Teardown of two DVD/HDD recorders
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- čas přidán 31. 07. 2021
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10:07 Some DVD recorders, like this one, had a firewire input so that you could copy your DV camcorder tapes to DVD on the fly. The front cover has the i-link logo on it.
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I think I am able to fix them, they are looking good.
My dad had one of those Samsung units for many many years before he finally let go of it once he bought a TV that didn't have component inputs. Granted, he only used it for recording but it served him well :)
I have that Pioneer 433 still in use today. Bought it back in 2005 and it hasn't skipped a beat since! Remote Controls are easy to come by. I got a second one for about £10 a couple of years ago on Ebay. The Pioneer has a great video encoder in it and you could record in any bitrate and resolution from 15Mbps 576i to 1Mbps VCD quality. I used to use it at 6Mbps (the sweet spot for MPEG2 SD video) which would give 90 minutes per DVD-R disc. Also very handy tp have a Firewire connector on it that meant you could record directly from MiniDV video camcorders, edit the footage on the HDD and output the final edit to DVD-R. It was certainly one of the best "video recorder" purchases I have made over the last 36 years in the business!
A friend of mine uses these Pioneer DVD/HDD recorders in his video transfer business. He records video using the special high quality recording mode, but then connects the HDD to a PC. Thanks to a special piece of software he is able to copy the video files over, so that any editing can then happen on the PC. As I mentioned in the video, the Pioneer recorder I had was in really bad condition. Not a big loss. I can get another one with remote control from the local classifieds ads for like 35€.
@@DrCassette Interesting. Do you know what software he uses to extract the video files from the hard drive?
The program is called IsoBuster. I tried it myself yesterday on the HDD I took out of this Pioneer recorder, and it was able to detect the recordings. Unfortunately you have to purchase a license to extract those video files.
@@DrCassette Okay, thanks.
Wow, ShowView still around in the mid-2000's? I only recall it as a feature in '90s VCRs!
I have a Pioneer DVD/HDD recorder that the remote is going cactus and you can't do any other thing but it has a usb port and supports USB keyboard for controls. Using it if for about a year and the recorder itself is going cactus and I still have it, sitting on the shelf sucking electricity just to display the time on its front display.
Interesting! Have you tried using a USB mouse?
Some remote controls are available on eBay, I found an early Sony LCD TV that someone threw out, it came with the original remote control and the TV worked but the remote control had issues. I looked around on eBay and found a brand new one from China that looked identical in every way except that it didn't have the Sony logo on it! The quality was exactly the same!
I did the same thing for a Sony DVD HDD recorder that I got for $5 which didn't have a remote control...
If there's a remote control for a TV which is as old as the one that I found, then there's a good chance that there might be one available for your one!
@@PeterMilanovski I have tried plugging both keyboard and mouse through USB hub because the recorder only have a single port in it and it does not work both. Haven't tried plugging the USB mouse alone, it might work.
Have tried searching on eBay for the remote and I saw something that looks like the original but does not have the logo and some keys are swapped it might work but the recorder have gone cactus. It freeze when you power it on and just displays power on and does not do anything, front keys does nothing, keyboard does nothing and no display on the TV and won't even power off unless you unplug the power cord.
@@SlinkyStoney that's a shame! The pioneer that I have is so good at editing that I prefer to use it over a computer even though I have to use a remote control...
@@PeterMilanovski yup, it does have a nice UI for easy editing and stuffs.
@@stefanegger thanks, will try that. But will it erase all the recorded videos or just the settings?
These devices are a good and often free source for spare hard drives. I have multiple 500GB Seagate Pipeline and Video hard drives that have been removed from decommissioned TiVo boxes from a cable TV provider, and some of them are operating in excess of 50K hours with no reallocated sectors. While the performance is not the best, they run extremely quietly with no need for active cooling.
I very rarely find cable boxes with HDD. The cable providers over here make sure they get their boxes sent back when the contract ends...
@@DrCassette It's the same over here, but some slip through the net or are forgotten about. While still technically the property of the provider, I doubt they will consider it worth their time to seek legal action or issue fines to people who have excess hardware. Especially since it's no longer in circulation, and will likely only be recycled anyway.
I have a Pioneer Dvd/Hdd recorder. And it was manufactured on january 2007. I think most of the components where manufactured in 2006. Mine was made in the UK.
I have a Panasonic dvd HDD & that's very good .
The three good DVD/HDD recorders I have are all made by Panasonic.
@@DrCassetteHD-DVD ??? DVD-RAM ???
beim Pioneer wärs spannend ob der Festplatten-ide-zu-flachband-adapter auch am DVD brenner passt und dort das gerät zu einem normalen pc laufwerk onvertiert^^
Stimmt... ich weiß gerade gar nicht, was aus den Teilen geworden ist, ich meine einige Adapter und Kabel aus Pioneer-DVD-Recordern hatte ich ja mal dir gegeben?
My Panasonic DVD recorder came with a Standard IDE connecter.
Pioneer Elite ???
Those Pioneer ones are nice, I still use one as DVD player. It’s a model from 2009 with support for USB keyboards. On most of these devices the harddrives are IDE, but the dvd drives tend to be custom mechanisms. Very interresting to see that the second model had an off the shelf computer dvd drive in it. I think the small ribbon cable connector might be a miniature IDE interface, like what they used for laptops. My father currently uses a Samsung HD recorder with only a harddrive in it, but it’s storage space is not enough to record more then 3 hours. I wonder how difficult it would be upgrade the HDD.
Also the older DVD players tended to have processors based on the now forgotten MIPS architecture. In the mid 2000’s it was still used until ARM became more common. Current DVD/Blue ray player SOC’s tend to be ARM based.
Apparently the HDD drive's are tied to the recorder...
I haven't tried to swap out the HDD for a larger capacity HDD to test it myself... I wonder if someone has found a way to do it? I have a pioneer and a Sony that would be much better if they had large capacity HDDs...
I just remembered I had the exact same model of Samsung at some point.
I was given a really nice massive Fujitsu P50XTA40ES plasma TV this weekend its all working as well has speakers to so surprised it all turned on great picture will defo have a video in a few days.
I recently saw a giant Hitachi plasma TV in the e-waste. It would have been interesting, just to preserve this impressive old technology. But that TV was too big to get into the car without risking to break it.
@@DrCassette yes the tv I have is 45kg lol
Are you quite sure the dvd recorders don't support DVD RAM? Nearly _all_ computer DVD recorders I know support it... And my Panasonic HD/DVD Recorder also does support it (i.e. both the drive and the firmware support it, and I have successfully used it). It can even use the type of DVD RAM Discs that came in their own caddies. Fortunately,, it also does support using the bare discs. I would actually have _loved_ an HD/DVD recorder such as mine but with a digital tuner, as that would have made life a lot easier when it comes to transferring recordings to a computer. Also, analogue TV in the Netherlands is completely dead, including analogue cable service, so any device without a digital tuner is virtually useless.
Wow, what's impressive about what you say is that you do have DVD RAM media (even the caddy mounted type!) in this day and age to try that functionality.
@@BilisNegra That be as it may, DVD RAM never got the credit it deserved. The caddies absolutely sucked from day one, but at least DVD RAM allowed for features which we plainly did not get ever since, such as being able to remove part of a recording without having to erase the entire disc, and that’s not to mention the editing functions. Even though the tech may now be outdated, which I’m definitely not going to deny, doesn’t mean that it wasn’t any good in the first place. And, as outdated as it may be, we still don’t have a convenient new technology to replace it. The same is true for audio. I’m not saying you _can't_ record audio or video, but it is definitely more involved than just pressing a single button… Even when using a computer, simply recording “what you hear”, isn’t as easy as it used to be. You can blame copyright lobbyists for that…
Neither the Samsung nor the Pioneer support DVD-RAM. If they did, they surely would advertise it on the front, and I have looked up the specifications of the Pioneer to make sure. I have three Panasonic DVD/HDD recorders that support all types of DVDs, including DVD-RAM. These recorders are still quite useful for digitizing analog video.
@@DrCassette Indeed they are. In fact, that's the only reason I’m keeping on to mine…
hi dr my mate allways coming over with things like this all the time he works for a house place they find homes for all the goods
the HD'S errors on them all ways 160gb is very small i use a tiger cd i know they are video old going over to new SDI tec soon alot better i was
told
i do have alot of betacam decks alot of them 50 plus all working i have the space going in to the trans video game some time
great video man
i was able to take the videos from the hdd, they are not encrypted on mine, the hdd just had a different filesystem, you can use testdisk to recover the files and then convert to a newer format (Mpeg 2 to h265/h264), even the deleted videos showed up since i formatted it multiple times but they are not full obviously
Can you not get one of those programable remote controls? I would think they would be available over where you are.
I have never seen a programmable remote control that featured all the special buttons found on a DVD/HDD recorder remote...
@@DrCassette Never thought about the extra functions needed.
*THANKS!* Had not known, thought of these different Reasons\ Outlook as to why and not. I've yet to understand electronics.
I hate to throw away anything relating to electronics, no skill in fixing, no one i know to give to.
I Do Have Controllers w\No component due to Thieves. ugh. wonder if They lost out as well? haha Shame for stolen item. =(
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i would pay max 20 euros for them since they should cost like a chinese capture card+old ide hdd
These old DVD/HDD recorders are capable of a much higher video quality than any Chinese video capture card. Most of those can not even capture a full quality analog PAL video signal.
@@DrCassette i know i have one (both chinese capture and an hdd recorder from 2004 but an hd capture card + a composite/scart to hdmi adapter is the best way for old videos
Don't throw electronic equipment away, please recycle!.
In Germany throwing away electronic equipment means recycling it. You can only legally dispose of electronics at a recycling facility over here.