Based on you having commented 8 months ago, that being the summer of '12, older trains were being used on the A to take advantage of the long outdoor runs to allow the really old air conditioning units to take a breather from being stuck on the (completely and boiling hot underground) C. The Q22 is also nowhere near the busiest line and does not require long bendy buses.
Once upon a time NYC had dedicated lanes for transit. They were trolleys. It seems like the city is reaching back into the past. Some boneheaded politicians decided that trolleys were bad and that buses were the way to go. So they paved over the tracks and bought in buses which belched out pollution. Way to go. I hope those responsible don't rest in their graves.
Update: All 5 boroughs of NYC have at least one Select Bus route, most of which use either XD60s or post-2016 LFSAs. Some are to be rerouted because of the ongoing bus Redesign and the Metrocard is slowly phasing out in favor of the new OMNY.
Once there was a southbound M15 SBS bus that was running regular, although after East 79th Street, it was running local. It was stopping at 75th Street, 70th Street, & even 63rd Street.
Manhttn & Bx are the first ones to get these articulated buses,why is the Rockaways & most of Queens always the last ones to get updated technology & service? The MTA fills our Q22 buses with ads bragging about the improvements to their systems but we don't see it in the Rockaways, it's a shame that the MTA replaces the J trains with new R160 trains & they give the old R42 to the A line. The A is the worst in the city, it comes by every 15 to 20 minutes & the commute itself to Far Rock is long.
It was very fast. But as a tourist, I did not know that unlike a regular bus, you could not simply board and swipe your metro card. I guess the reason you have to pay in advance at a machine is to save time at bus stops.
The fare inspectors are usually Police Officers. How you will know when Fare Inspectors are going to check for receipts is when a bus appears at the stop and you see a bunch of Police Officers at the stop, and they get on the bus. They check for receipts.
Well you don't know what you're missing. Buses now have cushioned, reclining chairs with cable and surround sound. They serve refreshments every 10 blocks. On weekends after midnight you can get a lap dance. It's just wonderful riding the bus. We missed you. Come on back.
yea i know for some reason ppl in Manhattan dont know about this sbs and the bronx had it already for years now and we love it works fine here i use is all the time but just like we all know ppl dont travel to the bronx, so they think this is the first time the MTA done this and its old news now for ppl in the bronx you should see how lost they are
Quick question. What’s the protocol for when the machines run out of paper? It’s happened to me a few times already. I asked the driver and he said I should call 511?? How’s that going to help me with the ride I just purchased but can’t prove?
Suinda San Juan There are two machines and if one of them runs out of paper, then the machine should say out of service. If that isn’t the case, then I don’t know what the hell they are doing. OMNY should help simplify this by moving the payment back on the bus, but at both doors. Ideally, at major transfer hubs, I would recommend off board fare collection using smaller machines.
Traffic cops to give $100 tickets when you don't have the paper receipt. It's a scam when there's a metrocard machine in the bus, but if you use this method of paying, you are guaranteed a ticket violation when the traffic cops board the bus.
So when is the select bus service gonna hit Queens? Glad it's in my hometown of the Bronx but, Queens needs them most epically the buses that goto JFK like the Q10, Q3, and Q6. While your at it MTA bring the SBS to the Q8!
I heard from the MTA, that they are also going to have another sbs service in Queens , the Q25 Limited is going to become Q25 sbs. There is going to be local service on the Q25. The Q20a/Q20b will provide local service for the Q44 sbs.
The Q53/Q52 are now SBS and it's awesome. Instead of having to wait 5 mins at each stop for everyone to pay it just leaves in about 1 minute and it's very fast.
Glitch94 The Q10 May be an SBS Line in the future. The Q8, not really. In addition, the Q5 in SE Queens was to be an SBS Route, but was scrapped in 2006 due to parking concerns. The corridor is being considered again as part of a new study.
The S79 Select Bus Service is not exactly an SBS because it has onboard fare collecting at the front of the bus. It must be called Select Bus Service because it makes limited stops, and it runs more frequently. One thing noticeable is that the limited routes only run at certain times on weekdays, and the S79 Select Bus Service runs 7 days a week.
I just recently learned of this new system on some of the crosstown buses. I thought it was a new system but apparently it was started already in 2010. It's a very weird and awkward system. If you haven't already purchased a ride, you're told to get off the bus and buy a fare from the machines. I've seen many people get on in the middle of the bus, are they not purchasing a fare at all?
If they do board when a Ticket Inspector comes on board He/She will give them a Fine of 100$ For not paying before boarding The sense is so that It takes WAY less time boarding since all doors can be used as people should of paid before getting on It looks complex at first but once you understand it it becomes a heck of a lot simpler
I was there a couple of years ago and I kept asking myself what's to stop someone from getting on for free. These bus inspectors, are they armed, do they have arrest powers and what is the penalty for riding gratis.
It actually seems to work very well. The last time I was on the Q44-SBS, a fare inspector boarded the bus and out of all the hundreds of people on that sardine can bus, I think two guys didn't pay. Seems to be the same with the thugs who get on and ask the bus driver for a free ride, in this case even less, as when I ride the Q25/34, at least 4-5 people ask for a free ride and get it each time.
@@TheRailLeaguer I thought Shade Jay said that they will get rid of SBS and that you will be able to get on any door you want. Even the latest buses don't have the SBS Decals.
Dream Journal Projects SBS will become the new LIMITED service, just with all door boarding. The branding will not go away as well. Only the machines will go away. 6234 only came in with the local scheme since it is a test bus. Just like 5987, it will be redelivered in the SBS scheme. I will double check the plans for OMNY and SBS and provide updates as things go along.
A lot of people farebeat on the M35 so maybe that route should get SBS treatment, so that when fare inspectors show up, the farebeaters can get punished for farebeating.
MP.4 Channel You don’t need SBS on the M35. Once the new fare system for the regular buses are in place, and the MTA has all-door boarding, then there should be fare inspectors at random places along the route, similar to San Francisco’s method of fare inspection.
alexvids 1121 M23 is already SBS. However, it was determined that all Crosstown (except for 125th Street, which carries 4 routes, and 14th Street during the L train shutdown) would have ALL local service replaced with SBS service, with some Stops consolidated to speed up service.
Akhil P Walia The process for the M15 SBS is the same for every single SBS Route, except for the S79, which does not have off-board fare payment, and the Q70 when they waive the fares on the line for high airport travel.
@TheEsotericDesi ahahah well for the record... I'm Italian and I dont see people here to be so polite! But yeah you're right when you're referring to Germans and English people. Well this can work for all Northern Europe. But believe me... I've always thought you guys had manners! I mean... sure your population is a mosaic of cultures, so that's tough to manage! Dont you think so?
Validators ought to be on board, not kerbside, plus riders'll probably wait at giving you feedback until they observe for themselves how civil a composure your inspector goons maintain when encountering fare evaders on board, right.. .. . .
Nick Jablonski The Metro Card fare collector machines are very easy to use. All you just do is press the silver start button, insert the Metro Card Face-Up. Take it out, and a receipt will print out. Pull out the receipt. Keep the receipt for the trip. This is in case fare inspectors appear at the stop the bus reaches, or if you are boarding or exiting the bus with fare inspectors. You have to charge hundreds of dollars if there are fare inspectors on the buses, and you don't have a ticket. Also, the correct kind of ticket for you.
Nick Jablonski You will probably not know when fare inspectors are going to appear. You should always have the receipt ready for fare inspectors. They might surprise you.
codeblu37 The pay-on-board system is very slow when boarding only through one door. With the new fare payment system coming soon, they will allow all door boarding (which will NOT increase fare evasion).
It’s actually simplistic The only people who think it’s stupid are Idiots who can’t understand the simple Ticket Machine You want faster service but don’t want faster service Make up your fucking mind
I got a freaking ticket for $100 and I payed half fare because I did not have 2.25 i only had 1.10 so i get a ticket for paying half fare for this service and I am a college student, can't college students get a break. OMG!
NewPScity sad bro follow laws it you pay your fair by select bus will Get $100 fines or JAIL time for 60 days and select bus have cameras on bus it already installed on select bus B12 M15 Q 44 now
@TheEsotericDesi I'm always looking for people from NYC. I really would like to talk with you. I know it sounds weird. But I felt in love with the city many years ago. I know lot of things about the place... I was so damn focused about it, I finally reached my dream in Oct 2010 when I came to New York City. Are you interested in having this kinda conversations? Sure we can talk about anything... i'm so curious about your country and everything! I hope this doesnt bother you...
@NewPSCity Dude, you farebeated. The $2.25 fare is for students older then 12th grade. Under 12th grade you get a student card, but not as a college student. If you didn't have 2.25, then go walk your damn way there. Americans are fat these days anyways (and yes I am American. I live in NYC, and no, I do not go chugging to McD everyday to eat tehre. I actually eat healthy)
This is one of few times when I want to thank MTA. Thank you for making this informative video!
Based on you having commented 8 months ago, that being the summer of '12, older trains were being used on the A to take advantage of the long outdoor runs to allow the really old air conditioning units to take a breather from being stuck on the (completely and boiling hot underground) C. The Q22 is also nowhere near the busiest line and does not require long bendy buses.
Took the SBS15 twice already, the line is noticeably faster! Love It!
Yeah It's annoying AF waiting for people to swipe one by one.
Once upon a time NYC had dedicated lanes for transit. They were trolleys. It seems like the city is reaching back into the past. Some boneheaded politicians decided that trolleys were bad and that buses were the way to go. So they paved over the tracks and bought in buses which belched out pollution. Way to go. I hope those responsible don't rest in their graves.
Relax
Update: All 5 boroughs of NYC have at least one Select Bus route, most of which use either XD60s or post-2016 LFSAs. Some are to be rerouted because of the ongoing bus Redesign and the Metrocard is slowly phasing out in favor of the new OMNY.
THE SELECT IS SOOOOOOO FAST!!!
3 people are still confused XD
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There are alot of Selective Bus Services in parts of Queens, Brooklyn, Bronx, Manhattan, and Staten Island too. 🙂
There’s only one in Staten Island
@@GamingWeekends1 Really? Cool. : )
@@osagiee.guobadia-secondytc4624 yeah, the S79 SBS
@@GamingWeekends1 Ok. 😀
Time to do this for the M14A and M14D.. those buses are hell during rush hour
Well it took 8 years but they did it.
@TheEsotericDesi Sure I understand... by the way, are you from NYC?
Once there was a southbound M15 SBS bus that was running regular, although after East 79th Street, it was running local. It was stopping at 75th Street, 70th Street, & even 63rd Street.
Manhttn & Bx are the first ones to get these articulated buses,why is the Rockaways & most of Queens always the last ones to get updated technology & service? The MTA fills our Q22 buses with ads bragging about the improvements to their systems but we don't see it in the Rockaways, it's a shame that the MTA replaces the J trains with new R160 trains & they give the old R42 to the A line. The A is the worst in the city, it comes by every 15 to 20 minutes & the commute itself to Far Rock is long.
Because Queens is the largest borough
And you can’t put an articulated bus route on all of them routes
THE M15 SELECT BUS IS AWSOME!!
It was very fast. But as a tourist, I did not know that unlike a regular bus, you could not simply board and swipe your metro card. I guess the reason you have to pay in advance at a machine is to save time at bus stops.
The fare inspectors are usually Police Officers. How you will know when Fare Inspectors are going to check for receipts is when a bus appears at the stop and you see a bunch of Police Officers at the stop, and they get on the bus. They check for receipts.
can they leave before they get on the bus?
They are mta police officers or ticket inspectors
now only if they did SBS service for long island.
I have no idea what's going on with the buses nowadays. The last time I took a bus was more then 20 years ago.
Well you don't know what you're missing. Buses now have cushioned, reclining chairs with cable and surround sound. They serve refreshments every 10 blocks. On weekends after midnight you can get a lap dance. It's just wonderful riding the bus. We missed you. Come on back.
yea i know for some reason ppl in Manhattan dont know about this sbs and the bronx had it already for years now and we love it works fine here i use is all the time but just like we all know ppl dont travel to the bronx, so they think this is the first time the MTA done this and its old news now for ppl in the bronx you should see how lost they are
I live on 81st and 1 av so when I get home from camp this year, which was on 29st, I sometimes used M15SBS to get home
nah this is old me
OLD ME WHY DID YOU DOXX URSELF
the limited wasnt very fast and the select is a replacement for a faster trip just incase you arent riding the bus for fun
Quick question. What’s the protocol for when the machines run out of paper? It’s happened to me a few times already. I asked the driver and he said I should call 511?? How’s that going to help me with the ride I just purchased but can’t prove?
Suinda San Juan There are two machines and if one of them runs out of paper, then the machine should say out of service. If that isn’t the case, then I don’t know what the hell they are doing.
OMNY should help simplify this by moving the payment back on the bus, but at both doors. Ideally, at major transfer hubs, I would recommend off board fare collection using smaller machines.
In New York city have bus card ? for payment , tranfer bus by bus ?
What happens when we don't even cae and we ride it
jian wen Li What are you talking about? You ride with no ticket and if you are caught, expect a $115 fine.
Wouldn't it make more sense to do this on cross-town routes, like they do in the Bronx with the Bx12, where there's less parallel subway service?
dudestir127 exactly
dudestir127 every crosstown route but the M23 needs to be select bus service
alexvids 1121 The M23 is already a select bus service route.
The reduced fare tickets are smaller than the full fare receipts.
@herenthere Just transit blogs? Umm the MTA website is up 24/7 bro
I have been on an Orion VII (07.501) (semi-low floor, hybrid electric) M15 SBS Bus Before.
I have seen it's next generation unwrapped on the route.
MP.4 Channel oh wow
The MTA does that when they have to keep the articulated buses grounded due to very rainy and snowy conditions.
But Metronit have got the electric buses. Have New-York City buses like that?
The New Flyer D60HF buses on the M15 routes are now all on the local.
All M15 Limited Bus stops that the M15 SBS doesn't stop at are all stops for the M15 Local Bus.
and now fully retired
Traffic cops to give $100 tickets when you don't have the paper receipt. It's a scam when there's a metrocard machine in the bus, but if you use this method of paying, you are guaranteed a ticket violation when the traffic cops board the bus.
I ride the New York subway for the first time but not the bus we walked around New York after riding the subway I wish we had rode the bus too
LFSA is starting to run on this route.
we also have M34 and M34A select bus service and BX12 select bus service and S79 select bus service
So when is the select bus service gonna hit Queens? Glad it's in my hometown of the Bronx but, Queens needs them most epically the buses that goto JFK like the Q10, Q3, and Q6. While your at it MTA bring the SBS to the Q8!
yes, there is a sbs bus service in Queens, on November 29, 2015, the Q44 Limited became Q44 sbs.
I heard from the MTA, that they are also going to have another sbs service in Queens , the Q25 Limited is going to become Q25 sbs. There is going to be local service on the Q25. The Q20a/Q20b will provide local service for the Q44 sbs.
The Q53/Q52 are now SBS and it's awesome. Instead of having to wait 5 mins at each stop for everyone to pay it just leaves in about 1 minute and it's very fast.
Glitch94 The M60,Q44,Q53,Q52, and Q70 are all SBS routes.
Glitch94 The Q10 May be an SBS Line in the future. The Q8, not really. In addition, the Q5 in SE Queens was to be an SBS Route, but was scrapped in 2006 due to parking concerns. The corridor is being considered again as part of a new study.
How to ride the SBS:
1. Don't. 😐
CynicalTroll What?
I’ll get you banned from CZcams
The first Select bus service was the Bx12, not the M15
Novabus LFS (semi-low floor, articulated) Buses Run On This Route.
The M15 Limited bus had a stop at 60th Street, but now the M15 SBS is here.
The M15 SBS Bus doesn't stop at 60th Street.
Nick Jablonski It doesn't stop at Delancey Street. The nearest stop for Delancey Street would be Grand Street.
+MP.4 Channel Now 55th Street!
Dear mtainfo ,I'd like to know if I use a 7 day pass metrocard ,do I have to use the machine to do the same thing ? Thank you !
c c.m. Yes. The MetroCard Machines at the stops are for all MetroCards, including unlimited.
@@TheRailLeaguer Thank you !!
It's like the Haifa's RBT, named Metronit.
@JeffOrnstein01 Yes.
The S79 Select Bus Service is not exactly an SBS because it has onboard fare collecting at the front of the bus. It must be called Select Bus Service because it makes limited stops, and it runs more frequently. One thing noticeable is that the limited routes only run at certain times on weekdays, and the S79 Select Bus Service runs 7 days a week.
MP.4 Channel The route has high ridership, which made it a candidate for SBS. However, it was not high enough to warrant off-board fare collection.
There's un spanish instrucción or información
I just recently learned of this new system on some of the crosstown buses. I thought it was a new system but apparently it was started already in 2010. It's a very weird and awkward system. If you haven't already purchased a ride, you're told to get off the bus and buy a fare from the machines. I've seen many people get on in the middle of the bus, are they not purchasing a fare at all?
If they do board when a Ticket Inspector comes on board He/She will give them a Fine of 100$ For not paying before boarding
The sense is so that It takes WAY less time boarding since all doors can be used as people should of paid before getting on
It looks complex at first but once you understand it it becomes a heck of a lot simpler
I was there a couple of years ago and I kept asking myself what's to stop someone from getting on for free. These bus inspectors, are they armed, do they have arrest powers and what is the penalty for riding gratis.
The wrath of the gestapo if you get caught.
John Smith Instead of paying 2.75 Your now Paying 100
Terrible idea for NY nobody will pay.
I'm sure the fare evasion fines will pay for that, and get people to pay.
have you ever seen a fare inspector ?
many times
It actually seems to work very well. The last time I was on the Q44-SBS, a fare inspector boarded the bus and out of all the hundreds of people on that sardine can bus, I think two guys didn't pay. Seems to be the same with the thugs who get on and ask the bus driver for a free ride, in this case even less, as when I ride the Q25/34, at least 4-5 people ask for a free ride and get it each time.
ike mike My idea would be to physically enclose every SBS stop
Out of curiosity, how will Select Bus Service be with OMNY?
Dream Journal Projects They might move fare payment on board the bus. In the future, all the limited routes will be SBS.
@@TheRailLeaguer I thought Shade Jay said that they will get rid of SBS and that you will be able to get on any door you want. Even the latest buses don't have the SBS Decals.
Dream Journal Projects SBS will become the new LIMITED service, just with all door boarding. The branding will not go away as well. Only the machines will go away.
6234 only came in with the local scheme since it is a test bus. Just like 5987, it will be redelivered in the SBS scheme.
I will double check the plans for OMNY and SBS and provide updates as things go along.
Maybe, contacless on board. Like everywhere. Go to see Staten Island. Greetings.
@@alfredoalvarez3401 With all due respect, I live on Staten Island and I'm still trying to understand it.
This video is outdated because the fare is 2.90, not 2.75
i actually never been on the BX12 select bus
A lot of people farebeat on the M35 so maybe that route should get SBS treatment, so that when fare inspectors show up, the farebeaters can get punished for farebeating.
MP.4 Channel You don’t need SBS on the M35. Once the new fare system for the regular buses are in place, and the MTA has all-door boarding, then there should be fare inspectors at random places along the route, similar to San Francisco’s method of fare inspection.
Doesn’t the M35 Just go to Randall’s island and back?
I bet lots of people NEVER heard of the Bx12+SBS which has been here since 2008 smh.
The fare became $2.50 in March 2013.
Well, you just ride it.
Plz make the m23 local not SBS, or have one SBS and another local
alexvids 1121 M23 is already SBS. However, it was determined that all Crosstown (except for 125th Street, which carries 4 routes, and 14th Street during the L train shutdown) would have ALL local service replaced with SBS service, with some Stops consolidated to speed up service.
Who says Vocal Fry is just a woman thing?
Helpful tho I will be travelling by M60 SBS
Akhil P Walia The process for the M15 SBS is the same for every single SBS Route, except for the S79, which does not have off-board fare payment, and the Q70 when they waive the fares on the line for high airport travel.
@TheEsotericDesi ahahah well for the record... I'm Italian and I dont see people here to be so polite!
But yeah you're right when you're referring to Germans and English people. Well this can work for all Northern Europe. But believe me... I've always thought you guys had manners! I mean... sure your population is a mosaic of cultures, so that's tough to manage! Dont you think so?
Validators ought to be on board, not kerbside, plus riders'll probably wait at giving you feedback until they observe for themselves how civil a composure your inspector goons maintain when encountering fare evaders on board, right.. .. . .
@KimichiSu never happen lol this will be the 2nd bus to get them
A really slow bus could be the M50 Crosstown Bus
The bus that is the most crowded on Weekdays at 3:15 PM is the M15 Local Bus
Nick Jablonski The M15 SBS Bus is faster than the M15 Limited Bus.
Nick Jablonski Now, it is easier to tell apart between the M15 Local Bus & The M15 SBS Bus.
M15
in NYC manhattan m15 bus
Why is the Romanian flag on this machines ?:)
Well, this eliminates the problem on when bus operators make kids over 44 inches tall ride for free just because they are with an adult
RIP 126 st depot
The coin fare collectors have 2 start buttons.
Nick Jablonski They are probably different sizes which makes sense because you pay less money with the yellow start button.
Nick Jablonski You would press the Black Start Button for paying Full Fare. You would press the Yellow Start Button for reduced fare.
Nick Jablonski The Metro Card fare collector machines are very easy to use. All you just do is press the silver start button, insert the Metro Card Face-Up. Take it out, and a receipt will print out. Pull out the receipt. Keep the receipt for the trip. This is in case fare inspectors appear at the stop the bus reaches, or if you are boarding or exiting the bus with fare inspectors. You have to charge hundreds of dollars if there are fare inspectors on the buses, and you don't have a ticket. Also, the correct kind of ticket for you.
Nick Jablonski You will probably not know when fare inspectors are going to appear. You should always have the receipt ready for fare inspectors. They might surprise you.
Does not go any faster than the M15 LTD
While in motion time has remained largely the same, dwell time’s have gone down for the most part.
If it ain't broke don't fix it
codeblu37 The pay-on-board system is very slow when boarding only through one door. With the new fare payment system coming soon, they will allow all door boarding (which will NOT increase fare evasion).
This is so weird. I've never seen this kind of stupid system
Yeonjoo Kim It’s not stupid. It’s simple.
It’s actually simplistic
The only people who think it’s stupid are Idiots who can’t understand the simple Ticket Machine
You want faster service but don’t want faster service
Make up your fucking mind
@@ninofromkitchennightmares1497 Simple? LOL
I got a freaking ticket for $100 and I payed half fare because I did not have 2.25 i only had 1.10 so i get a ticket for paying half fare for this service and I am a college student, can't college students get a break. OMG!
NewPScity sad bro follow laws it you pay your fair by select bus will Get $100 fines or JAIL time for 60 days and select bus have cameras on bus it already installed on select bus B12 M15 Q 44 now
@TheEsotericDesi I'm always looking for people from NYC. I really would like to talk with you. I know it sounds weird. But I felt in love with the city many years ago. I know lot of things about the place... I was so damn focused about it, I finally reached my dream in Oct 2010 when I came to New York City.
Are you interested in having this kinda conversations? Sure we can talk about anything... i'm so curious about your country and everything! I hope this doesnt bother you...
Select is overrated. Really! LTD wasn't that bad
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@NewPSCity Dude, you farebeated. The $2.25 fare is for students older then 12th grade. Under 12th grade you get a student card, but not as a college student. If you didn't have 2.25, then go walk your damn way there. Americans are fat these days anyways (and yes I am American. I live in NYC, and no, I do not go chugging to McD everyday to eat tehre. I actually eat healthy)
the fare is now $2.50
Ava Rhee Jablonski now it's $2.75
Now its $3 00
3.00!
M 15 selct bus is too crowed somtimes.
you trying to tell us something with asian actors?
3 people are still confused XD