Ben Shapiro Obliterates Every Pro-Abortion Argument (Send This To Your Pro-Choice Friends)
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- čas přidán 22. 11. 2019
- Ben Shapiro’s best exchanges with college leftists, feminists, and doctors on the issue of abortion.
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love you ben
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You advocated for the United states government to bomb Iran knowing innocent civilians would get killed so you can't really preach about having a moral code and what's evil or not evil.
Yes, you are indeed quite passionate about taking away women's bodily autonomy.
Did great,Ben!
Doctor: "you're pregnant."
16-year-old girl: "Oh my gosh. My mom's gonna kill me."
Baby in the womb: "Oh my gosh. My Mom's gonna kill me."
Edit- 2 years later, A top comment with 8K likes, in the post-Covid time period and I'm still Pro-Life. Hope you guys are too!
The Supreme Court is taking a case called Dobbs v Jackson's women health organization that could overturn Roe V Wade. Praying that it does so that we end the moral blot on our country that is abortion!
Edit- June 24th- ROE V WADE IS OFFICIALLY OVERTURNED AND MULTIPE STATES ARE BANNING ABORTION!!!!
Good one
Lmfao
I have actually never heard this one before; but it’s a clever joke regardless.
Wow, that's awesome. I took a screen capture to make sure I remember it.
👍👍👍
Riley sure is, glad there is a fellow memer among us
*"Funny how bacteria is life on Mars but a heartbeat isn't a life on earth"*
Exactly bro, I agree 100%
Good song
The fertility industry destroys more fertilized eggs every year than abortion. You'll never hear a conservative complain about it. Because it's not about destroying fertilized eggs, it's about convincing a bunch of religious nuts that female reproductive autonomy is murder so that you can weaponize them for your political party.
There's also the multifetal pregnancy reduction, which actually removes implanted embryos/fetuses if too many are successful during IVF. It is the same as abortion with a less offensive name. You hardly ever hear about it because it is primarily well-off white married couples having it done.
it's far easier for conservatives to demonize some poor young girl who obviously had sex outside of marriage, than a middle aged (mostly white) infertile couple who just wants children, even though the latter will end up "killing" dozens more "babies".
@Jesse Singleton refute the argument here bruh
Who agreed that the bacteria on mars was sentient?
My daughter-in-law was told her son was downs and he had kidney damage. Two Drs. wanted her to abort, she said NO. She received two letter telling her or shall I say shaming her for not doing it. He was born in 2010. He was perfect and still is. His name is Ethan, I thank God everyday for him.
And if that precious baby did have kidney problems or downs syndrome, he would still be a precious baby.
My Wife and i went through a very similar situation and Our child was born with issues and we have had her for 30 years so far and we have to care for her her name is Sarah and she is our blessing just because she can't speak, cant feed herself , change her cloths and may or may not understand us doesn't mean she should not exist! She and the witness of our care for her has helped others see that people are precious they are we are made by God. We do not know hat life will through at us but killing is not the answer!
Wow, Thanks to God❤
God Bless your family ❤
@@BrianJonesOneClearChoiceGod Bless your beautiful family! ❤ My oldest daughter has developmental disabilities and even with all the extra work involved, she is so absolutely worth it all! She is just as God intended her to be 🙏🏻
8:27
"Hold on....I just need to calm down..."
Her brain was a bundle of cells.
Ben Shapiro is me in the shower after an argument
This comment was fuckin hilarious to me, and extremely true lol.
Lmaooo
Lol most relatable thing I've ever heard
LMAOOO
Haahahahahahah trueeeeeeee
“Sayyy ...9 months” total savage 😂
there's a flaw in his argument though, the person in the coma has lived and will continue to live after. a fetus hasn't lived. the point is that he shouldn't be able to make a law for everyone bc it's not his business at all. it's no body's buisness except the parents, the pro choice stance isn't saying that everyone needs an abortion, it's saying there should be a choice. some people are directly against gay people bc of their religion, but it's the gay persons choice to date a dude. obviously that's a slightly off analogy as gay isn't a choice while abortion should be but you can see my point.
yellow is pretty nice the dude in the coma will live after and so will the baby unless you kill it
@@jamesbw2 Why does it matter if something has lived before? That literally has no place in any pro choice argument. The comparison between a baby forming and someone in a coma is a valid comparison. Both are non sentient, kept alive via some external thing, and have to be taken care of for a significant amount of time after becoming sentient. Hospitals do not get to kill coma patients because its convenient. People dont get to kill babies because its convenient. Which is really what this boils down to. No pro life person is arguing for no abortion if the mothers life is at risk. So what do pro choicers really want? The ability to kill babies for their convenience and to avoid personal responsibility. That is evil pure and simple.
@@jamesbw2 Welcome to today's logical fallacy class, today we will learn about the circular argument. You are saying that a person is living because they have lived. The circular argument fallacy relies on its conclusion as the premise--just as you have just done. You have said that a person is living because they have lived. Thank you for attending today's class.
@Hexl702 A logical fallacy mean you are wrong--so when someone uses one you should call it out. Next, I believe that a "fetus" is living, so yes, it is important to debate because thousands of babies are being killed daily. Your argument actually makes zero sense, I'm not even sure what point you're trying to get across. I don't think you fully understand what a debate is...
I agree with Ben in a sense, and here is why. I had a friend who had 8 FREE abortions by the time she was 32 years old. She slept with random men all the time and instead of using birth control, she’d just get a free abortion every time she got pregnant. Her reasoning, ‘she didn’t ever want kids’. She got pregnant a 9th time by a guy with lots of money and had the baby, but doesn’t take very good care of it, uses it as a pawn to collect money, and has since had 5 more abortions after sleeping with more random guys. That’s 13 Abortions by her 35 bday.
I believe victims of rape, or young teens should be allowed to get a doctors clearance for an abortion, but I think adult women need to be held accountable and not allowed to just keep aborting babies.
I had a gf who used abortion as birth control. She thought the abortion ‘brought them closer together as a couple’. 🤮. I agree with your statements.
Yep unfortunately your friend was using abortion As birth control, when in fact she should've just been on birth control or make the man use condoms, or abstain from sex altogether, it's outrageous she was allowed 8 abortions and didn't learn from the first one or second.
I knew someone like this too. Worst part was one of the times she was 19 weeks and her daughter would sing to her stomach. She STILL had an abortion
@@pamelalieghyeah that’s because your girlfriend is an idiot
First of all, that’s not every woman. Your description, with every added detail, thins out the pool of actual women who fulfill these conditions.
Second of all, the conditions you proposed under which abortion should be legal are chosen very arbitrarily. What about cases where contraception was used without success? There was an intent of not having a baby be the consequence. And that should be taken into consideration. A baby should be wanted and grow up in a stable environment if you truly want to unlock the so called potential you Pro-Lifers keep droning on about.
Step out of your religious shoes for a moment and view the world through various different ethical, moral, philosophical lenses.
Ben Shapiro, You have my respect and admiration. God is working through you and with you.
He really is ❤
I don’t understand why Ben isn’t saved . He has a Bible. He can read how Jesus is all over the Old Testament.
I’m an atheist and I find it utterly bizarre how theists promote a pseudo-godly objection to abortion when god himself sanctioned the induction of miscarriages of unfaithful wives under 5:27, merely on the grounds of suspicion? 1 Kings 8:39 says he knows the heart of every human, meaning he could have known in an instant who has and who hasn’t been unfaithful, which would avoided the obvious destruction or collateral damage to the foetus that theists claim is sacrosanct. What a decrepid and vacuous epistemology. Not using this for pro-life argumentation, but it’s clear that Christ didn’t give a monkeys about the unborn when he supposedly pre-existed to his own birth in th OT. Any wonder the bible is possibly one the most debunked books of all.
Typo error numbers 5:27!
@@Mac-vy1rv Believe what you want.
Ben Shapiro's notes on his clipboard simply say "DESTROY".
This deserves more likes
This made my day
With logic and facts!
Hexl702 Obviously, Ben isn’t a god.
More like, ANNIHILATE but Destroy too.
I love how one minute they're like "Gender doesn't exist; everyone is equal" than they're like "you're a man you have no say"
Hypocrisy, whether intentional and educated, or not, is the main sign and requirement of a liberal. There is no other way to support their agendas without being so.
And when they find out that I’m a woman that’s pro life they suddenly stop saying I’m against women.....
@@The_Life_of_Maddy Really? Don't they turn around and accuse you of wrong-think before unpersonning you across all medias?
That's because they're a set of individuals with different ideas. They're not a single organism. Think.
S Miller right?!
Amen to ALL of it. Thank you Ben Shapiro for putting everything out there for us.
i don't belive in god, not the religious definition of god, but i always thought that you don't need to belive in God or be a conservative, to have a moral compass and common sense to protect and love life.
This people make me sick, how can they be this ignorant and heartless?
Thank you Ben for everything.
I appreciate your stance
Samezies man
There's a reason parents are called guardians and not owners.
Excellent point.
Good point but are you really serious about your profile name 😯
It's actually parents or guardians get it right you mong
@@Mowlezer “Father is the natural guardian of his minor legitimate children, sons and daughters." Section 19 of the Guardians and Wards Act, 1890, lays down that a father cannot be deprived of the natural guardianship of his minor children unless he has been found unfit." you pretentious moron.
I think Molly Cxc is joking y’all lmfao
“The baby is a bundle of cells” Ben: No U
*uno reverse*
That bitch is dumb as fuck lol
That was so stupid lmao. Everyone is a “bundle of cells” because we are living organisms
Evanasper Ben was mentioning his own 32 week baby. So yeah he got pissed when some college kid called his child a bundle of cells.
You were once nothing more than a bunch of cells. Cells that grew into a sentient human beings. All life starts somewhere. I'm guessing you're relieved that your mother didn't think she should just throw you away.
Why is a baby considered a baby when a woman who is pro abortion considered a baby when she wants the child, but considered a piece of meat or a bundle of cells when she does it with the child. It is a sickening way of thinking.
Awesome! Mitzvah! Thank you for Paying it Forward !!!
“I’ve noticed everyone who is for abortion has already been born” -Ronald Reagan
That's the most stupid thing ever said about abortion.
@@disco.lemonade 😢😢
@@jacks.7579 It's logic. Most people who are for abortion, are men which is absurd. If I were a woman, I'd be offended that men and/or Church had a saying over my body. If we, MEN, had to give birth, oh boy... Abortion would've been legal since decades ago.
@@disco.lemonade Clown
@@disco.lemonade double standards, definitely valid
17:30 “I don’t think you want to go down the road where you’re justifying slavery” *black guy holds mic*
I LOLED
Bro, he pulled down the mic and chuckled 🤣
Lol.
I didn't notice until Ben actually reminded me that this tool was justifying slavery😂😂😂
I was just thinking that
God Bless you 🙏 ❤ for teaching that abortions are nothing but murder.
You have a gift. Thank god you are using your gift of expression to educate these lost souls. I can’t help but notice most of the people who are arguing that a baby isn’t alive have never had felt the miracle, the gift, of a life inside their body. Thank you for standing up to these people and speaking out for those who can’t.
"It's my body, why don't you stay out of it?"
Tell that to the man who knocked you up
Tell that to the contraceptive that didn't work
@@Llllllllllshs1616 No contraceptive is perfect. If you make the conscious decision to have sex, whether with a contraceptive or not, you are running the risk of getting pregnant. Just because you got unlucky doesn't mean you're allowed to kill the kid solely because it inconveniences you. You're an adult, take responsibility for your actions and act like it.
@@Nathan-xm7rw "Responsiblity for your actions," is something you would hear in middle school when you did something bad. A CHILD to take care of is a ginormous responsibility and one that many people are not ready for, but they have a human right to have sex, and to take contraceptives, they also have a right to take that responsibility out of their body if they are not ready for it because it is THEIR body.
@@Llllllllllshs1616 So if I kill someone I don't have to go to prison because it is MY body? How dare they try telling me to go somewhere I don't want to go! I shouldn't have to pay taxes if it's MY money! I shouldn't have any consequences for my actions because I don't want them!
You should be able to get an abortion for a few reasons. But not because you made the CHOICE to have sex and you just don't want the responsibility. You knew the risk, you took the chance. Instead of killing, take responsibility. I'm not saying all will be rainbows and sunshine but it's better than crushing the head of an unborn child.
@@jacobr2022 I'm not saying abortion is birth control by any means, but if I want to have sex and I take the proper contraceptives and they fail me, I should be able to make the decision over my body, not the government.
The 9 months comment went straight over the second guy’s head
So did everything else.
I couldn't help but laugh at the 9 months
Yeah.
It was great.
EXACTLY 😂😂😂
It went straight through*
Thank you Ben,for sticking up for the silent one,murder is murder.wake up people choose life.
So sad....I spent most of my career as a NICU RN and we saved these babies. Our parents were desperate to have these babies survive At the end of my career I worked in a Level 2 Nursery and I attended a delivery of a 23 week old baby who actually had no chance to survive. The parents were heart broken. Sadly, many NICU RNs in the '90s were totally okay with abortion. That was shocking to me and we did not talk about it. I saw so many amazing miracles of babies that actually survived some crazy situations where babies with bad illnesses survive and have creation miracles like those babies that had intestines born outside the body. We also had a mom with cancer who would not abort her baby and she waited until after her baby to receive treatment for the cancer, but died shortly after her baby was born. She knew that pregnancy advances cancer at an alarming rate, but chose her babies life over hers. I honestly think that I would have done the same. My first child was born when I was almost 35 and went into septic shock,, but lived and I had mini strokes after her birth due to post partum eclampsia and sadly destroyed my marriage. I was asked by a co-worker if her birth was worth that c-section and I said that if I died tomorrow my life would have had worth. I still believe that today as she is an amazing woman and mother of 2 boys and had major difficulty with the births and her younger sister is a delight as well. Our youngest Rachel is Director at a Vet College in charge of Student Services so a caretaker as well. So 3 of our grandkids were difficult births and so welcome into their families and the last was born 8 weeks early and I wonder if it was due to mom having COVID? They are absolutely the reason that life is worth living. I now have a horrid auto immune disease, but doing amazing I think because of these kids. I believe those babes that were miscarriages that is ever so common and those aborted babies do make it to heaven for sure. We will get to hug and love on them for sure. The earth is a difficult place and an alien land.
Psalm 119 gimel 19 "I am a stranger on earth; do not hide your commands from me."
You are one of God's angels. Thank you for your children
17:29 :
“I don’t think you want to go down the road where you are justifying slavery.”
The black man holding the microphone for this guy:
👁 👁
👄
fatezzツ nah he actually laughed.
😭👏🏻
Did you see the look on that black mans face? Priceless!
🤣
Yrp
"I dont think killing babies is the solution to you making bad sexual decisions." 'Nuff said.
Christopher Downing
People who are pro life also tend to be anti contraceptives, anti pre marital sex, and anti sex Ed in schools for religious reasons. Don’t you think that’s a problem in the pro life movement and why so many leftist see there movement as disingenuous. I just don’t see the freedom in people telling other people they aren’t allowed or shouldn’t have sex before marriage.
Turquoise Cheetah
I never said abortion was right I personally think it’s wrong. But I also think that individuals should make moral choices not the government. When government forces moral choices it almost never ends well. Also I disagree that I am straw-manning because the religious conservative movement is quite strong now a days and apart of the strong conservative movement is its values which include no pre marital sex, no contraceptives, and and no abortions. I think someone’s right to not do any of those things and to be against those things is expedient but doesn’t mean it should be illegal it should be a moral choice.
@@kbxredxk I have to say, you bring up very good points. Also, I noticed the US (after living in AU, NZ, RSA and here), US doesn't have near the social services, outreach & benefits that other countries have for single parenting * could be different in decision if someone had that.
@@smileleialoha the Catholic Church looks down on contraception, the 2nd largest faith population at 25% of the US, and primarily the largest religion of Latin America
Mysterion South Park dude I’m telling you right now, there’s hardly anybody against contraceptives... even from a religious stand point, however they are against sex before marriage which is reasonable. But I don’t know anybody that’s against contraceptives, so your going to actually have to go out of your way to find someone who’s against that and have a conversation with them. Cause your not going to find it very easily.
Thank you for standing up for these precious lives. It's so good to hear a man speaking so passionately pro life. We need more men like you.
Go Ben for defending our voiceless brothers and sisters ❤
“You’re technically a bundle of cells!”
Thetic Caribou71 when do you actually become a human being? We are all made up of live cells watch a first, second and third trimester abortion, babies born early are not just a bundle of cells 22days into a pregnancy the BABY HAS A HEARTBEAT THEY ARE NOT A BUNDLE OF CELLS!!!
Eddie Wood Preach!!!!
Eddie Wood My little brother was born at 29 weeks and 6 days. At no point did we think that he wasn’t alive. If you look at even bacterial cells, we consider them alive. To treat bacteria better than human embryos, fetuses, and humans in general is just wrong
Nozzledog55 and bacteria are unicellular prokaryotes don’t even grow into multicellular animals
Lachlan Loves acting that is exactly my point and it infuriates me
“How do you defend your opinion as a white, well off, religious man..."
You already lost your argument.
@Hexl702 I am personally pro choice myself. What I was trying to say was that the way she entered the argument made her already look unintelligent and gave Shapiro a perfect opportunity to swoop in and call her out.
Exactly how I felt.
@Hexl702 when i dont think thats a good pro lifer, I'm a a pro lifer but i wouldn't attack them
Hexl702 No, ‘pro choicers’ did lose the argument, always have and always will. To think differently is to disregard basic morals and you seem to be making fun with the ‘pro loafers’ thing, honestly mate you come across as quite a disgusting person trying to ridicule people who are against the brutal murder of someone’s developing child. Get lost.
@Hexl702 There are white well off religious people who have gotten abortions...
Just found and as usual I thoroughly enjoyed listening to you. I wish I was better at retaining facts and information like you.
You can tell the second guy thought his position out thoroughly. He even pushed this position on other people and he was applauded for it. He changed peoples minds. He never met someone who was pro-life and wasn’t just pro-life because it was nice but pro-life because they knew it was right.
“Let’s say that you’re comatose for a specifically and predictably short period of time, say 9 months”
*SNEAK 100*
lmao That was an awesome point.
The fertility industry destroys more fertilized eggs every year than abortion. You'll never hear a conservative complain about it. Because it's not about destroying fertilized eggs, it's about convincing a bunch of religious nuts that female reproductive autonomy is murder so that you can weaponize them for your political party.
There's also the multifetal pregnancy reduction, which actually removes implanted embryos/fetuses if too many are successful during IVF. It is the same as abortion with a less offensive name. You hardly ever hear about it because it is primarily well-off white married couples having it done.
it's far easier for conservatives to demonize some poor young girl who obviously had sex outside of marriage, than a middle aged (mostly white) infertile couple who just wants children, even though the latter will end up "killing" dozens more "babies".
@@Pranav-rp8wi
I'd love to see your resources, I want to know more about this
@@dalilavenen5508 google would be a good starting point for you then.
IVF is pretty simple process. they take a bunch of eggs depending on woman's age. then try to fertilise all of them. only 40-50% get fertilised(i.e. the conception stage for chritisans), of that only 25% survive to be planted in the womb.
and if more then 4 or 5 such fertilised eggs get attached and start developing then doctors take out the extra ones..i.e. an abortion.
@@Pranav-rp8wi
Can you give me specifics, just searching up something isn't going to give me answers, do you have any credible resources?
Pro-choice:*Approaches Shapiro*
Shapiro: So you have chosen death?
Well actually they have, by being pro-choice
Sam Fielder It’s actually just not forcing other people to go through something they don’t want and minding your own business, but go off.
xxLaci Luxx did you not watch the video?
@@xxlaciluxx9893 Like the baby, that doesn't want to be killed. But we don't care about babies, only the mother who got herself banged up and it turns out there are real world consequences to bad actions.
@@samfielder8789 lmao
I for pro life. You are absolutely right. Abortion is a sin no matter what. Thank you very Mr. Ben for your wise opinions
That baby’s body is not your body. Killing another’s body is murder.
Apart form it’s not a baby
Baby body is inside my body. It makes use of my organs, it makes use of my life to exist and permanently alters my body. I am not baby machine, with my organs in service of others.
@@kau0303Any line you draw to kill the baby also extends to you as well. So because you are made from your mother and not a person can I kill you?
@@kau0303 this does not justify termination of life i.e. murder. Also, your womb’s function is to support a child, so yes, you are incredibly lucky to be a carrier for your own child. If you do not see new life as beautiful I have no idea what to tell you other than to consider how important life is.
@@kau0303then tell me this, why are the organs there in the first place
"I don't care about your appendix"
-Ben Shapiro
Lol
“I don’t care that you broke your elbow,” type beat
hypothetically
"Okay so say you are comatose for a short period of time, say 9 months..." omg right on point
lol
And he is right as well. Look at how humans get sick and die from cancers. All has to do with our cells.
A baby that hasn’t been born doesn’t have any effect on the world save for the mother who is having to make the choice . If she didn’t tell anyone she was having an abortion nobody would know.
@@verityh4918 If you killed someone who lived alone in the middle of alaska nobody would know. Whats your point?
@@verityh4918By your logic, I could walk up to any unsuspecting stranger in the middle of the night, kill them, and dispose of their body in a river. Since I never told anyone that I killed them and disposed of their body, I have every right to do what I did. Morality by your standard is based not on universal acceptance but on if cousin Timmy knows that you killed his gerbil.
It makes me very angry and sad. How could anyone murder a baby? It makes me sick!
It's astounding that these people are actually trying to convince us that it's okay to murder a baby. I'm stunned and speechless
Woah I can't understand you people. This is like basic fucking sense, a foetus in the early stages of development lacks the developed nervous system and brain to feel pain or even be aware of their surroundings. The nervous system develops at 26 weeks and the limit for abortions are till 24 weeks, anything beyond is illegal anyway. So, it's not murdering fucking anything. A foetus doesn't have a life. Stop bringing your religion into this. But you would rather ruin a woman's life by making her carry a child for 9 fucking months while being in severe pain.
It's not a baby, it's a cell with no thoughts, feelings or emotions
Yet they don't care about climate change or all the innocent seals who get clubbef 😢
@@Qwertyyuikvxit’s a developing baby that has the potential to possess these traits across time. Life begins at conception- which is the consensus- termination of life is wrong, no matter what state you’re in. These traits you’ve listed can also be assumed by an adult across their lifetime, it does not give us the right to terminate their life. We also all came from that same place.
Mother Teresa best summed up these people: “It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish.”
They don't die ffs. They just never become conscious. Fetutses aren't morally valuable.
@@user-sd6lg8lf5c I feel like u didn't watch the video
Random Guy so in order to be a living human you must be conscious ?
@Great Destroyer No because they have a personal identity. If we don't need personal identity to be human, then the world would fall into anarchy as killing people in their sleep would be legal.
@@TrinityCompilations Yes, that's one of requirements.
"You're technically a bundle of cells!"
"NO YOU ARE"
I'm taking that line
Honestly, that was the only time that that kind of response of "No U" wouldn't be considered childish, because what he said was hilariously true.
Your passion on this topic is so needed.
It’s amazing to see how evil a mother can be she should have the most pure and compassionate love for her own child
"Say nine months"
ABSOLUTE MAD LAD
Kabyr Denis killing a baby bc it’s “ a clump of cells “ is also a dumb arguement bc we are all a clump of cells
Kabyr Denis It's not meant to be literal. It's framing the argument of the person proposing his view in another way that helps enlighten why the argument itself is absurd and why his definition of what life is cannot stand on its own.
Yep, that dude was checked out. That was hilarious
@@ylsfad3720 Just curious? Are you vegan then? Do you make sure to avoid crushing insects or plants?
I'm assuming you will say no. and why? You can't say because they are a clump of cells or the equivalent.
The thing is that you have to also consider the quality of life the person will have.
Will the coma person have medical sequelae ? Maybe, depends on the situation. If so, maybe it's better to kill him.
Will the baby have a good quality of life? Mostly not, (depends on the situation also). the majority of abortions are wanted because of immaturity or poverty. The majority of these parents would cause the baby to have a miserable life... and foster care is not better.
“You’re technically a bundle of cells” damn clapback
Your cells are made out of atoms
@@mayro4803 and your atoms are made of electrons and protons
Yuh Mama in fact, science shows that ur not a bundle of cells to start off
loser face and those protons and electrons are made of quarks
Justin R and those quarks are made up of raw matter
I had an abortion at 19yrs old. I was with an abusive partner who SA me because he got drunk one night an didnt take no for an answer. I bled and kept quiet about it because i feared him, one day i didnt have my period i went into planned parenthood and they said i was pregnant i beleive it was around 6weeks. I went back home and was confronted with another beating but this time my stomach was kicked severely and i knew it was over. It took me 3 days to recover and head back to planned parenthood where i had asked to be seen and they confirmed that my baby was dead. They offered an abortion so that i wouldnt get sick or anything from the dead fetus, i agreed. Day later i went in got the procedure done didnt realize it hurt so bad didnt get comfort from the nurse that was there all she said was "you better not yell or scream" they left and the hate on the ladies face was just horrible. The other ladies where comforting though because i had told them what was going on and they gave me help they provided safety and shelter and soon my ex was arrested and charged. That was over 9 years ago. I am married now with a 2yr old son, and to a man that worships the floor i walk on. i cry wondering how my first baby would have been if they werent killed from that beating. I wonder how they would have looked and talked like.
I'm so sorry that happened to you, but it's not the same thing. You didn't have an abortion, technically. Your baby was already dead, as awful as it sounds to put it so bluntly. You didn't kill them, your abuser did. I can't imagine the pain and guilt you carry and I hope time eases that for you, but you did not abort a viable fetus. You shouldn't be carrying that burden on your heart. Easier said than done, I'm sure, but you were innocent in that scenario and I wish you continued happiness in your new life.
That was not an abortion. It was murder by the man who beat you. The procedure removed your deceased child. I'm so sorry all of that was done to you, and I'm so sorry for your loss.
I wanna cry
@@anasaziroseStop downplaying her situation. Abortion is basically the doctor asking you: "Do you want to keep your baby? If not we can kill it for you." That is the definition of evil. Shame. On. You.
I am sorry what you had gone through, and happy you get to have your happy ending
Haven't heard any pregnant women ever say they are having a clump of cells.....they always say they are having a baby.
Why do people even challenge him, they are literally asking for death
Not literally, of course.
@@navigodelaney119 They are literally asking for death.
It's funny you say that cause if I had been there I would have stumped him with my pro choice argument, which is that a fetus has no right to life. This is because a fetus is not sentient until at least 18 weeks, so why should it have a right to life before then? Given it isn't sentient and doesn't have any relationships the only thing you can say is it's potential to become a sentient human. However you must remember that the fetus only became a fetus with that potential because of mothers choice and willingness to commit to 9 months of pregnancy, it would never have existed and got the potential to become a sentient human if she didn't choose for it to exist with her willingness to commit to 9 months of pregnancy, and the ONLY consequence of aborting a non sentient fetus it is that it won't go on to become a sentient human. So when a mother loses willingness to go through pregnancy and stops the pregnancy, the fetus loses it's potential to become a sentient human, which it only got from the mothers willingness to be pregnant, and since the fetus losing it's potential to become a sentient human is the ONLY consequence, she should have the right to stop the pregnancy. Just as when someone agrees to do something, and the only consequence of them stopping the agreement is that they won't do the agreed thing, they should have the right to stop their agreement. There can be cases where stopping agreements can have consequences other than the agreed thing not happening, for example agreeing to pay builders to build a house then stopping your agreement halfway through them building the house, the consequence of this is not just you not paying them, but they have put in ours of unpaid labour, in these cases people may lose their right to just stop an agreement. But this is not the case with abortion, as while the fetus is not sentient, the only consequence of aborting it is it will lose it's potential to become a sentient human, but it only got this potential because the mothers agreement to create this fetus with this potential, so stopping the agreement is this case just means the agreed thing not happening. You might ask but what about someone it a coma who has lost sentience? If someone is in a coma and is being kept alive by a hospital, but you kill them, you have intervened with their life by killing them, they would have continued living had you not intervened. This is not the case with abortion as the fetus must stay attached to the mothers body, it won't survive if detached and left alone by the mother. You might also ask should the hospital even keep someone alive if they are in a coma and not sentient? If this person in a coma wants to live, then a hospital keeping them alive until they wake up is beneficial to their well-being, and in that sense better than letting them die. If a fetus was kept alive by the mother or could be detached and kept alive by a hospital it would be beneficial to the future human's well-being as they probably like being alive. Does this mean a mother should be forced to keep unwanted pregnancies? No, as the fetus has no right to life for reasons just explained.
@@bharlie10 That would probably fall under the argument that if a person is in a coma with no brain activity and is not self depended at all relying on someone else to live (you don't call that live but that's not important right now) it is okay to pull the plug and kill that person. I recommend you to watch the entire conversation at 2:00. The thing about this kind of argument is that you can't argue against it per se because either you value the potential of a living human being or you don't and there isn't anything that says you have to agree with one of them because morality is subjective. The thing is if you think in this way (and a lot of other pro-choice philosophies) a lot of strange, bizarre and even perhaps then immoral consequences occur. I haven't heard any good arguments about why your moral stance shouldn't be consistent with different occurrences it applies. I think that people generally wouldn't think it's okay to pull the plug in the scenario earlier especially if they know that the person will wake up and be perfectly fine even if that person has say memory problems. But let's say you're fine with killing that person that means you don't care about what will be true and certain in the future and you can see at the end of the conversation I talked about earlier you're fine to have that opinion and there isn't anything that would convince you otherwise just I, and probably you, wouldn't want to be in a comma with people thinking like this is around. And this could also apply when you inevitably find yourself in the womb of your mother. Poor human being. Anyway, what do you think about all this? If you have anything to say, say it! Could be about my comment, could be about the conversation in the video - anything!
@@8is Keeping someone alive while they are in a coma is good for their well-being, therefore keeping them alive is better than letting them die in that it's good for them. But no one should be forced to keep them alive. And that's it, you can make up your subjective moral stances however you wish after that. But in the case of abortion, a mother should not have to bring her fetus to term, as it needs to stay attached to her body, and with the fact it is only there in the first place because the mother was willing for it to stay attached to her body, if doesn't want to keep it, she shouldn't have to.
17:37
The black dude's face when Ben said "I dont think you wanna go down the road where you're justifying slavery"
I know😂
Oh yeah, it’s all coming together
@@Anthony-op7xz yooo it's my master oogway!!!!
My friend had to have an emergency c-section at 28 weeks. She had some preexisting issues after being hit by a car, and after stalling things starting at 24 weeks, it had to be done. Her baby was barely over a pound at birth. I have small hands and that baby (she) fit in the palm of my hand (reaching from wrist to fingertip). She drank breast milk from a q-tip, which was basically the size of an apple to an adult. The pictures still make me cry because it was so amazing. She was SO tiny, and she needed a lot of help to stay alive. She was 1.2 pounds at birth, dropped down to .8 pounds, and then rebounded passing 1.5 to 2 pounds quickly. She was in the NICU for 3 months. And even when she got to go home, she was on oxygen and her feeding had to be extremely accurate and well documented. It was really hard for her and her parents. But, she’s 10 years old now and one of the funniest kids I’ve ever met. She’s smart, talented, active, and just like any other kid her age.
Many people are willing to abort a baby at 28 weeks or later and it breaks my heart. Yeah, some help might be needed, but it’s not a reason to abort. That is a person.
before viability of 24 weeks will be a fine legal limit
@@AMC2283 I don’t agree. Medical necessity, rape, and incest, yes. But just because it’s an inconvenience, no. No baby is “viable” without some kind of intervention for a very long time. A 2 month old newborn baby cannot live without help. A 3 year old cannot live without help. A baby born at 28 weeks cannot live without help. What’s the difference!? A life was made. Scientifically AT conception (it’s called the geminal stage). Every single life is a life and has potential and killing it because it’s inconvenient isn’t the answer. A 24 week old baby isn’t less than anything.
All the things developed by/at 24 weeks:
Heart
Teeth (in skull)
Tastebuds
Arms, legs, fingers, and toes
Vocal chords
Fingernails
Intestines
Joints
All organs, bones, and muscles
Strength in the muscles
Circulatory system, digestive system, and urinary systems
Liver is producing bile
Eyelashes
Skin/body hair
Unique fingerprints
Hiccups
Genitalia
Lips and ears (they can hear you talk, and can hear the mother’s heartbeat, stomach sounds, and breathing)
Fat
Sleep/wake cycle
Movement
Bone marrow
also, BABIES CAN LIVE IN THE NICU AFTER THE 23rd WEEK
Lungs developed
Pretty much everything after week 24 is just growth, all the other stuff is already there. Advocating for 3rd trimester abortions is WILD to me.
The cat I had growing up adopted us. She was crying at our back door and my dad fed her. We decided to adopt her and took her to the vet to get her fixed. She was barely a year old, but pregnant. They said they could do a kitty abortion and then spay her, but I (13 years old) said NO. I would not let them kill her babies. So she had her babies and then when they were old enough they were all adopted. And then we got her spayed. If some of them weren’t adopted, I would have kept them all also. Unwanted by one person doesn’t mean unwanted by everyone. There are about 2 million couples WAITING to adopt in the United States. Why is it ok to rip a baby apart, literally?
While I don’t think any abortions outside of medical necessity, rape, or incest should be allowed, I think the heartbeat is much more of a common ground.
"Oh, he can't draw a Fallopian tube".
"OK John, draw an abortion".
...and his face was shut. 👏👍
@Hexl702 your mind is more shallow than a stream of piss on flat ground.
@Hexl702 lol yeah. A death she chooses to make lol.
A woman’s right?? What if the baby is a girl? Does she have any rights and wants to choose life? Thank your mother for choosing life for you!
God bless you and your family always, Ben. Thank you for fighting for truth
Hey Gerald, thanks for this show! It's VERY legal VERY cool!
"You’re technically a bundle of cells" had me laughing
@Chaim Nelson
Same here 👌
“you are technically a bundle of cells”
I love Ben
Yes, I am technically a bunch of cells. So is my foot, which loses cells by the day.
What's your point?
Well your foot also gains thousands of cells a day so...
@@anticommunist3415 Yeah, so?
Meaning: We lose and gain bunches of cells all the time, where's the huge Shapiro-level debate on that?
@@qqqalo bro shut up your identity on the internet is "bruh sound effect v2" you have no personality fucking loser
@@someoneyouprobablyknowandl9964 the difference is those are your cells. that is your foot. same DNA. the other much debated cells in this topic: not yours.
I’m literally sick to my stomach for you Ben. The fact that you are forced to describe this horror, because people are so ignorant😢😢
I so love that a young man is standing up for truth and children! Thank you Ben Shapiro! Gives me hope for our future generations!
The second guy basically said that he's alright with killing people with Amnesia.
Paweł Skotnica true villains don’t even know sometimes that they’re villains; that’s what makes them so scary.
@Lisa Romano You know who else did that? The Nazi regime.
Yep he is this the new natzi party
The second guy is mentally deficient. There's NO logical way to say "he lost his memories, let's kill him."
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"There's not an abortion in the world that doesn't end in the death of a baby."
abortion prevents needless suffering.
@@Stonedtosheep It isn´t needless suffering.
@@monamuller8969 yes it is. You don't need anything if you don't exist. You don't need anything before you exist. Only after you exist do you need anything. Before you existed there was no need for your need.
@@Stonedtosheep The baby exit though.
@@monamuller8969
The non-sentient fetus exists. Babies are by definition born sentient beings that suffer.
How about just don't have sex if you're not ready to have a baby or don't want a baby?
It's NEVER OK to kill a baby. If I had been told that I could carry a baby full term but that it would kill me, I would speak to my husband and ask him to make sure that our baby knew how much I loved him/her... and I would speak to my sisters and ask them to make sure that they helped to raise our baby so that they could have mother figures.
there's a clear medical difference between abortion and what you're wildly imagining
"Facts don't care about your Appendix"
And that’s a fact.
I've finally found him, our one god, obama prism
Rape isn't consent...
@@dyfrigshandy troll
@@gru1225 nope, aint no troll but fact
Ben Shapiro changed my mind on abortion, his non religious arguments surprised me as msm tells us anti abortionists are religious nuts
Yeah, religion should never be brought up into politics
@@roy9776 it can, but the use of religion with politics should be right and rational.
Meh, good for you. Didn't work on me.
abortion should only be the womens choice, do u want it to be like ecuador where women get put in jail for 10 years for having a miscarriage?!?!? because thats where strict anti abortion laws lead to
@@jasmines.6325 who said we want to give a woman 10 years in prison for a miscarriage? It’s not even the same as an abortion anyway. In fact, many pro lifers believe we should arrest the doctors, not the mother
In HS i had to do a report about something i felt passionate about. And I studied abortion and I studied infant development in the womb. And knew it was wrong
An unwanted baby can be a beautiful gift to a husband and wife that can not have their own. Adoption adoption aadoption.
“So, just to get this straight.”
Everyone in the room knew at that moment that this man was screwed.
i actually like that silly bro-dude-fratboy-coma-stabber looking guy cause at least he was consistent with his ideology and was willing to admit his bogus beliefs and say it, compared to the even worse psycho-bortionists who pretend to have a moral high ground but cannot even utter what they really mean because they actually know they are WRONG and saying it will cement the conversation.
@@peacebestillconversations3761 Yea his arguments were completely absurd, but you're right at least he didn't back-peddle
I agree with him. I can't for the life of me understand why some people value biological existence (and even possibility of such existence), when there is no consciousness attached to it. This is some deeply like-based thing, "I am a human so I like humans", even if those humans don't have a brain.
When Shapiro says that "in 9 months it will become a person, so you cant kill it now", I just want to ask one thing. If you discourage two opposite sex people from mating, do you in fact kill the child that they would have had otherwise, without your manipultlation? Or there is something special about the particular moment of conception that makes any action preventing the child from appearing after that wrong?
@@lavrikmaksim1814 There is no measurement for consciousness- even Panpsychism suggests that everything- the actual universe itself could have a form of consciousness.
@@lavrikmaksim1814 once you start assigning relative value to different humans based on their physical features or mental faculties, you end up with a very very slippery slope. How do you think the Nazis justified Aktion T4 or the holocaust? One of the problems is that literally every pro abortion argument can be applied to people who have already been born and that is very dangerous. Either all human life is valuable or none of it is. Not to mention that we can't measure consciousness, we barely even understand the concept. What is consciousness how do you define it, how do you determine if something has or hasn't got it. You can't, because it's not measurable. What about people who are comatose? What about people who are asleep? Consciousness simply doesn't work as a line in the sand, it's a philosophical concept rather than a scientific one.
“All things truly wicked start from ignorance.”
--Ernest Hemingway.
especially when they are willfully ignorant of the facts, the mental gymnastics they have to go through to protect themselves from cognitive dissonance their illogical stance requires is astounding!
Well you botched the saying a little, its "all things truly wicked start from innocence"
Yeah, like anti-abortion bigots.
@Great Destroyer Hate it like any other religion.
People ask first trimester pregnant women, how is the baby doing not how is the fetus doing.
The Bible also pointed out that” god knew you when you first was in the womb”
“Specifically and predictably a very short time… say, 9 months?” CRACKS me up every time. He kills it.
LOL
It's funny, but doesn't hold as an argument. Since nobody argues that the fetus was a living human being/person before conception. And those who insist, also insist that it is one after abortion. Except hindus maybe, but they still see that as a good outcome.
We distinguish between things that exist and don't exist. The soul, prior to the soul, does not exist. The soul after the soul, does not exist. But as we intuit it, someone in a coma still has a soul. It's just temporarily disabled, on a vacation, name it what you want.
Of course, we may believe other things. But faith doesn't hold as an argument in politics.
sorsocksfake could you clarify your points? very confusing
@@luisishere987
Sure. We tend to believe in a continuous soul that makes us a person, in some form or another. We disagree on what souls really are, and religion is no argument in politics.
But it offers us a working framework regarding murder.
When you're asleep, or in a coma, you're still there. Even if you're not responsive. Hence, your body is protected.
When you're dead, or your corpse is reanimated, you're not there. Even if your body still moves. Hence, your body is not protected.
And when you're not there yet - for instance, a replacement body that's still sitting on a shelf for later use, or a fetus before ensoulment - you're not there. Even if it can move. Hence, your body is not protected.
I think that'll be a relatable framework for most people here (even if we'd argue on details). It works fine even if you believe a fetus is ensouled in its first second. And while I have some doubts, I think it's as fair a starting point as any.
He’s so quick with his comebacks
When you have no argument you go for personal attacks
All the time I agree...
or you play identity politics
Exactly 💯
That's when you truly lost...
Oh, the wonderland of women forced through pregnancy by the natural law of rape. By the way allot of female rape victims are already married to other men.
If women have a legal right to abortion based upon "My body, my choice, " then there should be laws against saving a woman from suicide. Just a point for logical argument.
As a young american man i want to say thank you for the service you provide and the help you give to people like myself who feel society now dosnt represent our values and morals.
keep up gods work, you are the DEFINITION of having a gift for speaking
god's work? are you even the same religion?
“As a white well-off religious man” nice
As if that's a bad thing & as if that has nothing to do with human life.
whitexchina that’s what the left have brainwashed their people to believe lol
Some leftist: this opressor isnt white becouse he's jew
It's just me but left sounds Very antisemitist
Rape isn't consent...
@@dyfrigshandy Rape isn’t the same thing as consent? What the fuck are you taking about?
“Just because you can doesn't mean you should.” - Sherrilyn Kenyon
This comment should be pinned. 👏
I already disagreed with abortion but I had no idea how abortions work
I'm disgusted
I loved being pregnant!!! My babies were alive inside me from conception!! How anyone could be stupid enough to think they aren't alive at conception is beyond my comprehension
Love him or hate him, this man is spitting straight facts. A child is biologically alive since conception.
No bruh lol
That’s not a fact at all.
@@JVan-ic6ic Sorry, but that's the truth.
Gabriel Drummond no it’s not. An embryo is a highly undifferentiated bunch of cells so much so that you probably won’t be able to tell the difference between a chicken embryo and a human embryo until after a few weeks.
Agree. He/She is alive because otherwise the baby would not develop; if the zygote is dead then it would be discarded with the menstrual fluid.
"Killing babies is not the answer for your bad sexual decisions" Thank you Ben!!!
Would you prefer to see them die of starvation if you lived in a poor country? It's a much more merciful way to go t like this, fast and spares them more pain, also I left another coment on why abortion shouldn't be stopped so you can go ahead and look for it in the comment section if you want more reason. I'm not going to list it again.
@@gigidotto9014 In America, or Canada, where these abortions are taking place, these babies would be placed in adoption agencies. Those kids do not starve to death; however, third world countries where they would starve, don’t have the option to even have an abortion in the first place.
@@matthewt5335 yes Im very well aware of third world countries, but if people just started giving birth to babies they didn't want just because of the (stop abortion is horrible) would mean a drastic raise in world population which we have a massive issue at the moment, sooner or later farms will not even be able to feed all this hungry mouth including us even if you have money because the food resources wouldn't be enough, that's why in China there was a child restriction birth, and this is also why governments are also trying to introduce insect in our diet which they already are, they done that to the flour in Italy;
no child is happy in orphanage and would also mean affecting the economy terribly as the would be millions and millions of orphanages,
Do you understand how unrealistic this plan is? People would have to start paying taxes twice as much to sustain so many children and might I remind you of inflation people struggle to pass by and can barely afford to eat, there wouldn't be enough staff to take care for all of them to begin with and sooner or later a new law would establish that if you have an unvanted child you can't even bring it to an orphanage because no spaces are available, and that's when people start abandoning their children wherever they have the chance, many would die even more brutal deaths than an abortion at 1 to 3 weeks of life and the economy would get even more fucked up then it already is. Just because of a law that states, you are not allowed to abort. As brutal as that sound that's reality, you truly believe that forcing someone to keep their unwanted child is better? And yes after giving such a law the numbers of children abandoned and in orphanages would high rocket, causing the government to introduce abortion again and actually encourage it, because the money the government gives to businesses and orphanages is taken through taxes that we pay. Do I have to remind you of inflation? Not everyone can be saved, that's also a reason why there are wars going on, for example the one right now with Russia is not just happend there is a lot proof that it was planned from 2015, why? Because we "humanity" are reproducing like rabbits. And Covid? There was a book published 10 years ago speaking of how covid will come too. All of this is planned to control the worlds population as ridiculous as it sounds is true. This is the world we live in. I have been told more than 7 years ago that a 3WW was coming and I also thought that was a load of bullshit, but look at what's happening now. Most of the children born in this era will have no future or a good job, and the numerous disocupation / homeless and no job would increase even more. So what's the point of bringing more souls in this world? When it's this ruined already and about to fall before everyone's eyes? You feeling better because an unborn baby is not aborted? That's not a reason.
@@matthewt5335 Also I never said they deserve death.
@@gigidotto9014 so you mean to say that killing babies is good because it solves world hunger and overpopulation?.... two things, one of which is entirely made up and the other is VERY solvable, first lets talk about world hunger, world hunger is a very real but also a very solvable problem, and the answer to solving it is not more charities or more government regulations, the answer is YOU. There have been entire CITIES like mecca, where 100s of years ago when almost everyone was Muslim there, the amount of people not being fed were ASTONISHINGLY low, almost non existent, not because everyone was rich, but because everyone was rich at heart, neighbors would check on others to see if they had eaten, entire places would be made for free food and stay, all out of generosity. Nowadays people just pay $1 to a charity and expect the charity to magically reach all parts of the world and end world hunger, world hunger can be solved JUST by being aware of your surroundings and helping out in any capacity you can rather than donating to charities where that money will go through several people, buildings and bank accounts to end up feeding a person. *Now that we have a very much easier solution to world hunger, do you mean to say mass genocide of kids is better than THIS?* Now lets talk about the second reason for the justification of abortions, world population is not a true problem in this world, overpopulated AREAS is. There has been a MASSIVE decline of population in Japan and other countries which prohibit more than 2 children or pay for abortions, there is already a need for an estimated 10 MILLION working individuals, or lets talk about Poland which has the lowest birth rate since the end of the Second World War. The hoax of over population is created to push agendas such as abortion, its also created because big companies want to say that overpopulation is the cause of climate change and not their negligence while discarding materials like plastic or making excessive green house gas emissions. *Now one of the reason you stated was fake, and the other one is easily treatable*
Another thing you said was "what's the point of bringing more souls in this world?"
And my answer to that is, there's really not allot of point if you look at it from an individualistic stand point, I mean yeah your kids would contribute to society but that won't affect you the parents, so why should you have kids? well, if you don't want kids, then DON'T HAVE KIDS!
It shouldn't be that the child should have to pay for with his/her's life with for the mistakes YOU as a mother and father made, if you didn't want the kid then maybe you should've used contraceptives, *the product of your ignorance shouldn't be the death of a child*
I have never been pro-abortion. I am now even less NOT pro-abortion. well done Ben.
This is crazy what this country is turned into. Pure evil. I moved here 15 years ago, I’m an immigrant. It breaks my heart to see how America changed in the last 15 years. So sad. This is the only country in the world where such idiotic debates are possible. Thanks Ben for standing up for basic truths
If you’re referring to the arguments specifically In this video I agree. These kids had no ideas what their own stance even is, but if you mean the argument of having a choice is evil you’re insane. Ben never even made an argument for rape/incest because most people are not okay with forcing a woman to give birth to baby conceived through rape. It’s cruel, much worse than killing a baby. No one even brought up if the baby is a danger to the mothers life. Like I agree abortion isn’t good, but I’m not stupid enough to say it’s all bad and women shouldn’t have a right to get one if necessary
Amen. His outrage at this evil is so refreshing.
God bless u 🙂🌷
Corruption U2 👍
but it's not evil in anyway, a fetus has no right to life
bobcharlie Why. Give me one piece of factual information that will support your argument. A fetus is a human being and life starts at conception
@@adinterovic3253 Yes, a fetus is a human being and life starts at conception, but a fetus still has no right to life. This is because a fetus is not sentient until at least 18 weeks, so why should it have a right to life before then? Given it isn't sentient and doesn't have any relationships the only thing you can say is it's potential to become a sentient human. However you must remember that the fetus only became a fetus with that potential because of mothers choice and willingness to commit to 9 months of pregnancy, it would never have existed and got the potential to become a sentient human if she didn't choose for it to exist with her willingness to commit to 9 months of pregnancy, and the ONLY consequence of aborting a non sentient fetus it is that it won't go on to become a sentient human. So when a mother loses willingness to go through pregnancy and stops the pregnancy, the fetus loses it's potential to become a sentient human, which it only got from the mothers willingness to be pregnant, and since the fetus losing it's potential to become a sentient human is the ONLY consequence, she should have the right to stop the pregnancy. Just as when someone agrees to do something, and the only consequence of them stopping the agreement is that they won't do the agreed thing, they should have the right to stop their agreement. There can be cases where stopping agreements can have consequences other than the agreed thing not happening, for example agreeing to pay builders to build a house then stopping your agreement halfway through them building the house, the consequence of this is not just you not paying them, but they have put in ours of unpaid labour, in these cases people may lose their right to just stop an agreement. But this is not the case with abortion, as while the fetus is not sentient, the only consequence of aborting it is it will lose it's potential to become a sentient human, but it only got this potential because the mothers agreement to create this fetus with this potential, so stopping the agreement is this case just means the agreed thing not happening. You might ask but what about someone it a coma who has lost sentience? If someone is in a coma and is being kept alive by a hospital, but you kill them, you have intervened with their life by killing them, they would have continued living had you not intervened. This is not the case with abortion as the fetus must stay attached to the mothers body, it won't survive if detached and left alone by the mother. You might also ask should the hospital even keep someone alive if they are in a coma and not sentient? If this person in a coma wants to live, then a hospital keeping them alive until they wake up is beneficial to their well-being, and in that sense better than letting them die. If a fetus was kept alive by the mother or could be detached and kept alive by a hospital it would be beneficial to the future human's well-being as they probably like being alive. Does this mean a mother should be forced to keep unwanted pregnancies? No, as the fetus has no right to life for reasons just explained.
0:00 men can't decide for women (morality)
2:15 what is life (morality)
5:47 responsibility vs. convenience (morality)
7:40 my body my rights (logic)
8:05 clump of cells (science/morality)
10:20 convenience vs science (morality)
12:20 when is life (science)
13:00 if abortion is murder , guns should be (logic)
15:35 cons of illegality (logic)
18:30 late term abortion (science/morality)
21:25 when is life/moral (science/logic)
23:00 convenience vs murder (morality)
23:30 reproductive Rights (science)
26:20 convenience vs responsibility (morality)
30:00 clump of cells (science)
31:20 exceptions - rape (logic)
Daddyissues Only we need these on every of Shapiro’s debate videos.
You sir, are a blessing to the entire world and you're comment should be pinned for everyone to see.
Thanks for this.
Ben Shapiro's tech guys need to pin this comment.
best comment ever, thanks doode~!
The fact that we have to have this conversation is disheartening. We are doomed.
I’ve been on the other side of this where I didn’t get a choice that my partner had an abortion for no other reason that it wasn’t convenient for her. I live in the UK and men have no rights to be able to stop this.
“White well-off religious man...”
Already rolling my eyes...
Sounds slightly racist.. ?
I assume she's quoting somebody from the video and is rolling her eyes at the person who said it. Not at Ben
Amanda Bateman She is an ugly fat lady who is also stupid
Or the Straight White Male
Some bigots might call me a white, well-off religious male, but I identify as a beige, in-debt, gender-fluid individual who worships only one more god than atheists.
Its hard to make a pro murder arguement without sounding like a psychopath
It's absolutely easy to argue in favor of pro choice. Some ppl in the video had pretty good ideas. It's not like ben's argument are particularly good. He just rehearsed them for years and doesn't need to actually think them through on stage.
@@james1098778910 What makes you think he's not thinking his arguments through?
Because they aren't arguments in favor of abortion (what people say is pro-choice), or what?
“Pro murder” fuck off dude good god how can people possibly find abortion this awful
@@grubber well you're murdering a child in the womb, how people can say its anything other than murder is beyond me.
@@Keesha_Hardy i said he doesn't need to think them through ON STAGE. because he rehearsed them a million times. That's the reason he dominated in debates.
Doesn't mean his arguments are convincing. He isn't even arguing in favor of pro-life, he just tries to find contradiction in pro-choice arguments. Which of course doesn't prove pro-life right.
I went with a friend to get a pregnancy test at a clinic and while we were waiting on the test results they had us watch an abortion video. That scarred me for life. It's showed different ones and the long term one was them using forceps and breaking the baby's limbs off and pulling them out piece by piece. I don't see have anybody could do something so horrific.
Exactly! And people don't believe that's really how it's done! I tried to explain it to someone and their response was "yeah, right. 🙄They don't break the baby apart..." I wish there was a way to require all kids to watch that video and be truly educated on it once a year, from 7th grade through 12th.
@@nathanwebb4752 No, most of abortion is farmacogical
God bless you, Ben for fighting this battle, as every life is precious. In today's world I would likely never have been born as I would have been considered a threat to my mother. I was stillborn and a very skilled doctor arrived from outside of our town in time to revive my lifeless infant self while my parents looked on in grief. In my hometown there were a number of women all expecting at the same time. In the end an illness, which all the mothers caught, struck down all of the other infants resulting in one stillborn child after another. My mother used to tell me stories of how I had seven mothers for the first few years of my life as my survival was considered a miracle. So, thank you
"You're technically a bundle of cells" 🤣
“BoDy AuToNiMiTy.”
Anyone notice how the pro-abortion chick in the college class kept saying that instead of autonomy.
Definitely was annoying af
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This was amazing. It's amazing to me that we have to determine when a baby is a baby. Why can't these people use protection??
God bless you and your family. Thank you for speaking the truth and using your intellect and knowledge. I hope people are listening, because it needs to be heard. Bless your work and dedication sir.
“So it’s not ok to kill fluffy the hamster but......” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
it’s ok to kill something as alive as a plant
@@petrasolano9531 but its a human ...
@@martalevin4829 no it’s not
@@martalevin4829 y’all sound dumb af saying we’re killing something that isn’t born like bruh
@@petrasolano9531 same like nazis ,telling people who is worth of living and who's don't. a day before birth is also not a human for you? the you wrote stupid says you have no argument .
The cheapest contraceptive is called "No"...it's free!
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@Hexl702 When did i say abstinence?
Your comment is made useless by that interjection!
Teaching children about morals is a good way to reduce population.
Early 1800s we had 1 billion people... doubled or tripled AFTER THE WORLD WARS, then escalated after that.
The family unit began to fall apart because of the industrial revolution...when morals began to decline!
When sexuality is imparted in every facet of the modern world then Yes sexually immorality becomes the norm.
Look how you reacted to a simple "No" as being
Snarky.
Ghost Dogg or just get a 35 cent or free condom
@@rolliemcsplat7618 When you say no (or use a condom) you save a life:
Millions of abortions happen yearly, just because No is not considered as a option!
@Hexl702 Order's? You can choose your own morality but the results are obvious... unscheduled children and abortions aka murder!
Best way not to get pregnant, don’t have sex.
I love people like you Ben.
Love how these “young adults” coming to gun fight with a spoon.
A plastic spoon no less
they have to bring spoons because they made all the guns illegal
@Hexl702 Actually you do. There should always be an argument or something called into question when innocent lives are being snuffed out.
Hexl702 lmao nice argument. Slavery was legal at one point, so why did anyone argue against it? Abortion is mass murder on a global scale, and it’s wrong.
Hexl702 the nazis lost to the us when we had Jim Crow. That’s such a stupid argument. Just because a country decided that something is morally wrong doesn’t justify injustices and evils that occur in said country.