First Damascus, Hand Forged!
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- čas přidán 11. 10. 2018
- My first experience with damascus steel. Forged by hand from k720 (O2) and 15n20 tool steel.
This project started out very easily prepearing the billet, but as soon as I started hammering on it I realized it was going to be a real challenge. Tool steel is very hard to move! Specially when it's as thick as the billet I made.
After setting the weld I decided to split the stock in half so I would have had a better chance to heat it all up properly and possibly weld it for good by hand.
Unfortunatly I had mixed result with making it forge weld, not really sure about the reason why, maybe low heat, cold forging (even though I tried to never forged under orange) or the fact that I started to beat on the sides too early. Anyway, while forging I was able to spot a crack in one side and some cold spots on the top and bottom of the steel. To get rid of both I ended up grinding a lot of material away and that's made the final product much shorter and thinner than I anticipated.
I even had to leave a hairline fracture on the spine because the material was getting too small.
To prevent the crack from splitting open in the hardening process I tried to use some refractory cement (just like I do to develop hamons) this worked pretty well and I ended up with an usable piece of steel
Overall very happy with the result since it's my very fisrt attempt.
Index of operation and materials:
0:25 Cutting steel with metal cutting band saw
1:00 Grinding scales off on 2x72 (holding pieces with magnet)
2:00 Stacking the billet alternating 15n20 and k720 and cleaning everything with acetone
2:37 Stick welding the billet (rebar handle added off camera)
3:16 Borax used as fluck between each heat
3:45 Setting the weld
4:44 Grinding off stick welds
4:56 Cutting billed in two pieces
6:24 Isolating tang material
7:16 Grinding to shape
7:47 Test etch with ferric chloride
8:19 Steel wire to help cement stick
8:25 Refractory cement
9:00 Hardened in my homemade heat treating oven. 810°C for 30 min and quenching in oil
9:31 Tempering in toster oven at 200°C for 2.5hr
10:02 Cleaning up on the belt grinder and sanding by hand up to 600 grit
10:50 degreasing with acetone
10:53 final etch in ferric chloride
Off camera I sanded the 15n20 parts with 1200 grit sandpaper to make it shine.
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Канал отличный. Для начала не плохо, больше слоев и рисунок станет более интересным. Так же можно попробывать сделать Булат.
I like your videos that is not wootz steel it is just pattern welded steel.
Thank you so much for Your CZcams videos.
I like the shape of the knife, it's really well done. If you want some pointers on doing this again go have a look at a guy shurap here on CZcams, he does magnificent work.
Good job. Having made a patter-welded blade by hand hammering myself, I appreciate the effort it takes. My only tip would be to use an odd number of layers, so both sides of the blade appear similar. It also allows for a homogenous edge with a low layer count. Again, bravo.
Even though I don't think i will make one, I like watching people making these blades.
same
Its like watching some pro tutorial
Yes why we do that
As a retired shop teacher...great use of safety! I just got some blanks for tool steel for my birthday. I'm excited to use your process to try out my first Damascus blank. I was most interested in seeing the coal forge do the heating for the welds.
I love watching first time Damascus videos. There are some tips I wanted to give if you don't already have a bunch of them. Firstly, I noticed the delam and cold shunts, which is why you had to do so much grinding to get them out. Watch your temperature control. You want the entire peice to be a bright yellow, almost white before you start to try to set your welds. I only say that because the camera showed varying colors on your material as you brought it out for the forge weld. Damascus patterns run along the end and sides of the material. That would be where you want your blade to stem from. It's not required to fold or to restack for a Damascus pattern to show through, but at least hammer the sides of the billet into the flat of the blade and leave the top and bottom of the billet as your edge and spine. This will make for a more drastic pattern after the etch.
I was curious about why you decided to make a hamon on the blade before you ground down to around 600 grit. The hamon is a surface finish, but you ground that off after your heat treat.
I'm not criticizing your work. You did an amazing job, especially since it was all done by hand. Kudos to you, sir.
Great comments!! Very helpful, thank you
My grandfather,who was a blacksmith in the 30's told me the secret with forge welding is to give yourself ten seconds of hammering, then back in the heat. I've followed his advice, and have made 400 plus layer Damascus without all the sanding and acetone cleaning very successfully, a good clean with the wire brush is really all you need. Your steel gets cold, your screwed and your gonna have delamination. Love your channel
Ok😊
2:08
Me: I'll just stick it in a vice and it's ready for welding.
Him: more vices...
As we say in Russia - first pancake lumpy, you will make it much better next time!
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@@DrBF3000 I don't know why but is there a better alternative?
I get a real kick out of seeing how many people now subscribe to your channel, you’ve done so well, your consistency has paid off...well done, such an amazing channel 👍
An awesome work ! It look so strong and sharp ! Can't wait to see the final result !
We want more of this !
Keep going on !
Tell please, what the hell is Damascus?
Love how that turned out, looks sweet !
Welcome to the club! I just polished the bevel on the kiridashi I made out of my first damascus billet. It's my EDC blade. I've done 3 cable damascus billets since then and I'm working on a larger stacked billet now.
Thanks for this, I really enjoy your videos.
Good stuff man, I soak the stack in diesel right before first heat, the fuel burns off any oxygen before the first borax can get in. Heat your borax to remove the moisture, you can bake it in the oven... then keep it sealed. Anhydrous borax is ideal, 1/3 each, if you like of powdered iron, boric acid and anhydrous borax seems to work better than out of the box... you will love a press... temp is everything.
To see how Damascus steel is worked, Toledo, Spain
the best steel that forged an empire ever equaled.
Finalmente il damasco! Bravo black! Dopo tutti i progetti portati su questo canale si sentiva la mancanza del RE degli acciai! Fanne ancora!
La lavorazione del damasco da vedere e bellissima! Damascus is a drug!🔥🔥🔥🔥👏👏👏👏👏🔨🔨🔨🗡🗡🗡🗡🗡🗡🗡
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Magari è una stronzata, ma il Damasco non è blu?
L'acciaio damasco consiste nel mettere strati di acciaio diversi che poi vengono saldati per mezzo del calore e dei colpi di martello.
Si legano assieme acciai teneri con acciai molto duri ... questo fa sì che una volta finito l'acciaio risultante sia elastico e con un filo estremamente tagliente.
Le lame possono essere rese blu se una volta temprate si punta una fiamma ossidrica sulla lama per alcuni secondi... però questo compromette un pò la tempra.
I don't undestand... write italian or english please.
Bella Raga sono italiano
Per una prima volta non e tanto male 😉👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Love seeing damascus been made I need to try something similar with copper and sterling silver
Excellent work 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
You make it look so easy and with a great looking tool at the end
Just got some sweet old files and can't wait to get home and get forging!
Omg yes thank you I was soooo bored. You saved my life!
Absolutely amazing content!
Congratulations on the first apricot. I still haven't had the courage to do this. It was beautiful. Eduardo from Brazil
Good job! I am learning to make my pattern welded steel by hand as well . In my opinion after bringing the stack to forge welding heat try using a vise for first press. I find it very helpful in avoiding the edge of the stack not fusing. Grinding out the open bits is a ballache lol. Oh and more flux! Thanks for sharing!
Woww damascus steel is other level. Good job. Congratulations
just what everyones been waiting for
Cool idea with the wire and mud and the straightening jig.
Its the hand hammering that impressed me!!!!!!
Nice job man! You'll get addicted to it fast!
Wow. Hoping Part 2 is in the works. Thanks.
*amazing*
Love it!!! Not another selfie obsessed content creator.
It’s great to see this done by hand and not with a power hammer. It’s on my list of things to do, I don’t have $8,000.00 to spend on a power hammer.
It's so beautiful, congrats :) I want To see a bigger kitchen knife from Damascus. You are very talented.
That looks amazing.
Beautiful work!! 🙏
Truly inspirational.... one day I'll get around to trying this. Your forearm must have ached after hammering that billet flat! Thank you for another great video.
Great knife. Love the use of claying to make a hamon.
+1 For the hammon method, never have seen it done that way.
Just discovered this channel and I love it. Subscribed
Yep that was interesting..very cool
Ficou bonita, e tenho certeza que a próxima vai ficar mais ainda
Proyecto fantastico que abre muchas posibilidades, me encanta. saludos
Great Video , Wonderful Channel, Thanks for sharing.
Not bad at all for your first effort with damascus, I'm sure you learned from it as we all do when we experiment. Good job!
I like that it’s kinda simple Damascus not like super complicated. Simple is sometimes better
Очень аккуратная работа..Мне нравится..Отличный нож получился
Felicito por los conocimientos quimicos y fisicos de las cosas-Desde Uruguay.saludos
I thought you were going to fold the layers on themselves multiple time to make the pattern seen in Damascus blades
I thought so too.
Since this is his first time maybe he just wants to feel how the knocking feels
That noy how it works
Noone makes damascus anymore. It's ancient. This is called forge welding, pattern welding if you are mixing metals and cutting and stacking for a specific pattern in the final blade. You would not want actual damascus steel. They had to fold it back then because the iron quality was so bad back then.
3:47 little mouse steals the show under the anvil 🐁
Nicely done! 👍👊
That was bad ass. Hand forged damascus. Can't wait to see you finish up that knife.
That is not Damascus at all
The cutest little slag hammer I've ever seen 😍
Good job, great 👍 👍 👍
I applaud you, the biggest problems I see with Damascus forge welding it when people don’t clean everything properly😄
Dude I just tried to weld today for a damascus knife and jesus is it hard
I really liked the fact you showed the file sound for harden vs not harden.
A lot of hard work, kudos.
Way to keep challenging yourself. Pattern welding by hand is no joke. Maybe you should build a press or power hammer and make it a series. Then you'll save tons of anvil time making billets.
Beautiful knife you got there, whishaw I could do that. I was wondering what you were using to clean it up so nicely and what grit you were using
Well done sir!
Amazing work.
Not bad for first time.
Looks interesting.
Keep on forging.
Happy new year.
Greetings from Germany.
👍👍👍
Yeah. Good job. Making Damascus is not easy it requires skills.👍🏻
A great experiment buddy. Love it. Sorry about the fracture along the spine.
I know you did not like the result, but you can improve it in the next one, good video, keep going. *MOUNTAIN EAGLE*
The blade turned out good for a first attempt! :) Keep it up.
I dont know why I like this making blade videos
Wonderful job
That was interesting. 👍🏼👍🏼
Good job buddy, .... looks great!
I don't know why, but your videos are oddly satisfying lol
I would like to see finished with a handle. Great work so far.
¡Genial! Deberías participar en Desafío Sobre Fuego de The History Channel.
Very interesting!
Awesome project as always.
Buono ma il difficile non è saldare il damasco è forgiare punta e yagliente
Great job dude!
Not bad for a first attempt. Well done.
Very challenging project.
All I could think of was the phrase "steel sammich". Looks delicious.
Not an easy job, but very interesting. Well done, thanks!
that was amazing to watch well done
Nice work 👍👍👍👍👍
Beautiful
Nice project! And cool channel you have here, cheers!
Very tutorial..! Thanks..much appreciated..!!
Its interessting to see that you forged around 10layers together and grind more than a half away...damascus is hard to do without powerhammer. But you done well! Nice video by the way.
Am fall in love for your anvil 🤩🤩. Anyway, Great job man 👍👍
Very nice
Very good
That tool steel doesn't seem to like being forged at all, Alec Steele just had troubles with 01.
@@davideghisu7226 01 is super forgiving and easy to heat threat what are you talking about? you can heat treat it perfectly with a domestic oven, not sure where you got this information from...
O2 is more difficult
@oxi is O2 more difficult to forge?
Haven't had a problem hardening it
Good job
I would be so proud of that. It would work a treat and is a great result that would not make the bin as I fear that my first attempt at pattern welded steel will.
I had to use a lot of the same tools for tech ed, but I don’t know how you don’t shake when you use them cause I did. I was afraid I was gonna cut my finger off😂
Thanks. I finally get the idea.
Hey keep at it! Remember with Damascus steel min 36 layers to create a pattern. Still stay at it, the profile was great, I bet it was very comfortable in the hand. You have raw talent. Expierence and failure will refine that talent
Sweet bro!
С почином!
It looks cool