Roma in Serbia struggle in squalid living conditions | DW News
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- Houses made of scrap material, no running water, no electricity - if you think it sounds like Texas after a winter storm or a forgotten refugee camp, think again. This describes home for thousands of Roma families across Serbia. Many of them ended up in Serbia two decades ago fleeing the war in Kosovo. Their temporary shelter, now permanent housing - entire makeshift neighborhoods that Serbian authorities seem to overlook year after year. DW correspondent Fanny Facsar visited one of these settlements on the outskirts of Belgrade.
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If you’re struggling to survive, why have 7 children??
Exactly :/
He can't afford rubbers?
@Position King Serbia is a very poor country, cholera, malnutrition, probably only 2 of the 7 children will survive in Serbia, it's normal for Roma there... poor guys!
cause they make those children become beggars and panhandlers, or the ones that harass you to clean your windshield at the traffic lights; the more children, the more money for them. I just feel sorry for those children having such irresponsible parents.
Viera, are you dumb?
Living in absolute squalor and having seven children is not the best strategy for living.
I totally agree with your comment, why would anyone want to bring up kids in squalor is beyond me, especially seven kids who's going to pay for them?
Every family has at least 4 kids they fled Kosovo from who
@@deanmarkovic9765 he was a teenager when he fled.
So they should...do what? Get on birth control? What is their access to basic mddi L care like? What do you suggest?
@@Lulu-qi1um pull out? Lmao its not hard
Here is one story from my small hometown in Serbia. Our city government gave one family of approximately 8 Roma people 2 x 60 square meter apartments in a brand new building. I know it’s not enough but at least it’s something. What they did was removing the laminate floor and burning it in the center of the living room, like there is no central heating. Thanks to firefighters flame was stopped.
It's quite funny how often I hear anecdotal stories like that
Usually it's about making fire inside the provided, new, shelter or flat
For either cooking or heating
Despite there being a stove and heating
@@Peter2k84 that's because they are just that....stories.
It is most of the time wrong match - there are many Gypsies who want to keep their current lifestyle, like travellers who can not settle down. They are not in need of the order we used to live in. And governments like in Serbia, Slovakia, Romania etc. provide housing to random gypsy families, who have no intention to settle down. This does not make sense. They just need access to fresh water, food and fuel for heating in winter. Apparently they also need a regular garbage collecting service near their tents. I find such government policies to satisfy EU regulations completely wrong.
There are some sort of others, who do want to integrate, send their kids to school and mobilize upward. Seldom there is a match between gov. subsidies and such families.
This what they do everywhere. They have rights, but no responsibilities. Everywhere the same.
1:13 she says "every family here has at least 4 or more kids"..well maybe they should make less kids.. they are all around Bosnian capital Sarajevo too, living in similar conditions even in minus temperatures..I sometimes think this is the lifestyle that they choose. The gypsy lifetsyle.
In Romania they build gigantic multi-story mansions then sleep in the yard.
Not all of them, but it's common enough to be a stereotype.
Child abuse
@@johnnypham2850 agreed, living in poverty for a decades but decides to have 7 children smh
OMG, 7 kids!!!!! Man control yourself
Only 7 we are talking about them
You have no idea how fit his wife must be it would be hard for him to control himself lol....as it is we live very tame lifes in the west imagine having no electric no running water and many other things ....once you get out of the system its very hard to get back in...we are lucky we have never been homeless
7 children lol, maybe stop...
No access to contraceptives.
Women have no rights to deny their partners access to the bodies.
They bear the burden.
I found that to pretty gross. They said I don’t want them to have the same life? Like well why tf you have so many
@@briannelson3830 children are seen as generating revenues not something parents spend their revenues. The more you have the more revenue.
Quick tip,stop having children you can not support.
why?
@@scoobydicky9459 Because only losers watch there children suffer because he can't keep it in his pants.
@@bobcostas6272 I hope you develop a sense of humanity and compassion re:Bob
Well it's no issue how many kids they have but at what age... They refuse to live "normally" and marry after school for starters. When i was in 8th grade which is last grade of Elementary in Serbia(14 years of age) we had a big girl in our class that had a baby in 6th grade and was going to school from time to time, teachers tolerated her, she would drive her baby in a school yard during lunch brakes i remember very well as we boys would spy on her as she would take her breasts out to feed a baby behind school building and back then there was no porn or playboy or anything like that so to see that for boys was a big thing. Moving on... She could have EASILY finished Elementary but she left 5 months more or less i don't exactly remember before the end... Made the boys really sad also girls that liked to play with her baby. She also could have repeated a grade but she left. One might say she was poor so she had to but her parents were rich, worked in Germany had a huge house with statues, fountains, pool and gardens... She however married some poor 3-4 year older guy and lived in trash with him. That's just one example but their life decisions are their only problem. It's not money or governemnt it's them.
@@user-of4by6yk3h yes sir.In what meaningful way is ha a father? Fathers provide first and foremost.
I come from a poor Serbian family and they have more rights and financial support than I do, but guess what? We don't live in a gabrage because we choose not too, we can organise, we can save, we can do hard work and we can go to school. The problem is in their mentality, that can't be changed easily, there were times when they received flats where they can live, but yet they very soon ended up as it is shown in the video. There is some Serbian youtuber called Kimi'sLife who helped some boy who has been asking for money on the street, and the goal was to send him back to school and financialy supports his family more than average Serbian family has, but he wasn't successful in that because they wouldn't listen and aren't thankful, they don't care much about the future and theirs children future (the reason why they have like 10s of them). There are ofc some exceptions but it is very rare. But I am mad they make such documentaries for my country to seem way more bad than it is. Why don't they record some struggling Serbian family to survive without much help provided as to Romas?
Is everything fine?
I'm assuming there is no institutional or systemic prejudice towards Roma?
@@Lulu-qi1um - my mother is from Serbia. So I'm a little bias. So far as I know my mother got along with any Roma she met and they got along with my mother. She also was friends with a Roma woman in her 'hometown'.
How I see the Serbian/Roma relationship; Roma musicians are always welcome and Roma beggars are tolerate.
I think the Roma in these camp are 'lazy'. Education is free in Serbia.
I think the Roma population in Serbia are treated the best in Europe but I'm bias.😎
@@danijelandroid Roma aren't treated well anywhere, to be honest. I am a Gypsy (American) and tbh...I LOVE Serbia. I want to go one day. But I can't pretend my people are treated well there. Institutional and systemic racism exists. School is free here as well, but minorities are treated much differently than non. ❤️
@@Lulu-qi1umthey shouldn't be treated good anyways. They are crazy cavemen who don't want to live with others. They are lazy and always begging
Why did they leave Kosovo? After west came and brought democracy and equally to Kosovo people
Because in western democracy some people are more equal and some are less
Because Kosovo is under USA, their upper echelon corrupted and took" your" tax money, but other didn't like" your democracy ".
They had to leave after ethnic cleansing of the UCK. In Kosovo they had a normal life with normal houses and conditions.
Leave Kosovo? I thought you clowns thought Kosova was in Serbichia? Odd. Which is it?
Because they were required to get a job.
I'm living in Belgrade and this is not the whole story. Problem whit this roma is that they don't want to have ordinary job, pay bills, pay rent and they used to live like nomads.
Few years ago they all get container's for living near Belgrade and they return back to the same place few months after.
This is a very superficially done report.
That’s an ignorant way to look at their situation. No one wants to struggle periodt. The Roma has been targeted in genocide and racism for decades, if not centuries.
@@tawnya8712 he is not talking about all Roma population, you have many living normal lives, having jobs and houses as any other citizen. This people live in vicious circle that is hard to break. Only solution I see is taking away children and putting them in education system. If they continue to live in this conditions and with mindset they develop living in it there is no exit. I feel sorry for them but to live normal life they need to change the ways they think. And solution is not easy.
@@tawnya8712 Yeah, most recently by Germans.
They chose to live that way.
Exactly
Exactly, they have 4+ children so they get help from the state. They get more money than most hard working parents in the country yet no one bats an eye. They should get money help as soon as children finish high school.
Yes
half of serbia lives like that
@@kategoried7501Majority of Eastern Europeans live like this.
I think that people don’t really get the problem: Lots of Romas don’t even want to go to school & get educated.
Yes because there’s no point example if I admit it I was Roma no one would employ me
Dam 7 kids that is a lot of bed squeaking just to get 💩 poor
New headline: Serb free food distribtiuons isn't big enough for illiterate family of 9 with no documents. Question... Does the EU still believe in child education? How did Romania join the EU with so many people that refuse to go to school?
Romania has a lower % of gypsies than Serbia (and Bulgaria too I think).
@@milica9925 Ah yes you are right, I mixed up Serbia and Bulgaria.
Serbia has 2%, Romania 3% and Bulgaria 5%
DW, I enjoy your channel, but when you put such a complicate topic like this in such primitive manner in front of the whole world, I feel very dissapointed. Let!s not forget that Serbia was in war b/n 1991 and 1999. The country doesn’t have any support and I am pretty sure, that no one there live a normal live....with videos like this you just confuse people, nothing more...I wish you to be more sensitive, well prepared and OBJECTIVE when you show such an issue and point a finger. Greetings from Sofia, Bulgaria to Belgrade, Serbia. Such warm and lovely people!
It's news, if you have a problem, don't watch it! How do you think people live like in a majority of Africa? Grow up!!
and looking your other comments it looks like you must take yourself more seriously. Are you from Africa? :))))) stop trolling
Why does EU have it out for Serbia?
@@briannelson3830 Too many reasons to name man, most of them hidden from the public eye, me thinks.
Vasectomy
I see in coments a lot of people has a problem to understand the reason of having that many children - the children are used to earn money as beggars. Their mothers are sitting on the streets with them in arms, very often make them drunk just to keep them calm. Babies are almost always asleep :/ EU shipped tens of thousands roma people to serbia in a last decade and continue to do so. They don't even speak serbian. It is very complex problem with no solution any time soon
I would add that they get money from state for child support. Not enough of course but still adds up and new child costs nothing anyway, when they leave them to fend for themselves. State should change this so it can take away children from families that can't support them. Also, we are talking about poor country here.
I think dispensing birth control might be a start..
@@wakanda6754 this is why there giving us vaccines you fool so they can reduce the human populace all your doing is speaking elitist talk...you live like me a very tame and easy life ...imagine having nothing ever and not being able to make ever...once out of the system its hard to get back in
@@markjoachen I am not your fool...state your opinion without insulting posters.
Interesting, can we get a story as to why Roma had to flee Kosovo?
They were expelled by the UCK.
@LazicStefan xD don’t be salty your country’s demise is supported by the west
@@frostie7359 Bruh how can a person not be salty if his demise is supported by the west?
What kind of person would bring seven children into the world under these circumstance.
It's simply unconscionable.
They use 7+ children as main source of income.
A crazy selfish person.
The Rroma would be in shock, if they were to return to India. Eight centuries, and still living out of sync.
Why Roma and indians don't look similar?why looks more like European white person??
Please if anyone know elaborate ,specify with fact and figure
I heard the same thing recently. That they came from India.
@@deba7739 well Roma’s are mixed they are European and Indian
They came from the Indian Subcontinent at least centuries ago when there was no India. Please check what would the Indian Subcontinent include. Moreover I have heard Romas include present day Egypt as well.
@@deba7739 You are a tamil, you share dna with africans/dravidians. In North India live many gypsy communities that look like Roma.
make more children is the solution..
I swear the poorest regions have way too many children.
Educate yourself and you will understand...
that's just another reason why they are poor...and then they go and invade developed countries where people have far less kids, thanks to our inept "liberal" governments.
It is not about region. Serbs as well as most of other Balkan nations have negative growth in fact.
No access to condoms so
Birth control!
Not only do they need aid, but they also need family planning.
They do not need help.
It's so bad there but that man had 7 children there. ?
Albanians from Kosovo kicked them out, most of them don't want to get a job, education, and Serbia is to be blamed for that? That's the way of life for most of the Roma population in Europe for centuries; ask people from EU member states - Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary, Slovakia, Austria. Read "The Gypsies" by Pushkin. I also like how you didn't translate what she said at 1:14. "Every family has at least 4+ children here". What a biased and misleading report, shame on you DW.
why did al anians kick them out
@@blacknight3247 there are many Romas in Kosovo are overcrowding Kosovo, but many of them left the Kosovo after Kosovo war in 1999, because many Roma people supported Slobodan Milosevic, that is probably the main reason.
1:15 this is not mentioned by the translator, she says: here, families have at least 4 children upwards
Good catch, funny how they all make Serbia look so bad, but they dont show the truth why there is a problem. Because they continue to make more children that they can afford to feed while Serbian population is declining.
Another biased DW (German) narration.
not only German, must say. For example Sarah Kelly as far I’ve checked is a US journalist. Joined DW..time ago.
please dont blame Germans for this. DW does not represent the opinion of German People.
Most Germans despise Gypsies just like every other European that ever came in contact with them
DW is a German public state-owned international broadcaster funded by the German federal tax budget.”
n DW dont want show protesters in EU members country like France , Netherlands,Spain,,germany,etc ,,,
why,,, ????
The Roma people choose to live init I swear? Or someone tell me otherwise, because I for one do not like seeing any human being living in such conditions.
Yep, they choose to live like that. Few years ago, Belgrade gave free flats to them, but they pretty much sold everything they could from them and left them (they could not sell flat).
You should make a video about how government gave the Roma people a building in Borca ( part of the Belgrade) because the government renovated Belgrade waterfront. And people demolished the building in Borca, removed all the windows and doors and parquet from every apartment they got for a living over the night and disappeared. I guess they did that to sell, and they moved to another cardboard settlement. It’s hard to integrate someone in the society if they don’t want to be part of it. I’m not saying that all of them don’t want but it’s hard to find someone who wants to educate their children and find a regular job. The government should do more prevention and education if that’s possible or make a law where they are obligated to work if the have children. Not to make the beggars from them.
Young couples in MANY countries postpone their child wish because of multiple reasons. (Temporary) joblessness, financial problems and / or other factors. In short: they apply their reason. --- And the one Roma man here? SEVEN children. Many Roma people chose their fate. Do not complain when it is within your power to improve your situation.
"Serbia has a lot of problems too these Romas are not contributing to the development of the nation as Serbia is still into progress stage period transformation .?!"
You’re given food??? You should be thankful.
Sharing, Justice and Freedom for All.
another biased BS/...Well done DW,keep up the good work :))
So WHY they fled Kosovo? Who made them leave their homes? We want to hear more about that "state" NATO tries to create on Serbian soil.
I cannot believe you only dedicated 4 I repeat 4!!!! Minutes for this issue and interviewed one!!!!!! Family who fled Kosovo (not to mention that the reason for their fleeing is not mentioned at all!!!!!) I am beyond shocked of the audacity to produce such a piece of garbage with so many missing information. This is shameful. Not only because you purposely left out information but also because you are spinning the narrative in a certain direction. There are so many additional things that have to be said.
1. Romas history in Europe and in Eastern Europe at least some of the basics
2. The structure of their lifestyle and as what it means for them to live in tribes
3. What kind of benefits they do already receive in Serbia.
4. There were projects already trying to tackle the problem where are the results of that?
5. If it is only “Serbian problem” where is the comparison with a country where the problem has been resolved (with the same Roma tribe attitude not the ones that integrated)
6. I can bet that the Roma advocacy coordinator did not even know what this will be about as he speaks of the problem in general. You have human rights fighters everywhere and he also talks in general about the problem of Romas! Never did he underline anything other than that there is a problem as everyone who has a brain can acknowledge!!!
I do not understand how this was approved for production. LOL and the #KosovoWar what even were the aim of this? How could this possible be ever considered serious journalism?
Why does the Spanish version of DW have comments disabled?
I always wonder the same lol, no te los mereces, papi.
Don't worry in English version they keep deleting mine
@Dimitrius Didimitrius EU dissolving?
@Dimitrius Didimitrius lol, I'd bet against that pal
Message to Sarah Kelly:
If the editorial staff doesn't want you to be on all of the video thumbnails because of ideological reasons, than find another TV network and reach for the stars.
Why you having 7 kids ? Better have non if you live like that
If you dont want your kids to live like you than why you have 7 of them gurl bye
too many childs....
Romas, Philippines welcome you with open arms.
In Austria (par example) are empty houses!
I think the real question here is help them get documentation, work and get their own apartment.
The Roma man didn’t too sorry for his wife doing the laundry by hand. He can help do the laundry.
The shade for Texas, I can’t.....
A big jab I laughed a lot
Doesn't look much different from the most wealthy of Serb villages.
Poor kids 😣
Imagine being given land and food in a first world country and then complaining about it.
Here flooding becomes higher more again, sadly. We can't identify the weather now. 🌱🌐♥️
Buy him a TV, maybe he’ll stop.
nope just a computer with internet
Their children get free books,Free trips,Free food,Get it,Sell it and never come back at school,some of them take short breaks from school of a out 1 whole year:)
Kosovo is SERBIA
Dream on little slavic immigrant xD
-From *Kosova AL*
@@albinh.3149 Albania is my deeck
@@albinh.3149 jashari died while pooping himself
The west lecture other countries about their minorities but everyone knew about the condition of Gypsies and tribals (like sami) in Europe
1:05 this happens exactly in Hungary, politcians just show up and buy them (with potatoes and apples)
Everywhere....
And Romas living day to day life would accept anything. I come from a poor Serbian family and they have more rights and financial support than I do, but guess what? We don't live in a gabrage because we choose not too, we can organise, we can save, we can do hard work and we can go to school. The problem is in their mentality, that can't be changed easily, there were times when they received flats where they can live, but yet they very soon ended up as it is shown in the video. There is some Serbian youtuber called Kimi'sLife who helped some boy who has been asking for money on the street, and the goal was to send him back to school and financialy supports his family more than average Serbian family has, but he wasn't successful, they don't care much about the future and theirs children future (the reason why they have like 10s of them). There are ofc some exceptions but it is very rare. But I am mad they make such a documentaries for my country to seem way more bad than it is here, why don't they record some struggling Serbian family to survive without much help that is provided as to Romas.
They should start to help themselves by clearing up their rubbish. Seven children!
God helps those who help themselves .
I feel sorry for those children.
The samsonnnnnnssss ...
Roma is the capital of Italy...
That’s Rome
You are not translating what she is saying. She ends with "every family have at least 4 kids" and god knows what else she told and you just made up junk to sound more friendly. Yes, they live in horrible conditions and should be helped but even more what they need is education and integration in society. Because they are living entire lives in this condition they act like it even if they get shelter or even home. If they are not trained none will hire them and to be honest some of them refuse to learn because this is the life they know. It is a long and hard process even for rich countries let alone Serbia.
A Roma girl is playing and hiding on a wooden bench, Belgrade, Serbia. | © goran cakmazovic / Shutterstock

John William Bills
29 May 2018
The overwhelming majority of the Serbian population has had a tough time of things since the fall of socialism, but no group has had it harder than the Romani of Serbia. The country’s third largest ethnic group has an overwhelming and seemingly impossible mountain to climb just to exist, let alone thrive.
Kosovo is part of Serbia ❣️
Blaming local government is not handle the problem.
1:29 How can you have seven children and say you don't want the same life for them? Wrap your willy.
Get your documents Roma’s & be done with this shameful behavior-
Gypsy and Judah people lived for so long on this continent. But you can see where they are this is how we gone integrate in this part of the world the biggest tragedy in humman history Gypsy in Europe.
Why he have to 7 kids? Take an others 4 so can be a football team no more struggling 🤜
@Dimitrius Didimitrius bro lucky for?
@Dimitrius Didimitrius bro you're wrong I'm from bangladesh
@Dimitrius Didimitrius maybe but still can't find it out about lucky number
@Dimitrius Didimitrius thanks bro maybe it was
That last comment on the requirments for Serbia to join the EU one day is very cynical. I am Bulgarian and in Bulgaria thousands if not thens of thousands of Roma live without access to running water or electricity and they knew that before 2007. For the EU Serbia is far from a priority. BG and RO joined the EU back in 2007 to connect the EU-corridor with Greece. Geopolitism of a supranational institution.
Seven kids ? Dude, put a sock on the pickle
In Serbia if you work and take some care of yourself, you can live good and build a house. These specific people just don’t want to assimilate and work. In my village we have a few roma people and they work and live well too, they are nice people. But these ones from the videos are just lazy.
15k views can get you anything from $5 to 500$ , though it all depends on the CPC. If you are talking about CZcams views, you can assume/Generalize that you will get $1 for 1,000 views, thus, $15.
DW Propagana !!!
Those Roma does not even live there.
You associate them with War on Kosovo and Metohija.
Those people don't even educate and work they only know to cry and blame on others.
You are big disappointment .
You came to interview the people that you paid 20e to talk.
Those people even sold votes for 50e in some villages.
Go and film the Berlin and Frankfurt suburbs .
I ll report this video till it get deleted.
I think a geography lesion is in order for DW (lesson - autocorrected to lesion)
Maybe, but at least we can spell. ;-)
@@dwnews I would heart this comment if I could
Why do they keep having kids if they live in a dumb?
What? Take the free housing!!!!
I think is the same nations
It's about mental
No one deserve to live in such environments
The adults choose this lifestyle
Ok help some to your home and pay half of your Salary.
Days need help from the Humanity right,
“Texas after a winter storm”. No this is what it is like all over Europe.
Once the government sets out to do something, I bet DW is gonna come back and report "human rights abuse".
If possible provide link to donate finance assistance to these stranded forgotten families. Thank you
LoL - gypsy lifestyle choice ... you can fund it all you want. Results remain the same.
@@01p45 I did met some remarkable Romani people while living in Serbia. I'll help if possible
😪
That’s heart breaking
Some of you guy jay or people who are not Roma see this video and you think that all Roma people are poor and desperate nothing can be further from the truth I'm Roma from America and hear the poorest of the poor are well-to-do I would invite you to see for yourself just look at Roma weddings from America they will rival those of royalty women and girls wearing fine clothes and red bottom shoes adorned with gold and diamonds teenage boys have Rolex watches and new cars and hundred dollar bills in their pockets and so do their fathers and living in beautiful homes a clean and Beautiful People who keep the Romani traditions and language and lack nothing and I am proud to be a part of them and rich or poor they are still my people I invite you to see for yourselves on today's media opre Roma that means Roma people stand up be lucky be proud and be blessed and by the way we are not from India Roma is a lost tribe of Israel but still they are their own race with their own language
Based
The politicians give them bread oil butter get there vote, s “come back in four years give them a cellphone an a hat get more votes
Give them a goddamn condom
NONE CAN WIN BY RUNNING AWAY FROM THE PROBLEMS BROUGHT ABOUT BY TYRANTS...
Kosovo is Serbia
Nope its a separate country
Original languagesGerman
English
Spanish
ArabicHindi
Indian origin
Come to western Europe, gov will give you house food and money ..
Turkey too do that.Turkey destroy their poorest areas but built modern houses for them.
Let’s all put our money and time together to send allllll the romas to Germany 🇩🇪 ❤ diversity is Germanys strength 😂 against this plan than you are a you know what
God help them
Is roma the name for tribe..? Are they ortodox or catholic roman..?
The name of rome is romantism since thousand year ago of the roman imperium in the west (italy) and in the east (constantinople)..
Why serbian govt let them so poor in decades...
Is there no good solutions for them..?
Or they just important at the time of election for their vote...
Unfortunately...
Because Albanian immigrants moved into private properties of non-Albanians on Kosovo. Make Albanians abide laws and return back other people's properties on Kosovo and problem will be solved.
Sad...very sad..where is humanity gone. Where is compassion...fie to the government
Don't be brainwashed by DW
@@dimm7448 hey thanks buddy.. I'll remember it👍
Government gave them free flats, but they left them and went back to leave like this. This is much more complex issue than you think.
Shameful for so called developed Europe.