Makes you wonder what's going on at hobbywing, first the big rock debacle and now this. I hope they get this sorted out. Hobbywing make up most of what I run. Nice video
I'm given that this problem doesn't seem to happen with every sensorless motor I'm guessing this just isn't something that they realized during their initial testing. It's good that they got it fixed though.
@@jerryvolpini7987 for sure. I've run the same style mounts on my several Maxx vehicles and they've proven to be very reliable. I think they're the best option.
@jackboutcher68 I have one. Honestly I don't really like running the long can motors in these. Too big too heavy and honestly the power really just isn't needed for the kind of bashing that I do.
@@DoRC but it's still fun.. a buddy of mine has three Max fours and three 500 ish KVs all G2 for his losi dvxl and 5T I believe... Not sure where he put the third one in.. He's also got a 71cc motor I believe for his gas powered 5T
I have been having a similar problem with my max8 g2 in sensored mode and also my max g2 in unsensored. Already tried firmware update on the max8 which didnt solve it. Will have to try it on the max6 to see if it does. Also been having problems with my xr8 pro g3 going into lvc
If you don't have any problems I'm not sure I'd recommend doing it. It is supposed to make sensored performance better as well but if you already happy with it I'm not sure I'd worry about it.
Yeah That's the motor I used in the video. Different motors will have different amounts of this issue but the new firmware definitely helps. It took that motor in the video from being essentially undrivable to feeling pretty reasonable.
@DoRC honestly after seeing how well the sensored drove I think that it might be the better solution for me. I hate dropping down to a 90 but the 113 doesn't fit a stock outcast 8s.
@@ChrisHarmon1 I have the 5690 and Max5. Running 23/35 Mod 1.5 and some Pro Line Desperado's Beadlock Rears and Tarmac Busters. It's got ridiculous power.
I just lost all my setting options? I’ve reset it it, updated firmware, still not right. Was driving fine, easy driving and now it’s like it’s a completely different ESC?
@@DoRC what I actually mean to say is that the BEC options are gone or were gone, it would only show automatic Lipo instead of the different selections that normally give you, and any of the other options like motor, reverse or what not. What is it CW or CWWR just gone. They did come back I’m not sure what happened. It took about 15 minutes and then it just came back. Super weird?
All the people that said I only run hobby wing when the Big Rock has issues where are they now lol Still funny they didnt know the Spektrum is Hobbywing I have the older max 5 on stock xrt tires and traxxas motor does back flips no poblem I actually removed the bigger motor it was too much
Having this issue with my max6 g2 in my kraton 6s exb with a spektrum 5687 1100kv. The delay is really bad and I thought it might have been my gearing at first
I haven't seen the same issue reported for the Max 6 g2. What your experiencing could be cogging depending on tire size and gearing though it could be the same problem. This issue and cogging will behave very similarly though cogging will be more of a hesitation chatter and this is just it starting off slowly.
@@DoRC it's definitely the same issue for my max6 g2. I even thought it was a throttle ramp setting I over looked somewhere. I'll have to see if I'm on the latest firmware.
I’m not sure either but I thought if they made it so if you hold down the power button for a bit it would act like a set button. But I really just wish they just had put the port on it I mean why do you need it on your phone like it’s faster to plug in the cord and turn the vehicle on than going through the Bluetooth.
@@RcSpeedFreak-kk8wj Yeah I agree. I think the set button is a good thing to get rid of because it's a really terrible way to program an ESC but getting rid of the port seems really silly to me.
It's not cogging per se. Cogging is when the ESC is struggling to get the motor spinning because it doesn't yet understand the rotor position. This issue really is just more about the startup routine of the ESC itself with certain motors. There is still a slight bit of hesitation from a dead standstill with some motors but it's way better than it was before the update.
@@DoRC true, definitely looked better after the update. Hopefully they fix it completely sometime soon. It coggs with a tp 5860 motor (uncensored pretty bad)
I dig the fix & test videos
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Makes you wonder what's going on at hobbywing, first the big rock debacle and now this. I hope they get this sorted out. Hobbywing make up most of what I run. Nice video
I'm given that this problem doesn't seem to happen with every sensorless motor I'm guessing this just isn't something that they realized during their initial testing. It's good that they got it fixed though.
Great to see the issue was resolved! Nice battery straps!
I like the battery strap mounts but the straps themselves are crap. I replaced them with some Kevlar ones.
@@DoRC Yeah, I was really referring to the mounts. Cheap, easy fix, though.
@@jerryvolpini7987 for sure. I've run the same style mounts on my several Maxx vehicles and they've proven to be very reliable. I think they're the best option.
Really am glad you are using the max 5 g2.. look forward to seeing more videos of what you do
Yeah it's definitely a good ESC and this update makes it a lot better with sensorless motors.
@@DoRC if you get a chance, grab the 1100 KV G2 if it's on sale. But you will need a rear motor mount attachment for it just to be safe
@jackboutcher68 I have one. Honestly I don't really like running the long can motors in these. Too big too heavy and honestly the power really just isn't needed for the kind of bashing that I do.
@@DoRC but it's still fun.. a buddy of mine has three Max fours and three 500 ish KVs all G2 for his losi dvxl and 5T I believe... Not sure where he put the third one in.. He's also got a 71cc motor I believe for his gas powered 5T
@@jackboutcher68 More power is more fun :-)
Nice easy motor swap with M2C. Love that company
Definitely an awesome a
mount!
Right on! glad they got the bug out! great company, great video! thanks for posting!!
Yeah it's definitely an improvement. Love your mount by the way!
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I had the original max 5 combo in my v4 Kraton and it was awesome almost too much power lol… def helped me with throttle control haha
Yeah that's a lot of combo for that chassis!
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I have been having a similar problem with my max8 g2 in sensored mode and also my max g2 in unsensored. Already tried firmware update on the max8 which didnt solve it. Will have to try it on the max6 to see if it does. Also been having problems with my xr8 pro g3 going into lvc
Wow that's a lot of problems. Yeah quite a few people have told me they've had issues with other recently released hobbywing ESCs.
Great video is it worth doing the update if you have no problem being censored
If you don't have any problems I'm not sure I'd recommend doing it. It is supposed to make sensored performance better as well but if you already happy with it I'm not sure I'd worry about it.
@@DoRC or maybe I’m not noticing it because I have mine crammed into a 1/10 scale Traxxas slash 4x4 and I run 12s 😂
@@hardtailrider7172 lol
I have seen a few people with the king val, hobbystar and surpass rebrands having this issue. The delay on my 56112 780kv with 12s is insanely bad.
Yeah That's the motor I used in the video. Different motors will have different amounts of this issue but the new firmware definitely helps. It took that motor in the video from being essentially undrivable to feeling pretty reasonable.
@DoRC honestly after seeing how well the sensored drove I think that it might be the better solution for me. I hate dropping down to a 90 but the 113 doesn't fit a stock outcast 8s.
@@ChrisHarmon1 I have the 5690 and Max5. Running 23/35 Mod 1.5 and some Pro Line Desperado's Beadlock Rears and Tarmac Busters. It's got ridiculous power.
Is there a way to update the firmware with the non Bluetooth programmer? I'd imagine maybe downloading software on a laptop. Etc.
Yes. You could use the Windows USB link software to do everything that you can do with the Bluetooth version.
I just lost all my setting options? I’ve reset it it, updated firmware, still not right. Was driving fine, easy driving and now it’s like it’s a completely different ESC?
Hmm. That's strange. The punch usually is the thing that is most responsible for how easy it feels to drive. I'd recommend the lowering that.
@@DoRC what I actually mean to say is that the BEC options are gone or were gone, it would only show automatic Lipo instead of the different selections that normally give you, and any of the other options like motor, reverse or what not. What is it CW or CWWR just gone. They did come back I’m not sure what happened. It took about 15 minutes and then it just came back. Super weird?
Pinion and Spur with the new motor?
I think I was running 35/21.
All the people that said I only run hobby wing when the Big Rock has issues where are they now lol Still funny they didnt know the Spektrum is Hobbywing I have the older max 5 on stock xrt tires and traxxas motor does back flips no poblem I actually removed the bigger motor it was too much
It is good to see that they addressed it though.
Having this issue with my max6 g2 in my kraton 6s exb with a spektrum 5687 1100kv. The delay is really bad and I thought it might have been my gearing at first
I haven't seen the same issue reported for the Max 6 g2. What your experiencing could be cogging depending on tire size and gearing though it could be the same problem. This issue and cogging will behave very similarly though cogging will be more of a hesitation chatter and this is just it starting off slowly.
@@DoRC it's definitely the same issue for my max6 g2. I even thought it was a throttle ramp setting I over looked somewhere. I'll have to see if I'm on the latest firmware.
@OmniMan_Racing yeah let me know what you find.
Having same issue with my max 8 g2 running with corally motor, do you think update will help ?
I'm not sure there is an update for the Max 8 that addresses the same issue.
I really hope they make it so on the max6 g2 you can program manually
It doesn't have a set button so I'm not sure exactly how they would do that.
I’m not sure either but I thought if they made it so if you hold down the power button for a bit it would act like a set button. But I really just wish they just had put the port on it I mean why do you need it on your phone like it’s faster to plug in the cord and turn the vehicle on than going through the Bluetooth.
@@RcSpeedFreak-kk8wj Yeah I agree. I think the set button is a good thing to get rid of because it's a really terrible way to program an ESC but getting rid of the port seems really silly to me.
Agreed the set button isn’t very good but the esc port was
@@RcSpeedFreak-kk8wj yep
Do you know if they have updates on all of the max esc’s or just the max 5?
As far as I know this is just for the Max 5. I don't believe the other ESC's had the same problems.
Oh just fixing issues not adding features.
@IsaacSchultz-lz8jc Well they added in one feature but it's probably one that should have already been there :-)
It did help but I could tell that it still is cogging from a stand still
It's not cogging per se. Cogging is when the ESC is struggling to get the motor spinning because it doesn't yet understand the rotor position. This issue really is just more about the startup routine of the ESC itself with certain motors. There is still a slight bit of hesitation from a dead standstill with some motors but it's way better than it was before the update.
@@DoRC true, definitely looked better after the update. Hopefully they fix it completely sometime soon. It coggs with a tp 5860 motor (uncensored pretty bad)
@andruhanovo6583 yeah not sure if they're planning another update or not.
Do u need the programmer if u have the Bluetooth module?
No. You can connect the Bluetooth module directly to your phone and program it that way.