Oldest Stone Inscriptions in India // Mangulam Tamil-Brahmi Cave Inscriptions // 3rd BCE
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- čas přidán 27. 01. 2023
- Mangulam is a village in Madurai district, Tamil Nadu, India. It is located 25 kilometres from Madurai. The inscriptions discovered in the region are the earliest Tamil-Brahmi inscriptions dating back to 3rd century BC.
There are five caves in the hill of which six inscriptions are found in four caves. These were inscribed during SANGAM PERIOD, hence it is considered one of the important inscriptions in Tamil Nadu. The inscriptions mentions that workers of Nedunchezhiyan I, a Pandyan king of Sangam period, (c. 270 BCE) made stone beds for Jain monks. An inscription shows that Kadalan Vazhuthi, a worker (பணஅன்- accountant; he was also related family) of Nedunchezhiyan made stone bed to Jain monk Nanda Sirikuvan. It is the protected monuments in Tamil Nadu by the Archaeological Survey of India.
Salut to the greatest Tamil!
Brahmi is a misnomer for Thamizhi, the conspiracy by the nomadic immigrants from the Steppes to the sub-continent of the native dark-skinned Dravidians, the Tamils.
Agree👍🏾
You guys are hopelessly stupid
Yes. They want to poke in their dirty nose into everything which belongs to Tamil's.
It’s Tamizhi
Yes 100% true
Not Jain monks they belong to Aaseevsgam/Ajivikas
You can refer to Aaseevagamum Ayyanar varalarum by Dr Ka Nedunchezhiyan
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Samanam and Jainam are two different communities. Samanam from Tamilnadu who were teaching communities and one of the oldest like Aaseevaham. Jainism and Buddhism are Northern communities.
Never heard that explanation before. Interesting😊
@@youtubedoctorkindly read a book named ajivikas.. its available online....
Tamil❤ தமிழ்
TAMILL
Very interesting how Jain and Buddhist inscription are still available in distant parts of the country
We need to protect them
this is called tamizli , Jainism has taken inspiration from Tamizl samanam
It's was Samanam & was already in Tamilnadu. Jainism is not the same as Samanam.
Interesting. That is new to me🙂
This is about the inscription of the place donated to the asveegam saint , the asveegam is also the one of the tamil religion in ancient time of jain and budhism period.
Samanam originated actually it created the Tamizh ethos with it's language and culture...
Across the country there is indiscriminate destruction of these stones for construction. We don’t know how much of the historical evidence is getting lost in that.
Agree. Sad truth
Deliberately hidden or destroyed
It's not Tamil Brahmi, It's Thamizhi...
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Loved this video bro!Thank you so much❤
My pleasure 😊 Glad you liked it👍🏾😊
@@youtubedoctor More videos please dear bro on ancient Tamil sites and temples and inscriptions.Am a foreign Tamil, so eager to learn about our ancestors.Thank you!
@@eshsundar. I live abroad too. I try my best to make to vlog on ancient sites whenever I visit Tamilnadu. Thanks for your support.
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Antha background music thevaya? Aya yen intha karmum?
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Yes
Very nice
Thanks 🙏
தமிழ் உயர் தனி செம்மொழி
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Tamil cultural heritage predates brahminic presence in peninsular India. However, these inscriptions are written in Pali script.
It’s Thamilzhi
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Would like to have english transcription of these tamil brahmi scripts . Do you have research paper describing this inscriptions in detail ?
I'm sure it's available on the web. I will forward it if I come across. Thanks for watching
@@youtubedoctor i searched but didnt find any . Please provide me one .
@@sohamshinde7978it should be in the TN state archaeology website & their survey docs
Can this site be preserved like Bhim_Betka? It's wealth and our prestigious heritage
True. These sites needed to be preserved
what is the tamil song used at the start of the video ?
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Tamil Jain Chant😍
Tamil Jain Chant
Tamil 20thausand years
It's amazing. Isn't it😊
When we going through sangam scripts, indicated time & few kings name would be more older than 300 bc. What they used to transfer data, we need to must know? Then only can go further. May be after Jain or Buddha incoming, cave scripts started. But, communication & grammers are more older than , cave timing. Archeological clay pot, having 580BC old Tamil scripts. But it's not enaf. Tamil scripts wise visulals & examples & data &stories are more old. How excavate, solid proof? If there was any chance to be another writing style???? Tamil brahmi, later formed around 1000BC????
Interesting. But to be honest I am not an expert to comment on it.
SUPER IVANE.
I Missed it.
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There are such inscriptions all around sri lanka.. but all most every inscription r written in old sinhala..
Tamil bhrami, sinhala writing did not exist even in the 3rd century AD.
@@tamilpatriot7815 u gotta understand that script and the language are two different things..
Old sinhala written in brahmi script.. more specifically southern brahmi..
@@user-ib2dq7ev5n The words were Maru mahan, Maru mahal, Paru mahan...Around that time the Tamils who were living there started to practice the Prakrit style of speaking so they wrote the Tamil Bhrami with the prakrit pronounciation, also coins were discovered with Tamil names with the same Bhrami.
Soon more will come out and Thamilaham will have the oldest bhrami...you have urn burial practice of the Tamils in Iban Katuwa, with exactly the same formations that was practiced in Thamilaham in the past.
@@tamilpatriot7815 it's how south indians used the word.. in sri lankan prakrit it's PARUMAKA and PARUMAKALU for females.. PARUMAKA is literally sanskrit pramuka in prakirt form.. in prakrit its simplified that's why.. are there any south indian inscriptions which have used PARUMAKA Or PARUMAKALU..? NO cuz those are two separate ways of using the Chife in two different places.. what about the whole prakrut inscription and its meanings then?
Karithe,lene,upasaka are these words in any tamil inscriptions..? No
It's already proven by the scholars that there is a clear non dravdian prakrit on this island..
சமணம் ஆசீவகம் இரண்டும் ஒன்றுதான் ஆனால் அதிலிருந்து சிறிது வேறுபட்டு மகாவீரரால் வளர்தெடுக்கப்பட்டது ஜைனம்
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MAHAVEER JOINED AS MONK & LATER STARTED HIS OWN entity , to suit his ethnic group WITHOUT OBLITERATING ORIGINAL HISTORIC ASPECTS! EG. ADHI NATH, 23 THEERTHANGARS BEFORE..etc..etc..!!! originally it belonged to indian tamils!!!
Tamizh land had tantric Samana (Murugan)and not puritanical Jainism
It’s prakrit language
Brahmi albhatets
Samanam / Sramana - jain saints - Sravana Belagola - in Karnataka,
Savnoor - Sramana Ooru
No prakrit doesnt have ழ,ற,ந letters and phonetics
tamili stone inscriptions date way back before asokan brahmi inscriptions which is used to write prakrit
@@kowsickrajs but brahmis it self closely resemblance the aramaic script which is nowhere to find in indian subcontinent at that time.. so it is most possible from outside..
Some seems pre-Turkish lettering.
That's interesting😊
Dont say Jainism. The ancient religion of Tamils is called Samanam (or) Aseevagam.
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You should have edited the video... pls change the mention of jainism... its irritating....
Shouldn't this place be protected?
Of course it should be. 😊
பிராமி என்பதை தவிர்ப்போம்
தமிழி என்போம்
Ce or bc?
Before the Common Era (Formerly called as BC)
@@youtubedoctor yeah but the caption in the video says 3rd century CE while the voiceover says BCE, hence the confusion.
the story of tamil scripts????
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I request Tamils to read south Indian history before 1st century, Jains ascetics & religion flourished & Buddhism
Also in Tamil Nadu, Thiruvalluvar was a jain saint, kund kunda charya
Please read, Shilpadikharam
& mani meghala, nalvidiyar books, to make Tamilian rich in culture
The 3 poets you've mentioned have never said that they follow or belong to a religion
Tamils used to worship small gods (kuruntheivangal) ,protective gods (kaaval theivangal) and (peruntheivangal)
All youve said above is just a conversion stunt just like every other religion
Leave us alone stop taking pieces from the pride of tamils.
Tamil People worshiped kottravai and karuppaswamy 3000 years back not lord mahaveer and his teachings oh wait he was not born yet😢
You should wait for more acielogy proofs what you are. An anslogy of Prakrit is needed. In my opinion the fusion of pure pali and pure thamil is the result prakrit. Samannam has a religious way of life was existing in su
Southern states, this practice later was identified with jaina through practicing and propogating. The delusion that everything from north to south is going to be broken in time, patients will bring true history. We don't accept Jain's brought but the practice of the Jain's and samanams were parallels in keeping with the ties that in that time frame the north and south could have been one race/ peoples . Look at ashokan coins thamil and pali share a mother daughter relationship with prakrith. Prakrit more a Northern language share relationship to to thamil due to its relationship. Because of blind scholarship towards sanskrit as root language to other languages , the source to Sanskrit is neglected, thus indian language evolution and history is still in the mist and does not correlate.
I'm on an expert on this field but your explanation sounds logical.
நம் பழந்தமிழ் எழுத்துக்களில் இருந்து தான் ஆங்கிலஎழுத்துக்களின் வடிவம் எடுத்திருக்காங்க... பாருங்கள் நன்றாக.. நம் பழந்தமிழ் எழுத்துக்கள் ஆங்கில Abcdef போலவே இருக்கிறது
Its an inscription can see in Christ Jesus time its on cup seen in New York museum.3 bce is time Christ came to India.
Jesus came to India?
@@ShaileshKumar-io2znProphet Thomas has arrived in India... Ancient thamizhagam, now it's modern day Kerala.
@@xavier9476 a jewish girl had premartal sex, an orphan was born ... you say one lie you have to say a hundred other lies. your destiny is like your brothers of judaism and islam. now we are cleaning north east. coming to kerala soon..
What is Hinduism?
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I have long pondered on what constitutes this so called religion that is sitting on the head of my Tamizh people and have come up with some conclusions ....
The priest from the Zoroastrian religion came to india with their Avestan language and fire rituals and later created some slogans in old Sanskrit to form the Vedas which was never written down.
These priest learnt the principles of the Samana tradition that originated in the southern part of the sub continent namely in the Tamizh tradition and started incorporating it into their already existent vaiteegam rituals and produced the Upanishads and became vegetarians.
For a solid philosophical footing which they needed in a highly philosophical Tamizh infused land about the 8th century Adi Sankara came up with Advaita logic that distorted the original Buddhist thoughts and produced a dichotomical nonsense which did not last the test of time.
Later they took up the Tantric Samana Tamizh tradition and put forth the bakti religiosity. This they took also from the Christian tradition and desperately created for the Islamic onslaught. Bakti was based on erotism and appealed to the masses. The high Samana tantric philosophical basis was ruined for the newly conjectured 'Hindu' religion of the wretched puranic tales.
This is the history of the Priestly class(Brahmins) that still retain their priesthood in the agamic temples that held sway through the bakti movement from the 10th century onwards. The consecutive non-Tamizh rulers firmly rooted the new found 'Hindu' religion with its caste system( the four varnas) that the British gave the final seal to....
Called it tamizhi please remove brahmi❤
Please don't include the word Bhrami with Tamizhi...
Tamizhi .... then to Tamil.... there is no such thing as Brahmi associated with Tamizhi.... or with Tamil.....
please remove the word Brahmi..... is is NOT Tamil....
Hai what brahmi? That's Thamizhiee(தமிழீ).
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