6 AMAZING Facts you never knew about the Classic Star Wars Battlefront 2
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- čas přidán 8. 06. 2024
- Classic Battlefront 2 has amazing hidden facts and details that many players don't know about like the how the Dark Trooper is a Clone Cyborg!! So in this series we'll show them off. #starwarsbattlefront2 #starwars #starwarsbattlefrontll
Time Stamp
00:00 Clone Jet trooper change
00:22 Clone Sharp shooter is wrong
00:35 Clone Heavy/Engineer origin
01:28 Imperial Shock & Dark trooper origin
02:40 Cut Hero Skin
03:21 Heroes sharing moves - Hry
![The Rebel and Scout Trooper who were left behind on Endor [Legends]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/xCFxYc4JhHs/mqdefault.jpg)
I always wished that the clones battalions would change depending on the map in the classic bf2. It was probably what I wished the game had more than anything else when I played as a kid. I wanted to play as the 212th on Utapau so bad
Well, in the Campaign they were the 501st rightfully so. However, an official skin changer for MP or Instant Action would have been a nice addition.
The 501st was totally different than its TCW counterpart. They weren't even under Anakin's command until Operation: Knightfall.
ikr such a shame we could only play as 501st on every map, sucks how rebels got the most map specific skins.
@@Hero_of_SinnohThe thing is that even though we play as the 501st Legion, the only Phase II 501st members are the Clone Troopers, Clone Jet Troopers and Clone Marines.
@@MarsiB013 I loved the old Campaign, but also kindof didnt like how it fit them into every single battle. It kindly felt weird even as kid back then. Definitely wanted different battalions in IA and GC.
The 501st in TCW went through much worse. On top of the death trap Felucia, They also survived Umbara and Cato Neimoidia. I think if Anakin wasn't with them through all that, they wouldn't have made it through the war
@@invaderIRK1 They were everywhere because the 501st was deployed in batches to support other Battalions or to complete certain missions for Palpatine. They didn't have a fix Jedi Commander. They were Palpatine's personal elite clone legion.
Fun Fact:
As you might know, Polis Massa has suffocation damage if you walk outside on the asteroid. What you might not know is that all CIS units (excluding heroes) do not take this damage, since they're all droids. They still make the damage noise, though.
This means that the CIS is clearly the superior playable faction.
Also, I once had a Jawa repair me as a droideka. That was weird. I can't remember if it was a random bug where he got confused, or if it even healed anything. But it was weird.
Yeah that was probably a bug, Jawas don’t repair you in BF2, they repair you in BF1 one though
@@whonow3486 Maybe I was remembering it from BF1 then. Very possible.
the cis was the most fun faction to use imo
Agreed, though clones should have been able to go out onto the surface without damage too, since their armour is canonically pressurized for vacuum. It would have balanced things out. Now stormy armour isn't pressurized for vacuum.
@@georgeoldsterd8994Doesn't make sense for Phase 2 Clone Troopers, since the armour they wear requires an external oxygen supply for vacuum survival. Source: Clone Wars 2003, vol 2.
The Heavy Trooper wearing the ARC trooper outfit is a neat reference to the original Clone Wars cartoon, where a blue ARC trooper deploys a rocket launcher against droids on Muunilinst
I always thought the Geonosis/Phase 1 Heavy Trooper was based off Captain Rex because he looks almost the same with the blue and the attachment on the helmet. Especially when he has pistol equipped! Is the Heavy NOT based on Captain Rex?! Such an iconic character with an iconicn look that's so close in game I'd be surprised if he wasn't!
@@fuzzyotterpaws4395 Classic Battlefront actually predates Captain Rex, it came out in 2004 and TCW started in 2008. The Heavy Troopers are based on the ARC troopers from the old Clone Wars cartoon, and Captain Rex's armour from TCW is also based on that design
1:29 Shock troopers in both Canon and Legends generally didn't work as a legion, they fulfilled specific roles in the stormtrooper corps and would turn up where needed. During the Battlefront 2 campaign as I mentioned previously, many Shock Troopers were essentially part of the 501st even though they were technically their own unit. Not only this, but many shock troopers were actually stationed on important naval vessels as stormtrooper marines for some reason. The imperial CG was basically the polar opposite of the clone CG in terms of effectiveness and combat experience.
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@@Mentally_Ill_Simp You're making this comment because you think I'm a geek right? Well to answer your question, no, I don't, but I would argue me having a *girlfriend* has nothing to do with being a geek and rather that I haven't met anyone I am interested in.
ok. Just checking. @@tk-6967
@@Mentally_Ill_Simp
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Time = Money
Evil = Money^2
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I like the sound of that. @@khajiitimanus7432
The red armored imperial shocktroopers didnt appear in any form of media before 2015 or so. Before then, they were only present as red armored clone troopers that acted as part of the coruscant guard.
Their appearance before that was identical to normal stormtroopers- until they took on the sand trooper equipment in battlefront 1...
All old star wars games need a remaster, with UE5 level graphics.
They appeared in Revenge of the Sith in the council chamber after yoda vs sidious and when the emperor finds Anakin on the lava banks of Mustafar.
@@Kpoole35 which, as I said, were the clones that acted as part of the coruscant guard. Which was why they were on coruscant. In the council chamber.
@@wooow35 yes but they were also on mustafar. And you also claimed they weren’t shown in any media.
@Kpoole35 you mean when they were escorting the Supreme chancellor (or should I say emperor)? And last I checked those were still 'clone troopers'. So again. There were no red armored imperial shocktroopers that appeared in any form of media.
I think the reason a lot of the Clone Trooper classes don't make sense when compared to canon is because the game was being made at the same time as Revenge of The Sith. So a lot of designs weren't fleshed out yet, or the dev's weren't given enough info on what these designs were for when making the game. It's most likely the former, as there was a lot of things changed conceptually during the making of the movie. Like, as mentioned in the video Quinlan Voss not even appearing in the movie, despite there being concepts for him during the order 66 scenes.
I love the Imperial Dark Trooper, it's interesting seeing the different interpretations of them across various games/media.
0:19 according to the lore behind the journal, it was common for ARC troopers to carry heavy weapons, and since the 501st detachment we play as in the campaign was an elite detachment sent to various fronts in the clone war, they had very elite soldiers with them, such as paratroopers, Galactic Marines, ARC troopers, etc.
Sure...and all of the classes except for the Trooper, Jet and Marine, have different legion signs. Mods had managed to correct this btw. The 501st never had Galactic Marines.
@@MarsiB013 Of course it didn't, the lore is just weird is all. Like technically ARC troopers weren't attached to specific legions until Filoni shit all over the lore in TCW, but still. Maybe they could say that some of the 21st accompanied that specific 501st unit as well?
@@tk-6967 Yeah, TCW is a shit show and should not exist.
ARC Troopers were part of the Special Operation Brigade.
The devs probably didn't know the meanings of the skins. They just played pick and choose.
Yes, the 501st Legion was sent in batches to support other Battalions or to complete special missions for Palpatine.
In the original Clone Wars cartoon the blue ARCs did use rocket launchers, among other gear. In BF1 and in the Geonisis mission in BF2 I always played as the heavy, but would run around with the pistol, because I was an ARC. 😁
@@georgeoldsterd8994 Me too. I still do.
Wow I never thought about the animations for jedi being related due to lore. I thought they just wanted to cut corners lol, which probably did have something to do with it but your explanation makes it sound like a lot more homework was done than we thought.
Well shock trooper in this case just means a specially trained soldier. They are often better trained and equipped than other infantry and expected to take heavy casualties even in successful operations. Considering they're a Rocket class meant to take on vehicles this name makes sense
I can only imagine the absolute devastation the doubters had when you broke down the lightsaber fighting styles and proved there were intentional connections between characters' movesets.
An odd bug I’ve encountered is that if you play CTF on Tatooine, if you order a Jawa to follow you, you can have him pick up either flag and he can capture it at the opposite base without awarding either team a point. I’ve never seen if the Jawas can “win” by capturing the amount specified by the win condition however.
Thanks for the fact! Just tried it out & it always says defeat no matter what, will put more details in next video
@@Hero_of_Sinnoh that’s cool you followed up on my comment. did you try it with players on both teams to confirm both sides lose?
@@JayS96Bruh Yep, regardless if you would win or loose, if the Jawa scores the final point, you loose
@@Hero_of_Sinnoh that’s really odd the programmed the 3rd faction to be able to win games. Perhaps they programmed them using the regular bot code and it’s just left over commands that were never deleted. Weird they can score at all tho. Odd stuff. Thanks for looking into it and replying tho 👍
@@JayS96BruhHonestly so strange, but no worries thanks for the fun fact
For lore funsies, the clone batallions featured are:
Clone Trooper: 501st Legion
Heavy/Commander: 21st Nova Corps (aka Galactic Marines, with the heavy as Commander Bacara as mentioned in the video)
Sniper: the armor and markings are 212th Attack Battalion paratrooper, but the purple coloring is closer to 5th Fleet Security. On Kashyyyk and Felucia this changes to 41st Scout Battalion scout troopers
Engineer: 7th Legion
Jet Trooper: 501st Legion, from Episode 3 concept art
1:36 To be fair, this Shocktrooper design never existed until EA's 2015 game, and it has no reference in canon outside of that game
What's other cool facts about the BF series that I missed? Thank you for 500+ likes! Part 4 is out now about differences between BF1 & 2. Watch here - czcams.com/video/Rh5qHrbWJVA/video.html&ab_channel=HeroofSinnoh
Ben Kenobi was supposed to have his voice lines too.
Royal Guard was also meant to be in BF2. He had recorded voice lines too.
Luke actually had a “farm boy” skin as well, it’s still present in the instruction manual for the PC and PSP versions I believe. Also I think Luke and Han both had stormtrooper skins at one point during development.
@@ethnol3842 That's so interesting, Ill defs look into it, thanks!
Here are some facts/other suggestions for videos:
1. In the game file k wing. In one of the games files there was a k-wing a Legends Bomber from after the original trilogy.
2. Video game demos. The 2004 game had a Xbox demo on the 2004 original trilogy DVD box set and the second game had a demo on the episode 3 DVD.
3. Original versions of maps sometimes they do a layout of a map in pre-production and then change it and it's different to what you get on the released game.
4. More cheat codes I know you briefly show them on a video but you could show more in depth.
5. Different places in the game where you can instantly die I remember in the second game on geonosis top command post and there's a hole if you jump in it you die.
5. Differences depending on what version of the game you have
6. You could do some facts about the PSP Battlefront games.
7. Things made specially for the games that weren't around before like in the first game droid gunship & some locations.
8. Some trailers had footage that wasn't in the actual released games.
9. Voice lines & music in games.
10. The difference between console and PC menu.
11. In Battlefront 2 I think in some space maps with the visibility cheat on I was able to fly through capital ship and blow up the inside Parts.
12. Battlefront 2 Capital ship life support room: You can place time bombs on the back computer screen and blow up. But you can blow up those other other things that are in the middle of the room. There's many of them I'm not sure what happens once you destroy them all. If you enter the room and destroy all of them don't do any think to that back computer & It might destroy it I'm not sure.
@@DanBen07Thanks for the facts! Defs will include these in upcoming videos, already working on a Beta/Demo version video next and was planning on psp ver soon after, ill look more into these.
one thing i always wish the devs did was add more droid customization. like super battle droid for assault, one of the crawling droids for heavy, assassin droids for the sniper, engineer would be regular b1, then magnaguard being a cool class, and droidekas. or droidekas for assault and supers for heavy.
LOVE the video, this game was such a gem.
That's why there's so many really cool mods for this game! I'm a console gamer but I play BF2 on Steam because it's so old and low end I can actually run on it on my laptop. SO many cool mods that add tons of new content, including lots of clone mods that add all the different colors and factions. Some are attached to the map, but some you can choose what faction you want through the menu, so I used that for Galactic Conquest a lot, trying different ones on different planets. BF2 mods are awesome!
Phase 3 Darktroopers in Legends were actually humans, phases 1 and 2 were droid for testbed purposes, the ultimate goal of the project was to make Phase 3 trooper armor the new standard issue for Stormtroopers after the first Death Star blew up.
As far as I know Phase 3 is a droid aswell as long as we count Empire at War as a source (more likely Legends than Canon tho)
They where equipped with heavy Arm Blasters just like Super Battle Droids and additional Shoulder-mounted Missile Launchers
True, though afaik their presence in Empire at War is purely in the non-canon versus modes, in the main game I think only Phase 2 troopers appear. Legends is notorious for retcons, but in Dark Forces the first and only Phase 3 DT is fought as the final boss, and afterwards the Arc Hammer is destroyed and development ceased. They could have gone back on that lol@@nicz7694
EDIT: Nah you're right, some survived the Arc Hammer's destruction. And yeah, Empire at War is legends, DT's didn't exist in canon outside some mobile games until The Mandalorian
The dark trooper also made an appearance in Galactic Battlegrounds, a 2001 real time strategy game, he is the imperial fortress unit
2:17 i like how the armor has nipples.
That's such a well thought out game! I'm glad I spend so much time on it although I never noticed most of these things until you mentioned it in your video
There's so many really cool mods for this game! I'm a console gamer but I play BF2 on Steam because it's so old and low end I can actually run on it on my laptop. SO many cool mods that add tons of new content, including lots of clone mods that add all the different colors and factions. Some are attached to the map, but some you can choose what faction you want through the menu, so I used that for Galactic Conquest a lot, trying different ones on different planets. BF2 mods are awesome!
The Red white Imperial shock Trooper for EA Battlefront game was made specially for that game.
But they were actually introduced in the EU 90s and they were white with some differences depending what video game or Media they were shown.
The appearance of the Clone Trooper I just assumed was just based off concept art of the Ep3 Clone Pilot.
As some media released for Ep3 such as 2D clone wars show, and Lego game had a full face covered helmet. Rather than a visor like in the final film.
i love these types of videos man, just when I thought I knew everything about battlefront
Glad you enjoyed! More Battlefront content on the way.
I always thought the Geonosis/Phase 1 Heavy Trooper was based off Captain Rex because he looks almost the same with the blue and the attachment on the helmet. Especially when he has pistol equipped! Is the Heavy NOT based on Captain Rex?! Such an iconic character with an iconicn look that's so close in game I'd be surprised if he wasn't!
Darth maul also has a sick lightsaber twirl attack if you hold the attack button for the last input in the combo
These facts were actually amazing. Especially the last ones about the move sets. 👍
Watching this because I need to learn tricks for March
The mid air explosion at the intro had me dead
Been playing since release, knew all of these but still enjoy watching these videos
I always thought the clone engineer armour was mainly inspired by the tie-pilots' armour. The helmet, at any rate. But in-universe it's obviously the other way around, which is also weird, since clone pilots had a different design altogether, and imperial engineers also have different outfits.
If the 2003 Clone wars cartoon and stuff like Revenge of the Sith Incredible Cross-Sections which came out before the movie are anything to go by the clone pilots were originally going to have a fully enclosed helmet which was visually more similar to TIE pilot helmets but they choose to go with the current design instead for whatever reason.
@@SOMEGUY7893 I miss phase 1 armours. The phase 2 looked way too much like stormtrooper armour, which didn't make sense for the Republic's image as the "good guys" (stormtrooper armour, among other things, was meant to intimidate enemies). I get that they were going for a transition between Republic and Empire, but it was too on the nose.
@@georgeoldsterd8994 I disagree, I never got the impression Phase 2 armor looked "too evil" or "too intimidating" for the (mostly) good guys even as a kid. Also in general looking intimidating isn't weird for a military faction even if it's a good one, they're still there to fight an enemy.
@@Chicky_Lumps except most of the enemies are supposed to be emotionless robots.
Another banger of a video!!
The shocktrooper design shown here was made for Battlefront 2015, it did not exist prior to it, that is why you find it anywhere in previous battlefront games or any other medias.
Thanks for the info dorks.
A side note about the Ben Kenobi "model left in the files", as far as I'm aware there only remains voice files and an unfinished loadout for him (which uses I think had either Mace WIndu or Young Obi's model as a placeholder)
Pretty cool how they tied in master and apprentice move sets. I never realized that.
phase 1 clone jet troopers weapon in battlefront 1 were so fun to use
Dark Forces was the first Star Wars video game I ever played! It was basically a Star Wars themed Doom clone, super fun.
The clone engineer helmet appear in the animated 2D Clone Wars series. They were Acclamator pilots
Luke actually has the standing attack of Ki-Adi-Mundi, the running attack of Yoda and the jumping attack of Aayla Secura.
1:36 This is the shock trooper from the new canon. The original Battlefront games were made before the Disney purchase.
I kinda remember Obi Wan and Anakin having different stats too, like Obi Wan had higher defense and Anakin did more damage
One thing I always thought was interesting is the way rebel soldiers brutalize dead stormtroopers to make sure their armor won't save them.
Clone Engineers wear armor very similar to V-Wing Pilots.
TBH I think it would be cool (If cannon) The Dark Trooper Phase 0 actually happened in star wars but they later turned into the Death Trooper seeing their faults at "testing phases"
Engineer armor was meant to be seen in a delited scene for RotS. When Yoda and Obi Wan came to the jedi tample they were met with clones wearing this armor and coats to mask as the jedi.
fantastic channel
I use to play as the clone heavies just to look like an Arc Trooper lol
Let's not forget that in the PSP Battlefront Renegade Squadron (and elite squadron by extension), they let you put different heads on the same bodies. For CIS you could have an IG head on a magnaguard, for GR you could put commando, bacara and paratroopers on the same (weird looking) body type and so on and so forth. the battlefront games aren't great at making sure which design represents which unit.
50% droid, 30% skill, 20% the power of will
the only time Anakin was on the same side as Kenobi in this game was in the DLC map Yavin Arena where they had Ventress be the CIS Hero. and they decided to make Anakin the Republic Hero in honor of that old cartoon mini series
They put so much thought into this game. It’s mind boggling how much care they made this game with v. EA. Such a huge gap
As someone who played this game for countless hours I didn’t know there was more to it then just shooting some droids
This bundle would have made more sense if they:
A.) Didn't release it on Steam and instead it was just a Console Bundle that had Cross-Play with Steam and Each Other.
or
B.) Was bundled with a proper Remaster of the PSP Battlefront that a lot of people have forgot even existed.
A class I wish we had in Battlfront 2 for the Republic Side instead of the Jet Trooper is the Shadow Trooper
I just want cool clone skins… instead of weird mix mash of troopers.
One of my biggest gripes when I was 10…
I actually didn't know that last part...
I think they're was also supposed to be a Tatooine Luke Skin but was cut from the game, im not sure tho
1. ARC Troopers were known to have carried projectile weapons of almost any kind.
2. Helmets aren't always unique to certain variants of Clone Troopers.
3. Bacara's armor wasn't unique to him. In fact, it's a variant of Phase 2 ARC Trooper armor.
4. Of course we're not going to see every character or trooper class that existed during Revenge of the Sith. And again, helmets aren't always unique to certain Clone Trooper variants.
5. The Empire had several types of Shock Troopers within the ranks of the Stormtooper corps, most of which were equipped with various heavy weapons. Classic Battlefront II is part of the Expanded Universe. The Shock Troopers with the red markings are from Disney's canon.
6. You left out the reason as to why Clones were no longer used for Dark Trooper experimentation and why the Phase 1 Dark Trooper was introduced. That reason being that most of them committed suicide due to their PTSD from the Clone Wars kicking in. What would trigger their PTSD was the fact that they became more droid than man, and to say that Clones aren't very fond of droids is an understatement.
Even more cooler
The only thing I dislike in the OG BFs are the class skins.
The vehicles are also incorrect. The v wing being the most obvious imo, they turned a fast interceptor/ escort into a bomber lol same with Greivous' personal ship
Ohhhhh Commander Faie
Even with bad movies there was some cool content as of now Mando is cool or was cool
Poor Dark Trooper became the thing he hates the most
In canon phase 2s are armored exo suits
There's a bunch of weird things about the game. Some of the units are just random Star Wars stuff. Like the CIS bomber is General Grievous's star fighter and the REP fighter is a Jedi Starfighter.
"Even more cooler"
Did you know the model name for the heavy class is ARC Trooper, it is an arc trooper, just playing a heavy role, Also about the shock trooper, Remember that Battlefront 2 was developed before episode 3, and Shock troopers didnt exist, especially for the empire.
I always thought the Geonosis/Phase 1 Heavy Trooper was based off Captain Rex because he looks almost the same with the blue and the attachment on the helmet. Especially when he has pistol equipped! Is the Heavy NOT based on Captain Rex?! Such an iconic character with an iconicn look that's so close in game I'd be surprised if he wasn't!
@@fuzzyotterpaws4395 the show didnt come out until a few years after SWBF2 did, Captain rex is more closely based on ARC troopers (what the SWBF2 heavy is) than anything. But no the heavy phase 1 clone isnt based on captain rex as captain rex did not exist at the time
I wish renegade and elite squadron had gotten pc ports
This entire video was just "here's a fact you already knew" because of BF 1&2 were my shit. I'm a world record holder for a reason. I know my games 🗿
Also Luke and Han have unused stormtrooper variants
Cool
cooler
1:22
they looked WAY into the yoda thing
JESUS CHRIST
That's some me level of dedication
Back then they didn't have enough space to put larger games on a single disk so they re-used a lot of assets. It's not lazy coding but neither is it that deep.
Still one of the best Star Wars game!
Can anyone tell me the name of the training map (i just started playing this game)
Don’t forget that the back pack of the dark trooper is just a prop that was used by qui gon in episode 1, or maybe it was a necklace anakin wore. It’s one of those. Go see for yourself
Should I play this on Series X backwards compatibility or PC?
Pc if ya want graphics and mods, Series X if you get dlc, and always enjoyed the game with controller more anyways.
@@Hero_of_Sinnoh Thank you
The dark trooper has appeared in Cannon thanks to the second series of the Mandalorian before that show had its bad half series & worse 3rd series. Disney really doesn't know how to make good star wars stuff for long.
Dark forces was great.
Btw on the PSP version they fixed all those color mistakes I’m pretty sure
And don’t sleep on the PSP version it was still amazing, and you could even play with friends who also have the PSP version
Don't forget kyle katarn the ex stormtrooper destroyed the 1st set of dark trooper projects, thats why we havent seen any " canon wise" 😂
"Kai adi mundi"
It's Ki.
Dark troopers are Combine Elites???
CZcams already has a subtitle feature.
Phase 3 dark trooper is just Frank Horrigan from Fallout
sorry to cross fandoms
Anybody know if that "battlefront 3" mod is any good?
the clone engineers are actually at-st drivers
When you say canon, do you mean Disney or Legends?
Why do you enforce subtitles? Can't you make them optional?
1:15 Keller was newer killed wtf
No one said that.
@@MarsiB013 he did bro
@@rootin222 He did not.
All these older videos will help with the game coming back out on ps4 and ps5 lol 🎉😂🎉
Nice. But get over it lol, those two original battlefronts top a majority of new games
Dude they reuse animations to save space when deving games.
It's Aspyr.
I tried to tell people hyping this shit that it wont be anywhere near close to what they think it will be.
Aspyr more or less just ports. They don't do anything else. They don't Remake, They don't Remaster, They don't even fix outstanding bugs. They just port. It is *LITERALLY* the exact same game already on Steam only bundle with the... three DLC's the games had?
I gave them a pass with Stubb the Zombie because it's original PC port was terrible, so bad in fact that it was pulled from Steam. There wasn't anything in recent memory to compare Aspyr's Stubbs to and for those who did have the displeasure of owning the original Steam version, Aspyr's was a direct upgrade because it was at least functional.
its only 30bucks so its fine
I got a question
yep?
@Hero_of_Sinnoh so I ranked higher then captain...yet Clones aren't following behind my back and help shooting where I shoot at....yes I'm ranked at general which is higher then captain
@@jarrodedson5441 So you have to command them to follow you even if you have a high rank. If your on console, press up on the D-pad. If your on PC its 4 or F4, but I usually switch the key binding to something easier like B
@Hero_of_Sinnoh right and which one is the D pad? On xbox
@@jarrodedson5441 So the joy stick is the 2 circle ones, d pad is the 4 buttons on the left that goes up, right, down, left.
Damn that was absolutely terrible
1:36, no they don't wear read, this is the pre- Filoni/Disney era, turn off your Disney brain for a second.
I never noticed how honestly lazy this game was. Lots of reused animations.
It's not lazy smh. It had a lot of content for a game released 1 year later
@@dtxspeaks268 It had a lot of *reused* content for a game that released one year later. I corrected you