Intro to Fine Art Digital Printing
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Join Hudson Valley landscape photographer and Canson Infinity ambassador Robert Rodriguez Jr in this basic introduction to fine art digital printing. Learn about the art and process of producing a fine art print, including color management, file processing, inkjet technologies, ICC profiling, and paper selections. You'll learn about what makes a great fine art print, the different types of papers available today, and what to look for when choosing a paper for your own work.
As an experienced print maker, Robert will share his expertise and experiences making and selling his own fine art prints in galleries and art shows, as well as which papers he uses and why. He'll also demonstrate his printing workflow using Lightroom 4 and Photoshop. There will also be a Q+A period where your questions about paper, printing, digital workflow, and landscape photography in general can be discussed. - Věda a technologie
Table of contents (roughly) :)
00:00 Intro
11:38 Equipment and software
22:11 Paper
47:20 Colour Management
1:05:39 Resolution
Still very relevant and informative, 7 years later. Thank you!
And one more year after that! Thank you B&H!
@@HoldMyData And two more months after that.
2020 here, we need an updated version of this information! thanks!
A)This information hasn't changed and B) you are a dummy. There's your update.
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2022 👋 someone please help
I've watched countless hours about color management when trying to get my head around it, and I have to say this guy's knowledge is so accurate with everything! Really great job!
Thanks so much, Robert! Perfect timing as I'm just now learning all there is to know about printing, etc. Lots to digest but I think because B&H presents these long tutorials/workshops, I learn so much more.
The feeling of getting a print in your hands is so much more fulfilling than a digital image. I've loved that feeling since I was 5 yrs old getting my snapshots developed at the local pharmacy lol.
I have watched this video twice .. excellent presentation. Thanks Robert, thanks B&H.
Total class act!!! Subscribed to his channel a couple days ago. Very clear, concise, and straight forward. Looking forward to more videos from him, hell, wish I could meet him. Excellent work!!!
Excellent, I loved Roberts speaking & teaching style. He really explained photo inkjet printing clearly. I look forward to watching more of your videos, and putting what I learned into practice on my Canon Pixma Pro Printers.
I really appreciate these in-depth classes that B&H has made available. I have learned so much.
I am watching this video for the first time (November 11, 2020) and am totally blown away by the level of detail and information that is contained in it. Thank you :)
Really a fantastic seminar - I love going through B&H Event Space archives
This was fantastic! Thank you very much for the detailed information. Keep bringing Robert back.
Thanks to B&H for broadcasting this very interesting lecture. I hope I have learnt the lessons Robert was talking about, at the very least I am now more knowledgeable about the whole topic.
Excellent, thorough presentation with loads of info. Particularly enjoyed the bit depth & colour space topics, thanks for uploading!
Most welcome and thank you for watching.
even after 10 years this lecture is very informative - thank You!
that's why we keep them up. glad you enjoyed the video.
Perfect, It was something that was looking for... for a long time, glad I ended up here! Thanks for share.
I needed a refresher since it had been years since I studied digital printing at uni, and this video was more informative than my entire course!
Wonderful, serious explanation of all things printable. Great talk about bit depth, srgb pro rgb etc.
My go-to paper is Canson Baryta Photographique.
Thank you so much. I learnt lots. Hope you do more videos on printing. I love to get more technical about it.
Great video with so much information about printing, even though it is almost 9 years old you still get all relevant information. Aaaaand the Wilhelm-research page still looks the same :)
Glad you like our presentations and thank you for watching.
this is very informative presentation for a beginner like myself. Thank you for putting out such a high quality and instructive video!
Very good intro, nicely done Robert.
There is one detail that I think you may have missed in regards to resolution when it comes to display devices and that is, Pixel Density. Which is not really relevant for printing but it does make a difference when going from a device that has the standard pixel density to one that has a higher density like Retina display devices.
Thanks Robert and B&H for this informative talk!
All that we need to know about this industry, Excellent and congratulations to the expositor.
Brilliant tutorial, thanks for an invaluable insight. Can’t wait for some more tutorials
Very well done. Thank you to Robert and B&H.
Thanks for your suggestion - that's a great idea and we'll pass it along to the Event Space booking staff.
WOW! This guy covers everything about printing! Fabulous; thanks.
Thanks for watching, Mary!
This seminar is very helpful. I am a amateur photographer who is wanting to get the most from my new NIKON camera. I have a Pixma Pro9000 Canon and I was surprised at how accurate the output was right from the start using Canons print driver and paper profiles. It does take a lot of trial and error with the output. Thanks much for sharing your know how and experience.
Finally...just what I have been looking for. All my questions answered in a way that I understand. Thank you B&H.
We're glad to hear this!
the best videos on photography and everything associated with it.
Excellent . I really enjoyed this presentation. I even took notes... Too much to rehash here, but definitely thank you for sharing your experience.
I loved this presentation. It tied so many of the separate aspects together. I would however like to see a presentation using less professional equipment I.e. smaller matt cutter, 13" printers etc. Also would like to hear more about sourcing pre cut mats and glass etc. I love to print and frame ...
excellent video presentation!! I really enjoyed watching such educative piece of video. Digital printing is an important aspect for photographers and this video will be educative for viewers. Thanks.
Thank you for posting this video, it is incredibly helpful.
Most excellent presentation. I learned a lot, though I struggled with "longetivity". It hurt no one corrected him. One hopes that nine years later, he knows longevity is longevity.
Loved this and this was great for people that are serious and really into printing. Really like Robert Rodriguez and follow his youtube channel. He does do a mistake here when explaining Rendering intents, wrongly switches the explanation of each of them, though the presentation figure on the back seems to be correct. An absolute normal distraction for sure. Thank you.
+Kelly Greenidge Everything presented in this workshop is still valid today. Only the mentioned software (Lightroom CC instead of Lightroom 4) and new printers (Epson SureColor P-800 instead of the 3880) have been updated. The printhead technology, color management, color space, etc have not changed.
Steven C
askbh@bandh.com
Nicely done. Effective and informative presentation. Thank you.
I learned so much! Very informative!
thanks for the prompt reply.
i haven't used ink jet for photos yet (only dye-sub so far). might try it out for a change to see what the differences are on different media.
Very informative - well explained .. thank you B&H for this and other great educational videos
So much valuable information in this presentation... Thanks for sharing this!
We’re glad you enjoyed!
Canson Baryta Photographique (spelling?) has the "F" type surface, and it has fantastic definition and separation in black and gray in black & white photos, and colors are also excellent; I always export from Lightroom to Photoshop for resizing & printing as .tif files. I have Photoshop manage the colors in my Canon printer because I like the results better. I haven't tried printing raw files from Lightroom.
Thanks for all the helpful information i got from this.
Really helpful, thanks!
At 1:26:30, the presenter stated that in evaluating the test print any discrepancies could be related to workflow, paper profile, or monitor calibration. I don't recall him mentioning that it could also be the capability of the printer. It could be as simple as changing the blacks used or having a printer incapable of printing certain tones.
Outstanding presentation
thanks for the great stuff. I have learned a lot.
There are numerous printer manufacturers however most are not focused on fine art photo printing and as such they lack the selection of inks, papers and associated ICC profiles. So, as stated it comes down to the three companies mentioned.
Another great video !
Really informative (as per usual from these B&H videos). My only question is at 55 minutes in, shouldn't gray be set to sGray instead of Dot Gain 20%? From what I understand, dot gain 20% is appropriate for cmyk printing; my local print shop suggests using sGray in rgb printing. Then again, maybe it doesn't make a difference in gicleé prints?
so indepth. Will the 3880 be ok for colour graphic work and typography rather than photos?
Very good info - thank you!
very relevant. Thanks!
very helpful thank you.
Several questions:
Does converting from Raw to DNG in LR affect the workflow through the printing process and if so how so (eg color space, calibration, etc.)
When printing b&w does it matter what color space should u be working in (eg SRGB, CMYK, pro) and should you calibrate while viewing in B&W?
When printing infared images is the workflow any different thru the printing procecess (eg ink selection, color space monitor calib printer calibration
When xferring to PS use TIFF or PSD and why?
i will love if you guys have more information abut cmyk ! because when I print my photos of food loses the quality because the print shop want cmyk
I Love your channel !
Does this advice/workshop still apply today with the advance in printing?
interesting talk... i wonder how dye sublimation printing fits into all of this.
Well I guess I live next to this guys studio hahah :) pretty cool
Excellent!!
Thank you so much ❤️
Great video!
However printing from Raw is not the best. There are still a ton of things that can improve an image in Photoshop as a rasterized 16 bit Tiff that will create WAY better results for the output print.
Canson Baryta Photgraphique has fantastic black hold out.
Correct: Editing should be done with the end process as the goal. If your primary goal is a print, then shooting the photo and "post processing" and printing is all one process even if a lab does the printing.
Hello anyone tell me how to add bleeds ?
Great presentation... still valid information in early 2018.
Brilliant!
Excellent talk sir! 👍
Thanks for watching.
I make art from photos but want it look like it’s on real water color paper without gloss like most Walmart or drug store developing. Any suggestion?
mahadragon: Clearly this video was for people who print, like me. It isn't that Robert is out of touch, it's that you are. You really think professional or serious amateur photographers don't print photos? When you step into a photo gallery you see what - blank white walls? You're saying no residential home should have a photo print on the wall anymore because you can look at that same image on an iPad or iPhone? No art school, gallery, home, store, restaurant, cafe, coffee shop, hotel, bar, nightclub, school, hospital, or any institute of any kind, should have a photographic print on their wall because they should only be viewing images on some idiotic electronic device the size of a matchbook, or at its biggest, a computer screen? You mean, that in the year 2014, nobody, and I mean nobody, should dare give a photographic print to any other living human being as a gift merely because they can zip that image over to them on their iPhone with a touch of their thumb, and that embryonic-size image will retain all the same visceral impact as a 20x30 print? Thanks for the education.
NICE WORK
If I take pictures by photo (Android), I hope you can also take a picture. For example, I have a photo taken while driving, it came out very interesting, not affected. I can try to make a picture of it. I'm just waiting for the new Epson Expression Premium XP - 6000 printer. I used Epson before, but XP - 600
Epson also has new heads for their printers and it costs the same as the Canon heads...
You can go from ON1 to Lightroom or Photoshop, but if so, you can't go back and do any editing in ON1 without the image being corrupted. I'm about to give up on ON1.
Hi, i take alot of panoramics. Do you know how i can sign them electronicly ? Thanks
There are many options for adding a signature on a photo. You can scan a copy of your signature, and then in Photoshop remove the background. If you save it in a format that supports transparent backgrounds, you can then superimpose this over your photos. For the best results, you would want to make a TrueType font from your own signature. If you Google "TrueType font signature", you can find software online for this, or companies who offer this service. Christina- askbh@bandh.com
Thanks Gud this is just intro for 115 minutes, imagine how long a walk through would be. Two Weeks ?
Hi Robert
Thank you for the videos. They are great.. can I ask you something.
If I export photos with no size but at 100% quality with dpi of 300 ,are those in good quality to post on web,Instagram,Facebook or would I have to go down with the dpi to 72
And if you shoot portraits or wedding, what size would you convert it to ,for good quality to print and use them online with clients
Thank you
I am using high quality paper including Canson and Moab. My photography is mainly landscape, wildlife and abstract. As soon as I turn on ink and paper simulation during the soft proofing process, my image becomes dull and generally that is how it will print. I install the appropriate ICC and pretty well follow the proper print process with within LR. I've googled this issue and I've come across other folks who have encountered this. The suggested fixes are many and varied with some folks stating that matte paper will always produce a duller print than what is viewed on the monitor. Any comments would be most appreciated.
Thank you for your inquiry. We invite you to contact us directly via our Live Chat feature on the B&H Website so we can go over your options in greater detail. We're available via Live Chat until 8PM ET this evening.
bias to the middle?
They really should stop using those "Keep calm" posters...
HI..I GOT A NEC SPECTRAVIEW MOTITOR AND I HAVE CALIBRATED WITH COLOMUNKI PHOTO AT RGB1998..I SHOOT RAW AND USE ADOBE CAMERA RAW AND PHOTOSHOP FOR EDITING..I TURNED BOTH PROGRAMMS TO THE COLOR PROFILE THAT I HAVE CREATE..SO FAR AM I RIGHT? HAS ANY POINT TO TURN THE PROGRAMMS TO PRO PHOTO?
+Γιώργος Αλεξίου Adobe RGB 1998 was designed (by Adobe Systems, Inc.) to encompass most of the colors achievable on CMYK printers, but by using only RGB primary colors on a device such as your computer display. ProPhoto RGB is just about the widest color space. However, because it is so wide, it can give you all kinds of grief if you don't know exactly what you are doing. For example, if you do not have a full understanding of color space (working spaces in Photoshop), or the differences between sRGB, Adobe RGB and ProPhoto RGB, or a full understand the differences between 8-bit and 16-bit depth, then I highly recommend to not convert or use ProPhoto RGB. It contains many more colors than you can see on any monitor, it even encompasses what can only be termed "theoretical colors" because they're outside the visible color range in the physical world.
The advantages of ProPhoto RGB is that it's the only color space that can contain all the colors your image can capture in raw and all the colors that today's wide gamut printers can print. If you are going to use ProPhoto RGB, you'll need to work on 16-bit images to avoid potential banding.
Also, if you are converting images from a large Color Space like ProPhoto RGB to a smaller one (for example when preparing an image to be CMYK printed commercially) the results can suffer especially when working in 8bit.
Steven C
askbh@bandhphoto.com
I like how he described the misnomer about ppi vs dpi. Then proceeds to use them incorrectly in his discussion. How are we suppose to get across the differences if its constantly used incorrectly! people today are STILL telling people to export at a certain pixel size for said social media platform or websites at 72 ppi. LR should not even have that resolution active unless sizing is in "Inches or cm"
Nebraska Tappin In
Loved this tutorial. One question and or comment. Robert mentioned that sRGB is a small space used for images on the Internet. My Photo Lab Mpix-Pro requires images sent to them to be printed on photographic paper use the sRGB space. If I send them to them, or even Sam's or Walmart as Adobe 98 or Adobe Pro the prints come back off color. I learned this the hard way on clients images I printed at both places. Once I changed to sRGB the color matched my calibrated monitor and the scene as shot with my Nikon D7000.
Dave Cruikshank I don't know your local photo lab, but Walmart really isn't a good benchmark for quality or attention to detail. Most specialist (independent) photo labs will have their own icc profiles they provide. With both my local labs, I have to convert an image to the relevant icc for the print process I want them to perform, then send them my converted image.
I've printed images at 96dpi and at 360dpi, there is very little difference. The printer interpolates up the native resolution very well.
mark y at what size?
Carlos Novoa I tried it at 8x10 inches and also 11x14
Hmm. Thanks for replying.
Carlos Novoa Try a test print and see what you think.
So for an 8x10 you're looking at 768 x 960 pixels? If so, I have done tests like this before. My reasoning was I worked somewhere where I was responsible for data storage and backup and I was trying to convince our users that they didn't need to scan and store at 600dpi.
Anyway, same image at 600, 300, 200 and 150 dpi. There was no discernible difference at 300dpi. 200 was slightly less detailed and 150 was starting to look pretty bad.
So I'm not saying you're wrong, but in my tests, I wouldn't want to print a photo below about 250. 300 ideally for smaller prints. Your mileage may vary of course :)
Ótimo.
Ich habe meine alten Kameras ausgetauscht gegen neue. Nicht dass die neuen viel bessere Qualität abliefern. Es gibt aber so Sachen wie Autofokus, do in keinem Fall die 6D Mark II der alten 5D Mark II haushoch überlegen ist. Vögel Fotografieren ist jetzt viel einfacher. Tja und manchmal muss das ISO hoch und da sieht man den Unterschied aber deutlich.
At one time, dye-sub printers were the benchmark for their continuous tone ability. Ink jet print heads have become so refined that it's almost impossible to distinguish well made Ink Jet prints them from wet traditional prints. The one drawback was the choice of media was limited to the dye-sub printer model.
C h u c k
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DNG is LR's native editing format and a file will be converted to a TIFF or JPEG for printing. B&W printing is best down using a printer with monochrome inks and the printer's driver settings for B&W prints. IR images would be printed the same as regular color. TIFF and PSD files are both uncompressed and only a TIFF file would offer compatibility with non Adobe programs.
C h u c k
askbh{at}bandh{dot}com
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Thanks for a very informative video, I learned a lot!
I wonder what is your opinion on Canson Baryta paper?
This is an excellent fine art archival paper with a pearl finish and a white base. It is very reminiscent of darkroom paper from its thickness and feel.
Most print shops require srgb
looking at this eight years later. I wonder how much of this he would need to change now? Some of this information is now dated but they seem to be about preferences, which may have been justified at the time but are now no longer applicable. That's entirely understandable.
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