Can You Solve 3 Positions? - Chess Quiz 13
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Varying difficulty is a good compromise. One other suggestion to keep us wondering a little bit, don't necessarily make the easy puzzle the first one every time. Sometimes if I don't know that the puzzle is simple and I see the easy solution right away it gets me looking for why it's wrong and I think that's healthy. So switch up the order of which ones are the more complicated ones to keep us on our toes.
I love how you tweaked the puzzle video format. Difficulty, length (3 puzzles), solution reveal and analysis is perfect for me now.
I've got every move of every quiz right since it says "What move would you play?" not "What move should you play?" 😀
Ha ha ha
All three, immediately saw the Bishop move to win the exchange but luckily saw the Knight fork at the end of the line in time to change my answer. ;)
I said king to g2, and I feel dumb, I literally wanted my rook on h3, and thought. “Me smart, me play king move, me no get mate” but I just completely missed that it’s an entirely free rook because there’s a rook behind it. I never even saw Bf5, I just thought it hung my bishop, it did but I definitely didn’t see that far in the line
It was actually the only I got wrong so I’m pretty happy, of course if I actually got to that position in a game I’d never even consider throwing away me Queen for a mate threat
@@TgPepper fr haha
I saw this comment because it's at the top and part of the screen before watching the whole video so yeap, puzzle ruined
@@FiveN9ne Sometimes you can use the power of thinking of random stuff and forgetting what you read.
Nelson sorry but I think you made a really poor analysis of the second puzzle: after Qf6 Qf2 Kh1 the critical line is certainly Bd4! interfering with the QB battery, a key detail is that Black's queen covers h4 so you don't have this Rh8 Qh4 Qh7 trick. Initially I thought you have to male a draw with Bh7-g6 et cetera, but then I found Qg5! and you're winning because you are threatening the same trick with Rh8 but this time you have the h5 square for the queen (that's why you can sacrifice the DSB). Without mentioning this forced variation, that works in the very same way if you throw a Bh7 at the beginning, you have to make a draw.
In the third puzzle I would also add that Ree3 is also very stong because now Bf5 is a threat as there's no knight fork at the end
Crazy lines, wow!
You are correct, sir. I totally forgot to cover the Bd4 lines and then just didn't have time to go back later and add it. Nice catch 👍
Nice find!
Your a mind reader! I spent like 10 minutes pondering this exact line, and getting stuck as the black queen covered h4. I never found Qg5 tho.
I also found apparent refutation Bd4 and thought there is no forced mate so didn't find the correct follow up. You not only found Bd4 but also the forced mate
Position 2: Leave the bishop on h7 and sacrifice the queen. If xf6 then Bxf6#; if not then Qxg7#. If he blocks on d4, then proceed as you described.
I think this is best no need to leave rook x bishop as an option
I like the different skill level positions that you have tried this week. I recommend continuing like this!
I find your videos fascinating! Thank you, so much!
Thanks Nelson, awesome puzzles! ❤
These are very interesting challenges, much strategy is revealed. You do a great job, thanks !
Ha! All three this time, proud moment : )
Same, when I saw the thumbnail I thought I screwed up big time lol
Congrats!
I got all three too and I was honestly thinking about saying Bf5+ but then my brain was like “There’s something about that move I just don’t like.”
@@diamondxmen same thinking process. First intention was to defend the piece but that queen battery looked so juicy un had to calculate
In the 2nd one I think the Bh7+ is better than the immediate queen sac (which I initialy chose) because it gives your opponent more chance to make a mistake, and gives you the fun of twisting the knife even more lol
I think that you missed an idea in position 2. I thought bishop h7 king h8 then queen takes f6.
I thought the same and it seems to me a very good move because you don't even sacrifice you queen for the mate
Seems wrong due to Bd4 breaking the bettery
@@kamalofdeka you can follow up with the same idea. Bf5+ kg8 and Rh8 followed by the checkmate on h7
I really love the 2nd one, and it showed me something I hand not considered before. You have a perpetual if you need it, but if you move a few of the pieces around, like eliminate white's knight, and place their queen on H4, and your rook on D1. The bishop check could cycle your bishop back to C2, and block the queen from a check.
I love these chess quizzes!!
I’m a 400 ranked player, and i felt so accomplished for the second position. I went Qxf6, then Bxf6, then Rh8. Wow i feel good
In position 2, it’s important to notice that Black dominates d4 & can use that as an interference square along the a1-h8 diagonal. And if Black leaves his Queen on f2, he stops Qh4+ in some lines.
Another way to mate on the 2nd puzzle that uses only forcing moves is Bh7, then black's king will move to H8, then queen takes F6. After black takes the queen with his pawn, then bishop takes F6.
Nelson, I think you've made a good compromise for the viewers. Personally, I'm in the 1600+ camp and enjoy these new kinds of trickier positions that force me to consider the opponent's counterplay and push me past the usual "find the immediate, forcing tactic".
Tried figuring out position 1 past the first move before seeing the answer, tell me what you guys think
1. Rg5 check (King to h8)
2. Qg4 (either Qg4 trade to be up material and winning after Bd4, Pawn d4, or black can play Rd8)
3. Following Rd8, Nd2 (Qe7 due to g2, f3, e4, e5 and e6 being guarded)
4. Bd5 (Pawn d5)
5. Rd5
From here I struggled to envision a good sequence of moves because of how vague the position was (and because my 600 elo brain specialises in the exciting moments over in-between plays), but the general idea I had was to reroute the knight on g1 up through f3, g5 (guarded by the rook and queen) and finally f7 to open the king to a possible ladder mate via Rh5, due to the king having no escape on the g file because of the Queen on g4 and being trapped by its own rook. I just can’t see if somewhere along that line, black could create some form of counterplay.
So yeah, what do you guys think?
Funny thing about Position #3 is I never even looked at Bf5+ because I knew Rh8 was a major threat I kept trying to find a defense for it and the only thing I could see was Re3 which I didn't like because it reduced to an ending where I was down the exchange. But it turned out It was best.
on first puzzle pining the bishop with the rook give at least a 1:1 trade but that's the second best move in position i'd say
Love the third puzzle. Usually these things ate about finding a way to gain a big advantage; it's good to have the reminder that stopping your opponent from getting a big advantage can be just as important.
(Also, proud to say that I got it right.)
(7:28) - Bh7 : As you say, NxB is bad... So...
... Kh8, QxN, g7xQ, Bxf6#
or
... Kh8, QxN, Qxf2+, Kh1, QxB, Bf6+, g7xR, Qxh6+, Kg8, Qh7#
or
... Kh8, QxN, Qxf2+, Kh1, QxB, Bf6/e5+, Kg8, Rh8+, KxR, Qh4+, Kg8, Qh7#
or (as someone points out below)
... Kh8, QxN, Qxf2+, Kh1, Bd4, Bf6/e5+, Kg8, Qg5, any move (barring Q threat captures), Rh8+, KxR, Qh5+, Kg8, Qh7#
Bh7 is all 'forced' moves (mostly) resulting in checkmate.
Great idea to creat a patreon account.
I will definitely pledge a few bucks, since I learn the most from your videos.
Thank you for this week's puzzles and for explaining the solutions as clearly as you do.
Appreciate that!!
Can you also post the link to the current quiz so that we could check our past answers prior to the making of the video?
LOL I missed the second one cause I saw the queen sac after bishop check and was like yay I did it and never stopped to think that everything before the queen sac was pointless... Tunnel vision
I did the same and I think it counts still 😅
LOL I did the same , bh7+ and after qxf6 idk why I though it was better having the king on the same diagonal as all the attack xD when it s over both xD
You didn't miss the second one. Bh7+ followed by Qxf6 is the same, correct idea as just Qxf6. It just doesn't show when you only said Bh7+.
Awesome content as usual! I would just like to suggest adding a countdown timer of ~5 seconds before revealing the solution, so people have a visual indication of when to stop the video at the exact right moment.
Can you make a vid on identifying weaknesses. Your own and your opponents
My inability to see position 2's checkmate (I just went with Bh7+ with a draw offer since we're down a piece and just hoping he blunders by capturing) helped in position 3 because I also couldn't see a way to make Bf5+ work (although in my case I couldn't beat Kf7 after the pawn recaptures) and I saw Rh8 as the biggest threat.
Bh7+ works. After KH8 QxF6. If queen captured BxF6 is mate. If any other move Bf5 discovered check then KG8 then RH8+ then KxH8 then QH4+ followed by QH7 mate.
So when I calculated bishop h7+ I knew the king had to move but I wanted to then play queen takes knight immediately and if he tried to check and take the bishop then I had the ability to then move the bishop back with check, can’t take the rook because the pawn would be pinned by the queen, so king back to g8, then the rook sac on h8, then queen h4 check, king back, then queen h7#
for the 2nd one on the rook takes g6 idea after queen takes f2 check king h1 cant we go bishop d4?
Last one got me!
Solved all 3 im happy and getting better
6 puzzels in a row best move. 1000 Rated player Last to quizes I aced all question with correct answer. I saw the fork at the end . Mostly i just pretended I was playing a game and what move would I make. Instead of trying to figure out what is best move I just think what would I do if I had this position. If I did not blunder so many times Im sure I could easily be 1400. I only play 3 minute games so it is easy to get caught in forks pins and such. I have made it to 1260 once in 3 minute games. But usually im 1050 to 1150 range.
Completely missed here is the line 1) Qxf6, Qxf2+ 2) Kh1, Bd4! interrupting the battery with black's Q preventing white's Qh4+ after white's sacrifice of Rh8+.
Is this based on puzzle ratings or game ratings
Bf5 was such a cool looking move that I struggled to look at anything else!
I chose qc2 for the second one because if gxh6 then bxf6 and even if your down a rook there's and unstoppable mate and there's no counterplay for black also when bxf6 they go qf5 then they give away a bishop and a queen for a bishop and your just winning also if they play it instead of gxh6 then you take f6 with the bishop and then take the queen and bishop and just win
Sorry I miscalculated but I still think that qc2 is a good move
Yo I got it all right, that feels really good
I got the last 2 right, the first one I had no clue because I didn't know the rook could have check the king lol. but overall, I like these puzzles.
in pos 2 i thought abt qc2 then bh7 qxkh7 even tho it can be blocked thought it might work out
Wait, in position 2, after Qxf6, Qxf2, Kh1, couldn't black just play bishop to d4?
It's guarded by the pieces, interferes with your battery and stops mate.
2:29 Qb4 here. Both positions winning but mine better
I seen bishop h7, then you sacrifice the queen and if they take it's mate in one by taking the pawn with the bishop
In First you can do h4 i dunno why noone think about it not the best move but if bishop takes queen you take queen too
Ree3 also stops the fork so you can play bf5 as before and not risk losing your other rook
In position 2 isnt 1. Bh7+ Kh8 2. Qxf6 better? I mean its checkmate either way, but you can premove enitre thing cuz every move is forced. So for bullet 1sec left its the only way
“I meant for this first one to be easy.”
Me, who went bishop to e2: 🥴
How about for 1st puzzle - Qd4 force a trade, QxQ, Rg4, exQ, B escapes, Bd3 continue the attack with bishop and a rook pointing at King
yeah, right? First thing I saw was Qd4, and then if QxQ, give check with rook, then take back after the king moves? Is that not good. no one at all mentioned giving check with the Queen - is it just bad?
2/3 that last one i went for Bf5+ too and i knew it did not work, just could not see anything else
In the second position I was thinking Bh7+ ,Kh1, Bc2+, Gh6, Qf6 with the idea that my white bishop kind of guards my black bishop if black goes Qf2....Idk if it works.. but that was the thinking.
For the first one could you do knight to c3?
Unfortunately not, they can just take your knight for free and then your in the same position but your down a knight
How silly I am.
I thought... Qd2 (feel free to capture my rook) I will be later in Qh6 waiting for Ng5...
I do not use a real board so, I may be wrong where the pieces really are in two or three moves
That bishop pair was fully operational
What about Rh4 in the first position? Yes, you sudenly lose a pawn, but have an active rook bulling 2nd rank
Last position got me, i didnt see the knight fork
Position 3: How can white defend if after Bb4 black plays b6 then a5?
Out of curiosity but what if you did Rh4
i got all 3 right so proud of myself ;D 1700 player
im 800-900 and i saw the Rg5+
Just wanted to know how position 2 happen
10:42 if the king moves to F7 you dont even get the rook for free, is there a good reason for the king to take the pawn that im not seeing?
Edit: nevermind I see now the pawn moves to E6 and checks you again and then gets dangerously close to promoting
Foe the rook F6 after queen captures bishop couldn't white queen go G5(check) king moves to H8, queen F6(check) king to G7, Queen to F7 and wouldn't that be mate?
Correct me if I'm wrong l, there is no safety for black in that move
🔥🙏🏼
I like this vidoe
Move 2 in Position 3: REEEEEEEEEE
4:47 instead of rook take bishop takes
in the third one, how can this position even be reached without black losing its queen?...obviously the queen was attacked by the pawn in the last move cuz the rook was on g3 and pawn had to be on g4 beforehand so white had an opportunity to capture the queen...why did white not capture in the move before? there is no discovered check or anything like that possible in the prevoius move so that the queen gets to move in this move,there cant even be a series of checks that lets the queen be on h5 with another check on the king....did white blunder previous move and not capture white queen cuz that would be completely winning
In the first position, what about the desperado Rxh7? Neat little way to pin their queen, no?
your queen is still hanging - black takes whites rook, bishop pins the queen to king, black takes whites queen and white takes blacks queen.
You're down 4 points of material in this line I think
@@XtheminerproX The common mistake i'll do. I'll see tactics, forget to count material.
If you include a fairly easy one as you plan to, suggest not having it in the first position each time.
I legit would have played bf5+ and then resigned pissed off just a few moves later lmao
3/3 for the very first time. Damn.
For the first puzzle, what's wrong with rook to h4?
f5 probably
That's what I played. My idea was to retake the queen after Bxd1, but blacks queen is protected by a rook on e8 and you lose a rook for a bishop.
What’s wrong with Rook H7 check, then Bishop D3? In position 1?
Is checking the King and taking 3 points of material better than sacrificing a Rook and a Bishop for the opponents king?
You'll still lose your queen to the bishop.
My game has sunk into the garbage can lately after I got hit by a car and now have brain damage it’s hard for me to figure out any of this anymore. Well the second puzzle I got right
Man sorry to hear that!
i thought of rook h4 for the first puzzle
Tres
i missed the easy one and got the two harder ones how does that make sense lmfao
Got 3 out of 3 this week!!! I remember being quite pleased when submitting my response and figuring out that Ree3 is the only move in third position, and I'm even more pleased now after seeing how few ppl got that one.
I've been playing absolutely atrociously the past few days, so please, everyone, allow me to bask in the glory of having chosen wisely with Ree3 on Position #3.
That was the only move I found, im 1500 likewise I am playing terrible. At first I thought it was attacking the knight, saw the bishop move (thought it looked really dodgy personally) and ended up playing ree3.
I found it too but I was playing well yesterday so hopefully that continues, did not see the queen sack in position 2 though
Same haha, I've been playing terribly lately but went 3 for 3 on this episode.
Something wrong with Qd4 on positions 1?
It loses a queen...The pawn cannot capture because after queen takes queen the pawn is pinned.
@@Blake6602 I dont see the pawn pinned, but it does lose the rook still
@@Nutslap ah I saw the rook on e8 buts it's actually on f8, my bad.
Four
Missed them all. This is why I can't get above 1700 stably on Lichess.😔
Man at least gimme a sec to pause!!!
Position 3 comes after a declined Botez gambit. ☺
for the frist one i said rh4
Ffffffffff-, I _wanted_ to play Qxf6 in position 2, but then I saw that black can interrupt the attack with Bd4 (no, I didn't consider Qxb2, holy crap at that one) and couldn't see any way to break through after that. Didn't see the mate in three, was tunnel visioning there a bit. Still, Bh7+ is nice in that it immediately guarantees a perpetual AND buys you more time to think about a mating attack. It's a very practical move in that sense, I think, although you still need to come up with the winning plan after that.
I did, however, spot Ree3 in position 3.
EDIT: Wait, no... black queen is still on f2 and protects h4. White _can't_ do the mate in 3 as shown in the video, what the hell? How does white break through after 1. Qxf6 Qxf2+ 2. Kh1 Bd4, I can't see anything...
EDIT 2: Plugged it into Stockfish and it initially said (on low depth) that Bd4 is equal before INSTANTLY jumping to like +5 or +6 on higher depth. Apparently, the best move is simply to reply with Qg5 to try and go for the mate (with Qh5+ instead of Qh4+) and black's best response is... f5 to block the d3 bishop? This is a crazy position, damn.
Yeah I put it into stockfish too and Bd4 by black seems to just prevent mate and prolong the game. You are still winning but not mating yet at all. Seems that Nelson just overlooked that :)
i said pawn to f3, obviously i am garbage at chess
my chess engine says Bh7+ is better than quenn takes knight
All three puzzle were moderately easy. I understand people's frustration with hard puzzles, so I would suggest to make the first puzzle easy and the second one around 2100 rated puzzle and the last one 2700 rated. Because I feel like all three in this episode were at max 2100
Fifth!
Second
wait you wanted us to choose 3 moves??? wtf?? you should’ve said that in the beginning!! I was just choosing one move only! I thought you were reading 3 different moves based on the percentage of people who chose those moves
in that case my answers would’ve been better
Rg 5
Hah! frist 😆😆😆
Why did you keep wearing glasses?