@@kyleshenberger8937 best car. Civic type r is better, yaris gr, golf r, supra, mustang gt. All better cars, not the same price but that's not what he said.
I Fucking love my DCT. 2k miles in two weeks. It makes me giggle every time I get behind the wheel and honestly it gets so much more positive attention than I expected…
I have never gotten so much positive feedback on a car----everyone is commenting on it all the time.....it seems to confirm that the only haters are on-line lol.
100%. Gets honestly a ton of great attention and comments. The best is the "what the fuck is that thing??" after a session on track when I passed whatever corvette or mustang.
So I think he misspoke a bit there, but let's dive in regardless. Firstly, let's be clear that dealerships want to do warranty work. They get compensation for the parts, tech time, and administration fees from the OE when they complete a warranty claim. Where this gets muddy is that at any time the OE can deny compensation from a warranty job because of modifications ( if they look in to it). This leaves the dealership to eat all of the costs, which is generally why there's a large difference between dealerships that are willing to accept a larger margin of risk when it comes to completing warranty work on modified cars. Secondly, make no mistake, if a catastrophic failure occurs and it's modified you are likely paying for it. That's fine, I can accept the small risk - this is a cheap hyundai not a Porsche. Again, if you're too scared of getting warranty claims denied, do not modify your car. Simple as that.
@@williamrori1274 that last paragraph is the cold, hard truth❗️ That said I'm waiting a year to see how these tunes do in all weather conditions as I'm in Chicagoland parked outside 24/7. If it all pans out, when I go to the Tail of the Dragon again, my 20th straight year next year, I'll drive the extra 3.5 hrs and get my car dyno tuned by them and then head to my Dragon run😎...stay "tuned"!
My guess about that random sticker on the left of the dash… I believe it was meant to be an extra small performance readout but due to chip shortages Hyundai cut it out. That OR it’s specifically meant for suction phone mounts. Or in a future iteration it will be a hybrid/AWD readout
I’ve owned my EN for a week now. I’ve taken a lot of people around for quick rides (not beating the engine up in the first 1000kms). My favourite part is ripping around a corkscrew on ramp at 100kph and scaring the shit out of my passengers. I have had more excited car guys giving me thumbs up than over the two years I had a straight piped, flame-spitting, stutututu-sounding, Saab 95
The soft touch upper dash comment at 3:57 had my dying cuz you’re absolutely right. People get bought in to “needing” premium quality in areas that make no sense at all.
there is a tuner here in Puerto Rico getting ~400hp out of any of the Hyundai N vehicles. Pretty crazy. There is currently a Kona N with extensive mods pulling 463hp. (custom downpipes, takeda intake, some other takeda stuff, better fuel pump, etc)
I'm additionally addressing things you "touch" in the EN by adding the "Alcantara triplets" this Friday, the dealership is replacing the handbrake with an Alcantara covered one, as well as the shiftknob/boot and armrest, both Alcantara and all 3 have the powder blue stitching as well👍👍👍
@@keiserious hear yah but I've got the DCT, so I don't have to touch it day in, day out. I'll set it once a month💡 My buddy is trying to get me to get the steering wheel...NO WAY IN HELL on a DD😳 I'm very anal with keeping my car clean, I've already used the Colourlock kit on my seat and door panel inserts and treated the "triplets" twice over now, I'm up to the challenge😇🙏
Nice video! I just purchased a Veloster N and so far I'm loving it! I drove it from CA to VA last week and its really fun out on the open road. I do like some of the interior upgrades the Elantra has mainly the doors and the dash.
I agree , just purchased a VN dct coming from a frs and Miata (I’m getting old ) the tech of the diff and safety features make you a worse driver . The car practically drives itself but at the same time it’s so precise and confidence inspiring at any speed you should do on the streets . It can handle the track too all stock.
I think it’s the perfect daily driver honestly. Would be good to keep a miata as a weekend track toy to improve on driving skills but this car seems like it would just be pure fun with minimal risk all day long
As a tuned 2012 kia optima sx owner people hated the hyundai/kia brand an now that they made performance version now there jumping the wagon. Other than that you have an amazing car an also looks like you're enjoying the car. Great content sir. 👍
@@cali6648 yes sir.. i had an 09 Civic Si sedan with full bolt-ons an tuned with hondata flash-pro an thing was quick all motor. An yes the Optima is jus perfect till on 2016 the factory detuned the HP on the 2.0t engine other than that im enjoy mu car since bought brand new.
Incase you didnt know, with manual N cars (and the DCT to some extent), if you rev out the car in 2nd or third gear and let off at high rpms to get some insane exhaust cracks you can just barely tap the gas pedal and it will keep backfiring. I found this out with my VN a year or so ago. Im sure this isnt new info, but hey figured someone might not know lol
Nice video and great narrative. I bought a Ceramic White one with the DCT in July and am loving every mile driving it. I like it so much I just put a deposit down yesterday on a Cyber Grey with the MT and will be selling my Civic Si. Was saving for a new Civic Type R, but with the insane markups I think the Hyundai is a way better value and probably close to the CTR in performance. Besides, the Civics don't sound anything like the 'N' cars. So now I'll have two in the near future. It doesn't get better than that. I'll look for more of your videos in the future guys.
Love the elantra n, and agree with a lot of this. You're also right about the auto rev match and making it easier to drive. On the flip side, i think people should prioritize becoming better drivers as well.
I finally saw one in the metal. Haven’t driven it yet, but they are mighty impressive. I’m looking forward to test driving one. My current wheels are the first BRZ and Skoda Octavia RS
I've never driven a manual, always felt too daunting. DCT deliveries keep getting pushed* back tho so hopefully in the next couple weeks il have my first manual car.
It's only "daunting" if your in traffic all the time, don't sweat it! My EN is an 8 spd DCT because it's the only brand new N car they had besides the Veloster N which was supposed to be the car I was buying but the internet sales person didn't know what the F they had because it was a RED 6 spd, NOT the Perf Blue 6 spd like I was told. Moral of the story here and it's been my mantra for quite some time..."everything happens for a reason" and in this case it's really true because I love my EN. I know I would've loved the VN as I drove one 120 miles from Helen GA to Decatur TN on back roads and open highways, I was hooked right then and there😎
@@klasseact6663 yeah il figure it out n be happy either way. I'd prefer the easier faster dct but once I learn it il feel pretty smug about it. And once the warrantee is nearing it's end and I hit my mid life crisis, it will open up some opportunities for cool cars
I bought a manual car without knowing how to drive one. My friend drove it home for me. Taught me that night. Getting out of first is the hardest part once you get used to it, it’s second nature.
@@B1eardog tip of the cap for taking the plunge and getting a manual, it's really great😉 Additionally what a GREAT first manual car, mine was a 2000 Ford Contour SVT.
These cars are awesome! I'm a bigger guy and had to buy a 23 Sonata N line with 2.5 turbo. You need to go try one they start at 290hp and 311tq. The one thing I wish it had is the E lsd!
Own a 2022 Veloster N, have driven the Kona N. These cars are absolutely the best performers for the $ spent. Can’t wait to drive the Elantra N. I traded my 2019 KIA GTS Stinger for my Veloster N. In no way disappointed.
The Elantra N is a better car. It's on a newer platform, has a far better interior, and is actually lighter spec-for-spec. I've driven both and I'd take the Elantra for everything other than the front end/side styling, which is where the i30N is much nicer.
What I will say is these sound even better with a full exhaust. Been watching some Ben lovrien content the sxth downpipe video. 10/10 would try to tune a gti or mk7r exhaust to sound like these. I'd steal these seats for a golf as well the gti and golf r should have had seats like these. And you're right you can't beat the warranty
I have a Kona N--wait till its cold out--below 55 these n products will probably make that stock--especially if you open the valve exhaust all the way.Car and driver just got a 4.8 to 60 in the new Kona N.I also owned a stinger for a while and also ran better then magazine times in it at the public drag--4.2 to 60 and 12.7 in the quarter in a 2020 AWD GT Stinger with an exhaust only--computer traction on and powerbraked it from 2500.Hoping to do a 12.9 or 13 in my kona in early november during public drag night.
Always appreciate your vids. Nice seeing you go for a drive, take the back roads and smile while giving your input. I would ask two questions: 1) Are you street driving in N Mode or N custom mode with some different tune settings? 2) You talked about Hyundai's Warranty. With the mods you done, how confident are you that they wont void warranty because you added mods to the car. While reading the warranty section, it suggests warranty can be voided if any mods are done and I'm sure Hyundai will make claims that the reason for any failure will be directed to the mods, etc. Perhaps you can talk about that a bit during your next vid or just your initial thoughts on that.
Hyundai's warranty is very specific, you can modify your car, but warranty will not cover non OEM parts that are damaged, and if an OEM part (stock block for example) is damaged and the damage can be found as a result of modifying, your warranty is voided) Like Paul said above, you can swap ECU's with ease (only takes about 15 minutes max) and bring your car to the dealership, but if you plan on putting on power, get a better turbo (the elantra N turbo) and swap the rods in the motor to BC's Forged rods which can handle boost better than stock.
I know I can wear a helmet in a Veloster but need to try it in a Kona and Elantra. Kona’s are more easily available so I think there’s a better chance of getting one for MSRP. Also, I’m 6’7” so I need to compare them all to see which one fits me better. I’m not crazy about the Elantra styling but I am interested in the most track worthy model.
the N line has a knob for drivemodes on that plastic circle. with already redundant drive moden buttons and the N buttons on wheel it would've been too much. they should have used it for something though
This video is old but I have to say I own a mk5 jetta and an en and I find it really cool that those are both in your driveway too lol also that circle on the left of the gauge cluster is where the drive mode button is on the n-line
Nice car, love almost everything about it. We were on the market with my son for his first sporty/everyday car, but in the end we bought the 2022 MK8 Gti "S" with DSG in King's Red. Amazing vehicle....wish VW did not ship the car with retarded ALL season tires. It neuters the GTi big time. Put quality track tires and it handles/ accelerates like nobody's business.
Any info on what the stock clutch and the stock internals can handle. I previously owned a s280/port injection fiesta st that probably made 380whp. Went to a q50 after it blew up and am bored out of my mind. This car intrigues me.
As a Velo N owner the only issue Ive seen with SXTH element is they do this very foolish thing where they tune the electronic throttle to go full 100% when you're only pressing the pedal at 30%, it makes daily driving substantially worse for most people (I have 3 other friends with Velo N's who all have shared the same sentiment) SXTH refuses to acknowledge that it's their doing, and they say "all N's act like this stock" (newsflash, they don't) If you do tune, dont cheap out with a JB4, go straight to LAP3 who has a much more all around driveable tune. If you do have a Veloster N and you do plan on getting power, get the Turbo from the Elantra N as it's a substantially better build with higher boost yield, power output, and is less likely to shatter like the fragile turbo that comes stock. I've tracked 3 times so far with my veloster N, and honestly stock it doesn't need much more, but for power, get the elantra N turbo, don't bother with the stock turbo as it's too problematic. Thanks for reading this if you did and hopefully I helped someone out. (BTW, velo N has the same seats for 2021/2022, and the same crackles and pops)
How many people have had this issue? I’ve had 7-8 different tune revisions from SXTH and all of them have cleaned up the slop in the stock throttle table 🤔
There is no "throttle map" that does this. We don't change the throttle mapping at all actually, just torque requests 😁 The throttle position at 30% throttle would be....30% throttle.
That circle thing next to the digital gauge cluster is actually just a left over piece from the lower model cars. In the N-Line model that circle is actually a drive mode button you press to change it to sport, comfort etc. But in the N Performance cars they don’t need it as they have a N steering wheel button. Hope that helps
veloster is still my pick, even though the elantra has the nicer interior and slightly larger turbo. i just like smaller vehicles and prefer a hatch to a trunk. 300whp though, nice!
I drove both EN & KN. The EN is more refine. The KN & VN are more hard-core track machines. Try it it and you will see what I mean. That made me pick the KN over the EN.
Would appreciate a video on why you chose sxth over lap3 for the tune. Trying to learn which is better. Is there a stage 2 SXTH? Lap3 has achieved 400hp.
Did you keep the bracing piece in the trunk out or put it back in for track? Does it make a noticeable difference? Also does the tune void the warranty? Thanks!
Keep in mind there's no such thing as a blanket "voided" warranty. But yes, there's a good chance that a tune could result in a denied warranty claim. If you're worried about warranty claims, best play it safe and stay stock.
It would be nice to rip on a car and not have to worry about breaking something like the transmission (my 02 bugeye is pushing 300whp and the 5 speeds don't really like that much power lol)
does tuning it make it unreliable at all or will it not affect that? Looking into the elantra n as a daily with a lil bit of speed and wanna add more eventually with the tune
This just like high school everyone hating on the new kid. Everything esle on the market cost 10k more n up. Yeah theres a wrx... yeah the civic si similar price range but this has way more features than both those i mentioned together
As a DCT Veloster N owner, I drove the a Elantra N DCT and I preferred my Veloster. I could feel the difference in handling and acceleration. You may not feel the difference because of the tune but that same tune could be applied to a Veloster and it would make both cars faster in general. I felt the Elantra had a softer suspension slightly which to me was more desirable. Veloster N is still too stiff.
I feel ya my sisters N order came in before mine did now I’m thinking of canceling my N since she already has one kinda thinking gr Corolla if it does exist
Hyundai has major engine issues. Look it up. I bought the new Kona N regardless. Lol I would love to modify it, but I think pushing this engine will most likely ruin the engine within a couple of years. Be very careful. If the engine blows, you are out $$$$$.
That's where I'm at. Wanted the elantra but got in a bunch and needed a car and bought the Kona. Im just going for exterior and track mods first and then do power mods in a few years
These are my street/light track set. I have another set of 18x9.5's that I keep for competition use. But yeah, I daily these wheels and swap on the OE for storage in the winter (I have another winter car).
Do you have a concern regarding the increased power on the transmission? I have the DCT and this is the only thing holding me back purchasing the tune.
Nobody really knows. It's too new to really understand what a tune does. It's got the same engine as the veloster that has been tuned before but the turbo is bigger so not exactly the same. I may tune mine after a couple years. That warranty is so good to lose tho...
The DCT can handle more than the Manual to most people's knowledge. In the arizona scene we have 2 veloster N's pushing large power 1 on e35 with an Elantra N turbo, full bolt-ons, and a Sleeved motor, the trans has no issues and another on e85 with a larger turbo pushing close to 440 (fully built block) with the stock transmission, no grind, no gear lockouts, everything is fine The DCT is predicted to be able to handle 650 or so, which is unnecessary on this platform because after 400hp the car honestly becomes a torque steer problem and the drivability is horribly reduced. Keep it around 330-350
@@LmaoZeroGN wow dude, finally the response I wanted to hear. You just sold me, thank you! I’m just getting stage 1 from Sxth, only thing holding me back was the effects on the 8 speed DCT so this is what I wanted to hear.
For street driving only? Honestly no. Michelin P4S's and ContiExtreme Contact Sports are a much better street tire. That being said, they are both pretty slow on track and the Michelins like to disintegrate during light track use. So if you're looking for a dual duty tire with an emphasis on track, the RT660's are a great option.
I may have misspoken about the warranty bit, I've literally never had a warranty with my old crusty cars. Just ignore that bit sorry hahaha
Best car on the market?? There's heaps of cars that are better.
@@davothegreat9990 Elaborate if you would
@@kyleshenberger8937 best car. Civic type r is better, yaris gr, golf r, supra, mustang gt. All better cars, not the same price but that's not what he said.
@@davothegreat9990 Fair enough. More accurate would be one of the best in this class/price range. Not bad for $35k though
@@davothegreat9990 Golf R is a boring soulless car compared to this. It's also way more expensive. It's nowhere near as fun.
I Fucking love my DCT. 2k miles in two weeks.
It makes me giggle every time I get behind the wheel and honestly it gets so much more positive attention than I expected…
I have never gotten so much positive feedback on a car----everyone is commenting on it all the time.....it seems to confirm that the only haters are on-line lol.
100%. Gets honestly a ton of great attention and comments. The best is the "what the fuck is that thing??" after a session on track when I passed whatever corvette or mustang.
The manual is soooo much better. Not everyone is a driving enthusiast though. Some people are just enthusiasts of quarter mile times.
@@Cynthesis21 right
@@williamrori1274 I had 7 people stop me the first day and say nice car what is that thing? "AN ELANTRA" LOL
9:09 "Even if it explodes, 10 year warranty!" Not when the dealers sees you adding performance modifications lol
So I think he misspoke a bit there, but let's dive in regardless.
Firstly, let's be clear that dealerships want to do warranty work. They get compensation for the parts, tech time, and administration fees from the OE when they complete a warranty claim. Where this gets muddy is that at any time the OE can deny compensation from a warranty job because of modifications ( if they look in to it). This leaves the dealership to eat all of the costs, which is generally why there's a large difference between dealerships that are willing to accept a larger margin of risk when it comes to completing warranty work on modified cars.
Secondly, make no mistake, if a catastrophic failure occurs and it's modified you are likely paying for it. That's fine, I can accept the small risk - this is a cheap hyundai not a Porsche. Again, if you're too scared of getting warranty claims denied, do not modify your car. Simple as that.
Tune should be reversible, idk if mounts would void it though
@@jamega4000 Keep in mind there's no such thing as a voided warranty. You can, however, have specific warranty claims denied because of modifications.
@@williamrori1274 that last paragraph is the cold, hard truth❗️ That said I'm waiting a year to see how these tunes do in all weather conditions as I'm in Chicagoland parked outside 24/7.
If it all pans out, when I go to the Tail of the Dragon again, my 20th straight year next year, I'll drive the extra 3.5 hrs and get my car dyno tuned by them and then head to my Dragon run😎...stay "tuned"!
They swap ecu completely in these cars so theoretically the dealer would never be able to tell if you put the stock ecu back in 🤷🏻♂️
My guess about that random sticker on the left of the dash… I believe it was meant to be an extra small performance readout but due to chip shortages Hyundai cut it out. That OR it’s specifically meant for suction phone mounts. Or in a future iteration it will be a hybrid/AWD readout
Is for the Nline variant for drive mode selection if I heard correctly
Yeah it was for the n-line not then n 😅
I’ve owned my EN for a week now. I’ve taken a lot of people around for quick rides (not beating the engine up in the first 1000kms). My favourite part is ripping around a corkscrew on ramp at 100kph and scaring the shit out of my passengers. I have had more excited car guys giving me thumbs up than over the two years I had a straight piped, flame-spitting, stutututu-sounding, Saab 95
the seats are very supportive. they whispers you sweet words as you drive fast
The soft touch upper dash comment at 3:57 had my dying cuz you’re absolutely right. People get bought in to “needing” premium quality in areas that make no sense at all.
there is a tuner here in Puerto Rico getting ~400hp out of any of the Hyundai N vehicles. Pretty crazy. There is currently a Kona N with extensive mods pulling 463hp. (custom downpipes, takeda intake, some other takeda stuff, better fuel pump, etc)
I'm additionally addressing things you "touch" in the EN by adding the "Alcantara triplets" this Friday, the dealership is replacing the handbrake with an Alcantara covered one, as well as the shiftknob/boot and armrest, both Alcantara and all 3 have the powder blue stitching as well👍👍👍
Alcantara is nice but on handbrake is not ideal just like on a steering wheel.
@@keiserious hear yah but I've got the DCT, so I don't have to touch it day in, day out. I'll set it once a month💡 My buddy is trying to get me to get the steering wheel...NO WAY IN HELL on a DD😳 I'm very anal with keeping my car clean, I've already used the Colourlock kit on my seat and door panel inserts and treated the "triplets" twice over now, I'm up to the challenge😇🙏
Nice video! I just purchased a Veloster N and so far I'm loving it! I drove it from CA to VA last week and its really fun out on the open road. I do like some of the interior upgrades the Elantra has mainly the doors and the dash.
I've made that drive as well in my VN with my dad. Honestly a very fun long distance trip car. Only complaint was the seats are hard to sleep in lmao
@@C33_Taylor Oh yeah its impossible to sleep in.
I agree , just purchased a VN dct coming from a frs and Miata (I’m getting old ) the tech of the diff and safety features make you a worse driver . The car practically drives itself but at the same time it’s so precise and confidence inspiring at any speed you should do on the streets . It can handle the track too all stock.
I think it’s the perfect daily driver honestly. Would be good to keep a miata as a weekend track toy to improve on driving skills but this car seems like it would just be pure fun with minimal risk all day long
As a tuned 2012 kia optima sx owner people hated the hyundai/kia brand an now that they made performance version now there jumping the wagon. Other than that you have an amazing car an also looks like you're enjoying the car. Great content sir. 👍
aye same car. Car is 10 years old, but I still love it. Perfect amount of "sportiness" for me.
@@cali6648 yes sir.. i had an 09 Civic Si sedan with full bolt-ons an tuned with hondata flash-pro an thing was quick all motor. An yes the Optima is jus perfect till on 2016 the factory detuned the HP on the 2.0t engine other than that im enjoy mu car since bought brand new.
People still love to hate hyundai kia lmao they hate that hyundai N is killing it
@@kingGfour you only see that shit online though, in person it’s a different story when I pull in
Tbh I’ll admit I never duck with Kia/Hyundai but so far the only cars that I think are great looking is Elantra and k5 . But that new N vision 74 tho🤯
Incase you didnt know, with manual N cars (and the DCT to some extent), if you rev out the car in 2nd or third gear and let off at high rpms to get some insane exhaust cracks you can just barely tap the gas pedal and it will keep backfiring. I found this out with my VN a year or so ago. Im sure this isnt new info, but hey figured someone might not know lol
Nice video and great narrative. I bought a Ceramic White one with the DCT in July and am loving every mile driving it. I like it so much I just put a deposit down yesterday on a Cyber Grey with the MT and will be selling my Civic Si. Was saving for a new Civic Type R, but with the insane markups I think the Hyundai is a way better value and probably close to the CTR in performance. Besides, the Civics don't sound anything like the 'N' cars. So now I'll have two in the near future. It doesn't get better than that. I'll look for more of your videos in the future guys.
The DCT is better than the manual lol why would you swap?
@@mharro88 I kept the DCT so now I two N’s. One manual and one DCT. Best of both worlds.
@@paulziegler8505 lol if you've got money to burn why not.
Love the elantra n, and agree with a lot of this. You're also right about the auto rev match and making it easier to drive. On the flip side, i think people should prioritize becoming better drivers as well.
I just got my 2024 EN three days ago. Loving it!! (Cyber Grey with DCT)
I finally saw one in the metal. Haven’t driven it yet, but they are mighty impressive. I’m looking forward to test driving one. My current wheels are the first BRZ and Skoda Octavia RS
i love first gen brz
Veloster n is probably the most fun car i have driven, can't wait to try the Elantra next month
I've never driven a manual, always felt too daunting. DCT deliveries keep getting pushed* back tho so hopefully in the next couple weeks il have my first manual car.
It's only "daunting" if your in traffic all the time, don't sweat it! My EN is an 8 spd DCT because it's the only brand new N car they had besides the Veloster N which was supposed to be the car I was buying but the internet sales person didn't know what the F they had because it was a RED 6 spd, NOT the Perf Blue 6 spd like I was told. Moral of the story here and it's been my mantra for quite some time..."everything happens for a reason" and in this case it's really true because I love my EN. I know I would've loved the VN as I drove one 120 miles from Helen GA to Decatur TN on back roads and open highways, I was hooked right then and there😎
@@klasseact6663 yeah il figure it out n be happy either way. I'd prefer the easier faster dct but once I learn it il feel pretty smug about it. And once the warrantee is nearing it's end and I hit my mid life crisis, it will open up some opportunities for cool cars
@@bidtles not sure how old you are but by the time you hit your "mid life" crisis THIS could be a "cool car"👍😉💯
I bought a manual car without knowing how to drive one. My friend drove it home for me. Taught me that night. Getting out of first is the hardest part once you get used to it, it’s second nature.
@@B1eardog tip of the cap for taking the plunge and getting a manual, it's really great😉 Additionally what a GREAT first manual car, mine was a 2000 Ford Contour SVT.
Bigger car doesn’t = better, the hatchback is still more practical. And IMO the i30 is by far the best looking N car
They should sell it in the US. I’d buy one over the four door.
As much as I love SXTH for mods, LAP3 is the notorious tuner out there. I would advise to give their ecu tune a try and watch your life change.
These cars are awesome! I'm a bigger guy and had to buy a 23 Sonata N line with 2.5 turbo. You need to go try one they start at 290hp and 311tq. The one thing I wish it had is the E lsd!
Cannot wait to get my hands on the wheels of this thing. Ordered mine with DCT in Cyber Gray here in Australia 🇦🇺
i have one on order with DCT in white also in aus :)
regret not going for cyber grey as the more i see them the more i like it
Own a 2022 Veloster N, have driven the Kona N. These cars are absolutely the best performers for the $ spent. Can’t wait to drive the Elantra N. I traded my 2019 KIA GTS Stinger for my Veloster N.
In no way disappointed.
If only Hyundai can bring the i30N to the states. That would be a big seller
The Elantra N is a better car. It's on a newer platform, has a far better interior, and is actually lighter spec-for-spec.
I've driven both and I'd take the Elantra for everything other than the front end/side styling, which is where the i30N is much nicer.
The i30 is the Elantra in America
@@mastersonic707 i30 Sedan N = Elantra N, i30N hatch isn't sold in North America.
I love this car. I got the 22 WRX. But I am so excited to see future models of this
Honestly cant wait im getting into mine in September
4:25 It fits perfectly when you mount track timers. Garmin mount
What I will say is these sound even better with a full exhaust. Been watching some Ben lovrien content the sxth downpipe video. 10/10 would try to tune a gti or mk7r exhaust to sound like these. I'd steal these seats for a golf as well the gti and golf r should have had seats like these. And you're right you can't beat the warranty
Holy hell that thing rips!!
I love the wheels you chose. Makes the car look so good! 😽
I have a Kona N--wait till its cold out--below 55 these n products will probably make that stock--especially if you open the valve exhaust all the way.Car and driver just got a 4.8 to 60 in the new Kona N.I also owned a stinger for a while and also ran better then magazine times in it at the public drag--4.2 to 60 and 12.7 in the quarter in a 2020 AWD GT Stinger with an exhaust only--computer traction on and powerbraked it from 2500.Hoping to do a 12.9 or 13 in my kona in early november during public drag night.
I recently drove the Kona N line 2022 and all I have to say that it drives amazing 👏
Always appreciate your vids. Nice seeing you go for a drive, take the back roads and smile while giving your input. I would ask two questions:
1) Are you street driving in N Mode or N custom mode with some different tune settings?
2) You talked about Hyundai's Warranty. With the mods you done, how confident are you that they wont void warranty because you added mods to the car. While reading the warranty section, it suggests warranty can be voided if any mods are done and I'm sure Hyundai will make claims that the reason for any failure will be directed to the mods, etc. Perhaps you can talk about that a bit during your next vid or just your initial thoughts on that.
He Voided warranty just making this video.
@@myshootingstarvn5037 the SXTH tune comes on a new ECU. You can swap your stock ECU back in and it should be mostly undetectable by the dealership.
Hyundai's warranty is very specific, you can modify your car, but warranty will not cover non OEM parts that are damaged, and if an OEM part (stock block for example) is damaged and the damage can be found as a result of modifying, your warranty is voided)
Like Paul said above, you can swap ECU's with ease (only takes about 15 minutes max) and bring your car to the dealership, but if you plan on putting on power, get a better turbo (the elantra N turbo) and swap the rods in the motor to BC's Forged rods which can handle boost better than stock.
I know I can wear a helmet in a Veloster but need to try it in a Kona and Elantra. Kona’s are more easily available so I think there’s a better chance of getting one for MSRP. Also, I’m 6’7” so I need to compare them all to see which one fits me better. I’m not crazy about the Elantra styling but I am interested in the most track worthy model.
Every car should look and sound this food!
Good stuff I ordered 2023 white Elantra N been waiting for a month in a half can't wait to get it and the goal is 400 wheel and it is possible
For the first time I spotted one in Rhode Island! In person it's a sexy looking car!
the N line has a knob for drivemodes on that plastic circle. with already redundant drive moden buttons and the N buttons on wheel it would've been too much. they should have used it for something though
its a great spot to stick your magnetic phone holder
Every time I look down I'm doing 150 kmph. Its ridiculous how easy it is to drive
Really great video...thanks for posting. Super informative and well explained.
that circle, in the N line it is the drive mode selection. it shares the dash and therefore has that part too
Keep the content coming 💯💯🏎🏎🏎
This thing is insane. All you have done is the tune? Are you concerned tuning will void the warranty?
This video is old but I have to say I own a mk5 jetta and an en and I find it really cool that those are both in your driveway too lol also that circle on the left of the gauge cluster is where the drive mode button is on the n-line
I have a veloster N. If you swap an elantra N turbo onto a VN you can get an easy 350+ hp. Of course heat exchangers would need an upgrade.
Nice car, love almost everything about it. We were on the market with my son for his first sporty/everyday car, but in the end we bought the 2022 MK8 Gti "S" with DSG in King's Red. Amazing vehicle....wish VW did not ship the car with retarded ALL season tires. It neuters the GTi big time. Put quality track tires and it handles/ accelerates like nobody's business.
Any info on what the stock clutch and the stock internals can handle. I previously owned a s280/port injection fiesta st that probably made 380whp. Went to a q50 after it blew up and am bored out of my mind. This car intrigues me.
As a Velo N owner the only issue Ive seen with SXTH element is they do this very foolish thing where they tune the electronic throttle to go full 100% when you're only pressing the pedal at 30%, it makes daily driving substantially worse for most people (I have 3 other friends with Velo N's who all have shared the same sentiment)
SXTH refuses to acknowledge that it's their doing, and they say "all N's act like this stock" (newsflash, they don't)
If you do tune, dont cheap out with a JB4, go straight to LAP3 who has a much more all around driveable tune.
If you do have a Veloster N and you do plan on getting power, get the Turbo from the Elantra N as it's a substantially better build with higher boost yield, power output, and is less likely to shatter like the fragile turbo that comes stock.
I've tracked 3 times so far with my veloster N, and honestly stock it doesn't need much more, but for power, get the elantra N turbo, don't bother with the stock turbo as it's too problematic. Thanks for reading this if you did and hopefully I helped someone out.
(BTW, velo N has the same seats for 2021/2022, and the same crackles and pops)
How many people have had this issue? I’ve had 7-8 different tune revisions from SXTH and all of them have cleaned up the slop in the stock throttle table 🤔
@@BurningPhyr i know 3 people personally in our car group locally who have had the same issue
There is no "throttle map" that does this. We don't change the throttle mapping at all actually, just torque requests 😁 The throttle position at 30% throttle would be....30% throttle.
That circle thing next to the digital gauge cluster is actually just a left over piece from the lower model cars. In the N-Line model that circle is actually a drive mode button you press to change it to sport, comfort etc. But in the N Performance cars they don’t need it as they have a N steering wheel button. Hope that helps
veloster is still my pick, even though the elantra has the nicer interior and slightly larger turbo. i just like smaller vehicles and prefer a hatch to a trunk. 300whp though, nice!
Great vid! And yep, its also a hot hatch - I have the i30N hatch with the DCT.
I drove both EN & KN. The EN is more refine. The KN & VN are more hard-core track machines.
Try it it and you will see what I mean.
That made me pick the KN over the EN.
Totally Worth the money
The white circle with dash mark in it is a a red push button for drive mode in the N-Line models
What % tints do you have on this? Especially the windshield?
hey please can you provide the lithium battery link for same exact model please so i can get those 30lb weight reduction
Great videos on your EN! One quick question about the tune. Has it affected the fuel economy? Have you guys tracked that at all?
Should compare side by side a built Elantra N to a discontinued built accord 2.0t.
On the N line that weird thing to the left is the drive mode button
That’s right baby save the manuals
Would appreciate a video on why you chose sxth over lap3 for the tune. Trying to learn which is better. Is there a stage 2 SXTH? Lap3 has achieved 400hp.
I think when they do the update to the system the random screen will be a fingerprint reader. I saw it on the 2024 Sonata N Line.
I wish they made this car in a coupe, then I would be all over this.
Cough cough Hyundai genesis coupe
Did you keep the bracing piece in the trunk out or put it back in for track? Does it make a noticeable difference? Also does the tune void the warranty? Thanks!
Im guessing the tune voided out the warranty?? If not that is totally kick arse
Keep in mind there's no such thing as a blanket "voided" warranty. But yes, there's a good chance that a tune could result in a denied warranty claim. If you're worried about warranty claims, best play it safe and stay stock.
Best car ever..
It would be nice to rip on a car and not have to worry about breaking something like the transmission (my 02 bugeye is pushing 300whp and the 5 speeds don't really like that much power lol)
4:20 that is used as a drive mode button and the Elantra N Line but I guess they decided to not use it on the N
does tuning it make it unreliable at all or will it not affect that? Looking into the elantra n as a daily with a lil bit of speed and wanna add more eventually with the tune
It does sound nice!
팝콘 사운드가 정말 일품입니다 ㅋㅋㅋ 한국인인게 자랑스럽네요~ 그래도 되죠?!
This just like high school everyone hating on the new kid. Everything esle on the market cost 10k more n up. Yeah theres a wrx... yeah the civic si similar price range but this has way more features than both those i mentioned together
Makes me wanna sell my Infiniti for one but I love the vq if I ever get a 2nd car this one will be my daily for sure
@11:00 my pads squeal constantly and you know what the dealers did? They handed me a TSIB saying it's as designed. I have a KONA N.
lmao "the a/c rips"
Brother, we're used to Volkswagens where the A/C basically does nothing
Does the 10 year warranty void if the stock tune is flashed?
As a DCT Veloster N owner, I drove the a Elantra N DCT and I preferred my Veloster. I could feel the difference in handling and acceleration. You may not feel the difference because of the tune but that same tune could be applied to a Veloster and it would make both cars faster in general. I felt the Elantra had a softer suspension slightly which to me was more desirable. Veloster N is still too stiff.
what gas do you run it the N cuz the website for the ecu says premium is required
I feel ya my sisters N order came in before mine did now I’m thinking of canceling my N since she already has one kinda thinking gr Corolla if it does exist
Hyundai has major engine issues. Look it up. I bought the new Kona N regardless. Lol I would love to modify it, but I think pushing this engine will most likely ruin the engine within a couple of years. Be very careful. If the engine blows, you are out $$$$$.
So does toyota. They just had a huge recall. These things happen and your warranty covers it.
That's where I'm at. Wanted the elantra but got in a bunch and needed a car and bought the Kona. Im just going for exterior and track mods first and then do power mods in a few years
Do the N cars get the same warranty’s as any other car ?
Why didn’t u go with lap3 for the tune ?
Are those tires good for daily driving or should I just leave the stock ones on if I get one or do you recommend some?
Do you do any tracking? If not, go with a good summer tire like the P4S or Conti ExtremeContact Sports.
It’s to bad Hyundai is neglecting the Veloster N as it’s a coupe sports car that looks cool and Hyundai could market it more and get more sales.
Did you need to put in 5w-40 oil?
Does the Stage 1 tune void the warranty?
are those tires/wheels you are running fine for daily driving? or do you have another set
These are my street/light track set. I have another set of 18x9.5's that I keep for competition use. But yeah, I daily these wheels and swap on the OE for storage in the winter (I have another winter car).
No 60/40 split no rear seat vents and that odd useless circle spot on front dash display are definitely glaring minuses
the circle is silly but great spot for a phone mount, or the EK1 from sxth like he mentioned he would be getting
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What do you think about the sonata nline?
Do you have a concern regarding the increased power on the transmission? I have the DCT and this is the only thing holding me back purchasing the tune.
Nobody really knows. It's too new to really understand what a tune does. It's got the same engine as the veloster that has been tuned before but the turbo is bigger so not exactly the same. I may tune mine after a couple years. That warranty is so good to lose tho...
the wet dct will take it all day
Bierman has stayed publicly in interviews that the transmission was overbuilt to be durable
The DCT can handle more than the Manual to most people's knowledge. In the arizona scene we have 2 veloster N's pushing large power
1 on e35 with an Elantra N turbo, full bolt-ons, and a Sleeved motor, the trans has no issues
and another on e85 with a larger turbo pushing close to 440 (fully built block) with the stock transmission, no grind, no gear lockouts, everything is fine
The DCT is predicted to be able to handle 650 or so, which is unnecessary on this platform because after 400hp the car honestly becomes a torque steer problem and the drivability is horribly reduced. Keep it around 330-350
@@LmaoZeroGN wow dude, finally the response I wanted to hear. You just sold me, thank you!
I’m just getting stage 1 from Sxth, only thing holding me back was the effects on the 8 speed DCT so this is what I wanted to hear.
Need them to bring the i20 N here to murica
The car looks like a BMW bc it was designed by the same guy who made the M series for BMW :)
Veloster n has shorter wheel base, i would prefer the vn over the en
1/4 mile time with this one tuned?
I wish there was a CARB legal tune for this car. It won't run over 15 lbs. of boost on 91 octane.
Have you done the octane learning? Should hit 18 or so on 91. My Kona N does
@@robertyoung3111 It only works occasionally.
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I'd love to see this vehicle race a IS350. Since they both have a 300 horses
Theres a video on yt on this the EN pulls away
For daily driving RT660 would you recommend them any time?
For street driving only? Honestly no. Michelin P4S's and ContiExtreme Contact Sports are a much better street tire. That being said, they are both pretty slow on track and the Michelins like to disintegrate during light track use. So if you're looking for a dual duty tire with an emphasis on track, the RT660's are a great option.
@@williamrori1274 I appreciate your feedback, thank you