Path To The Bismarck! Gneisenau (World of Warships Legends Xbox Series X) 4k
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:18 Commander
00:34 Equipment
01:05 Stats
03:55 Armor Viewer
06:42 Gameplay Starts - Hry
Spartan: plays Gneisenau
Me: *Impossible*
The WG should pay a little more attention to the line of German battleships, I know the dispersion has already been "improved" but it still remains deplorable. It was the first line I completed until Tier7. I love playing with Gneisenau Brawler build with CMD Ciliax, it has already provided me with great matches.
I'm always so amazed how my teammate destroyers potato so hard. Like how they don't go for capture points but still pick a little spot of ocean to smoke up on and still block my line of sight while I get spotted. I feel your pain. 😭
I’m willing to smoke up for a BB if I see he’s getting swarmed by planes. But if you need help in a BB ask me so I can adjust my strategy accordingly, cause if I’m sacrificing a chance at a high score to chase that carrier I’m trying to avoid him finding me before I can grab him by the belt buckle. Regardless if I can keep big guns in action I’ll definitely try to do what I can for you
I'm watching this in a tent in the middle of a campsite.
Awesome
Yo same but I’m in an rv. Have fun!
Wifi is bad but thanks.
Is there a way you can show these with “regular” captains? I know not a lot of people have some of these same specialty captains. Still great videos though.
In the first episode I went over the other commanders builds.
Yeah they literally don’t even sell Hyde anymore
First episode he did
@@jf198500001 how do you get Hide anyway, am decently new to the game, heres the story if you wanted to know, been play world of tanks blitz since i was 5, then till abt a week ago played wows blitz for 2 days, then 2 days ago found out about this game played it and am about to get the gneisenau
@@SnipR9 it was from a Halloween crate i think, might come back this fall
Just want to say that I love ur vids, you give useful tips and show the true potential of underrated ships. :)
Glad you enjoy what I do
I run a Lutjens stealth build.
With Kondo and Boyd.
Aim systems, engine mod, and concealment......but you could run AA or secondary in slot one.
Having access to ingenious and fully packed is huge.
The AA defense is just good enough to go it alone.
What a distraction!
This ship really comes into its own with either Ciliax or AL Scharnhorst. I’ve been playing more recently using Hipper and have had some good games, but AL and Ciliax with Hipper as an inspiration make this ship an absolute beast.
The end pronunciation is like Gneissen"ow", as in "wow".
I hope more people watch your videos and learn about overmatch.
I lost count of how many times cruisers either bow tank BBs which overmatch them or run away from BBs wich do not.
So they get deleted or just abandon you turning an easy winable 2v1 or 3v1 situation into my demise.
I havent really had too big of problems with carriers so far. That may have to do with me mostly playing american ships. One tactic ive been using is actually steering into the torpedoes because if youre lucky you can get them to hit you before they arm. Its saved my tennessee from a lot of potential flooding damage.
Those invisible destroyers on the other hand...
It's actually better to go away from them. Almost like your drifting. You make there time spent in your AA longer. Flamu on PC showed it going against several CVs at one time in the training room. Actually torpedo bombers are the easiest to take down. I haven't struggled against CVs but I have experience against them.
NO WAY, THIS IS FAKE SPARTAN WITH A GNEISENAU GAMEPLAY I'M CRYING
PD: this ship needs a buff on her accuracy, it's so bad, no main guns.
😄
I do agree with that ( it is a brawler) but once you get closer you can absolutely devastate the enemy. At point blank I dev struck an Izmail. Also you do get those brawler torps that are amazing.
@@aidopotatooooo7140 yes, she's amazing when you're close to the enemy, but, let's not forget about the fact that the idea of a Battleship is to use the main guns, you get 0 respect from cruisers for example, just a little bit better dispersion will improve a lot this ship... And also she has 6 cannons.
My favourite ship. 😍😍😍😍😍
I’m going to tell you this Spartan. In a faster DD or Cruiser I’m looking for a break through usually then I go carrier hunting. I’m also known to use my carrier to hunt the other carrier, but yeah I’ve found that if one member of your team is willing to chase the enemy flattop then more often then not they can bottle the carrier up or force him to keep running without launching planes. See if a carrier is busy trying to run from my Konigsberg or my Farragut then there is no way they can launch planes and be remotely effective. This is also a nice strategy if your bottom tier. Sure you can cause as much havoc as possible on your way past, but your main goal is to either force that carrier to focus on trying to get away from you, or try to focus his planes on you which when you can do almost 40 knots is and they can do 18 to 25 pretty easy to run one down. The one thing I do want however is a radar directed AA on battleships. This pumps up the rate of fire and the damage for 1 minute. This way a carrier will loose most if not all of his planes trying to kill you. I think that’s fair so if you need to avoid going broadside to avoid incoming torpedo planes you can be confident that they aren’t going to live long enough to drop them
22:43 I mean… the Richelieu Class were literally designed to counter the Scharnhorst sisters.
Great video! The Gneisenau does not get enough enthusiasm from the WoW Legends player universe.
I want to share a recent discovery that greatly improved my game in both the Gneisenau and Scharnhorst and reinforces a lot of what Spartan demonstrated, but with a different build that impacts the speed and rudder shift of both the Gneisenau &. Scharnhorst.
It’s an Agile/Speed build demonstrated by VII Hipper who, like Spartan, has an outstanding channel.
Hipper’s out-of-the-box commander build is Lutjens as the the Gneisenau’s primary commander and Emile’ Guepratte and AL Baltimore as inspirations. He also used this identical build on the Scharnhorst.
This gave the Gneisenau a top speed of nearly
37 knots and rudder shift of approximately 8.4 seconds.
VII Hipper demonstrated a very aggressive approach of pushing immediately toward a cap, easily outracing the enemy ships while forcefully creating an uncomfortable distance between himself and the enemy ships, because the Gneisenau, in his opinion, is best fighting in confined spaces at a greatly reduced distance that makes the opposing player uncomfortable, especially when you have torpedos.
I tried this build and got immediate results with both ships greatly increasing my impact in matches while achieving higher scores for myself which is awesome.
Spartan, let me know if you’ve watched both of VII Hipper’s videos and given this build a try, because I think that rudder shift improvement could mitigate some (but not all) of those torpedo impacts from the opposing carrier. Let me know what you think.
You are a beast at this game. As a new guy it is amazing your knowledge
Spartan you really uploaded this game :D... It was such a horrible game right from the beginning. I was in the hood. The carrier kept attacking me the first 5min.regardless we won, didn't expect that. Gg
Haha yeah was a rough one but some good moments
@@SpartanElite43 well I chase carriers when I’m bottom tier in a fast cruiser or DD. I despise them with a passion and if I can force a Hosho. A Langley, or whatever it is to have to run from me and not be able to launch planes I will. And guys like you need to give a shout-out to carrier hunters. Be they DDs Cruisers or other carriers
Spartan i know you realized . The large caliber secondaries in most bb,s that you see in cannon section AND anti air section , meaning they could fire at planes .
But i personally never seen them target the planes whatsoever , and i couldn't find a specific settings for it
Do you know how this works?
Dual purpose guns whether main batteries or secondaries automatically add to the dpm of your AA
@@SpartanElite43 ooh didn't know , thanks
I think that the Gneisenau is a great Ship. First of All, you have torps, which is an amazing advantage in close combat and compromises the low number of Main guns. You have secondaries, which are actually usefull and they shred destroyers if you take the secondary buff instead of the plane. You're also pretty fast and agile. The AA is also good but not enough against Tier VII Carriers, which is in my opinion for every ship the Case, but the AA in this game is trash anyway. You can get big damage through your Super structure and HE does kill you pretty Quick.
I can agree with you right there The ship is amazing at close quarter combat and that's the combat I did with that ship because no one could dodge the torpedoes when I got 3 km to them
the aa in this game is trash for every ship except for the california and friesland
“HE does kill you pretty quick”! HAHAHAHA weakness, died many times due to fire. I’m currently at tier 7 Gneisenau and to tell here that I can relate to the comments (accuracy, the torps, secondaries, etc…) but honestly I sometimes regret getting this line of german BB because i was aiming to get the G. Kurfust but they replaced it with Pruessen haven’t played WoWs for years and just came back. 😂😂😅😅😅😅
You are suprised by the Richelieus shots??
Happes to me all the time when I fight one.
I was waiting to see how you would play the Gneisenau! I have the scharnhorst commander for some accuracy and the brawler. This build is godly for me haha. Works better than everything else I've been trying.
Love the content spartan
I wish Gneisenau would have an option to use the 11” guns or the 15” guns if you desire. I know that Scharnhorst’s unique feature is that it’s a Gneisenau with the armament that it served its career with, but personally I don’t like the 15” at all.
I have and enjoy both ships, and it took me awhile to get there with the G-wagon. Thing is, as similar as they are, they’re still very different and need to be played differently. Scharnhorst has faster turret traverse, faster reload, and better dispersion overall. But, her armor pen is lower because of the smaller guns. Granted, they’re high velocity 283 mm guns which helps offset the difference somewhat, but you will never overmatch anything more than a light cruiser so you have to aim differently than you do with Gneisenau. I also run different commander builds on the two ships to help exploit their differences.
I love Gneisenau!
Awesome Secondaries, okay aim with the right set up, and oh my god.. those torpedoes!
I see you haven't unlocked the Bismarck yet
Because if you have you would realize how much of a piece of shit it is
@@datboisnoiceofficial4785 better than the Bayern
You should do the russians after the germans you would be surprised about their armor layout
Floating Citadels of sadness
Too funny 🤣
now i miss Naval Creed...british battleships with M-AP(magic AP) that hits multiple citadel shots on bow tanking germans is exactly what the doctor ordered...it was all YOLO germans with 10km+ secondaries until that point...
"Let me start out by saying; it's a good looking ship!" 🤣
I'm having way more fun on this game than on the pc. Of course there are derpy games still and I count myself as a derp on occasion, (😇) but still hella enjoyable. Keep up the great vids! 👍👍
100% agree on the crossplay topic. It drives me nuts when you end up in 3v3s or 4v4s. You spend half your time trying to find enemies to engage.
I finally made it to the Bismarck yesterday…I enjoyed the Gnespisenau. There is a big difference between the two.
Still stuck on Bayern. It really sucks because is can never seem to do anything with the horrible shell spread, and my placement isn’t very good so I often get taken out early.
@@HerrZhukov I luckily got the Azur Lane Scharnhorst captain…her and having Norman Scott on assist will help with that grouping.
@@BTKVENOM43 I’m free to play… I’m still trying to get to Otto Cilliax.
@@BTKVENOM43 Norman Scott just work on Cruisers tho, and I agree, Bayern is such a painful experience
It's the only one ship that i truly *swore to never sail ever again*, yet still using it to break my sanity for fun...
The brawling situations truly doesn't fall in my favor with this thing. At least, scharnhorst is truly what i seek the brawler way.
Finally on the ship I’m grinding credits to get the Bismarck with
Managed to get this ship elite before I got enough credits to even buy Yorck
I did this but I also suggest grinding on tier 5s less repair cost
Hey spartan im happy for you Because yesterday you had 46.1k subs now you have 46.2k
Hey, thanks!
@@SpartanElite43 Yw
Hey @spartan what ship would you recommend using to complete the “set 20 fires in one match” challenge?? I’ve used a lot of different ships and have gotten close but still short.
Another great teaching moment
Yoooo this ship was lowkey fun as hell
The Gneisenau was the only German battleship that I liked and from what I learned is don’t be afraid to get close. It shines when fighting close. Like 10 km or closer.
Honestly for me it was a love hate relationship I liked that it was fast but the dispersion killed me
I like the Bismarck more just because the 22 second reload I have plus those secondaries help alot the Gneisenau isn't a bad ship but while grinding to the Bismarck I'd barely get to use my torps
@@dinosquad999 well yes you may like the bismarck more but isn't that an entire 1 or 2 tiers higher? so it would be better anyway
@@jayman_g1215 yeah I like both ships just Bismarck feels more consistent it's not a bad ship for tier 6 it's just I don't like the accuracy at all
I'm current trying to get to the Iowa and from coming from German ships I hate how slow the Colorado is but it's not a bad shio
Got my German BB's on a secondary build. Hyde is lendend 3. Same inspirations. I just dont trust main guns to do much. Sad german secondaries are better than the mains. But i also play highly aggressive so my build makes sense for my play style. Still great games
I've been getting some pretty good dispersion on my Gneisenau idk if they buffed the dispersion.
Have you got different camera settings ??
Agree on the carrier point. Can’t even use my German BBs anymore due to German carriers
Ohhhhh, I've been waiting for this one, even thoug I'm a little late
Spartan did u notice that the enemy gneisenau torped the akatsuki that was open water gunning him?
I could never get on with the gneisenau, the lack of main battery firepower always made missing shots so painful
I run Hyde with Cunningham and scharnhorst azure lane as inspirations
Nothing special, but I was honestly surprised. I had citadel the Gneisenau with the Arizona. It was spectacular with a damage of atleast 16k or 17k.
This ship is great when properly handled!!
I think they should remove that consumable on the T7 Aircraft carriers were they become invulnerable to damage, just straight up unfair in a BB, you can dodge much better in cruisers and destroyers but in BBs it’s no fun, and it’s not like you can ‘angle against them like other ships
I agree with you Spartan.Carriers are not for this game for many reasons.Btw great video
I guess i have no idea how to play carriers. My bombs never hit.
I honestly almost prefer Gneisenau over bismarck, its more my style. Get in and get the job done and be a distraction for your team. Really fun and great review as always spartan. 👍
Thanks for doing these Spartan! I hope your next path will be the Russians! It would be so great when you explain the ships, to point out any specific weaknesses when you show the armor viewer. I watch a lot of your videos to know how I should be engaging certain ships I have trouble taking down. Like you said know your enemy! You did a great job of that with your American line and even showcased it in action when you pointed out why you were aiming where you were at times. Thanks again for all the great content. Good luck and fair seas!
Spartan you should do a remaster of the “Meet the Scharnhorst” video. Scharnhorst (in my opinion) is better than Gneisenau. Also I do agree with having carriers (especially German carriers) can be annoying.
You definitely should redo it spartan
SCHARNHORST WAS MY 1ST PREMIUM SHIP I BOUGHT 😃
Yay Spartan! Won't lie... I've all but stopped playing atm due to the potato matchmaking. One match after another being an ass whipping or an ass whipped is boring af. Throw in the lack of aa on many ships has killed me working some lines so yeah...and invulnerability on planes...wtf lol 🤣
Yo i can't wait until you try the North Carolina battleship! Ngl lie the main 16inch guns on North Carolina are almost the same as the Alabama
The North Carolina is an amazing ship but extremely deadly if you're within 10 km broad siding
@@ryanm.2930 I know!! If you play it right! You can go one on one with a iowa and yes I destroyed a iowa with the North Carolina
Path to the vanguard next??
Lot of good points along w all the negativity.
A good ship if you know how to use it! 😏
Spartan what’s the best way to counter this thing in a bb???
Keep your distance it only has 6km torp range so stay at mid range or further and you're fine
@@SpartanElite43 thanks spartan
um spartan in gneisenau he said in the meet the gueisenau it is a hoonk of jonk now gneisenau looks like it has a buff like the bismark the acresy is good
It is still not that great but it is much better than it used to be
@@SpartanElite43 ya spartan can you do a lyon vid
Can you make a hood video please spartan, I recently got her!
I'm finally early !
Noice
Can you do a path to the Baltimore,
Say it with me.. A-KAT-SUKI
NOT AKAHSKI...SOUNDS LIKE A DAMN POLISH DELI
Great Video though Spartan and looking forward to part 3 on the Jersey
Akatski bc the "u" is mute
@@l.palacio9076 then why not call the Akizuki the Akizki?
Or the Furutaka the Frtaka? Hmmm...I do love the torps on my Ydachi!
See what I'm doing here? I believe you are incorrect.
@@JR.Dugger00 Lol the "u" isn't mute in every word or syllable. I don't know what it is the rule bc I don't speak Japanese, but I had enough contact with the language to know that the "u" in Akatsuki is mute
@@l.palacio9076 fair enough
mine goes 35 knots and turns faster than a cruiser
Well spartan you did say you’d take only 14k damage vs losing half of you health. So it seems you made a bad play instead of the carrier forcing you.
He has yet to find a true dedicated carrier hunter. Some of us lower tier cruisers and DDs relish the opportunity to chase a carrier all over the map but we’ve got one request. Since we shitcanned our shot at big kills at least let us have the carrier since we kept him out of the game
👌👍
It's getting harder to justify playing much these day. I know I'm a casual player but seems like every round more than half the ships are cruisers hiding behind mountains raining fire down on you. It's forcing people to just do the same tactic or die by a billion cuts before you can even shoot anyone.
Akatski??
Did this not have 11 inch guns?
No Gneisenau has 15 inch guns
@@SpartanElite43 sorry I meant in real life?
Hey SpartanElite43 i need help
I Just Bought Gneisenau Today and here's the problem: Everytime i win a battle with it i lose Credits
What is going on?
Service costs go up as you go up in tier so you need to do more damage or cap bases in order to increase you earnings
@@SpartanElite43 k thx BTW I have Scharnhorst :)
Mikasa review when
Lol never
That ship is so bad, it has worse dispertion than german bbs
@@SpartanElite43 please?
Why u called it akatski i believe is the akatsuki
It's the way I've heard Akatsuki pronounced on Naruto
The "u" is mute, he is pronouncing right
@@l.palacio9076 no it’s not. Akat-Sue-Ki. The U isn’t silent you don’t Akatski. It’s Akatsuki. Like sue. Akatsuki not Akatski.
@@IPeakedAt15 Well idk man, I don't speak Japanese. All I'm saying is based on what I hear watching anime, and in the Japanese dub you can't hear they saying the "u" in words like Akatsuki or Sasuke
Is it just me or has the gneisenau and Bismarck accuracy gone way down? My dispersion has been sh-t. Just horrible
I just love carriers cause they can spot the destroyer
You can spot me sure but when you do it’s cause I’m boring down on you and you’ve got 2 choices. Try to kill me with your planes which will protect other players, or run from me which still keeps you from attacking other players. Cause when I commit to carrier hunting I will find my prey
>CVs don’t belong in this game
They are however, and I think submarines are inevitable...
I like CVs although be it just for the looks, I loved old style RTS which had some kind of counterplay
Curious as to how submarines would work?
Carriers obviously belong in a game about naval warfare, that’s just dumb to say they don’t because they “force” you to do things that you can fuck you over, lol no shit it’s a “warfare” game
Gneisenau is my favorite tier 6 ship its just soooo fun yet so frustrating, apart from legendary ships its my biggest damage ship in one game, on Atlantic ! Yes the worst map for this ship !
And then Spartan do a video about it and i know i'm gonna cry because my baby is gonna get insulted 😂
I'm not going to try and spell the ship name it's good but nothing in my opinion will beat the pure destructive power of the 16 guns of the Lyon
@@TheNicStar88 Lyon is a close 2nd for me xD
I've played through every battleship like to tier 7 accept the Germans and I have to say, they're very hit and miss so far
First?
After I got Bismarck I never touch this ship again... Don't ask me why but I rly fucking hate this ship..
The option to turn Crossplay off should just be removed by wargaming, its a fkn pain in the arse.
Worst tier 6 BB imo :/
Carriers suck! I've pretty much stopped playing the game since they came out, it's no fun anymore
I’m out there for you brother. I hunt carriers and I’m not the only one. If you see a down tierd DD or cruiser see if he’s willing to hunt the carrier to keep them busy and out of the game. If you’ve got a carrier have him find the enemy carrier, then help the hunter get close to it. Then as a consolation prize let the hunter kill the AC, after all he kept that carrier out of the game. Would it kill you to at least let him have that one kill? I know if you ask me I’m asking for the carrier if you want me to chase them
Хреновый корабль
Bay far the worst German bb. My least favorite battleship in the entire game. The guns and AP suck, the secondaries aren’t even that great by German standards, and yeah you have torpedoes, but they’re borderline useless. Massive sigh of relief when I FINALLY unlocked the Bismarck. On top of all that this ship does not feel tanky. Took an 11k AP salvo from a Helena at 6 or so km.
It's a Gneisenau, yeah you missed the N.C. at 17km. You'd probably have completely missed it at 3km. Worst accuracy in the game and full accuracy builds only seem to make it worse.
1st off I HATE CV'S 2ND that realy need to give us who hate them the choice to play with or without them like the language thing
I don't find potato play to be funny at all...
The worst battleship in " the game"
Not even a little bit…Courbet is by far the worst, Champagne is only slightly behind that. Just because it requires you to play differently and can’t snipe from Mars doesn’t make it a bad ship.
You are a beast at this game. As a new guy it is amazing your knowledge
Glad you enjoy. I try to share my limited knowledge