Looks like a direct copy of lock used in Eiko Japanese document safes (so Japanese junk ) . Just had one apart changed combo. Moved bolt. You can swop/maybe flip wheel 2 and 3. Put a better tumbler lock in, is next to look at. Maybe a Miwa.😊.
I think you could make that lock much harder to manipulate simply by pushing some kind of extension around the sidebar (the metal part that goes into the gate when correct combination is dialed). Maybe a bit of garden house or multiple layers of heat-shrink tubing? And grind of all those static flies and use a bolts on every wheel. That would accomplish three things: 1. Pushing the sidebar towards the wheels is a slightly mushy so accurate measurements are harder to make. Pure metal-on-metal contact is easy to measure accurately. Metal on rubber requires constant torque for each test. 2. Extra stuff around the sidebar makes the effective gate width narrower. 3. You can actually change the combination (albeit only to one of 14^3 possible combinations, note that there are 13 holes + the gate which means each wheel has actually 14 possible orientations). You could also try griding the sidebar slightly wavy for the section that touches the code wheels. Then all the slop in the mechanism would position those waves different for each try which would make decoding the lock much harder. Note that whatever squishy material you use, it must not extend long enough from the sidebar to grind the code wheels while the drive wheel is rotated. Oh yeah, and make sure to grind e.g. 3 false gates to each code wheel.
Thanks, a very useful video, I have one that looks identical and I mislaid the combination when I moved house 2+ years ago. I thought I had the combination on my phone, but it only has 3 digits not four? From your video I now know the drive wheel is 88, but I have still not been able to open it. Can you confirm the number of turns each way as all the other videos say 4-3-2-1, but they only have 3 digits, so does that mean it shoud be 5-4-3-2 ? I am prepared try all 2197 combinations, but I need to get the number of turns each way right first. Many Thanks.
Why dont you put the pins back in the lock and show how easy it is to manipulate. Now you either have to impression a key first or pick the lock every time you want to test a wheel assuming we are going for NDE. Not quite so easy.
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Like a lot of picking, taking the time to break it down and learn it makes it so much easier. Great video, Maynard!
Looks like a direct copy of lock used in Eiko Japanese document safes (so Japanese junk ) . Just had one apart changed combo. Moved bolt. You can swop/maybe flip wheel 2 and 3. Put a better tumbler lock in, is next to look at. Maybe a Miwa.😊.
I think you could make that lock much harder to manipulate simply by pushing some kind of extension around the sidebar (the metal part that goes into the gate when correct combination is dialed). Maybe a bit of garden house or multiple layers of heat-shrink tubing? And grind of all those static flies and use a bolts on every wheel.
That would accomplish three things:
1. Pushing the sidebar towards the wheels is a slightly mushy so accurate measurements are harder to make. Pure metal-on-metal contact is easy to measure accurately. Metal on rubber requires constant torque for each test.
2. Extra stuff around the sidebar makes the effective gate width narrower.
3. You can actually change the combination (albeit only to one of 14^3 possible combinations, note that there are 13 holes + the gate which means each wheel has actually 14 possible orientations).
You could also try griding the sidebar slightly wavy for the section that touches the code wheels. Then all the slop in the mechanism would position those waves different for each try which would make decoding the lock much harder. Note that whatever squishy material you use, it must not extend long enough from the sidebar to grind the code wheels while the drive wheel is rotated.
Oh yeah, and make sure to grind e.g. 3 false gates to each code wheel.
Just found your training videos. Wish I found you sooner. You really know ur stuff.
Great video, fantastic explanation, thanks for sharing Michael ;o))
Fantastic explanation Michael. If nothing else i suppose it's a good training aid. Thanks for sharing and take care mate.
Great video! Interesting and informative! Garbage engineering has its place...negative examples are valuable. :)
Great video brother, that was cool
Thanks, a very useful video, I have one that looks identical and I mislaid the combination when I moved house 2+ years ago. I thought I had the combination on my phone, but it only has 3 digits not four? From your video I now know the drive wheel is 88, but I have still not been able to open it. Can you confirm the number of turns each way as all the other videos say 4-3-2-1, but they only have 3 digits, so does that mean it shoud be 5-4-3-2 ? I am prepared try all 2197 combinations, but I need to get the number of turns each way right first. Many Thanks.
Lot's of good info my friend
Nice tutorial!!! Yes there are a lot of safes out there that are a joke. One in each home! LOL :)) 👍👍👍👍🧡
An entertaining watch on a hot Summers afternoon
You lucky sod :P
I see you fixed the wheel travel in dial direction change, and you salvaged it for training purposes, well it looked like you fixed it.
I just picked up a good quality dial you can borrow if you want some comparison. Seargent & Greenleaf
So actually a good safe to learn dial manipulation theory on (for a beginner anyway). If only all dates were that easy :)
You may be able to rearrange the order some
Watched for the sake of curiosity
Safes are awesome - just a whole nother ballgame.
Grind the knobs on the wheels away, insert a small bolt, voila - new code. Not so hard at all!
Please, is it possible to translate into Arabic or explain in Arabic?
Why dont you put the pins back in the lock and show how easy it is to manipulate. Now you either have to impression a key first or pick the lock every time you want to test a wheel assuming we are going for NDE. Not quite so easy.
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