This man refused to shake the hand of the Norwegian Minister. Here's why
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00:00 Introduction
00:50 Haroon Qureshi refuses to shake hands
09:34 Responding to Assim Alhakeem
Shaking women's hand is haram but owning female concubines is alright.
What a logic.
Yes,those "concubines" are PRISONERS OF WAR...people who CHOOSE TO FIGHT Muslims.
You pagans should try reading more than one verse.
So many things circulate around s_x in Islam.
Source?
@@rosenbaumquartz literally the Quran
@@rosenbaumquartz Learn to code ..
I’d rather my husband shake another woman’s hand than give her flowers. He made that situation unnecessarily awkward.
True
Excellent point! Giving flowers is seen as romantic.
What I hate the most in this is that they make something as simple /innocent as handshake sexualized
Muhammad, everything is about sex even jannah. 😂
@@andrevisser7542bingo
They sexualize everything even young child and women...
Like the 72 white big b**bed virgins in Islamic fantasy heaven
In islam women are nothing but sex objects and servants.
Imagine a society where men and women are equal. The horror! 😱
Said the medieval man when introduced to the renaissance era
They aren't and never will be equal. Clarify what you mean. Now I'm not saying women should be controlled but I think gender roles are important too.
"Equal" is not the issue
Well his rights needs to be respected, I don't care about his religious beliefs.
I live in France and I met a fresh-off-the-boat Muslim Algerian man and he told me he had a long time adjusting to women in France because they are to be equal to men on French culture and it was a bother to him.
Access to internet is the beginning of the end for Islam.
Islam will only grow bigger unless western countries they stop patronising it for sake of diversity.
Yes.indeed. and hopefully STUPID Western Countries finally learn, what Islam is really all about.
And unironically radicalized them with even bigger bubble too
And that thanks to the social media algorithm of CZcams, Facebook, Instagram and so on
People always said that 🤣
Got debunked with their arguments💀
Yet islam is the only religion that is grown unstoppable 💀
And Christian people being the most to leave Christianity 🤣
Lmao💀
funny when they claim they don't shake hands with opposite gender, but Muhammad walked in public holding hands with female slaves belonging to someone else
Anas bin Malik said, "Any of the female slaves of Medina could take hold of the hand of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and take him wherever she wished." Sahih al-Bukhari 6072
It was narrated that Anas bin Malik said:
“If a female slave among the people of Al-Madinah were to take the hand of the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ), he would not take his hand away from hers until she had taken him wherever she wanted in Al-Madinah so that her needs may be met.” Sunan Ibn Majah 4177
BRO I NEED THE LINK TO THE ARABIC ITS SO FUNNY 😂
The holy prophet had quite some groceries to carry for the female slaves who took him all over Medinah.
@@AbdulRahman-bi1nu
It’s all on line. Everyone can read it now.
Mohammed the toyboy for free?
It does make you feel dehumanized when Muslim men treat you like that. My brother in law used to come into my house and not even say “hello” to me, let alone shake my hand.
I completely agree
But he couted your sister with great kindnesd and smiled at you before marrige. He wanted your blonde sister reminding of the 72 houri. Now that he got your dister, cares a fuck about you. But if you say you want to divorce and marry him, he will readily agree. Islam's religion lies below belt
Whether you feel dehumanised is fully a result of your own mindset and attitude, not of the act of refusing to shake hands. You can /choose/ here. If you feel dehumanised by such behaviour, it's your choice, your issue, and you should deal with by yourself, preferably in silence.
I lived in a muslim country for years, and had quite some women refusing to shake my hand. Nothing about that was dehumanising, I just observed they were probably not the brightest or most flexible minds in the mix, and was able to have joyful relations with them nonetheless.
To compare: it's not like when someone stabs you, a stab wound would inevitably be a result without you having choice in that outcome...
Personally, I don't think that the closest family have to shake hands because everyone already know that you are on friendly terms. If a hand is offered, (still my opinion) it's always a HUGE insult to not respond in gest.
I see the 'not even say hello' part as a larger problem. Several friends and relatives have keys to my house but I wouldn't hesitate baning them for life if they entered without my expressed consent. Some of them have permission to enter if they haven't heard from me in a couple of days (I'm dead. Save my dog) but I wouldn't accept anyone entering without banging the door for 10 minutes or more.
Unnecessary long text to show the situation, follow.
Cool comparison: several years ago I became I'll at work. I soldered on and came home at the same time as always. I had puked several times at work an felt weak as a kitten on tranquilizers. I live alone so I began making a fast snack before going to bed. After only a few seconds, I became so dizzy that I couldn't stand up. I turned of the stove (so I thought) and ended up taking a 70 hour nap on the floor of my main bathroom. I was awakened by my dog gnawing on my ear.
I used about 15 000% of my power to scold him before I went back to sleep. This was repeated two more times before I understood that I had to open my eyes and look at him to make him understand the importance of him doing as told.
Somehow I managed to do so and hence noticed that the house was full with thick black smoke (the kitchen was on fire for such a long time that the fire alarms was was out of battery).
I managed to put out the fire and turn of the stove that somehow worked after being set closer to minimum power than no power for days, before I went outside with the dog. For some reason I felt like I was superhuman if I only could have taken a breath without caughing.
It was early morning on December 23 when I got home and the first person to actually reach me was my boss (she called my private phone). She wondered why I hadn't responded to emergencies for several days without even calling in sick. I explained and said that I won't come in for a week.
I took a fast glance at my 3 phones (it was 12 years ago so it was an impressive amount at the time) and found almost 600 missed calls and about 2000 sms and mails.
I later learned that several of my working buddies had been at my house twice a day (once in uniform and once in private clothes). They contacted my closest naighbor and managed to borrow a ladder so they could knock on the windows on the second floor.
Some of them had keys and all of them had legal right to, in this situation, enter any house in the country without asking for permission. They did however value my privacy above that right.
In hindsight, they should have entered the first day.
Tell him that the next time before he enters your house that if he doesn’t greet you properly first and shake your hand and do the same with others in your family, that he cannot enter your house.
Your house, your rules.
Take it or leave it.
Giving flowers can be seen as a romantic gesture when handshakes are not. I’d be taken aback to be given flowers by a complete stranger. It would probably make me uncomfortable as I could well think they were flirting with me
She is smart , no wonder she is a minster, the next smart thing she should try is to get rid of these people
There was a guy like this at my university. I had to do some group work with him and he refused to look at me...The guy wanted to become a teacher!
Flowers are not a substitute for a hand shake, instead they even make it worse because the person who recieves them has to appreciate them and show gratitude by shaking your hand😂😂
Do you need to force your culture on others? She initiated the handshake.
@@TexasHoosier3118 hypocrite
Three points. Giving flowers is condescending & implies that the giver is superior to the receiver. Secondly giving flowers to every woman you meet socially or formally is not logistically practicle or even possible on some days...how many bouqets does he expect to carry every day when he moves into social situations & how would he need to throw away for those that were not given for that day? Thirdly, giving flowers is also the equivalent of the "Hold my glass" one up manship to dminish & "fix" the other person's status.
I think giving flowers to a woman is far more of an invite than shaking her hand for two seconds..
I wish she should have accepted the flowers and thrown them on the floor. But I can be small minded and she is obviously better than that !
He was actually thinking that it makes him look better to his religious value but he forgot that its a clear defamation for that lady who is actually a minister and she deals with many men everyday.
They always have this way of defaming their religion too..
No wonder most ex Muslims always testify of having breath fresh air moment they walked out of Islam...
Would he be this rude if he had a woman for a boss?
The main issue with these hypocrites is placing their ridiculous values & religious beliefs above the law of the country that took them in. Period.
A hypocrite would cave to man made laws over true religious convictions. I follow the laws of the land until they conflict with the laws of God. God is first in all things.
@@TexasHoosier3118 Are you able to come up with a God that is able to formulate a code of ethics and religion that is universally valid for all humankind regardless of race, culture, creed & gender/LBGTQI??? Until then you are better of believing in the tooth fairy.
@@TexasHoosier3118 🤡
@@TexasHoosier3118 Maybe you are living in the wrong country, then if you see there is a conflict between the two.
@@kristinazboodram173 Our generation didn't colonise anyone, anywhere. Past colonisation isn't an excuse to perpetrate crimes like those currently happening in France, with past colonisation being used as an excuse. People who choose to move to a secular country should be mindful of the fact that they have the right to practice their religion freely there, with equal rights, instead of expecting that culture to modify itself to suit their religious wants.
It's amusing how Arab Muslims forget Arab Islamic colonialism and the Islamic slave trade, choosing to demonise the West for its past atrocities, but glorifying Islam, which rode roughshod over the entire Levant and North Africa, even going further afield to colonise land, homogenising its people until their only identity was "Arab Muslim" (or Arab Christian, if they paid the Jizzya!)
Great to see her say something about Islam and their behavior, not just sweeping it under the carpet as is expected of us.
As ex muslim, I also acted this way in the past. When I met any non muslim women, I'd just nod my head and smile when she offers her hand. I only thought of guarding myself, but never thought of how the woman felt when I refused to shake hand...
A superb response, but Isylum is not known for its empathetic compassion and consideration for others is it!
She´s ok. If not, she´s probably a narcissist. "mirror, mirror on the wall..."
@@jesperlykkeberg7438 🤡
True... How can a Muslim justify by saying "It's a sign of respect" but denying to shake her is the same as disrespecting her. Think about it, if you tried shaking a hand and the woman just ignores you. How would you feel?
@@jesperlykkeberg7438exactly
Like the teacher was being overdramatic and caused a scene unnecessary by trying to force him to shake her hand lol like she could've just respected his decision but rather imposed her own really shameful behavior from someone whose supposed to be setting an example for children
Same thing happened to a principal last week or so. Some kids in Norway were graduating and she was going to shake their hands and they refused and screamed “haram”.
They are kids born and raised in Norway…
I have seen it with my own eyes in places where you shake hands, fornication and adultery happens a lot. You may see it as a correlation, but what's really happening is that when you see nothing wrong with this physical touch between two unmarried people, *it creates room to normalize physical touch of all kinds between two unmarried people.*
@@kakarote100 you need to clean your mind mate. That way of thinking isn’t healthy at all. I hope you go to therapy and recover soon❤️
@@MD-zr1wy Also notice those western countries with the best mental health care systems has the highest number of suicides. *Meaning getting therapy, as a coping mechanism, is as good as not getting it.* Get a religion, mate. I assure you, you'll cope better.
@@kakarote100
😂😂😂😂😂
Still trying so desperately hard to lie do as to divert any attention on your dead Arab prophet again, eh, Abdul?
😂😂😂😂😂
Whoever can guarantee Mohd sex and food, gets paradise!
Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2408
Sahl bin Sa'd narrated that the Messenger of Allah (s.a.w) said: "Whoever guarantees for me what is between his jaws and what is between his legs, I shall guarantee Paradise for him."
حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الأَعْلَى الصَّنْعَانِيُّ، حَدَّثَنَا عُمَرُ بْنُ عَلِيٍّ الْمُقَدَّمِيُّ، عَنْ أَبِي حَازِمٍ، عَنْ سَهْلِ بْنِ سَعْدٍ، قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم " مَنْ يَتَكَفَّلُ لِي مَا بَيْنَ لَحْيَيْهِ وَمَا بَيْنَ رِجْلَيْهِ أَتَكَفَّلُ لَهُ بِالْجَنَّةِ " . وَفِي الْبَابِ عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ وَابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ . قَالَ أَبُو عِيسَى حَدِيثُ سَهْلٍ حَدِيثٌ حَسَنٌ صَحِيحٌ غَرِيبٌ مِنْ حَدِيثِ سَهْلِ بْنِ سَعْدٍ .
Also:
* tirmidhi:2409
* bukhari:6474
* bukhari:6807
* riyadussalihin:1519
* riyadussalihin:1513
This minor issue is indicative of a greater malaise in Islam's attitude to women.
Truth
And their lack of desire to integrate into the community.
So his wife prefers him giving a woman flowers instead of shaking her hand which is custom to the country they live in, please give us a break.
They are hypocrites!
I believe westerners don't know the actual definition of "hypocrites" in the actual Islamic terms...
They should make enquiry about Islam before becoming this porous on immigration..
I think it's weird that generally as soon as Muslims migrate to a western country, that they know has completely different, values, norms, and culture, they expect, not only, complete equally, but for the existing society to embrace aspects of their culture/religion that clash with the host society. It is as if their actions are purposefully designed to present an ideological challenge to the society they have migrated to. Like they are saying, no we will do things our way. And the other thing is in virtual every Muslim country, almost no concessions are ever made for non - Muslims and especially Christians.
Exactly.
As a westerner and a guy, If someone had refused to shake my hand, I’d interpret that as hostile. If these men had their minds in the gutter, it’s still polite to observe the courtesies
I would not bow to an Asian, as I believe I should only bow to God. How is this different.
@@TexasHoosier3118 It's not. You're just as bad.
@@TexasHoosier3118try to not pretend to be a slave of Islam, Dhimmi.
😂😂😂😂😂
My SIL is a convert, she wasn’t going to come to our wedding because it’s mixed, and even though she didn’t bring her children because we might corrupt them and her brothers gay, she spent the whole time being just with another lady by themselves. Her partner also doesn’t look me in my face or talk to me if we are alone he turns his back to me and just ignores me it’s so rude and weird.
Tell him that the next time before he enters your house that if he doesn’t greet you properly first and shake your hand and do the same with others in your family, that he cannot enter your house.
Your house, your rules.
Take it or leave it.
@@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid oh they don’t come to our house anymore, since i became Christian I wasn’t worth their time and effort. 🤷🏾♀️ and the religion is the truth where pride is actually encouraged?
Muslims always use the standard of truth according to the teachings of their religion. all non-Muslims are forced to follow and obey the way Islam is taught to Muslims even though they live in non-Muslim countries. Muslims should be the ones who have to follow the rules made by non-Muslims where they live, not the other way around.
What law did he break?
@@jesperlykkeberg7438t not law but norm, but what he obey is islamic law. If you as minority in muslim majority you will know what is like.
@@jesperlykkeberg7438 law of basic human decency and treating people equally.
their book prohibits them to adapt...
@@djaflo because in their believe their book is law from god and it should above all law make by human. So they can steal from non muslim is god law. When law by human say you cannot steal from other human whatever their race, religion, gender.
This is a prime example of why many Muslim's will struggle to live in non-Islamic countries in harmony, the expectations that everyone will bend to their views. The problem is they expect absolute adherence to Islamic rules when non-Muslim people live in their lands, for example head covering by women regardless if they practice Islam or not. Can't have it both ways.
The Muslims only goal is to subjugate the infidel countries in every way they know how.
Truth, doubles standards
What seems to happen is the parents escape shit countries and the children seem to romanticise their origin.
In sweden and norway it's even common to greet with a handshake AND a hug if you've met a person ones before. It's not sexual on any level, but giving respect and invite to the group on a deeper level.
I have seen it with my own eyes in places where you shake hands, fornication and adultery happens a lot. You may see it as a correlation, but what's really happening is that when you see nothing wrong with this physical touch between two unmarried people, *it creates room to normalize physical touch of all kinds between two unmarried people.*
@@motmot2694
‘A’ishah (may Allah be pleased with her) said: The Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said to them [the women]: “You may leave, for I have accepted your oath of allegiance.” No, by Allah, *the hand of the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) never touched the hand of a woman; rather he accepted their oath of allegiance verbally.”* Narrated by al-Bukhari (4891) and Muslim (1866).
@@kakarote100 🤡
@@kakarote100 if that were the case you would be sleeping with your own daughters. Are you?
Women can sleep with the prophet but he can choose who he wants!!
Quran 33:50, 51
O Prophet, We have permitted to you your spouses to whom you have given their dowries, and those whom you rightfully possess from what Allah has granted you, and the daughters of your paternal uncle, and the daughters of your paternal aunts, and the daughters of your maternal uncle, and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you, and a believing woman-if she grants herself to the Prophet1, if the Prophet wishes to marry her;(this is) exclusively for you, and not for the believers. We already know what We have ordained for them regarding their spouses and those whom they rightfully possess; this is to spare you any discomfort. And Allah has always been Oft-Forgiving, Bestowing of mercy.
- Fadel Soliman, Bridges’ translation
O Prophet! Lo! We have made lawful unto thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowries, and those whom thy right hand possesseth of those whom Allah hath given thee as spoils of war, and the daughters of thine uncle on the father's side and the daughters of thine aunts on the father's side, and the daughters of thine uncle on the mother's side and the daughters of thine aunts on the mother's side who emigrated with thee, and a believing woman if she give herself unto the Prophet and the Prophet desire to ask her in marriage - a privilege for thee only, not for the (rest of) believers - We are Aware of that which We enjoined upon them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands possess - that thou mayst be free from blame, for Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.
- Pickthall
O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
- Yusuf Ali
O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation1 and those your right hand possesses from what Allah has returned to you [of captives] and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you and a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her; [this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers. We certainly know what We have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess, [but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort [i.e., difficulty]. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.
- Saheeh International
O Prophet (Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم)! Verily, We have made lawful to you your wives, to whom you have paid their Mahr (bridal-money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage), and those (slaves) whom your right hand possesses - whom Allâh has given to you, and the daughters of your ‘Amm (paternal uncles) and the daughters of your ‘Ammât (paternal aunts) and the daughters of your Khâl (maternal uncles) and the daughters of your Khâlât(maternal aunts) who migrated (from Makkah) with you, and a believing woman if she offers herself to the Prophet, and the Prophet wishes to marry her - a privilege for you only, not for the (rest of) the believers. Indeed We know what We have enjoined upon them about their wives and those (slaves) whom their right hands possess, in order that there should be no difficulty on you. And Allâh is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
- Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din al-Hilali & Muhammad Muhsin Khan
يَـٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلنَّبِىُّ إِنَّآ أَحْلَلْنَا لَكَ أَزْوَٰجَكَ ٱلَّـٰتِىٓ ءَاتَيْتَ أُجُورَهُنَّ وَمَا مَلَكَتْ يَمِينُكَ مِمَّآ أَفَآءَ ٱللَّهُ عَلَيْكَ وَبَنَاتِ عَمِّكَ وَبَنَاتِ عَمَّـٰتِكَ وَبَنَاتِ خَالِكَ وَبَنَاتِ خَـٰلَـٰتِكَ ٱلَّـٰتِى هَاجَرْنَ مَعَكَ وَٱمْرَأَةً مُّؤْمِنَةً إِن وَهَبَتْ نَفْسَهَا لِلنَّبِىِّ إِنْ أَرَادَ ٱلنَّبِىُّ أَن يَسْتَنكِحَهَا خَالِصَةً لَّكَ مِن دُونِ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ ۗ قَدْ عَلِمْنَا مَاt فَرَضْنَا عَلَيْهِمْ فِىٓ أَزْوَٰجِهِمْ وَمَا مَلَكَتْ أَيْمَـٰنُهُمْ لِكَيْلَا يَكُونَ عَلَيْكَ حَرَجٌ ۗ وَكَانَ ٱللَّهُ غَفُورًا رَّحِيمًا
Quran verses above is related to the Hadith below:
Sunan an-Nasa'i 5031
It was narrated that Ibn 'Abbas said: "The delegation of 'Abdul-Qais came to the Messenger of Allah [SAW] and said: 'We are a group of people from (the tribe of) Rabi'ah, and we can only reach you during the sacred month. Tell us something that we can take from you and to which we may call those who are behind us.' He said: 'I command you to do four things and I forbid you from four: Faith in Allah'- and he explained that to them- 'bearing witness that there is none worthy of worship except Allah, establishing Salah, paying Zakah, and giving me one-fifth (the Khumus) of the spoils of war you acquire. And I forbid you from Ad-Dubba', Al-Hantam, Al-Muqayyir, and Al-Muzaffat.'"
أَخْبَرَنَا قُتَيْبَةُ قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا عَبَّادٌ وَهُوَ ابْنُ عَبَّادٍ عَنْ أَبِي جَمْرَةَ عَنْ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ قَالَ قَدِمَ وَفْدُ عَبْدِ الْقَيْسِ عَلَى رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ فَقَالُوا إِنَّا هَذَا الْحَيَّ مِنْ رَبِيعَةَ وَلَسْنَا نَصِلُ إِلَيْكَ إِلَّا فِي الشَّهْرِ الْحَرَامِ فَمُرْنَا بِشَيْءٍ نَأْخُذُهُ عَنْكَ وَنَدْعُو إِلَيْهِ مَنْ وَرَاءَنَا فَقَالَ آمُرُكُمْ بِأَرْبَعٍ وَأَنْهَاكُمْ عَنْ أَرْبَعٍ الْإِيمَانُ بِاللَّهِ ثُمَّ فَسَّرَهَا لَهُمْ شَهَادَةُ أَنْ لَا إِلَهَ إِلَّا اللَّهُ وَأَنِّي رَسُولُ اللَّهِ وَإِقَامُ الصَّلَاةِ وَإِيتَاءُ الزَّكَاةِ وَأَنْ تُؤَدُّوا إِلَيَّ خُمُسَ مَا غَنِمْتُمْ وَأَنْهَاكُمْ عَنْ الدُّبَّاءِ وَالْحَنْتَمِ وَالْمُقَيَّرِ وَالْمُزَفَّتِ
my first experience with Muslims were with exchange students from Turkey who would shake hands, greet with huge smile, cook food together. It is appalling to see Muslims who refuse to just greet a non Muslim or even to serve food because they cannot touch the impures...
They can't compromise their customs but you have to do it for them.
I heard that it is very common for women attending the Haj to be physically groped when walking in the crowds.
Should the tolerant tolerate the intolerant?
How?
@@jesperlykkeberg7438 I watched an interview with a Muslim woman who said that they are not supposed to wear under ware when they walk around the the Kaaba and that she and every woman that she has spoken to said that in the crush of the crowd men would touch their breasts of backside.
@@sulas548 And how is that me compromising anything? I´m normally not touching the breasts of any stranger in public.
@@jesperlykkeberg7438 🤡
So misyar marriage is ok,concubinage is halal but shaking hands with women is not ?
Who cares? You don't want them deciding norms in your community 🙄
Don’t forget marital rape.
@@tbishop4961yeah but cultures are not equal
@@sumiben5211 totally irrelevant
@@sumiben5211 may as well have told me how much you saved on car insurance by switching to geicko
I think the doctrine makes total sense when you recognize that this law was likely made so none of Momo's followers would steal one his favorite wives.
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That would be Aisha the nine-year-old.
Dude was scared of being cucked even after his death. What a worldly man! Yet he promised us all jannat, when he couldn't get over his insecurities in the dunya, when he couldn't save his own family from jahannam.
LMFAOAOA you all are so sad!!!! I feel bad for you all… go back to sleep now. 😂
@@Whozcooking Imagine showing up a month later and still couldn't think of anything clever to say.
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@@ericfisher1360 definitely wasn’t trying to be clever. I was being sincere buddy.
If he views shaking hands as being sexual in some way then does he shake hands with men?
because its amen nothing is going to happen are you that stupid
There is an even worse example in Norway when a line of people were waiting for the crown prince of Norway to come through, and as he did, the custom is to respectfully acknowledge that waiting line-up and shake each and everyone's hand - about 8 people - and at the end was a Muslim woman. And as the crown prince extended his hand she pulled her hands close to her person to reject the crown prince's handshake and stood there and *watched* the crown prince extend his and waited and extended it again and waited, before he realised that she was deliberately refusing to shake his hand, publicly embarrassing him. Guys, that was soooo damn sad to watch this happen to this crown prince of Norway, she made him look belittled, even shamed by what she did.
But check out the hypocrisy of these people: take the same Muslim woman and place her in front of the king of say Saudi Arabia going through a line of waiting dignitaries to shake their hands and she would shake his hand noooooooooo problem, with a big smile. See the extent of Muslims' hypocrisy? Whenever there is a Muslim female in such a line up and it's a king of a Muslim country they shake the Muslim man's hand - and we've seen this over and over.
I´ll admit Muslim women their full rights not to see themselves as worthy of shaking the hand of Norway´s crown prince as if he was truly a divine being. That´s really cute.
@@jesperlykkeberg7438 Neither are the dignitaries or kings or princes of Muslim countries whose hands hypocrite female Muslims readily shake divine. It has nothing to do with people being divine - so stop being an idiot with these stupid replies. Your replies are symptomatic of just how senseless Islam makes its followers. You all follow a bunch of man-made rules that you elevate to divine status, and it makes you all appear like confused hypocrites.
If she did that to the Saudi king he would chop her hand
Why was she waiting in the line? 😅
It sometimes stems beyond the handshake thing..
Sometimes it goes to the point of you not being a Muslim.. so they don't want to get themselves equally yoked with unbelievers
If you see whats going on in Mecca at hadjh well all values are thrown over board !!!
Even a handshake is sexual in Islam. Who thinks like this???
If he does shake hands with men, but not with women , then he is discriminating.
You can see male friends in muslim countries walking hand in hand.
See my comment. Men pass on bacteria through handshaking the same as women. It is the women in childbearing age or pregnant whose hands should not be shaken. Western research proves bacteria passed until 8th handshake.
When in Rome, do as the Romans. I would accept not shaking hands with a man in Muslim countries. But in non Muslim countries, I would expect it, and if rejected, I would be very suspicious of the person. How does he think of women in general? What other issues would arise? Could a woman train him, would he respect a female supervisor, be in the office alone with a woman? Use the same unisex bathroom? I wouldn't trust him.
You're right about the crazy contradictions. Can't she hands with a woman or you'll go to hell, but have sex with your slaves and underage wife.
This always makes me feel terrible when I see it.
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It's always the double standards of being tolerant and accepting of different cultural norms: only we Europeans are expected to adapt and put up with everything for the sake of multiculturalism. Not to accept a handshake isn't just a bit rude. It is offensive to the extreme and a deliberate humiliation of the person who offered her hand as a sign of peace and goodwill.
Now Europeans are trained from an early age not to react violently when insulted but try to argue verbally with the offender instead. I feel like this isn't really appreciated by our numerous guests. They are just laughing at our weakness and brazenly exploit our propensity to self criticism.
This is called adjusting in a country where it is polite to greet someone with a handshake. For example, if I go to Iran, as a woman I also have to adapt and cover my body and hair. This man must free himself from the fact that there are other manners in Norway and simply adapt.
There is no Islamic sharia law in Norway.
The problem is immigration process
They should test people ideologically
No russia no islam (strict)
Why not racially? Why not financially? Liberal or conservative values? No Christians. No Buddhists.
@@TexasHoosier3118 .what ?
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Damn, that's so rude.
If I was a women I would be so much more angered by this.
Because why do you wanna force your values the women fought so hard to get rid off in their nation's history.
Female muslims declining handshakes with men is fine. No one cares.
But if a muslim man doesn´t go down on his knees and lick the boots of the narcissist woman in power she´s being "descriminated" and "dehumanized". Lol.
Im glad the Minister spoke out and said it like it is. When we let small things slide, gradually small things turn into big things that turn into norms and traditions. A lot of women, and men, have given their lifes to give women the rights they have today. This should be remembered
When I'm at a supermarket I have to use my shopping trolley to stop women jumping on me and kissing me.
The perils of western society 😔
How I make use of the shopping cart is to hold scores of hysterical women back when I´m jumping the queue to get ahead of them all while at the same time reassuring them that I fully respect their right to preserve all their old fashioned queue-cultural norms just as they should also then on equal terms accept my progressive culture of jumping the queue in the name of tolerance and inclusion. If the mere encounter with other cultures is disturping to them perhaps they should learn to work with themselves to become more tolerant human beings. As a very caring person I will always offer to guide women to the ladies´ bathroom where they can go and cry in privacy when they are upset just to ensure nobody aren´t being bothered by their pathetic moaning.
Oh, ladies´ rooms, right. As a modern man I really don´t have a problem with the current Scandinavian norms of implementing gender-neutral toilets where men´s urinals have been removed. As long as there is at least a hand-washing sink men can pee into that´s fine with me. I´m very tolerant.
Why does everybody just talk about how to treat an european woman? She's part of the government. He did not only offend her, but the government by this. No excuse. He might have asked somebody about that dilemma. He did not even realise the problem, and the minister was seemingly too polite to adress this point.
Indeed, nobody dared to do so with our chanceloress Merkel, and only one tried that with our female minister of defense - and this case was dealt with by calling in the embassadors of that nation. That's the rank of his "impoliteness".
Don't get too close, imagine it's Maryam the kopt.
They will not touch women's hand but they do not shy from handouts,benefits
It was like this a few years ago in Sweden too. The then Prime Minister was on the street but Muslim women did not want to shake his hand. But it all started with a Muslim male politician who didn't want to take a woman by the hand. This prime minister had said that in Sweden we shake hands or greet each other by shaking hands. A little unsure of where exactly was said. It ended with this Muslim politician having to resign from his post
Obviously I don't believe that regular Muslims don't shake hands with the opposite sex for malicious or oppressive reasons, it's simply a religious norm for most.
However in the context of a western environment it is 'problematic', in that the handshake isn't just a norm of greeting and friendliness, but also a way to seal deals and make agreements informally, which kinda excludes women from the world of business entirely.
Women should not work. My opinion tho.
That's why you can't seal a deal with muslim men.
No. it´s not problematic. Handshakes as a "norm" has absolutely no essence, but is rather often used as intimidation tactics by people in power who want to enforce their will upon others.
@@jesperlykkeberg7438 That's a wild assertion. Where did you get that from?
@@jesperlykkeberg7438 That comment is just....................... stupid.
Zakir Naik (universally accepted as an expert on Islamic theology) said:
If a Muslim wishes a Christian "Merry Christmas" or wishes a Hindu "Happy Diwali"....they will burn in the Hell fires for all Eternity.
This is because they have equated another God with Allah. One of the worst sins in Islam.
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Zakir naik secretly eats pork
Well thats what people might claim he said; no one can actually understand a word that dude says.
😂😂😂
Ask CP to imitate Zakir! You will die laughing!😅😂, LoL 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@jonahtisamphd.6101 I understand CP's impression better than Zakir himself.
Frankly speaking as a person, she would have felt humiliated even with the gesture of flowers and putting his hand on his chest to show respect. What would have gone through the mind of the minister: am I that low that my greetings are not returned in the same manner. I would feel the same too when you are in my country where we practised this way of greeting. What Fahad Qureshi should have done is communicated to the Minister's press secretary informing her that he cannot shake with her due to his religiosity.
Given that people from that part of the world don't wash their hands I think she dodged a bullet on that one.
Lol 😂 you have no knowledge whatsoever apart of being Muslim is being clean everytime you use the bathroom and everytime you pray…. I think you got this one wrong pal😂 it’s the other way around. So sad that your just too stupid to understand… we wash all through out the day hands feet face private ears nose neck ankles all day everyday 😂😂😂😂😂😂 now go back to sleep
Well done Abdullah👍
He should hv said firmly that it's my religion's order n i hv right to follow it , instead of giving false reason,i.e., it's only wifes right...
To avoid awkward situation, he should put a sticker saying, I'm sorry, I don't do handshake.
Muslim are born liers 😂😂😂😂
@@majeromajero7330yea
Yeah, since there's no logical reason to not wanting to shake a woman's hand...
No, he shouldn’t be in a country where he cannot show courtesy to everyone according to the traditions of the country he is in. Period.
The more they follow their teaching, more crazy they are
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This is called Shomer Negiyah in strictly Orthodox (Haredi) Judaism. Secular female cashiers tend to find it highly offensive when Haredi men place their cash on the counter instead of in the hand of the cashier, then put their hand down so that the cashier has to put the change on the counter too. People who live in highly populated Jewish or Muslim areas know about this and just get used to what to expect. It's up to them at the end of the day. I used to have to be like that because of my ex husband's nonsense and I HATED it. Long story which I will not get into here...
I think the gender segregation laws lead to way more problems than normal mixing do. Gender segregation is focused on the behaviour of the lowest common denominator, who change out of their religious clothing to go find secular women in nightclubs anyway 😂😂... like my ex husband did 😂😂😂
This is obviously crazy behavior and reminds me of one of my favorite quotes: "If the rule you followed brought you to this, of what use was the rule?", so, paraphrasing: if the rule you follow leads you to worry about shaking hands with a women, of what use was the rule? It's also sad that ugly behavior can be somehow justified just because they say it's part of religion. I think this kind of 'get out' should be frowned upon personally. Just because it is 'part of your religion' is zero justification imo. People say 'when in Rome' with justification, because to do otherwise is just-at the very least- plain rude.
"if the rule you follow leads you to worry" You are not talking about Covid restrictions, of course. Lol.
@@jesperlykkeberg7438 let me guess, you're into Bitcoin? (lol)
I now have an image in my head of the absurd scenario of this sheikh meandering down the street trying to keep his distance from every woman, crossing the road, doubling back on himself, going round the block. Hugging the walls or standing in the corner of a room or looking for an empty seat on the bus just to avoid women. How does this guy get anywhere? It could take him an hour just to walk to his local shop. 😂
Whem a muslim man sees a women, he only thinks about a hole, hole hole
actually no
where do you get these Info from
It's amusing my hand holds so much power to make these dudes look ridiculous. 😂
U r doing a fantastic job my friend.
God bless you..🙏🙏🙏
Thank you!
Another excellent video. Thank you
I lived in an 15lam1c country for several years. I complied with all the social norms, as everybody should. Not shaking hands appears rather aggressive.
I have seen it with my own eyes in places where you shake hands, fornication and adultery happens a lot. You may see it as a correlation, but what's really happening is that when you see nothing wrong with this physical touch between two unmarried people, *it creates room to normalize physical touch of all kinds between two unmarried people.*
@@kakarote100wtf😂😂 rape, domestic violence and forced marriages happen a lot in countries where shaking hands with opposite gender is not considered normal.. see the correlation? 💩
@@mmnde12 That makes no sense the physical contact called "zina" is haram so is any other physical contact.
If zina is a norm around you, so are all physical contacts the norm around you.
@@kakarote100 This is ALL FAKE in islam. mahamed (POLICE BE UPON HIM) was a sex maniac. 13 wives, sex slaves, killing his adopted son and lusting after his wife and taking her after, child sex. pedoFILE. Here is the biggest issue :
women have half a brain
sahih al-bukhari 2658, book 52, hadith 22 - The Prophet said, "Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?" The women said, "Yes." He said, "This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind."
Wife’s obligation to husband
إِذَا دَعَا الرَّجُلُ امْرَأَتَهُ إِلَى فِرَاشِهِ فَأَبَتْ، فَبَاتَ غَضْبَانَ عَلَيْهَا، لَعَنَتْهَا الْمَلاَئِكَةُ حَتَّى تُصْبِحَ
If a husband calls his wife to his bed and she refuses and causes him to sleep in anger, the angels will curse her till morning. [Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 59, Hadith 48]
وَالَّذِي نَفْسُ مُحَمَّدٍ بِيَدِهِ لاَ تُؤَدِّي الْمَرْأَةُ حَقَّ رَبِّهَا حَتَّى تُؤَدِّيَ حَقَّ زَوْجِهَا وَلَوْ سَأَلَهَا نَفْسَهَا وَهِيَ عَلَى قَتَبٍ لَمْ تَمْنَعْهُ
By the One in Whose Hand is the soul of Muhammad! No woman can fulfill her duty towards Allah until she fulfills her duty towards her husband. If he asks her (for intimacy) even if she is on her camel saddle, she should not refuse. [Sunan Ibn Majah, Vol. 3, Book 9, Hadith 1853]
إِذَا الرَّجُلُ دَعَا زَوْجَتَهُ لِحَاجَتِهِ فَلْتَأْتِهِ وَإِنْ كَانَتْ عَلَى التَّنُّورِ
When a man calls his wife for his need, then let her come, even if she is at the oven. [Jami` at-Tirmidhi, Book 12, Hadith 15]
إِذَا بَاتَتِ الْمَرْأَةُ مُهَاجِرَةً فِرَاشَ زَوْجِهَا لَعَنَتْهَا الْمَلاَئِكَةُ حَتَّى تَرْجِعَ
If a woman spends the night deserting her husband’s bed (does not sleep with him), then the angels send their curses on her till she comes back (to her husband). [Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 67, Hadith 128]
Most in hell will be women and they lack common sense
sahih muslim 79a, book 1, hadith 147 - O womenfolk, you should give charity and ask much forgiveness for I saw you in bulk amongst the dwellers of Hell. A wise lady among them said: Why is it, Messenger of Allah, that our folk is in bulk in Hell? Upon this the Prophet observed: You curse too much and are ungrateful to your spouses. I have seen none lacking in common sense and failing in religion but (at the same time) robbing the wisdom of the wise, besides you. Upon this the woman remarked: What is wrong with our common sense and with religion? He (the Holy Prophet) observed: Your lack of common sense (can be well judged from the fact) that the evidence of two women is equal to one man, that is a proof of the lack of common sense, and you spend some nights (and days) in which you do not offer prayer and in the month of Ramadan (during the days) you do not observe fast, that is a failing in religion.
sahih al-bukhari 1052, book 16, hadith 12 - The Prophet (ﷺ) replied, "I saw Paradise and stretched my hands towards a bunch (of its fruits) and had I taken it, you would have eaten from it as long as the world remains. I also saw the Hell-fire and I had never seen such a horrible sight. I saw that most of the inhabitants were women." The people asked, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Why is it so?" The Prophet (ﷺ) replied, "Because of their ungratefulness." It was asked whether they are ungrateful to Allah. The Prophet said, "They are ungrateful to their companions of life (husbands) and ungrateful to good deeds. If you are benevolent to one of them throughout the life and if she sees anything (undesirable) in you, she will say, 'I have never had any good from you.
How men are to treat women / How women are to show gratitude to men
quran 4:34 - Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand. [arabic word used in this verse is Durba - which is used throughout the quran to mean BEAT or STRIKE]
Women, are like dogs and donkeys
Sahih al-bukhari 511, book 8, hadith 158 - The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, "Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people)." I said, "You have made us (i.e. women) dogs. I saw the Prophet (ﷺ) praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away. for I disliked to face him."
Women used like objects
Quran 2:223 - Your wives are a place of sowing of seed for you, so come to your place of cultivation however you wish and put forth [righteousness] for yourselves. And fear Allah and know that you will meet Him. And give good tidings to the believers.
Regarding intercourse and doing with women as you please
Sunan abi dawud 2164, book 12, hadith 119 - When the muhajirun (the immigrants) came to Medina, a man married a woman of the Ansar. He began to do the same kind of action with her, but she disliked it, and said to him: We were approached on one side (i.e. lying on the back); do it so, otherwise keep away from me. This matter of theirs spread widely, and it reached the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ).
So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Qur'anic verse: "Your wives are a tilth to you, so come to your tilth however you will," i.e. from in front, from behind or lying on the back. But this verse meant the place of the delivery of the child, i.e. the vagina.
Female sex slaves of men in addition to their wives
quran 23: 1 to 6 - Certainly will the believers have succeeded: They who are during their prayer humbly submissive And they who turn away from ill speech And they who are observant of zakah And they who guard their private parts Except from their wives or those their right hands possess, for indeed, they will not be blamed -
quran 4:24 - And [also prohibited to you are all] married women except those your right hands possess. [This is] the decree of Allah upon you. And lawful to you are [all others] beyond these, [provided] that you seek them [in marriage] with [gifts from] your property, desiring chastity, not unlawful sexual intercourse. So for whatever you enjoy [of marriage] from them, give them their due compensation as an obligation. And there is no blame upon you for what you mutually agree to beyond the obligation. Indeed, Allah is ever Knowing and Wise.
sahih muslim 1456a, book 17, hadith 41 - (9)Chapter: It is permissible to have intercourse with a female captive after it is established that she is not pregnant, and if she has a husband, then her marriage is annulled when she is captured -
Abu Sa'id al-Khudri (Allah her pleased with him) reported that at the Battle of Hanain Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah's Messenger (may peace te upon him) seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that:
" And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (iv. 24)" (i. e. they were lawful for them when their 'Idda period came to an
RAPE IS CONSIDERED SACRED
@@kakarote100 🤡
Thank you for showing this problem with adults, so that the minor aspect isn't part of the discussion
A firm handshake with good eye contact is my favourite way to make contact with a person. If I'm denied that, or if a person lunges in for a hug with no eye contact instead of a handshake, I might feel disempowered, dishonoured, and uneasy about whether I can trust him. Though I'd give this Muslim man some credit for making good eye contact, which some fundamentalist Muslim men have refused to give me.
LOL the hypocracy to not be able to honor your host country's customs but you are free to take women for slaves for personal use. What he did is an insult. Why is that guy even in Norway? If he can have 4 wives, temporary wives, and slaves, what's it to his wife if he simply shakes a woman's hand for a business encounter?
- He insulted me, your honor. (Judge): "How?"
- By giving me flowers, your honor. (Judge): "But, how is that an insult?"
- Well, It obviously made it clear to everybody just how easily offended I am, which made me look like a giant fool. (Judge): "Ha, ha!"
It actually happened to me once, when I was at university and assigned to work in groups of four, when I introduced myself to a Muslim girl, she apologised (she was polite about it) for not being able to shake hands with a man. I was a bit surprised, (but took it in stride) as I had met a few Muslim women, in the past, who had no issues with shaking a man's hand .
That happened to me with a muslim guy in college. But, he was very rude about it.
@@aisnow5788Not good. I was in an assigned group at University, and we were making our introductions, when a Muslim male, explained he could not shake the hand of a women that he had been introduced to.
While I think part of the problem was that he didn't communicate his issue beforehand and snuck a gift to a woman (he didn't give her the chance to reply with a similar method: they exchange flowers so it is a equal show of respect); giving flowers to a strange woman is pretty sexist and he did not even ask if she wanted flowers, he just assumed. And that assumption was based on what he thought her gender is and what gift preferences based on gender would be. He thought all women like flowers so take them.
I believe I ran into this with my ex-fiancé as she did not want to shake hands with men at work. She would complain to me about it. I did not touch her or it was by mistake or at her request if I did. I do not remember what she did in professional settings. I ran into this myself; on Navajo, tradition married women do not shake hands with other men. I think some married guy got pissed at me for not know Navajo ways but being on their land but I could be misremembering that. I remember it happened during a parade. I shook the hands of non-traditional Navajo women.
I'm becoming less tolerate in my old age about some things and am turning the corner and thinking people might need to abide by the norms of the larger society they are in. That meant asking if a hand shake was appropriate on Navajo and shaking hands in the broader society. And he should have been honest and said it was about religion, not his wife.
The major and only difference between the Navajo and the Muslim tradition, is that one is based on religious punishment in the hereafter, while the other is based solely on culture and tradition.
As a white male atheist Swede with experience of emergency response, i have been hugged by many females and some males without being asked if it was OK. If I did that to anyone, I would risk some time in jail.
I never thought about running away because I don't hug men or find the woman dislikable (I've actually given cats and dogs emergency care by putting my lips on theirs and given heart massage to a parot). I didn't ask my girlfriend at that time, if she thought I was having an affair with a tiny kitten likely to die within a minute so that might be the reason we parted 🙄
Some things you just do without analysing the feelings of others (guess 1344565445677 times how to fastest learn if a person is in a diabetic shock). If he can't shake the hand of a female, I can't imagine that anyone outside his family would benefit from him learning the kindergarten level of emergency care. His belief is obviously a problem to public safety.
@SxVaNm345 That's not true. Religion, their default religion, can be intertwined with being Navajo/Dine.
@boek2777 So I think I hear you were operating within what you thought were your society's parameters on your job and within parameters that were acceptable to you and your girlfriend at the time. That's great.
If someone you date or want to marry or are in a relationship with asks that you do something, you can either listen to them or not. If it is important to them and not to you then you assess how important that relationship is and make a decision. Comparing that with your kitten CPR example comes off as dismissive and mocking, and this might not be your intent. If I deploy mocking or dimissive comments in relationships or with people I'm interacting with, I can expect that relationship to be short and possibly contentious. I haven't responded well when it's deployed against me.
@@bensweiss
I just meant that there is a personal level of closeness that doesn't fit everyone, but everyone have to learn them to not insult others by accident. To mention a kitten was intended as a jest since I can't imagine that anyone could care about that in any sexualized or romantic way. I wouldn't put more importance in a handshake or kiss on the cheek, than some touching of an animal.
"You can have slaves, you can have sex with your slaves, but you can't shake hands with a women".
Lol.
Somebody should make a sketch on this. Fucing slave girls,goes out and denies to shake women's hands😂 and humming music plays in the bg
Because sex slave is his object while a free woman is the object of other or another men. It is always about a woman being possessed by men.
@@sumiben5211 but muhammad touched other slave women all the time slave women of other
The politicians will readily lie to the public. They will enforce lockdowns and ban social gatherings. But if you refuse to shake their hands? How dare you.
@@sumiben5211 thank you man dumb in these comments
I had a Muslim friend, one day, I saw her at a supermarket with her husband, so she introduced me to her husband, as I put my hand out to shake his hand, all of a sudden, she pushed my hand away and rushed me to the back of the supermarket away from her husband then left without telling me anything, I was like WTH??? and how rude! Now, I think she rushed me away to prevent her husband from touching my hand for reason of being impure or sexual. So bizarre.
Thanks for making this video about their refusal to shake hands. It's quite an eye opener on how they view and treat women.
Now he has to "explain" this backward tradition/culture instead of just shaking the hand and moving along with the task at hand.
That Muslim guy is showing respect to her, his book say he can have sex with what his right hand posses, the reason why his wife told him not to shake hands... 😂
I think your just really dumb!!!😂😂😂😂😂
And the dawah music on the background of the Islam Net clip was meant to ensure that the guy is a good, pios example for other muslims.
I don't get how can those 7th century customs go together with 21th century technology (see the studio that sheikh uses to preach or the online channel the clip was posted on).
There was a similar case here in Norway a few weeks ago, there was this muslim student who didn't shake the hand of the schools principle
would you refuse to shake the hand of a female Royalty or Politician?
Why not?
yeah any female that is not my wife of n my family but if she is in danger i will touch er to save her
Watching the video excerpt with that Sheik makes me think how lucky he can be glasses had not yet been invented in the time of his prophet.
Otherwise, who knows, their might be a Surah or a Hadith forbidding to wear glasses and he would need to chose between poor vision for all his life or eternal hellfire in his afterlife.
(That's my way of saying how STUPID I think it is to go with rules set centuries ago. No matter whether such rules may have made sense then, times are always changing and rules need to be reevaluated.)
The funny thing their prophet had sexual intercourse with a 9 year old child Aisha, I'm soo glad I left the cult of Islam
I don’t think I’d mind it if a man didn’t shake hands with me (as long as he’s otherwise respectful). If it’s part of his belief, then I would respect it (though also won’t agree with it).
I mean this is religion, if you believe something then you have to do it because you believe it’s God who wants you to do it, and not because you like it or not like it.
Though she (or you) made a good point that this affects women more than it affects men.
I think the change should come not from individuals, but from the teaching. Imagine if the Imams taught that it’s not a problem and we’re in a different culture and you don’t need to follow that Hadeeth literal. if they taught that, then most followers would be ok with it too.
Why even migrate to a country if you believe its values, norms, culture habits, are completely at odds with your own religion/culture, and then demand that, the society accommodate you .
As If that is not going to create tension. I mean you need to be willing to compromise and be fexible. .
My parents were migrants and that's how they handled it. They were very grateful for being able to settle in the country they did and to be able to escape extreme poverty and hardship. They worked very hard, (and did well) and accepted their adopted country on it's own terms and I'm so glad they did, because the place has been so good to them and I have had a great life largely because I was born there.
Agreed, the workaround was probably worse and hilarious
😂 Yeah
Wasn't he also obligated to lower his gaze? That I did not see him do. The pick and choose of Islamist. He knows, he is on TV so let me make theatrical scene to prove to my fellow Islamist I can stand firm. Europe wake up already!
Worse and hilarious indeed. I do however feel that he deserves points prepared for trying to mitigate what he obviously realised was going to be a faux-pas. There was good intent I think. Also, it shows that at some level, he realised there is a problem with his behaviour. It gives me some hope.
A mean way of respecting a Minister of the State! This Muslim man under values this Norwegian Minister! I would sack him as he is disrespectful!
I remember years ago I had a Saudi guy staying with me. He came back from a holiday and brought us presents. He bought me a pot plant, my wife a hand bag, my four old year son a toy robot and my eight year old daughter - nothing!
When I asked him about this afterwards, he told me that if he had given her a present, it would indicate that in his culture he wished to marry her. An eight year old? PS. Later I went out and bought my little girl a present.
I think it's quite disrespectful but he should totally be allowed to do this. He is simply losing respect points. The best thing he could have done trapped in his ancient mindset is not shaking anyone's hand. Don't know how he greeted the moderator. But the flowers were definitely out of place.
And we should also discuss if shaking hands shouldn't be a thing of the past. It's unhygienic and thinking how many people don't wash their hands after using the toilet...
I agree with you after de Covid fiasco. I prefer the Japanese greeting. A simple vow.
It would be against Norwegian values to not "allow" him to do this. But if you do so, it is rude and it is also very Scandanavian to tell you very frankly that your values and manners are not appreciated.
Would rather shake hands than to give flowers
I notice the cross around the neck of the Minister. This would have made the bearded man's hand start to burn as if it was in hell already. He would have been getting ready to read this verse of his holely koran to her. If he had any balls he would have done it during the interview. Holely koran Chapter 9 Verse 29 " Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day, nor comply with what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden, nor embrace the religion of truth from among those who were given the Scripture,1 until they pay the tax,2 willingly submitting, fully humbled."
The people of Norway would then at least see what type of beings are rejecting shaking their hands and ask them politely to go back to where they came from for they have no business being in Norway.
@momonotever. Well said! They play the chastity card & submit to a deity during their lifetime with a promise of eternal carnal gratification with 72 wives from hell. Yes, HELL as per Sunan Ibn Majah 4337.
@@MustAfaalik The women being taken from hell would be going to a worse hell with slimy muslim jihadis raping the hell out of them for eternity. What a sick cult and it has no business in Norway or anywhere else for that matter.
Not sure about this religion that their internal desire is different from their acts shows to the society.
It seems to me at the core of issues like this is always a combination of a few things: A set of convictions that are seen as outlandish or even harmful in the environment you're in, combined with a completely fundamentalist belief in the superiority of those convictions and a lack of flexibility and tolerance coming from it. And of course, the lack of flexibility and tolerance most often (not always!) stem from the conviction being /religious/, i.e. "universally and eternally correct" convictions. Just the other day somewhere on social media I saw a man declaring that "islam is not a religion, it's life itself", go figure.
To get rid of the friction, there's two options: Start understanding and accepting the outlandishness of your convictions, or show flexibility and tolerance i.e. adapt your behaviour even while still believing in your convictions.
Contemporary islam seems to be weak on both points. It varies per region, and at an individual level, but that really is the observation. It means they willingly choose friction, no matter the flowers, smiles, and nice hand gestures.
I'm guessing christianity in the past was much like this, but was mellowed by the appearance and acceptance humanism and enlightenment. These movements grew in a society that was christian, giving christians ample time to understand, accept, and adjust. It took quite a while though, including fierce struggle. I still hope that islam will see through a comparable process, but hopefully much accelerated by our extremely connected world. Because living with silly frictions like this in our societies just creates misery.
The man won't shake the hand of a woman but he would have no problem with raping her if she was a prisoner of war after being taken in battle as war booty. He would read this verse from his book as he was plundering her. Holely koran Chapter 4 Verse 24.
If someone refused to shake my hand, even though I don't agree with it, I would just let it go. Especially as he tried to show his appreciation in another way. Some people just don't want to shake hands for various reasons, especially post pandemic. As long as they are not trying to be rude. The minister's response I felt was more awkward and rude.
FYI women can drive in Saudi Arabia. The laws changed some years ago. I wish they wouldn't immigrate if they have such ideas. I mean we don't have a shortage of people who want to immigrate. Stay where you can live according to your old ways.
I like to imagine this guy owns a floral shop, and everywhere he goes he carries a duffle bag filled with bouquets, so that when the need arises to shake hands with a lady he just reaches into the bag and pulls out some flowers. And when he runs out of flowers he runs back to the shop in a panic to re-stock his supply. What a hard and hilarious life!
If a woman puts her hand out you shake it !
Possibly Because he has a grandiose since of self and is deluded by religion and about his position in another county’s society and doesn’t mind being rude to women.
I mean he can greet in the way he wants to, but the rest of the world has the same right to think he is a rude, controlling sexist
No, if he cannot be courteous to everyone in the host country, he shouldn’t go there. Period.
They had a full discussion on that greeting. Wow.
There is really NO need or execuse for this kind of behaviour, let alone tolerating it in Western Country like Norway who opened their hearts and doors for these muslims immigrants, but still do not want to integrate into the society but rather cling to their old 7 cetury cave man practices. Even the Minister felt very uncomfortable what this muslim did. This is really awful way to great a minister. Send this man back home to his country where he is free to practice his religion as he wishes, but not here in the West.
how can he touch a creature described in his book as dumb? who at the first opportunity must rape or kill since she is not a Muslim,? Teaching this in the country with no shame ,shaking hands is the lesser evil, Islam have goals which they achieve as long as the majority of public has no opinion....
How do i pay the female cashier if i gotta keep this distance? Thats not a scenario in his mind coz in his world women dont step outta home forget working behind a till.
My husband and I used to rent out a room in our house and shared the kitchen and bathroom with the housemate.
When we were interviewing people for the vacated room, one young man rang our doorbell and I opened the door to a short, young, brown-skinned young man who looked at me like he was a deer caught in the headlights of a semi-truck.
My first intuition was that he was a Muslim, shocked to see a woman in the house.
I motioned him in and extended my hand. He declined, and seemed nervous and uncomfortable.
I wasn't offended. I felt sorry for him and his discomfort. He was the one who was facing a clash of cultures with fearful religious consequences. But I knew right off that this guy wasn't going to take the room.
But I called my husband in from the garage.
We had our interview. Very cordial. Then, as the fellow was about to leave, my husband extended his hand and the guy shook it.
I couldn't resist a test. I extended my hand, and he hesitantly took it this time. Then he made a beeline for the bathroom and washed it.
At that point I did feel offended, a little. But, still, I felt bad for him that he was so caught in that matrix of beliefs that he felt compelled to do such a thing.
It would have been better if he'd just said "I'm sorry, but my religion forbids me to touch a woman not related to me." But he was clearly out of his depth, not sure how to handle the situation. My guess is that he hadn't been in Australia very long.
I hope he didn't think he was damned after that. What a cruel religion.
Im trying to have a problem with it, but i just can't. I have my own weird quirks and refuse to compromise
People shouldn't force physical contact. Joe biden is a prime example of where this can lead 🤣
Ex-muslim here and I absolutely agree. I don’t like shaking hands with strangers (man or woman) and I absolutely hate the fact that physical contact is forced on me. Funny thing: I’ve heard many people say they feel the same post corona era.
@@Ashina12345but you agreed Muhammad had sex with his wife's SLAVE MAID SERVANT Marym The Copt on Hafsa's matrimonial bed? Islam is a CULT.. ex muslim here
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The politicians will readily lie and manipulate the public and turn people against people. They will backstap the entire population, enforce lockdowns and ban social gatherings. That´s fine. But if you refuse to shake their hands? "How dare you!".
It's a clash of cultures - in the past, the clash occurred first on the battlefield or in an abstract sense, at the border - the outcome determined the flow of culture and cultural supremacy (whatever the content of that culture may be). Today, in the West, the failure of the economic system has drawn incompatible cultures deep within a border but the cultural clash will still occur without an actual resolution of cultural power that used to occur at a border.
Letting go off the cultural framework is not an actual solution because in some cultures, the basis of the operating structure is thought to be imperiled. Cultural frameworks that are simply too fragile to accommodate external changes are just brittle and will fail.
@mysotiras0187 But what if you can take over their culture and make the hosts adapt to yours? That would also solve the problem, no?
the sheikh is funny, I lost it when he said you happened to "encounter" a women like a women is a rare pokemon. But not shaking hands is not the issue but the reason given for that is ridiculous, it is for hygiene purpose then its fine like what happens in covid.
Hey @FriendlyExmuslim I have a curious question, Do men shake hands with men in Muslim countries? I know in places like India and Japan they do a namaste type greeting with palms closed and a bow.
Yes they do. There are other greetings, such as the hand on chest or in the UAE and northern Oman the nose touch or cheek kiss.
@@garethmiguel Thank you for the answer. I've heard about the nose greeting before, I think that is a Bedouin custom. I thought the cheek kiss was considered haram though?
@@SxVaNm345 usually they kiss the 'air' just before the nose or cheek
Yup but that’s when they are in India, Japan etc. This guys was brought up in Norway. So it’s his country’s custom!