen" as "to get something". Basically every german that learned english fell for that at least once. Instead of "I get a sandwich" or something like that, we say "I become a sandwich". It's so funny that learning other languages have basically the same false friends due to the way we speak casually. Love it
veru very useful 谢谢 👏👏👏
I will now never forget the word "Bingqilin" as long as I live.
My Vietnamese friend references this meme a lot! This video helps me understand it more 😁🤣
Thanks
I'm now being chillin' just as 冰淇淋〜
This synthwave Bing Chilling thumbnail is legendary
🥶🥶
Pretty much like machine-translated script. Still my family love him. I personally hope to watch the second season of Peacemaker. And my son hopes to see him back in the ring.
How would you do the sentence "I'll ask if it's there." or "I don't know if she has it or not."? I always translate literally and use if 如果 for sentences like this but I feel like it may be unnatural.
Can I say 我不知道這個在不在 or maybe 我不知道她有?
This is a really good video.
the important thing is to getting the meassage across and John Cena has done a good job at it and with more pratice he could get better and better with it...
This is such an interesting video. Wonder if you're open for suggestion, can you evaluate Ten's chinese? He's a kpop artist from WayV.
His Chinese is lousy af.
remember the SECRET IS ( to be chilling ) and that's it
you forgot to mention the most direct way of saying "I have to say..." which is simply 告诉你
I'll call him Jiao Xina from now on.
I can't believe you made an ytp of Zhong Xina calling you
John Cena is somewhere between a beginner and an intermediate learner who's reasonably functional in the language but hasn't quite mastered the grammar and definitely needs to improve his vocab. He's knowingly making the very common mistake of literally translating what he's trying to say from English into Chinese word for word, without adjusting word order or accounting for appropriate word choice, which makes what he's saying understandable but very strange. But his pronunciation is not so bad.
zhong xina's chinese is so good he became a chinese citizen
for a moment there i thought my mom was calling
scared the crap out of me
Your English is better than that of 99.9% of Americans. Um..and you're beautiful, too. Happy New Year!
He who dares, wins!
John Cena's brain works fast and furious (9)
I watched the entire video even tho the only Chinese I know is bing chilling.
so thats where that sample comes from..thanks
I find Mandarin grammar be easily comparable to English in most cases. My problem is mastering the tones and, of course, the Hanzi.
8:02 dude, the first european who learned mandarin and was tasked to make a way to write it in roman letter was AN ABSOLUTE TROLL
I can imagine some medieval silk trade white guy going "lol ima use the fkking R letter to represent the J sound"
What did you do to get put on the naughty step ?
Sometimes it is not the language nor the culture. He is projecting coolness to speak the language in his own way. No matter what new languages we go through, they take a lot of time and to have the guts to speak to the natives. In addition, there are many different kinds of natives and dialects. For the coolness, he got a A plus and attracted a number of followers. He had achieved his goals from the capitalism point of view. Being fluent and speak like natives, you need to be in that native country for a number of years. A good teacher is a plus
BEEN CHILLING 🥶
Bing Chilling & Sosial Credit Score is the best China meme 😅
You kept showing a video of a hovering ice cream cone. What was that about?
Jonh Cena can rap btw, pretty good as well