A super simple way to make a ceiling-mounted air cleaner for your workshop. So simple in fact I was able to make both of these in about 30 minutes (an hour if you count the glue drying time).
6 months ago, I wouldn't even be thinking about filtration, but now I work in kitchen factory, with MDF dust all over the place, despite industrial extraction system.
Interesting idea, thanks for sharing. I'm considering building one and I'm thinking: I should vacuum clean the bottom part of the filter very often right?
Not really, static cling does a good job of keeping all the dust in the filter. If you accidentally knock into it, it’ll shoot dust everywhere, so be careful of that. Honestly I never had a reason to clean them in my old shop because I would always just switch them out with my used house filter when it was time to replace that one. But on the rare occasions I forgot to do it, and didn’t switch it out for 6 months or so, I didn’t notice any dust falling out.
Does the box of the box fan say the CFM? I have a 300 500 and 2,000 CFM industrial air scrubbers and I'm curious if this would compare at all. Also, they sell reusable filters for these fans that can be washed Also a extra note after finishing the video: the super fine dust made by wood is apparently 3 microns (that's the number I always hear). Regular HVAC filter won't catch that you'd need HEPA. Best case is to pair this with dust extractor. But better than nothing ESPECIALLY for the money
Product description for the fan reads 1820 CFM, but I’m not sure I buy that, particularly with the resistance added by the filter. I had a friend who used the reusable filters and he found them to be pretty bad at collecting fine dust, so he’s back to a regular air filter. I also have a dedicated dust collector on the table saw and one at the belt sander, both with HEPA filters. I agree that HEPA is ideal. I might eventually bite the bullet and buy a HEPA 20x20. But I’m cheap. 😂
@@NotThatMattNagy 1,820 is impossible, they might have put the cubic feet per hour to make the number look bigger. I would expect a box fan to be more like 30 CFM. And if you divide 1,820 by that it's almost exactly 30. Does it say cfm or cfh?
@@NotThatMattNagy interesting, i bet they are counting all of the air effected in the room and not just the stuff going through. I know for sure because my 2,000 cfm air scrubber moves enough air to almost knock you over. It kinda makes me want to test it
@@liammcgarrigle 1820 CFM looks right because a good 120 mm PC case fan can usually do 50 CFM. The knocked-over feeling you get from the air scrubber must be due to the velocity because for similar amount of air moved, it's opening is way smaller than the fan used in this video hence the higher speed. Hope that makes sense
You really need to use a better filter. Using the cheapest filter just lets the really fine dust through and continues to blow it around your shop. And that's the nastiest stuff that your body has the toughest time expelling. Spend the extra $10. Your lungs will thank you.
Eh, MERV 6 is fine, and you can find those for about 5-6 bucks. Most wood dust is around 10-30 microns and MERV 6 is rated to get most 10 micron particles. I have never noticed dust being blown around my shop in the 4 or so years I’ve used this system with a MERV 6. But your point is a good one-the greater the MERV rating, the better the filter will capture smaller particles, so some may want to spend $20 to get a higher MERV filter. Honestly, if you look closely, you’ll see I’m using a MERV 10 on one of them, but that’s because it was left behind by the prior owner so it was free to me.
@@NotThatMattNagy Merv 6 only captures 35% of 10 micron. And wood dust can definitely get below 5 microns. With how much money we spend on shop equipment it's just weird to me what people skimp out on. P.S. The human eye can only see down to 25 microns. So you'll never even see the really small stuff. That's part of why it's so car.
@@regibson23 MERV 6 captures at least 35% of 10mic, and up to 50%. There’s also some debate about how much sub 10mic particles are created during woodworking, and how much of them it takes to cause damage. Keep in mind An industrial air purification system still is not going to remove all fine dust from the air. So it’s a cost/benefit analysis. I should note that I have a HEPA shop vac hooked up to the table saw and the sander, and I also use a mask.
This is craftsmanship!
Shocking.
@@NotThatMattNagy shockingly high quality Virginia craftsmanship
6 months ago, I wouldn't even be thinking about filtration, but now I work in kitchen factory, with MDF dust all over the place, despite industrial extraction system.
MDF is very, very bad stuff to be working around all day, even with filtration. Be safe out there
I know, that's why I wear mask too. I seem to be only worker in building that does.
Always enjoy the videos. New shop looks good. Keep it up. 🎃
Thanks dude!
Interesting idea, thanks for sharing. I'm considering building one and I'm thinking: I should vacuum clean the bottom part of the filter very often right?
Not really, static cling does a good job of keeping all the dust in the filter. If you accidentally knock into it, it’ll shoot dust everywhere, so be careful of that. Honestly I never had a reason to clean them in my old shop because I would always just switch them out with my used house filter when it was time to replace that one. But on the rare occasions I forgot to do it, and didn’t switch it out for 6 months or so, I didn’t notice any dust falling out.
@@NotThatMattNagy Thanks for the feedback. Few bucks and almost maintenance free, I'll build it.
Does the box of the box fan say the CFM? I have a 300 500 and 2,000 CFM industrial air scrubbers and I'm curious if this would compare at all.
Also, they sell reusable filters for these fans that can be washed
Also a extra note after finishing the video: the super fine dust made by wood is apparently 3 microns (that's the number I always hear). Regular HVAC filter won't catch that you'd need HEPA. Best case is to pair this with dust extractor. But better than nothing ESPECIALLY for the money
Product description for the fan reads 1820 CFM, but I’m not sure I buy that, particularly with the resistance added by the filter. I had a friend who used the reusable filters and he found them to be pretty bad at collecting fine dust, so he’s back to a regular air filter.
I also have a dedicated dust collector on the table saw and one at the belt sander, both with HEPA filters.
I agree that HEPA is ideal. I might eventually bite the bullet and buy a HEPA 20x20. But I’m cheap. 😂
@@NotThatMattNagy 1,820 is impossible, they might have put the cubic feet per hour to make the number look bigger. I would expect a box fan to be more like 30 CFM.
And if you divide 1,820 by that it's almost exactly 30. Does it say cfm or cfh?
@@liammcgarrigle from product description on Home Depot’s website:
“Circulates up to 1820 CFM for ample cooling power”
@@NotThatMattNagy interesting, i bet they are counting all of the air effected in the room and not just the stuff going through. I know for sure because my 2,000 cfm air scrubber moves enough air to almost knock you over.
It kinda makes me want to test it
@@liammcgarrigle 1820 CFM looks right because a good 120 mm PC case fan can usually do 50 CFM. The knocked-over feeling you get from the air scrubber must be due to the velocity because for similar amount of air moved, it's opening is way smaller than the fan used in this video hence the higher speed. Hope that makes sense
any link on where to buy the fan?
I bought mine at wal mart.
You really need to use a better filter. Using the cheapest filter just lets the really fine dust through and continues to blow it around your shop. And that's the nastiest stuff that your body has the toughest time expelling.
Spend the extra $10. Your lungs will thank you.
Eh, MERV 6 is fine, and you can find those for about 5-6 bucks. Most wood dust is around 10-30 microns and MERV 6 is rated to get most 10 micron particles. I have never noticed dust being blown around my shop in the 4 or so years I’ve used this system with a MERV 6.
But your point is a good one-the greater the MERV rating, the better the filter will capture smaller particles, so some may want to spend $20 to get a higher MERV filter. Honestly, if you look closely, you’ll see I’m using a MERV 10 on one of them, but that’s because it was left behind by the prior owner so it was free to me.
@@NotThatMattNagy Merv 6 only captures 35% of 10 micron.
And wood dust can definitely get below 5 microns.
With how much money we spend on shop equipment it's just weird to me what people skimp out on.
P.S. The human eye can only see down to 25 microns. So you'll never even see the really small stuff. That's part of why it's so car.
@@regibson23 MERV 6 captures at least 35% of 10mic, and up to 50%. There’s also some debate about how much sub 10mic particles are created during woodworking, and how much of them it takes to cause damage. Keep in mind An industrial air purification system still is not going to remove all fine dust from the air. So it’s a cost/benefit analysis.
I should note that I have a HEPA shop vac hooked up to the table saw and the sander, and I also use a mask.