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  • @Tronicsfix
    @Tronicsfix  Před 3 lety +358

    Buy BW-100 Electronics Cleaner Here: amzn.to/3hviKDv
    I think it's time I put liquid metal in the Xbox Series X! Who wants to see that?

    • @momsbasement656
      @momsbasement656 Před 3 lety +11

      Very curious to see!

    • @AnImperfectSoul
      @AnImperfectSoul Před 3 lety +3

      @@DTW-bx2vy the die runs cooler? Love to see those benchmarks since if the exhaust of the XSX is cooler than the exhaust of the PS5, that means the SX has worse thermal management and doesnt exhaust heat as well

    • @thatsitthatsit6835
      @thatsitthatsit6835 Před 3 lety +1

      I wanna see this Video

    • @danielhedley4626
      @danielhedley4626 Před 3 lety

      @ Tronics Fix can you tell me why a xbox one powers up stays on 2 minutes than turns off is there a way round this please pal ?

    • @Joel-zo6yo
      @Joel-zo6yo Před 3 lety +1

      Yes, I would really like to see this on the Xbox Series X as well!

  • @rpgquester
    @rpgquester Před 3 lety +6214

    The real miracle is that you managed to get 2 ps5s

    • @brazenloki8417
      @brazenloki8417 Před 3 lety +118

      That was my exact thought!

    • @favourites144
      @favourites144 Před 3 lety +209

      It’s not hard at all if you don’t mind paying $1,000 usd

    • @pomidortv797
      @pomidortv797 Před 3 lety +160

      @mmarkster nah thats nothing. I have entire warehouse of ps5

    • @DatboyCS
      @DatboyCS Před 3 lety +124

      @@pomidortv797 nah, that's nothing. I have an entire factory and production equipment for ps5

    • @benonyangore1536
      @benonyangore1536 Před 3 lety +46

      @@pomidortv797 lol r you one of the people who stole from the Amazon warehouse for ps5 stocks

  • @sdewey4152
    @sdewey4152 Před 3 lety +1322

    You've been fixing too many PS4s lol half the video you were calling the 5 a 4.
    Great content!

    • @GUnitSoldier4
      @GUnitSoldier4 Před 3 lety +22

      ah shi lol you beat me to it, i was like 'he said PS4 at 2:34' ..but you also heard it XD

    • @seanfarrell5223
      @seanfarrell5223 Před 3 lety

      Dammmit you beat me too lol

    • @arianadonis4099
      @arianadonis4099 Před 3 lety +1

      @@GUnitSoldier4 he said it again after that

    • @GUnitSoldier4
      @GUnitSoldier4 Před 3 lety +1

      @@arianadonis4099 Yeah could be, but I noticed it at 2:34 and wrote it right away while I was still watching the vid :P

    • @astroidyeti2169
      @astroidyeti2169 Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks for saying it I was about too then was like you know what everyone in the comments will so I figured I’ll in the words of the Beatles “ let it be”

  • @chrisdahfuh180
    @chrisdahfuh180 Před 3 lety +320

    Man your videos are great i remember when you showed how to fix the ps4. I bought a ps4 broken in purpose back in college when i didn't have a job since it was cheaper than a new ps4 and i managed to get it fixed with your video! So it's cool to see you working on the ps5 😅

  • @leisama4221
    @leisama4221 Před 3 lety +50

    2:33
    4:09
    He calls it a PS4 (Both times, It startled me for a second!).

    • @lexusstriker
      @lexusstriker Před 2 lety

      im technician of consoles and hardware and this ocurred to me too

  • @abendroid
    @abendroid Před 3 lety +415

    Love the sponsor that actually has to do with motherboard repair.

    • @TheyreStillOutThere
      @TheyreStillOutThere Před 3 lety +14

      CRC electronic cleaner at your local car parts store is the pretty much the same thing in pretty much the same size can for about $4. The sponsor product I’m sure works just as well, but is very overpriced for what it is at 25 bucks a can. That’s just craziness.

  • @uv8948
    @uv8948 Před 3 lety +31

    My anxiety going up while you open up that ps5 like its your lunchbox

  • @maybebutwhatever
    @maybebutwhatever Před 3 lety +33

    It's strange that ps5 even turn on with the fan not connected.

    • @azzaprime7257
      @azzaprime7257 Před 2 lety +3

      It shouldn't turn on. Thats a poor design choice by Sony. Should be safety measures in place.

    • @jarrettblakemore4676
      @jarrettblakemore4676 Před 2 lety

      @@azzaprime7257 lol I'm on pc calm down it's not that big of a deal

    • @azzaprime7257
      @azzaprime7257 Před 2 lety +1

      @@jarrettblakemore4676 Thats not the point lol

    • @chrischen6664
      @chrischen6664 Před 2 lety

      @@azzaprime7257 even a laptop would turn on without fan.
      they already got a security measure by shutting it off automatically

    • @azzaprime7257
      @azzaprime7257 Před 2 lety

      @@chrischen6664 Than Laptops also need to add a feature where the system wont turn on without a fan. Its a potential fire hazard. Why would they allow the system to turn on without one of the most important parts that keep the system cool off or not connected?

  • @juanpedrosuarez111
    @juanpedrosuarez111 Před 3 lety +227

    So you are the one who let rhyno escape so many times...

  • @TampaTec
    @TampaTec Před 3 lety +595

    Interesting comparison 👍

    • @hebinoplays8709
      @hebinoplays8709 Před 3 lety +6

      Scalper confirmed lmao

    • @Tronicsfix
      @Tronicsfix  Před 3 lety +14

      Thanks Paul!

    • @diagtula
      @diagtula Před 3 lety

      ​@@Tronicsfix watch some advertisement will pay comparison results well done

    • @one_up907
      @one_up907 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Tronicsfix did you allow both to cool for at least 2 hrs on your thermal tests? The one with Liquid metal did take longer to shut down so I assume it was hotter?

    • @one_up907
      @one_up907 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Tronicsfix oh and can you do this to Series X and do temps on APU and RAM with thermal nodes? I can't seem to find anyone that's doing it, only PS5's

  • @arenavisionTV
    @arenavisionTV Před 3 lety +26

    It's just amazing that you managed to get all of the different sizes of screws matched back into the appropriate holes

    • @Notpoop906
      @Notpoop906 Před 2 lety

      as he said, they are literally all the same size except one single screw.... he didn't have to note the locations down at all.

    • @unknown78662
      @unknown78662 Před dnem

      @@Notpoop906 they are not the same screw they have different shapes and sizes

  • @oskardv12
    @oskardv12 Před 2 lety

    IT'S VERY NICE OF YOU DOING THIS VIDEOS

  • @mufasaiam7794
    @mufasaiam7794 Před 3 lety +626

    This channel is like Linus Tech Tips but with less dropping

    • @Tronicsfix
      @Tronicsfix  Před 3 lety +82

      Lol!

    • @Luckysury333
      @Luckysury333 Před 3 lety +13

      @@Kaynos dude thats rude

    • @leonardocde123456
      @leonardocde123456 Před 3 lety +39

      this is more than ltt, this is for people ltt is just the same thing, here i learned to fix my own phone, on ltt you only know how to spend money

    • @Grandmaster-Kush
      @Grandmaster-Kush Před 3 lety +33

      @J TronicsFix is levelheaded no nonsense and the definition of informative, Linus tech tips to me seems more like its for entertainment

    • @connortapley3222
      @connortapley3222 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Luckysury333 how?

  • @elitetruegamer2432
    @elitetruegamer2432 Před 3 lety +23

    I always look forward to his teardowns, amazing videos. Big thanks to steve for a very detailed demonstration. When the times right I'm looking into one

  • @s1laz2425
    @s1laz2425 Před rokem +67

    You are one of the few youtubers that understands thermals, it's a breath of fresh air and keep up the good work! Most people would say the thermal paste works better because the air temp is cooler coming out the back of the PS5 🤦‍♂

    • @SonicBoone56
      @SonicBoone56 Před rokem +4

      Lmfao, that's sad

    • @trappz_io2620
      @trappz_io2620 Před 5 měsíci

      I was confused when the temp was lower with thermal paste. Why is that when ps5 was designed with Liquid Metal?

    • @s1laz2425
      @s1laz2425 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@trappz_io2620 ​ Thermal paste transfers heat less efficiently so the heatsink doesn't get as hot because more heat is staying in the GPU which is not good. With the liquid metal it transfers heat way better so more of the heat from the GPU goes to the heatsink where the fan can blow it out the back resulting in a higher temp than the thermal paste. I hope that helps I'm not the greatest at explaining things lol.

    • @User-00876gfdf
      @User-00876gfdf Před měsícem

      @@trappz_io2620 🤦‍♂️

  • @Debate_everything
    @Debate_everything Před 3 lety +32

    I think the real question of this experiment is how long will the thermal paste version run with the fan running. He is thermal paste a future repair that can be applied to the system and be sufficient even if it’s slightly less efficient

    • @UserUser-ww2nj
      @UserUser-ww2nj Před rokem +3

      I know its late to comment on this but does the fan noise really matter as most gamers will have headphones on or speakers turned way up and not be able to hear the fan .
      Liquid metal ?, no thanks

    • @zeriominus653
      @zeriominus653 Před rokem +2

      @@UserUser-ww2nj Fan noise isnt usually about the noise disturbance. it means it's working harder than usual and chances are it needs cleaned or something else is wrong

    • @UserUser-ww2nj
      @UserUser-ww2nj Před rokem

      @@zeriominus653 Maybe it depends on how hard the player is pushing the system. An inexperienced player will be slower and not put pressure on the system but someone who knows the game well will be faster and the system will be running faster

    • @enchantededition6879
      @enchantededition6879 Před 7 dny

      Another late comment. The perfect amount of thermal paste is a flattened out even layer carefully spread out . Not a dollop in the middle. This makes the entire result null and void in my book. Thermal paste is used to fill invisible surface impurities between processor and heat sink . Some people sand down the heat sink to such a ridiculous level of perfection that nothing is needed! as there are no impurities in the bond between heat sink and processor.
      However Liquid metal itself does have cooling properties on its own. Thermal paste doesn’t. By removing the fan the liquid on its own would cool the processor. Thermal paste doesn’t do that it’s not how it works. If the fans were connected and thermal paste properly installed the system would work fine for both.

    • @enchantededition6879
      @enchantededition6879 Před 7 dny

      I think a test to see how long liquid metal works without a heat sink altogether would also be interesting to see.

  • @mullinsjm1
    @mullinsjm1 Před 3 lety +223

    Interesting how the liquid metal dissipates the heat more efficiently. It will be interesting to see how well it works 2-3 years down the road.

    • @Tronicsfix
      @Tronicsfix  Před 3 lety +35

      Yes it will!

    • @AltCutTV
      @AltCutTV Před 3 lety +15

      @@Tronicsfix Is there typically a state change to the liquid material due to heat and/or age? There is reactive issues with other metals, so I suppose something must have been done about that at least. Some coating metal on the sink maybe?

    • @mjc0961
      @mjc0961 Před 3 lety +45

      That's one of the reasons I don't want a PS5 right away. Sony launch consoles always seem to have some form of widespread problem. Everyone else can test it, I'll pick one up in a few years when it and the games are cheaper if it works out okay.
      Others include the current lack of games, that it's not even ready yet because the system software doesn't even support expandable storage, the always on mic that's probably always recording and selling the recordings to third parties, a lack of "play anywhere" functionality like Xbox and PC have (yes Microsoft owns Windows, but Sony could partner with an existing store like Steam or make their own store/launcher), and annoyance at being expected to buy all new controllers and accessories because of greed.

    • @easy_gaming30
      @easy_gaming30 Před 3 lety +20

      @@Nighterlev Sony spent years in developing the use of liquid metal in their consoles. It's not like you are just randomly putting it in a build you've done. How do you know they haven't applied some kind of coating that stops the absorption of the liquid metal? I'm sorry Sony developer you are right

    • @jkrhu
      @jkrhu Před 3 lety +30

      @@AltCutTV It creates aloys with copper and aluminium, so the contact surface on the heatsink is plated with silver. It should perform much better over the years if there is no contamination or oxidation.

  • @TechDeviceRepair
    @TechDeviceRepair Před 3 lety +34

    Interesting Results! Thank you for the experiment!

    • @Tronicsfix
      @Tronicsfix  Před 3 lety +5

      Thank you for watching!

    • @herrakaarme
      @herrakaarme Před 3 lety +5

      Yeah. The behavior Steve described at the end suggests the fan control in the PS5 bios has been tweaked to work specifically with the characteristics of liquid metal. Thermal paste differs from that, so the cooling system works incorrectly by revving up and slowing down continuously. It's actually quite interesting how it's so particular about it. The hysteresis might be quite narrow. I guess all this makes sense in the big picture of manufacturing millions of consoles and thus needing to optimise everything.

    • @abirashrafifaz
      @abirashrafifaz Před 3 lety

      but rhino escaped :|

  • @computernerdinside
    @computernerdinside Před 3 lety +23

    I still wish we were able to see die temps, as exhaust air temps and fan sounds do give clues but can be hit/miss.

    • @cyphaborg6598
      @cyphaborg6598 Před rokem

      Die temps are more conclusive because as you can see even with thermalpaste and a fan it still runs just fine.

  • @virgildeklerk
    @virgildeklerk Před 3 lety +5

    Are you also going to test them both with a active fan and about two hours of gameplay? very curious what the temp difference will show.

  • @clapper2trapper481
    @clapper2trapper481 Před 3 lety +6

    No way I was wondering about this 😁 glad you did a video on it.

  • @johngale3452
    @johngale3452 Před 3 lety +127

    He got two I couldn’t even get one before Christmas :(

    • @coffeetarded
      @coffeetarded Před 3 lety +7

      he's a scalper

    • @audiobook5860
      @audiobook5860 Před 3 lety +17

      @@coffeetarded proof?

    • @rockl79
      @rockl79 Před 3 lety +2

      @@audiobook5860 he has none lol

    • @Tronicsfix
      @Tronicsfix  Před 3 lety +96

      @@coffeetarded No, I just happened to get two during pre orders. If I was a scalper I'd be trying to sell them to my CZcams audience for $1k

    • @whothou
      @whothou Před 3 lety +15

      @@coffeetarded are you 12?

  • @MrRubberduck645
    @MrRubberduck645 Před rokem +1

    I don't know if you need to hear this or not but you're doing a grate job. You have provided loads of entertainment for me and I'm 100% sure many others. Keep it up my dude. You are quite skilled at your craft.

  • @repairstudio4940
    @repairstudio4940 Před rokem

    This is most epic to demonstrate! Thanks man!

  • @Glitch-cp8wz
    @Glitch-cp8wz Před 3 lety +22

    Finally, the content I was waiting for!

    • @Tronicsfix
      @Tronicsfix  Před 3 lety +4

      Thanks for watching!

    • @Glitch-cp8wz
      @Glitch-cp8wz Před 3 lety +3

      @@Tronicsfix No actually I am a computer and repair geek and I LOVE this kind of content. Yours is one of the only best channels showing that!!
      (Keep the good work up !!👍)

  • @iXPilot
    @iXPilot Před 3 lety +73

    Weird that the consoles were not signaling about the disconnected cooler...

    • @LeBrulox
      @LeBrulox Před 3 lety +16

      The cooler doesn't send any information to any controller chip. The 3 wires it has are: VCC, GND and signal, the latter to control the speed of the fan. Most electronics work that way.

    • @iXPilot
      @iXPilot Před 3 lety

      ​@@LeBrulox I have zero knowledge in electronics. Isn't it possible to check how much power the cooler consumes by setting some sensor before the VCC wire? Or just check if the wires in the port are terminated correctly (back in the days, I was impressed that some of PC motherboards [the Realtek-based ones?] could tell if there's a mini-jack connected to audio output or not)?

    • @LeBrulox
      @LeBrulox Před 3 lety +10

      @@iXPilot Yes, it's possible and some chips have that capability but the reason why you don't see this implemented very often is because the temperature sensors inside the console already give you the indirect information regarding the state of the fan, i.e, if it is turned on or not, and consoles specifically have A LOT of those sensors so you can almost precisely point out which parts are overheating. Also, many chips come with temperature sensors so it's more convenient to work with them since the beginning

    • @redbeard19833
      @redbeard19833 Před 3 lety +14

      @@iXPilot Many cooling fans in industrial applications give feedback for their RPMs. You'll get a soft-fault that a fan has failed. It's not an expensive upgrade, but, when you're talking 5$ over 1,000,000+ units produced.....it adds up.

    • @growshack9067
      @growshack9067 Před 3 lety

      @@LeBrulox precisely

  • @SteddiFLo
    @SteddiFLo Před 3 lety +1

    Wow! Dope video my guy! Great insight with this video

  • @ysf_ar6984
    @ysf_ar6984 Před 3 lety +175

    4:08 yep my ps4 has liquid metal in it

    • @ysf_ar6984
      @ysf_ar6984 Před 3 lety +45

      @kurbsyde to make a small joke?????

    • @outerspaze6499
      @outerspaze6499 Před 3 lety +12

      @kurbsyde big 😠 mad

    • @woh2357
      @woh2357 Před 3 lety +4

      I wonder how the ps4 would perform with liquid metal.

    • @arthurwaring
      @arthurwaring Před 3 lety +7

      @kurbsyde "yOuR pOiNt iS?" A harmless joke that went over your obnoxious head

    • @Zahoodo
      @Zahoodo Před 3 lety

      @kurbsyde not gonna lie bro PS4 controllers are the easiest think to do any sort of mods or repairs a 4 year old with advise can do it

  • @mccringy7294
    @mccringy7294 Před 3 lety +35

    I’ve been waiting for this

  • @etiennevanharen3893
    @etiennevanharen3893 Před 3 lety +3

    Great video Steve. I wonder with most of these consoles standing vertical if leaking liquid metall will be happening over time. By the way how the bleep did you get your hands on 2 ps5’s?

    • @Tronicsfix
      @Tronicsfix  Před 3 lety +8

      No, their made for vertical or horizontal. I somehow ended up with two pre orders.

  • @ennesimo84
    @ennesimo84 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Hello and congratulations for your always interesting videos. If you want to continue with the liquid metal, do you have to replace it or add it or is it left alone forever? And if it changes, is it on the market?

  • @Christopher_T_Paul
    @Christopher_T_Paul Před 3 lety +12

    Kinda interesting. However the covers around the chips I would assume are there to protect the board against liquid metal leakage. These gaskets would be acting as an insulator and not needed for thermal paste.
    I assume you are using AS5 thermal paste, whilst not a bad one, it's not the greatest. Perhaps a premium paste in comparison with the gaskets off would be more like a real world test, especially as the price point of liquid metal is high.

  • @Notsoscarred
    @Notsoscarred Před 3 lety +94

    I have a ps5 brand new sitting in the box in a warehouse waiting for me to buy it

    • @mullinsjm1
      @mullinsjm1 Před 3 lety +4

      You too?!?

    • @jacobsebastien3910
      @jacobsebastien3910 Před 3 lety +3

      The Coil Wine is waiting to be discovered in your PS5 consoles Lol'

    • @mullinsjm1
      @mullinsjm1 Před 3 lety +2

      Maybe by the time I get one they'll have remedied that. That's why Im waiting and not getting one at launch. Last gen I did that with an xbox one and had a lot of issues.

    • @donegal2010able
      @donegal2010able Před 3 lety +3

      Mine hasn't been assembled yet 2022 maybe need to get a flat screen first

    • @thealien_ali3382
      @thealien_ali3382 Před 3 lety

      Same

  • @Technical_Gaming07
    @Technical_Gaming07 Před 3 lety +23

    Love how rhino just keeps escaping 😂

  • @leventozcan4595
    @leventozcan4595 Před 3 lety

    Excellent work, thanks for sharing it

  • @captaincrunch1707
    @captaincrunch1707 Před 3 lety +7

    Would be great for you to investigate PS5 coil whine and the noise difference in fan models between delta/Nidec etc. also if silicone thermal pads are better than the thermal puddy compound

  • @douglasfisher4068
    @douglasfisher4068 Před 3 lety +50

    Well Sony did say they worked on the liquid metal solution for two years, so I’m really interested as to what they did that’s different from traditional liquid metal

    • @xenon473
      @xenon473 Před 2 lety +8

      Probably working on the perfect volume of each metal to use for the liquid metal

    • @jasephase2k933
      @jasephase2k933 Před rokem +2

      Was working on liquid metal to bond to apu

    • @svd355
      @svd355 Před rokem +1

      Probably could've used PTM7950 instead for lower cost production. It has almost the same performance as LM in every way but non-conductive so extra shielding isn't necessary.

    • @mas7rreaper126
      @mas7rreaper126 Před rokem +3

      @@svd355 -The opinion of a single person vs a entire team who spent 2 years figuring out what to use and getting paid for it

    • @svd355
      @svd355 Před rokem +2

      @@mas7rreaper126 I mean, Lenovo has been using it for their latest Legion series, be it entry-level to high-end and it's been great.
      EDIT: Also the RTX 4090 FE uses PTM7950. Just because an idea coming from a single person doesn't mean it's a bad one to be considered.

  • @shadeliquid
    @shadeliquid Před 2 lety

    I always love to watch this type of videos 🙏

  • @IDNFAMILY
    @IDNFAMILY Před 2 měsíci

    Thanks, Very helpful comparison

  • @Ahov29
    @Ahov29 Před 3 lety +30

    You should compare the stock metal liquid vs the best one "conductonaut" have almost the double of thermal performance compared to the second best 40 vs 79 W/mK
    usually ps like xbox use the cheapset thermal compound, is like when you change the crappy ps4 metal pastel with like thermalright tf-x.. the difference is huge

    • @ArtisChronicles
      @ArtisChronicles Před 3 lety +2

      I'm actually curious about this myself. Something weird with the decisions made on the console that seem to cause it to overheat regardless.

    • @9SMTM6
      @9SMTM6 Před 3 lety

      I'd be careful about using another liquid metal solution. Sony knows what they're doing, but when you use just any metal you could get corrosion or it could damage the containment.

    • @alejandrotobienne584
      @alejandrotobienne584 Před 2 lety +1

      @@9SMTM6 all liquid metals have the same elements in them. It’s not like paste.

  • @bdssith888
    @bdssith888 Před 3 lety +211

    Me watching him ruin one when I can’t get even get one 👁 👄 👁

    • @matilija
      @matilija Před 3 lety +15

      lol, it's not ruined.

    • @matilija
      @matilija Před 3 lety +20

      @LisboKate It will run fine without the liquid metal, just a little louder as the fan will ramp up....the overheating was because the fan wasn't plugged in, not because it was thermal paste.

    • @wedoalittletrolling5056
      @wedoalittletrolling5056 Před 3 lety +1

      He probably returned the metal liquid in the other

    • @fatherelijah7088
      @fatherelijah7088 Před 3 lety

      Ikr

    • @themineingninja1045
      @themineingninja1045 Před 3 lety

      @Kyle Robinson if only xbox left the prices doubled for xbox live then it would’ve been a much better console lmao

  • @dudewecanfixitshorts
    @dudewecanfixitshorts Před 3 lety

    Great video brother. Thanks for the information

  • @DanielOliveiraViolao
    @DanielOliveiraViolao Před 6 měsíci

    Great tests. Thanks!

  • @guitarcare
    @guitarcare Před 3 lety +11

    i want to see how you re-applied the liquid metal paste 😀

  • @neiliewheeliebin
    @neiliewheeliebin Před 3 lety +155

    I'm more concerned about the longevity of liquid metal it often fails after a couple of years, it'll be interesting to see how it goes

    • @Smiley-zm1rp
      @Smiley-zm1rp Před 3 lety +6

      Hell if it does just repast it

    • @fudgeyman99
      @fudgeyman99 Před 3 lety +144

      @@Smiley-zm1rp the average consumer isn't expecting to have to do something like that with a product like this.

    • @Sm31LyxTr33s
      @Sm31LyxTr33s Před 3 lety +10

      Delidded 7700k still going strong after 4 years

    • @TheAtqthe30th
      @TheAtqthe30th Před 3 lety +26

      Generally liquid metal should last the lifetime of the console. Although it doesn't evaporate the problem is what kinds of metals are in contact with it (heatsink). Some metals it will fuse to and "dry out" which will require a new application of liquid metal.

    • @ArtisChronicles
      @ArtisChronicles Před 3 lety +18

      @@fudgeyman99 the average consumer also doesn't expect to replace thermal paste, yet thermal paste is usually a rock after 5-8 years. Halfway there after 2-3. That's the typical thermal paste lifetime on processors where it isn't making direct contact to the CPU die.

  • @dhoomchutad2111
    @dhoomchutad2111 Před 3 lety

    These kind of experiments is why i have subscribed u

  • @Thunderpuddle
    @Thunderpuddle Před rokem

    Always enjoy your videos man

  • @casualbachelor
    @casualbachelor Před 3 lety +14

    That is a nice looking *PS4* you got there Tronics..

    • @GenesGripChannel
      @GenesGripChannel Před 3 lety +2

      I'm really surprised to see you here, your videos are great and helped me a lot, thank you.

    • @casualbachelor
      @casualbachelor Před 3 lety +2

      @@GenesGripChannel All good buddy

    • @Dauntless-4ever9437
      @Dauntless-4ever9437 Před 2 lety

      I don't know if this counts but the PS5 can play PS4 games, so I guess technically it could be a PS4 and a PS5 when you think about it. it might be called a PS5 but it also plays PS4 games so in a way I would think that you could say it's part PS4 I just hope by the time I can get one they don't take backwards compatibility out for PS4 by the way like they did with the PS3 slim and the super slim for PS2 games the original PS3 could play PS2 games but the PS3 slim and super slim couldn't and the only way you could get them to play PS2 games is by moding them all three of them can play PS1 games though as far as I know just not all of them can play PS2 games I hope they don't do that to the PS5 where they take out PS4 backwards compatibility cuz I still have PS4 discs that I play on my PS4 and if I get a PS5 I'm going to get a disc version so I can play the PS4 games that I have and even still I'll keep my PS4 just in case they do take that backwards compatibility away

  • @sicparvismagna9586
    @sicparvismagna9586 Před 3 lety +5

    Your videos are very entertaining when compared to the videos which are meant to entertain us. 😁

  • @Heroduothecomedian
    @Heroduothecomedian Před rokem

    I'm new here and have been really enjoying your videos and learning new things along the way. I live your catch phrase and I'm sure I'm not he only person that would love there game console/consolez customized with your catch phrase on it lol

  • @kidwajagstang
    @kidwajagstang Před 3 lety +5

    Just noticed the correction on screen saying 126 degrees because I was about to say “how the **** did it get so cold AND so hot!?!”

  • @Furnimus93
    @Furnimus93 Před 3 lety +5

    Great content! I love these types of comparisons especially when done as sleek and informative as you manage to make them!

  • @haschid
    @haschid Před 3 lety +21

    What thermal paste was used? Some thermal compounds require a good amount of hours before achieving maximum performance.

    • @AdX-nj3ti
      @AdX-nj3ti Před 3 lety +15

      wouldnt make much of a difference as LM will still beat it

    • @fiddlebaton4818
      @fiddlebaton4818 Před 3 lety +1

      @@AdX-nj3ti LM would beat it for sure, but I don't think PS5 would overheat with high end thermal paste. (like Thermal Grizzly or MX-4 for exemple) Would be nice to know what he was using indeed.

    • @thatslegit
      @thatslegit Před 3 lety +1

      @@fiddlebaton4818 i saw thermal grizzly wrappings in the vid

    • @fiddlebaton4818
      @fiddlebaton4818 Před 3 lety

      @@thatslegit I thought it was the conductonaut. Well this is disappointing then...

  • @brandoneverett3418
    @brandoneverett3418 Před rokem +1

    Came across this while looking up other things, and can't help but wonder if solder wick would have worked better for liquid metal removal vs a syringe.

  • @linuxares
    @linuxares Před 3 lety +1

    I know this is a older video now. But what happens if you remove the OEM liquid metal and put on some brand name instead? Will it make a difference?

  • @battheman777
    @battheman777 Před rokem +4

    It would have been good to test the thermal paste PS5 with the liquid metal as well either before or after the thermal paste testing

  • @AaronKnouse
    @AaronKnouse Před 3 lety +3

    🙏 as always buddy wonderful creating

  • @mikehotiz8506
    @mikehotiz8506 Před 3 lety

    I see the way they make the fan air flow internally and in a way the air pass through the heat sink but the power box is on the pathway of the hot air flow. I think some exhaust vents need to be added by both side of the plastic case after hot air pass thru the heat sink then straight down/out.

  • @MrMafioza1995
    @MrMafioza1995 Před 2 lety +1

    BW-100 even works on Downhill bike fork suspension internals that are full of old oil residue when stripped and ready for service

  • @CrossedCoder
    @CrossedCoder Před 3 lety +5

    Thanks for making this video. These are exactly the kind of questions I ask myself as well

    • @Tronicsfix
      @Tronicsfix  Před 3 lety +1

      You're welcome! Thanks for watching!

  • @sniperyaz
    @sniperyaz Před rokem +4

    My question is how long before it dry the liquid metal without any leakage? I think there is a pros and cons between the two

    • @g33k_Tech
      @g33k_Tech Před rokem

      yeah im worried about that because my ps5 always on vertical position

  • @Ishanzeus
    @Ishanzeus Před 3 lety

    Thanks for the informative vid! 👍

  • @Cyrus_Shokan
    @Cyrus_Shokan Před rokem

    Excellent video. 👍

  • @JayzBeerz
    @JayzBeerz Před 3 lety +4

    It's good to know you can take it apart to remove dust build up without separating the APU with the heatsink. Thanks bro.

    • @lordalbertfondlebottomxiii5249
      @lordalbertfondlebottomxiii5249 Před 3 lety +2

      Yeah this is honestly the best thing. Having to reapply paste on the ps4 every time you wanted to clean it out entirely was a huge hassle.

    • @JayzBeerz
      @JayzBeerz Před 3 lety +1

      @@lordalbertfondlebottomxiii5249 yep and that liquid metal takes time to apply it correctly. sony did a great job in protecting other parts from the liquid metal.

    • @evilformerlys4704
      @evilformerlys4704 Před 3 lety

      Wait what? In the teardown from a couple of months ago they showed everything, you guys new to the internet?

  • @laureldaigneault4030
    @laureldaigneault4030 Před 3 lety +205

    Sony: spend years developing liquid metal thermal transfer
    TronicsFix: lets put the old stuff back in!

    • @khalidacosta7133
      @khalidacosta7133 Před 3 lety +37

      They didn't, liquid metal was in use in the PC sphere for ages

    • @themercifulguard3971
      @themercifulguard3971 Před 3 lety +8

      @@khalidacosta7133 Yeah but usually for more veteran overclockers. Most of the PC users use conventional thermal pastes cuz it's already enough for everyday gaming and use and small overclocking.

    • @khalidacosta7133
      @khalidacosta7133 Před 3 lety +24

      @@themercifulguard3971 Yep, that's my point. Most PC's don't have it because it's just horrible to work with and unnecessary. I can see a fair few failures due to it in 3-4 years time when the plastic hardens

    • @learningchannel3850
      @learningchannel3850 Před 3 lety

      @@khalidacosta7133 what plastic are you talking about?

    • @khalidacosta7133
      @khalidacosta7133 Před 3 lety +16

      @@learningchannel3850 Liquid metal is conductive.. it's metal after all. So you have to surround everything that could short circuit with plastic.... the foam, the adhesive, the plastic sheet.... it's all going to degrade next to that heat.

  • @bespokeglasses
    @bespokeglasses Před 3 lety

    Amazing test!

  • @pritampoddar5213
    @pritampoddar5213 Před 3 lety

    Mind blowing
    Keep it up 💪👊

  • @c85ris34
    @c85ris34 Před 3 lety +8

    Must be nice to have 2 i cant even get my hands on one!!

  • @nathanm7101
    @nathanm7101 Před 3 lety +5

    Just wondering, did Sony send you the PS5's or did you have to purchase them yourself?

    • @Tronicsfix
      @Tronicsfix  Před 3 lety +38

      I had to buy them. They won't send me anything since I just take them apart!

    • @madhavts6269
      @madhavts6269 Před 3 lety

      Appo choich vangande

  • @user-so2wm5ox6g
    @user-so2wm5ox6g Před 2 lety +1

    thank you for the useful video

  • @penajuan46
    @penajuan46 Před 3 lety +2

    Have you tried using a graphite thermal pad in a game system? I wonder how well that would work, with the bonus of not having to worry about changing it out ever again.

    • @AntiHeadshot
      @AntiHeadshot Před 3 lety

      Pads are even worse than paste and pretty much only worth it if you would change cooler or CPU regularly.

  • @EagIEyes
    @EagIEyes Před rokem +7

    Tronics, have you heard the latest news? The liquid metal is leaking into the seal of the apu in the vertical position. I want to use it vertically, but the only solution out there is to turn it horizontal to prevent this. There's gotta be something we can do to use it vertically without worrying about it leaking. What can we do?

    • @dnalekaw4699
      @dnalekaw4699 Před rokem

      literally nopthing unless you open it up and rub vaseline everywhere or stop the force of gravity

    • @drdaddy777
      @drdaddy777 Před rokem +4

      Not buy into click bait articles based off a guy who runs a repair shop and only sees bad things. 30 million sold and it isn't some red ring of death level issue. I think you'll be fine man.

    • @slapchop133787
      @slapchop133787 Před rokem

      You have literally nothing at all to worry about, bro. I'm an IT Hardware Technician, and I performed a tear-down of mine two days ago (Been in Vertical position since April 2021 and played on a near daily basis). Nothing at all was wrong, APU seal was still holding strong with no issues whatsoever. Don't believe the hype, it's not a widespread problem.

    • @andrejpopovic52
      @andrejpopovic52 Před rokem

      Lots of pressure is applied to the apu and the liquid metal. It cannot seep out

  • @robertandruw7647
    @robertandruw7647 Před 3 lety +120

    So this explains why Sony decided to go with liquid metal instead. interesting.

    • @Until_It_Is_Done
      @Until_It_Is_Done Před 3 lety +39

      Yeah, if something goes wrong, the console will last an extra 3 mins. Impressive...😂

    • @Tronicsfix
      @Tronicsfix  Před 3 lety +46

      Yep, exactly

    • @untamedronin8339
      @untamedronin8339 Před 3 lety +96

      @@Until_It_Is_Done he completely disconnected the fan you donkey😂

    • @eliadbu
      @eliadbu Před 3 lety +43

      @@Until_It_Is_Done it's not about if something goes wrong it's more about improving the PS5 cooling by improving the efficiency of the medium between the cooling solution and the APU itself. by improving the the efficiency you can either allow the APU to be cooler at the same fan speed or allow the system to be quieter by reducing fan speed while the APU runs at the same temperature.

    • @BIGNOIDS
      @BIGNOIDS Před 3 lety +13

      @@eliadbu PS5 is already whisper quiet

  • @WillPlaysGames1993
    @WillPlaysGames1993 Před rokem

    glad you can take the motherboard/heat sync out together
    i was worried about that since i like taking my systems apart to clean the heat syncs every 6 months to a year (depending on how bad dust/pet hair gets to it
    i know theres vent holes you can use a vacuum to suck out dust/etc but i feel like those dont actually work that well

  • @garethlloyd1445
    @garethlloyd1445 Před 2 lety +2

    This is great. Have you done a video where you applied liquid thermal to a PS4. That would be very interesting to see if those noisy ps4 are quieter

  • @Mdaftz
    @Mdaftz Před 3 lety +19

    Curious how long the Series X would last using the same test with an unplugged fan... Probably a shorter amount of time because the cooling system is based on the heat sink having air moved against it perpendicularly.

    • @Notpoop906
      @Notpoop906 Před rokem +5

      Not at all. The thermal mass alone is over double that of the PS5. That one factor would keep it cooler for longer.

    • @Mdaftz
      @Mdaftz Před rokem +3

      @yt 1234 They don't run "hot" they dissipate more heat exhausting hot isn't a problem that's a design

  • @bboyalanleung123
    @bboyalanleung123 Před 3 lety +67

    8:42 Ahhhhh perfect

    • @danholli123
      @danholli123 Před 3 lety +8

      Too much ( ´ー`)

    • @matthewmcewen1
      @matthewmcewen1 Před 3 lety

      @@danholli123 no such thing as too much when it is of paramount importance that you cover the die under all circumstances. If even the tiniedt part is not covered, the transistors under that section will overheat. This is opposed to putting too much on, which results in a bit of a mess but totally normal thermals.

    • @danholli123
      @danholli123 Před 3 lety +9

      @@matthewmcewen1 but there is such a thing as too much as thermal paste is meant to be a filler of the gaps not a patty in a burger

    • @matthewmcewen1
      @matthewmcewen1 Před 3 lety +1

      @@danholli123 it's meant to be a guaranteed safety for your die. That comes first and foremost. Did you see how much liquid metal Sony deemed necessary?

    • @danholli123
      @danholli123 Před 3 lety +1

      @@matthewmcewen1 liquid metal is also a lot more conductive than thermal paste, which is why they used it. I saw a video where they replaced it with thermal paste and played a game for 30 minutes and it over heated

  • @user-ol9mi5ok6o
    @user-ol9mi5ok6o Před 2 lety

    Could you share what's the thermal paste you used for testing? Different thermal paste has a big difference.

  • @Lilyic_1
    @Lilyic_1 Před 3 lety +1

    @2:33 and 4:10 "ps4" lmao, I do it too! Lol, hard to believe my boyfriend got one a few days ago from Walmart and will arrive in time for Christmas. Love your vids, I learn a lot from them.

  • @Slashser
    @Slashser Před 3 lety +8

    5:14 Only real TronicsFix fans will appreciate this cameo

    • @FR4M3Sharma
      @FR4M3Sharma Před 3 lety +1

      ??

    • @Slashser
      @Slashser Před 3 lety +1

      @@FR4M3Sharma It's the card reader from a "milk" soaked switch he fixed before

  • @iddybox
    @iddybox Před 2 lety +6

    I gave my wife the perfect amount of thermal paste after watching this video.

    • @mateivideo3104
      @mateivideo3104 Před 2 lety +1

      :))))

    • @aiodensghost8645
      @aiodensghost8645 Před 2 lety +1

      Says someone with a Trojan logo for a face...

    • @iddybox
      @iddybox Před 2 lety +1

      @@aiodensghost8645 😆 good one. I guess the thermal paste stayed self
      Contained.

    • @aiodensghost8645
      @aiodensghost8645 Před 2 lety

      @@iddybox it pays to be observant... and it sure did

  • @jimmycakes12
    @jimmycakes12 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Used bw100 on my car usb port that was acting up. Fixed it perfectly

  • @mohmmad68m
    @mohmmad68m Před 2 lety

    Great work

  • @SuperRoverboy
    @SuperRoverboy Před 3 lety +4

    Not the first channel I thought would test this...... im impressed.

  • @crmy84
    @crmy84 Před 3 lety +29

    YESS...THAT THE PERFECT AMOUNT OF THERMAL PASTE!!

    • @imran2nv
      @imran2nv Před 3 lety +3

      Hahahaha he well overdid that.

    • @Michael18751
      @Michael18751 Před 3 lety

      @@imran2nv Better than underdoing it

    • @imran2nv
      @imran2nv Před 3 lety +1

      @@Michael18751 it would take a very small amount to do it correctly so to put on less then the required amount would be difficult. And even so, bare metal to metal contact with a extremely low amount of thermal paste would be better then overdoing it. No thermal paste would be the worst

    • @growshack9067
      @growshack9067 Před 3 lety +1

      Less is better than overdose of thermal pasting

    • @growshack9067
      @growshack9067 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Michael18751 opposite

  • @jcalphaomega_gaming2096

    Very informative tysm

  • @georgiamillis4218
    @georgiamillis4218 Před 2 lety +1

    Oh wow, I hadn't seen the PS5 heatsink! Mad

  • @rileymannion5301
    @rileymannion5301 Před 3 lety +8

    Seeing the inside of the ps5 is just infuriating, all those tiny little pieces increase manufacture time and reduce repairability, it would be probably 150 dollars cheaper if the design wasn't so inept

    • @Flip86x
      @Flip86x Před 5 měsíci

      How is it inept? They design the board first. Then design the shell and the rest of the other components around it. I'd like to see you try it. 😂

    • @rileymannion5301
      @rileymannion5301 Před 5 měsíci

      @Flip86x I'm just saying they over rely on flimsy plastic clips which means there's a finite amount of times you can open it before something breaks

  • @SilverWolfPL
    @SilverWolfPL Před 3 lety +3

    I preffer electronic cleaning tissues for removing liquid metal - it's much faster than cue tip and syringe, but You cannot reuse LM.

  • @AK-nv7wn
    @AK-nv7wn Před 3 lety +1

    I would be really really interested in measure the temperature of the xbox series s before and after change the thermal paste and after change it to liquid metal too. Also how loud it gets too. :)
    Nice video!

  • @eelmachete
    @eelmachete Před 3 lety

    To remove Liquid Metal you you put it in a Freezer or use a freezing spray so it solidifies and you could take it of as 1 piece? It shoudl be solid under -19 degrees celsius right?

  • @devilmikey00
    @devilmikey00 Před 3 lety +10

    I'm curious to see how the LM lasts long term. I've never used it personally in a PC but I've been told it needs to be replaced far more often then a good high quality thermal paste. Also curious if the stuff they are using to seal in the LM will hold up well enough long term that the LM doesn't start leaking out. LM obviously has it's advantages but it seems like a bit of a risk to shove it in a big commodity item like this.

    • @Notpoop906
      @Notpoop906 Před 2 lety

      lmfao who told you that???? liquid metal does not dry and NEVER needs replacing. It's metal bro. There is no water content... Thermal paste dries out. Whoever told you that you have to replace liquid metal was lying lol. Like for real. It literally does not dry or go bad.... Feel like I don't need to say this again but ITS METAL. There is nothing to dry out....

    • @gamerX-wk7ct
      @gamerX-wk7ct Před 2 lety +1

      that's because of cheap copper alot of times you will have a copper plated heatsink and thats where you will see liquid metal be absorbed into the heatsink or pitted anyway that's why some say it needs replaced . so always check the copper heatsink with a magnet if it is magnetic then it's not pure copper

  • @HazyJ28
    @HazyJ28 Před 3 lety +48

    I love the motif of trolling elitist with the thermal paste 🤣. Every damn time

  • @Nexus.Achiles
    @Nexus.Achiles Před 3 lety

    This was brilliant!!!

  • @philipcooper8297
    @philipcooper8297 Před 3 lety +2

    What kind of life expectancy can we expect from the liquid metal? I used thermal pastes ever since I could put a computer together, and good quality pastes are pretty much for life (of the device).

  • @mrasoom8491
    @mrasoom8491 Před 3 lety +4

    I can not wait for a video of you fixing 20 ps5 😅

  • @kushmull7307
    @kushmull7307 Před 3 lety +6

    This was actually realy interesting wow. I thought that liquid medal made very little difference but i guess not.

    • @Damaniel3
      @Damaniel3 Před 3 lety +1

      Liquid metal usually only gets you a couple degrees lower temps under load than the best thermal pastes do. They make more sense when you have a closed system and automated hardware to do the application (like Sony does), but they make far less sense for the average computer enthusiast when you consider the dangers of applying it and the way it interacts with heatsinks over time. If anything, I'm actually concerned how PS5s will perform a few years down the road as the heatsinks inevitably absorb small amounts of the liquid metal just from the contact. I don't know if we'll get Xbox 360 RROD-levels of failure, but I expect to see increasing numbers of failures over time.

    • @LoneWolf5841-
      @LoneWolf5841- Před 3 lety +2

      @@Damaniel3 it looked like the heat sink had something protecting it from direct contact if you look when he cleaned it up the heat sink wasn't a copper color so my guess is Sony put something on the heat sink where the liquid metal sits to prevent any reactions from taking place.

    • @LiveType
      @LiveType Před 3 lety

      @@LoneWolf5841- Nickle plating. Engineers know what they're doing 👍. It is concerning that Sony resorted to liquid metal as opposed to redesigning the console and heatsink though.

    • @jamolbonaparte6908
      @jamolbonaparte6908 Před 3 lety +1

      @@LiveType lol probably cost

  • @altersami9660
    @altersami9660 Před 3 lety

    I clicked on your video, watched an ad and like your video just because you didn't use a click-baity title, and even included the result it.
    I hope more people do that.

  •  Před 9 měsíci

    u are awesome bro thanks for compare , greetings from TURKEY.

  • @direxps3
    @direxps3 Před 3 lety +8

    And here I am still waiting to get my hands on just one for myself...