MotoGP rider Casey Stoner explains his incredible technique in turn 3 at Philip Island Gypsy Tales
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- Casey Stoner was a magician through the highly technical turn 3 at Philip Island. While some maybe attribute the 260kmph power slide to pure talent and balls, Casey reveals otherwise. In this segment from our 4 hour podcast, Casey reveals his secrets to getting through turn three and that his mastery came as a result of fear.
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Not sure how many are aware but Casey won 41 Australian dirt and long track titles and over 70 State titles, riding up to 5 bikes at a meeting in different capacity categories. All before the age of 14! He then he headed to Europe with his parents to start a road racing career (he was too young to race in Australia). He went on to take out the English 125cc Aprilia Championship in 2000, in his first year of road racing.
The rest, as they say, is history!
Exato! Ele ganhou mais de 200 corridas no MX. Só num final de semana de tres dias, ele ganhou 35 de 38 provas, sendo que nas tres que ele não ganhou foi porque a moto quebrou. Lenda absoluta!!
And this explains why Casey always wanted the electronics turned off more than most riders. Fascinating.
He used electronics.
@@richie7361 he used them because everyone else was and it was the only way to stay competitive. but he wanted to have no electronics bc he knew that he had a much better feeling/understanding than most of the other riders and it would really be more of the rider more that the bike yes every bike is different but its not being assisted by the electronics and the rider is riding the bike not the electronics
@@2_Wheel_Jay you really think that riders like rossi or lorenzo can't ride a bike without electronics?
Those guys started RACING at 3 years old, they spend most of their training on supermotos, flat track and motocross bikes, search for videos of 5 years old jorge lorenzo drifting, to assume Casey is the only one capable of riding without tc seems incredible to me especially from someone who rides too,ALL the riders back then came from categories were the bikes had zero rider aides,Valentino raced the nastro azzurro 500cc Honda in 2000 ffs,I like Casey as much as the next guy but I don't think the outcome would be much different tc or no tc.All the top guys Casey competed against in motogp had nearly two decades racing experience at twenty something years old, they were no slouches
@@inb4230 of course they all could if they had to. They’re the best of the best. However. Casey is a stand alone talent. His time with Ducati speaks for itself. He pushed that bike to its absolute limits which even Rossi wasn’t able to do. Casey was special amongst the best.
@@ray_ban6159 can't the same be said about marc Marquez?I mean, he basically retired all the top talents ,59 wins/100 podiums out of 154 starts, 8 WC. Stoner started racing in 2002,got 2 WC, so did rossi in that time frame,even Hayden got one, lorenzo got 5!marc came out all guns blazing murdered everyone on his first year and no other team mate could handle that Honda either ,I would expect that someone with the level of talent I see implied in this comment section would have won more than 2,and ESPECIALLY would have won something in the lower categories that had zero riding aides, and bottom line, he didn't,I mean look at Marquez, 125 won it,moto2 won it first year, 013,14,16,17,18,19,now THAT'S an out of the ordinary talent.Casey without electronics would have KILLED himself in that Ducati,people always like to romanticize things when careers end but at the end of the day, the data is there, the numbers are there for everyone to see.
That ducati was also not the pig everybody likes to point out, if it was it wouldn't have won the world championship, she squirmed and shaked but it was perfect for Casey's riding style,again I'll point out Marquez with both wheels pointing sideways all over the track and look at his results.I'm in 100% against people with a flag covering their eyes so I'm not expecting anyone agreeing with me, I'm not Spanish btw,OR Italian because I know what's coming, i was extremely pissed with how Casey got treated for challenging rossi,I just tell it how it is .Great rider, unbelievably fast and entertaining to watch, but ON PAR with with 4 or 5 riders back then, not this mystical being yall are implying here
im a die hard rossi fan, but if this guy didn't quit, I surely will become a fan of him. he's the most talented person to ever ride a motogp bike in my opinion
This man is one of the most badass riders to ever ride a motorcycle. He literally made Rossi, Pedrosa, Lorenzo look like amateurs at certain times, for 2-3 years. Not many people have done that and it’s a shame we didn’t see more of this guy on the track…
Yeah totally!! It shocked me to see him retire so young, but after hearing his story I can understand.
Nobody could ride that era Ducati... possibly the most skilled rider of the past 3 decades, since Hailwood and Agostini
Really a pity he stopped and wasn`t very consistent.
I agree
What are you talking about? The only year Stoner won on the Ducati was the year that he was on special tyres, which were much faster than the others. He never won a championship after that, until he got on the Honda in 2011, which was the best bike on the grid. Rossi won three consecutive championships on the Honda, and people kept saying that's why he was winning, because Honda was the best bike, which it was. Honda has always been the best bike. But Rossi left Honda for Yamaha, and proved, that truly, he was the best rider. It wasn't the bike. Stoner is fast, and surely he's faster than Marquez on the Honda as well (which is why Marquez stopped Stoner from wildcarding at Jerez), but to say he made Rossi, Lorenzo look like amateurs, is incorrect.
For those people watching this that are not well familiar with Casey's racing career- he is likely the most talented and skilled pure motorbike rider in MotoGP history. He didnt have the racecraft of Rossi or Lawson at all times, but was able to do things that baffled riders like Spies, Edwards, Rossi, etc.
Most importantly- he was the only rider that was able to consistently win on the Ducati of the time- the same bike that Rossi deemed unridable.
So only 2 champs? Not the greatest. Very good. But not the greatest
@noiseman1986 one on a bike no one else could even podium on and then continue to challenge every year for race wins and championshsips...
Wow, i have never heard Casey be so open and comfortable discussing such a wide variety of topics. And I think it has got to be the way you conduct the discussion/interview. You have knowledge about the subject and can relate. Well done
Thanks mate. Casey and I are pretty good mates too and I think that also helps. He knows I’m not after a scoop, just love hearing about his unreal life and career!
I agree I was going to say he has the 'it' factor when it comes to getting people to open up. Like our pal Joe, I think it's just because they're both down to earth guys who are humble, based and have real passion for talking to people. Great channel, very underrated.
top interview! Casey takes ownership of what is rightly his with grace and the right sort of modesty to tell the story. I could actually share his sense of fear and accomplishent at a visceral level! The next best thing to actually trying to do it yourself, I wish..
@@GYPSYTALES I wish I were an Aussie to be a good mate with you two... 😸😼
Best regards from Mexico mis hermanos (my brothers)!!! 🙏🏼🇦🇺🇲🇽
This blew my mind. To not only think of how to be fast through each corner by lines but setting the bike up including heating the tyre on the corners or braking straight before it. The man is a genius
Blew my mind too man. Crazy
I'd never thought a corner can give you 10 minutes of conversation. Really interesting.
I miss watching Casey race. It was something special
indeed
Thats insane! Thats the mentality of champions. You can understand why he was that good.
Yeah, really demonstrates why the top Moto GP riders are called aliens.
From someone who has ridden / raced PI, I can tell you that Casey’s approach into turn 3 @ over 250kph needs balls (massive) to take out that fear of loosing the front end… it’s somewhat of an onxi-moron approach…. He is one of a kind! 🙏
I was thinking the same! insane...
Casey was a monster on the bike!! A complete honor to follow him in his prime. Keem on rebuilding that health!!
Casey deserves an honorary doctorate from an Applied Physics faculty somewhere. And a bravery award. First physicist I have heard that makes complete sense.
MotoGP riders speak as much with their hands as with their mouths, you can almost understand the intervieuw without sound.
So good to be back at Phillip Island '22 !!
265kph 5 gear into the corner 'that's got to be 9 on the pucker factor scale ,wow !,just shows you how next level these guys are, absolutely mental, even a good rider would be yeah nah,nah no way haha ,great conversation 'thoroughly enjoyed it, and listening to Casey talk about his struggles and been so open about it ,very brave corageious, trulely a really nice man , and a good sportsman, don't blame him for getting out of the game,I remember him saying in an interview with someone, when you got riders trying to run you of the track at 300+ kph its time to get out of the game, Its cut throat, to much bad sportsman ship ,not worth dying for,will all ways be one of my favorite rider's, and in my opinion one of the best riders of all time,
They should rename the Phillip Island circuit after Casey Stoner. He is the king of that place !
I’ve been lucky enough to have ridden 2 ride days at Phillip island ( 6 twenty minute sessions novice group ) . Like a kid in a candy store….got the most grippy tyres , racing break pads even filled up and took an extra 7 litres of avgas … I held no illusion that I was the late blooming , unknown 196cm 100kg GP racer but there were no cars , no painted lines, manhole covers or cops. The speed Casey was going through turn 3 , I couldn’t get to down the main straight ( 235kph maybe) and I was feeling adrenaline running down my leg (it’s brown and smells) as turn 1 was coming up. Pure admiration for the focus he must have , let alone the skill. Excellent interview, you are really good at this, I can’t imagine it’s easy to pick the right questions
The other fascinating thing about this is the fact that nobody needed less practice laps than Casey. He would figure out the feedback for the engineers in very quick time unlike other riders that need many laps to figure things out. So to hear that he was testing so many things out in so few laps makes it that much more impressive.
that is one of the most common things I have heard other motogp riders say about Stoner. that he was fast as soon as he went out on the bike, whereas the other guys needed a handful of laps to understand the conditions/bike and find the limit, Stoner was able to understand all that and get up to speed right out of the gates.
@@wowbeezee and to do it while testing new parts is incredible. Such a talent.
One of the most naturally gifted riders to have ever done it. Just re-read his book, and his rise from Superteens in the UK, to the top is almost unbelievable. Privileged to have watched to win on the Island in both 2008 & 2012 🙌🏼 🇬🇧
That's one of the most badass techniques I've ever herd a rider explain your a legend casey stoner .I've watched my dad battle chronic fatigue my hole life I wish you all the best mate.
You're not allowed to introduce yourself for many good reasons.
All your comments just got hit away.
You must go through introductions first.
No introductions , No comments.
@@dreyn7780 what
What he’s explaining is truly remarkable. Especially when you’ve had the pleasure of watching him live go through that corner and see the speeds their doing and being a road racer how hard that would be to do.
No its dead boring just like you and we're sick of male gossip and copy each other.
I've Seen endless men copy each other and dob in other men and everyone gets a hard life because of it.
Its elementary school level behaviour.
They don't do speeds.
They do tasks to get around the circuit.
Essentially IT'S A CIRCLE.
They drive round and round doing complex tasks over and over.
@@robbiddlecombe8392 actually Capirossi won a race with GP7: Motegi 2007. The same round Stoner got crowned world champion.
@@robbiddlecombe8392 What? Rossi won zero races with Ducati from 2007 to 2010? well that's quite obvious since he wasn't riding for Ducati.
@@robbiddlecombe8392
"From 2007 through 2010 Stoner won 23 races on a Ducati. During those same years Capirosi, Hayden, and Rossi won zero" that's what you wrote, the problem is "during those same years" which implies that from the same time period between 2007 and 2010, Capirossi, Hayden and Rossi won no races which makes no sense because Rossi won many, you should have said that Capirossi and Hayden won no races as Stoner's teammates and that Rossi couldn't win either during his time at Ducati, simple.
Casey Stoner is the most under rated rider of his generation. So many people beating off about rossi i think they missed just how good casey was! Awesome vid, thanks gt. Going to look for the whole interview now.
Ironically his rivals were his biggest fans of his speed and skill. Lorentz, Rossi and Co always marvelled at his skill and quoted him as the most naturally talented. Marquez was gutted he missed racing him.
Ha haaa, i'm not surprised. They had the best view possible of him sliding through corners.@@fastjaydub
Such a shame he left when he did I feel he had much more to give to the fans, he was amazing to watch.
This was the time the Ducati GP bike was an evil animal, unknown to most of us until Lorenzo and Rossi couldn't get any consistent results out of it. Then many of us had to recalibrate the measure of C. Stoner. RESPECT.
what cracks me up with people like you is that
1/ Ducati changed tyres after Casey's title and never recovered. therefore the bike was already shit before Rossi came to Ducati. otherwise Casey would've stayed with them.
2/ Casey just tells us in this very video here that he never liked the front end of the bike and found a way to be faster by riding it "dirt track" style by drifting the rear to relieve the front end and avoid the crash. well ok but did Rossi ever ride in Dirt track competitions? no. therefore you can't ask a rider to do things he doesn't know about. hence why Rossi couldn't be fast with it because the front end was so horrible he couldn't get his line properly. as he couldn't drift it "Casey style", impossible to achieve anything with such bike.
conclusion: Casey won because of better tyres and a riding style that not many riders know. but at the same time it was extremely risky because he was a heavy tyre eater because of that riding style. many times his rear tyre was about to give up. some pictures showed that he probably had 1 or 2 laps left. while other riders still had some meat on them. i have hige respect for him but please stop making him the God he isn't. he's just a great amongst the greats. which is already the best you can hope for.
Was exceptionally fortunate enough to be a marshal at PI for all 6 of CS27s wins there. Got to see Casey take turn 3 like he describes on many an occasion - the dude is the best imo.
When Rossi ‘rode’ the duke he dropped it at MG (I was stationed there) and when the bike and he stopped sliding mr perfect got up and kicked the bike….. a Rizoma bar end happened to be in the grass adjacent to the bike that somehow happened to turn up in my tent 🤔….
Oh yeah, my avatar is a photo I took, at PI turn 12, of some Aussie dude you may have heard of: Mighty, mighty Mick Doohan.
Casey is amazing! So happy i was there for his 6 in a row at the island. I will never forget him coming out of MG bucking and weaving on the throttle 10m before anyone else on that bloody mental GP7. This is by far the best podcast you have done!
The GOAT of the 800cc era, big fan from Spain, keep it up Jase✊✊
Damn those were some boring years. If you couldn't get the bike set up for Sunday, good luck trying make up time with talent
@@Flacojandro What? boring years? you must be absolutely out of your mind, there were so many crazy/great battles in the 800cc era, you must know shit about MotoGP.
Valentino was the "doctor" when it came to racing, competing, tactics, strategy, but Casey undoubtedly had more raw speed (reflexes, feel - whatever else is involved) than anyone else in the 'diesel' era until that time. If only he'd stayed around just long enough to duel with Marc a few times, that would surely have been spectacular.
I took a photo from the rear end on every lap of the 2011 MotoGP from the Bass Straight grand stands. Casey said the weather wasn't that best. From memory there was slight drizzle, but he slid the bike through turn 3 for every lap apart from the first couple and the last lap. I hope to get him to sign one of the images when I meet him in a couple of months.
Yea mate I hear you , that’s pretty much how I do it at PI … (in my dreams ). .. Casey Stoner who won 10 races more than Rossi with all their head to head races wins against each other. Pretty .. pretty Good.
Stoner is a thinking mans rider. He was always learning and adapting in the premier class. Great interview and keep up the good work guys.
Casey is a genius! I miss watching him ride.
Been to all the Phillip Island Races watching Casey love turn 3 made you hair stand up on your neck watching him . Someone who did it as well was another Aussie great to watch was GARRY Mc COY forgot slider every GP rider loved riding behind him , especially vale .
The way he explains how to ride a motorcycle fast is probably the best I’ve ever heard.
so interesting listening to casey explain how he rides.. would love to hear more of him talking about technique
You need the gossip so you can copy.
@@dreyn7780 Put down the bong mate !!!
JEEZ, Stoner is a master of "the drift", rear wheel steering, slide, whatever you want to call it, i alway knew that there is a science to it, but the way that he explains it is just magic, he took every variable into consideration, & that,s what made him such a special rider. I could listen to him for hours.
I'm a massive Valentino rossi fan and have been for as long as I can remember .
But love casey because that man rode his bikes like he stole them. Massive amount of respect.x
Watching casey slide at corner is the most beautiful scene, so smooth and at racing line , miss him so bad
Your podcast has me giving all the respect to Cassie which I shoulda have given him years ago. Greatest natural talent in MotoGP. Full stop.
What I love about him and other MotoGP riders is the ability to dissect every corner at every track they race for years, prep for this corner, depending on the weather, tyre, fuel and bike characteristics, while racing others lap after lap after lap the fastest way possible.
Stoner Rocks! He is a first class gentleman
Smart, articulate and the best rider of all time!
I really like your podcasts, keep it up!
Mate massive fan of your channel! Would love to do the podcast with you in you’re keen?
@@GYPSYTALES Interested for sure!
High praise!
@@GYPSYTALES please make this happen boys!
Cause you can't think for yourself too.
You need to gossip so you can copy.
People don't seem to give Casey the same recognition as Gardiner or Doohan, but he was the most natural rider of the lot of them
Casey "Balls of Steel" Stoner..lol One of Best Ever to Race a GP Bike. Technics are awesome.
I can see what's going to happen next track day at PI!
How do you spell highside?
Incredible interview. I didn’t watch MotoGP during his time, but after listening to this podcast (still haven’t finished it all) I want to rewatch those seasons..
the race you want to watch is laguna seca in 2008. amazing to see him and rossi tussling for the lead, something happens but i wont spoil it for you.
@@BCzepa will do asap. Thanks!
He was absolutely spectacular on a bike, sliding his way to fastest laps.
He was an absolute legend and he proved it by being the only human that could tame the Ducati back in the day
That bike destroyed the careers of anybody that tried to tame it EXCEPT Casey Stoner
Pretty sure it was the carbon framed bike. After Rossi switched and couldn't figure out how to ride it's they switched to aluminum.
If I remember right.
@@JoshuaTootell Yeah man I can remember exactly I had a stoke
But I do remember Him saying - If they think it's bad now, they should have ridden when I did !
@@JoshuaTootell I remember a lot of riders complaining about the lack of front end feel as well with the bike that you didn’t know when the front end was gonna go
The Ducati bike from like 2009-2015 was an interesting bike even when they went back to an aluminium frame
@@revtec4267 that’s right mate , as soon as Rossi joined Ducati the development budget quadrupled , and off course Rossi’s pay quadrupled , even though he never got a podium in 2 years after slagging off Stoner beforehand , hey if Stoner can win on it it’s a no brainer for me.. hilarious 😂
Such a shame we never saw CS battle with MM. Those battles would of been legendary. Thanks CS for all you gave us.
Fantastic! Can't wait to listen to the rest of this interview. Could never understand why Stoner got stick for what he was like off the bike, when he was a fucking total monster on it, which is all that matters. I still miss watching him ride.
Love these road racer interviews!
Thank you for a great interview.
People! Think about the confidence one must have in the team that builds that bike? In the end of the interview Casey talks about the next session and working it out or crashing. REALLY!? Absolute, no questions about who put built this machine and the feeling that one can push it to to absolute max performance. this is why they make it to the top pedestal, and deservedly so. Impressive. Just absolutely impressive.
Love you Casey. Grew up watching guys like you in high school. Such a cool time to grow up getting into bikes. Love hearing from legendz
Amazing insights into the mind and techniques of a true genius of motorcycle racing. Thank you for this ❤
I could listen to Casey’s stories and wisdom nuggets all day
-CY Castor
Way to go brotherman, you have the road bike holy grail of podcast topics to your name haha 👌🏼
Top bloke, humble modest absolute legend on a bike
The way he casually talks about that maneuver…unreal.
Could listen to Casey all day long. Enjoy how he explains such a difficult thing to even just understand, such talent makes things so simple.
The analysis is just remarkable... Deadly effective ridingstyle & what a joy to look at!!
Badass guest this podcast! I always wondered what his technique was for that speed in the corner.
What. A. Calculator.
That was a freaking brilliant technical analysis of that cornering technique.
He probably doesnt even think when he rides. His team always said it, hes all instinct and feel and less about thinking
@@WestbrickFansGotNoBrains Yeah man, but you need to be able to think clearly after the fact to put together an analysis like that.
@@WestbrickFansGotNoBrains he had to think and sort that out while he was riding the bike and I'm sure he spent time off the bike going through it mentally as well. There's very few people who can do that.
Casey deserves so much more celebrity in Australia than he gets. I don't think the average aussie appreciates just how good he was.
Then again it's his preference not to have a high profile so...
dude, i am soooo happy that you are interviewing motogp legends! When you coming out to do a road race track day?
He just gave me the best riding lesson i ever had.
I’m a dirt guy all the way but man this guy is so fascinating to hear. Probably one of the best interviews I’ve seen. Great job guys
Fantastic conversation, thanks.
You two "clicked" and it was so neat the way you steered the conversation. Thank you both.
Man he really dominated and I see why now! Nice interview.
Excellent interview. No one rides quite like Casey!
Talent + Brains + Guts = World Champion
This was great!👍
Great guy. Always good to see him smile.
Definitely a rare sight
He was an amazing rider. Rode it like he stole it... I named my son after him 14 years back... A true great
Athletic, skilled and super smart gentleman with courage in spades. Casey was/is the real deal.
Anthony Gobert liked to Slide his ZX7RR Around Philip Island! Like Casey, Gobert was the P.I. Master!
Unlike CS, Gobert will be known for other things. Like being beaten so badly nobody recognised him in hospital
@@theairstig9164 A Classic case of Everyone wants to Kick you when your Down! Anthony has a few Demons & Drug Problems, but You Can't Take Away the Fact he was One of the Best Riders Australia has Ever Produced! If he gets Better & wants to hit the Track Again I Have a Zx7r Trackbike, It would be a Honour for him to Ride! 👍🍺
This man is one of the greatest of all time. Maybe even the best.
Wow amazing articulation... This guy knows his stuff
So awesome to hear the story behind turn 3. So glad I got to see it in person. The only other rider I saw drifting it there was Nicky Hayden but nothing like what Casey was doing.
Antony Gobert, Troy Corser, Gary McCoy, Marco Melandri......
Watch the vid and listen
Absolutely brilliant
Real interesting hearing it from the man himself. It would have been nice to have a little bit of a video showing up at the same time while he was explaining..
Absolutely incredible
Wow what a awsome, down to earth interview. I love this. Liked and SUBBED 👌
It's also very interesting because I use this technique in go karting and car racing. If there is corner I feel I'm getting understeer through the mid I'll encourage the rear to kick a touch out before I get to that point to help rotate the car more and get a better exit.
I also had to learn not to use this on every corner because some corners have enough grip to not be limited on understeer.
I don't normally click like on CZcams videos but I feel obligated to for this,
Amazing interview on both behalfs
"It was all me" - I can believe it only when Stoner says this.
I actually liked watching a truly analytical mind ride .
I was saddened by him retiring so soon
Just beautiful to watch him ride
Turn 3 at Philip Island totally a dirt track move. What commitment to pull that off at 260kph.
I had a soft spot for Casey, I ran a few club/amateur races and used the number 27 because of him; the way he explains is absolutely amazing. What a legend.
I was Impressed with Stoner Skill when he came in to MotoGP! If you ride bikes you understand why!
Rossi said that Casey was the most naturally fast rider he’s ever raced against👍
great, great technical interval.
Casey Stoner is our version of Valentino Rossi, Casey Stoner is one of the greats love the video to. And love from australia
Absolutely loved listening to Casey talk in such detail about his technique. And thank you for making such content that I didn’t even know existed. I would have never discovered it until someone from the local track community posted it on the facebook group. I wish you the best and I hope more people discover you. I’m obviously gonna share it with as many people i can. Cheers!
Amazing insight. Wow!
Hey Awesome interviews with Stoner & Mick Doohan, is there any chance you can interview Gary McCoy, he was respected for his sliding and dirt bike style by allot of us Aussies, as much Stoner, Doohan & Wayne Gardener, Keep them coming....Cheers
Brilliant riding albeit thru trial and error. Hanging it out for us seems crazy until you hear him explain how he did it all in the name of safety. The thoughts that go thru a professional racers mind…brilliant is all I can say. Casey, brilliant
I love to hear these elites dissect what they do. WOW !
1:40 You can see his internal ECU going through the process from his eyes
Took me a couple nights too watch all this but what a great interview. 👍 He's a maniac, straight up, and he's so calm about it. Good stuff right here!
Such a simple and easy to understand description of how to use a well tuned chassis in a different way to most l must admit l haven't done any road circuits but MX dirt tack and speedway and how good is it for a Moto Gp world champ to quote dirt track love it
that comment makes dirt bikes very relevant as a prerequisite for greatness