Paula Fredriksen lectures on "Augustine and the Jews: A Christian Defense of Jews and Judaism"

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  • čas přidán 10. 09. 2015
  • Paula Fredriksen, William Goodwin Aurelio Chair Emerita of the Appreciation of Scripture at Boston University, talks about her recent book, which traces the origins and growth of Christian anti-Judaism, while exploring Augustine's singular response and challenge to it.
    The lecture at Holy Cross was held November 16, 2011 in partnership with the Worcester JCC.

Komentáře • 35

  • @Vurbanowicz
    @Vurbanowicz Před 9 měsíci +2

    That meshes with what I learned 1960-61 in required scripture classes at a Catholic college: the Jews were more monolatrous than monotheistic. They understood the commandment against "strange gods" to mean not "These gods don't exist" but only "Don't worship them!"

  • @tbillyjoeroth
    @tbillyjoeroth Před 7 lety +5

    Such a polished lecturer! She knows the material, unlike so many who stand there and read off the page for the whole lecture.

  • @festeringboils3205
    @festeringboils3205 Před rokem +1

    Incredible insight

  • @dynamic9016
    @dynamic9016 Před 2 lety +1

    Brilliant Scholar.. Really enjoyed this video.

  • @dorianphilotheates3769
    @dorianphilotheates3769 Před 5 lety +2

    52:55- “ How do you feel about ancient monotheists being polytheists?” - I feel very comfortable.

  • @lowend5566
    @lowend5566 Před 3 lety +1

    Soccer mom says "Take a cookie" then dives into polytheism on one leg. You don't see someone like this every day. Wow.

  • @magister5691
    @magister5691 Před 2 lety

    I wish the questioners had a microphone

  • @dorianphilotheates3769
    @dorianphilotheates3769 Před 5 lety +2

    ..the “plus” and the “minus” centuries...

  • @corlisdeesministries4860
    @corlisdeesministries4860 Před 2 měsíci

  • @dorianphilotheates3769
    @dorianphilotheates3769 Před 5 lety +1

    What?! A greedy bishop defrauding a private citizen of his property, and being threatened with legal action?! I’m shocked. My universe is shattered - it’s a good thing we don’t have people like that in the Greek Orthodox Church...our hierarchs are always so morally upright, so altruistic, so completely disinterested in material things, so full of charity and love for the poor - especially here in Toronto.

  • @secallen
    @secallen Před 11 měsíci

    Just because you make a donation to some temple does not mean you believe in the gods of that culture. You can be doing it for very earthly reasons of your own.

  • @dorianphilotheates3769
    @dorianphilotheates3769 Před 5 lety +1

    “...nemo ibi audit vocantem, ‘venite ad me qui laboratis’...” Augustine, Confessiones.

  • @gab31282
    @gab31282 Před rokem

    Interesting...she is confirming what I was beginning to conclude, that Yaweh is a demiurge, and is not the Father of Jesus. The Father is much higher and supreme light, and all good.

  • @jeromeotf6958
    @jeromeotf6958 Před rokem

    When talking Augustine we mean the saint?
    The one that was a sex & or love addict yes?

    • @Vurbanowicz
      @Vurbanowicz Před 9 měsíci +2

      Yep, he pulled himself together and left the woman he loved for a 'higher good.' Dr. Fredriksen explains celibacy in the ancient world. See Stephen Greenblatt, "St. Augustine and the Invention of Sex," published in the print edition of the June 19, 2017, issue of The New Yorker, with the headline “The Invention of Sex.”

  • @OrichalcumHammer
    @OrichalcumHammer Před 3 měsíci

    16:57 Gods of Rome defeated the gods of Judea.

  • @dorianphilotheates3769
    @dorianphilotheates3769 Před 5 lety +2

    Excellent lecture, beautifully delivered. But Augustine was about as anti-Jewish as they came. Christianity is a Roman imperial religion (i.e. Hellenistic with a thin veneer of Judaic messianism). Augustine’s brand of Christianity was thoroughly Roman - which is to say, implicitly anti-Jewish. Any effort to revise the original narrative is merely a rhetorical exercise.

    • @JQUICK21
      @JQUICK21 Před 5 lety +1

      Wow! We get to hear from a person who WAS THERE, and knows those people from hundreds of years ago! LMAO

    • @dorianphilotheates3769
      @dorianphilotheates3769 Před 5 lety +1

      UNFINISHED FOOTSTEPS - One doesn’t necessarily have to be a fish 🐠 to be a marine biologist...

    • @islandtat3414
      @islandtat3414 Před 3 lety +3

      Wrong. Christianity is Judaism completed. It’s a Jewish religion-a messiah was prophesied and fulfilled in Yeshua. All the disciples who spread the word to gentiles were Jewish. Christianity is the completions of Judaism therefore, it is Judaism.

    • @sadvenom7826
      @sadvenom7826 Před rokem +1

      Yet you do not practice the law which God said was eternal psalm 119:89. You believe the holy spirit is superior to the father and son, because you can't blaspheme against it, while you can to the other gods, Matt 12:32. You believe the son was subordinate to the father john 14:28. You believe in the atonement of sins through human sacrifice. You believe another person can pay for your sins, when God said the contrary deuteronomy 24:16. You believe the messiah is God, when it never said that in the tanakh, in fact it says he will fear the lord, isaiah 11:3. So God fears himself? You believe a man was God when God said he wasn't a man numbers 23:19. Your false messiah fulfilled non of the messianic prophecies, especially failing in the most important ones like world peace isaiah 11:6, 2:4. He failed at returning the lords chosen people back to their lands permanently, amos 9:15. The temple wasn't rebuilt as stated in ezekiel chapters 40-48. He never sacrifed for his own sin ezekiel 45:22, because you believe he was sinless.

    • @dorianphilotheates3769
      @dorianphilotheates3769 Před rokem +1

      @@sadvenom7826 - There’s a good reason I don’t practice The Law of G-D (or believe in any of the other things you mention). I’m an atheist - worse kind, too: a Greek atheist.

  • @JQUICK21
    @JQUICK21 Před 5 lety

    The only thing you religious people AND bible worshippers can share or speak is your “opinions” based on other people’s opinions found in writings/books, etc......And many know that much ancient writing first started as word-of-mouth stories. And we all know what happens when stories, jokes and gossip is passed around in this way! Written down, these stories are copied and copied and copied some more, all before any translations are attempted. And we all know what happens with translations don’t we? Nothing I’ve stated here can be denied! Thankfully, despite what your favorite church has told you, God & Jesus & many other Masters have never gone silent! Why would they? It’s absurd to believe such a thing! Also, inspiration did not stop at some point. We have in fact art, music, movies, inventions and medical breakthroughs all inspired in our day & time. Of course. And of course that list includes writings and Oh yes, even books!

  • @beagleman123456789
    @beagleman123456789 Před 11 měsíci

    Sorry, but you can’t spin Augustine’s Jew Hatred.

  • @JoelElangovan
    @JoelElangovan Před 7 měsíci

    Calling yourself a liberal democrat should alone disqualify your opinion 😂

  • @beagleman123456789
    @beagleman123456789 Před 11 měsíci

    Augustine was a big Jew Hater ‘ 😡

    • @westonmickey3890
      @westonmickey3890 Před 5 měsíci

      Not true.. if you have read Augustines work, you would know that as time went on he had a fundamentally different understanding about the Jews as he progressed in his research and knowledge about the Catholic-Jewish relationship.

    • @westonmickey3890
      @westonmickey3890 Před 5 měsíci

      His understanding and opinion progressed over time.. he did not die hating Jews and fundamentally changed.. this academic scholar did an excellent job explaining and maybe you should have actually taken the time to watch this.