Cedar Fair Planning New Roller Coasters for Cedar Point, Kings Island, & Carowinds!
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- čas přidán 28. 04. 2024
- New surveys were sent out from Cedar Point, Kings Island, and Carowinds about potential future attractions, and we're going to discuss which ones we like the best!
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The Stryker model of Mack: high capacity, high thrills. This thing is a gamechanger.
I really hope a Cedar Fair park gets a Stryker (or even a mack hyper).
Yeah you seen the opening of Voltron that was a complete desaster. Well lets hope they get it fixed becasue it really looks nice.
mack is expensive
Horendously rough on the outer seats 😂
@@arturobianco848 It has run flawlessly for the last few days. No downtime whatsoever.
Tilt coaster at Kings Island would be PERFECT! Regardless, I hope whatever gets built in the Vortex plot of land, i hope its really good
If that were an option, sure, I guess, but what's really the difference between a tilt coaster and a dive coaster, other than manufacturer?
@@therealpskilla502 Tilt coasters probably have more anticipation before the drop since the track takes 10 seconds or so to swing down. And Vekoma has a wider variety of elements on their newer coasters. More turns and airtime pops, and their Immelmanns have a stall on top that B&M can't afford to do with shorter trains.
@@therealpskilla502 dive coasters dont do anything but edge you, tilt coasters are way more scary
Family coaster at Cedar Point for sure - ideally something like Big Bear Mountain. It is a shame that a modern woodie wasn't on the menu, because that's what that park needs more than anything else.
Yes exactly, something like Big Bear Mountain would be such a perfect fit for CP.
THEY JUST PUT A FAMILY COASTER IN CEDAR POINT YOU FOOL! ARE YOU TOO DENSE TO REMEMBER WILD MOUSE?
Wouldn't mind it as a replacement for CCMR if CP decides a modern woodie isn't worthwhile. Otherwise, they'd have to take out Gemini for that.
If Cedar Point is going to remove gemini they should definitely replace it with a family coaster. Gemini is a valuable family coaster that everyone can enjoy. It's definitely one of the larger and more challenging coasters that can help push people to try out even more thrilling coasters. It fills a valuable niche and if they ever remove it they need a family coaster capable of filling its niche.
@@stephenlee1664 Maybe. I'd personally prefer to see a modern Vekoma flyer go in there, but with Camp Snoopy next door, a large family thrill coaster would be great
Carowinds: log flume
Kings Island: giga dive -- world's tallest vertical loop, more total inversions (KI has the best kids area)
Cedar point: family thrill coaster on millennium island with camp snoopy expansion
A 300+ foot Dive would be gigantic holy moly
literally GIGAntic
I would hate this for Carowinds. Not because it’s a dive coaster (I think they’re fun), but because Carowinds already has the best Giga. Why try to steal Fury’s thunder?
@@gizzycav88 Exactly! Plus, the Nighthawk area is better for a dive around 200 ft tall anyway.
@@gizzycav88lol they’re completely different rides just because the height is similar doesn’t mean it would steal fury’s thunder
they should rmc hurler instead
The extreme spinner concept is giving big Six Flags vibes
Definitely a SF move. Buying a prototype model and adding it to Fiesta and now to SFOG as their testing grounds.
Honestly looks like Cedar Fair trolling them for adding a Super Boomerang last-minute.
Giga dive would be an awesome, inversions on a 300ft coaster would be insane
That would be a world class attraction, something KI could really use
So glad you did a video on this! Information on this was hard to find! The spinner at KI needs to be full circuit we agree! Capacity would be a nightmare, it gets too busy.
If it were full circuit, a 200 foot Mack extreme spinner would be a world class experience, something KI really needs these days. They have a deep lineup, but no top 20 standout that you can't get anywhere else.
Considering a 300 ft dive is crazy
Carowinds needs water rides. That really needs to be the focus over plusing up their coasters. My dream would a themed log flume that could build off the theming of Copperhead Strike. But the park gets very hot, has inadequate shade and now they don't have water rides. This is a huge gap for them.
A moccasin themed ride would be interesting.
@@FAFO4wisdom as in a water moccasin or cottonmouth? That could be interesting. Carowinds decides to make a name for itself by theming everything to the venomous snakes of the southeast.
I guess I had meant the story of Granny Byrd's moonshine racket and that they could expand on that story and maybe involve more characters. It makes me think of the use of the Bald Knobber gang at SDC. Maybe we could build on that idea with the moonshine.
But more snake stuff is also always fun. But then I'd want them to have some actual snake exhibits in the queue line if we're going all in on the snake idea.
I agree but I kinda really want a dive coaster.
I wonder if it's possible to make a hyper log flume with a 200 ft drop
There is a water ride in the leaked plans for next year
I agree that Kings Island needs capacity. A shuttle coaster (Mack spinner or not) is not going to work at KI or CP. They need a full circuit coaster in the Vortex plot for sure.
If Kings Island is to add a new coaster, it NEEDS to go in the spot Vortex was in, there's just a blank spot in the skyline now and I want to see something grand there again.
The beast is enjoying its extended territory however. 😅
R.i.p vortex
Kings Island Extreme spinner but full circuit for sure
I agree 100% with Sarah, If kings island is even remotely thinking about spending the type of money that a 300 foot B&M dive would cost, just imagine putting that same amount of money towards a full scale extreme spinner 🤯
I think Kings Island needs a worthy Vortex Thrill coaster replacement like the Vekoma Tilt Coaster, or the full circuit Extreme spinner!
If an actual Extreme Spinner is built at Kings Island I think I'd cry of happiness
Meanwhile VF, MI crying in the corner:
What does MI stand for?
@@Rand0mYTuser01Michigans adventure
2025 maybe, if not 2026 for sure! Pretty much said so at Spring Thaw
MI needs to RMC Wolverine Wildcat since the ride is rough and shaky. It will also be very cheap to make and can bring in lots of revenue and attendance. I’m surprised that Michigan’s Adventure hasn’t thought of that.
@@lordzeno3440as awesome as that would be, they’ve recently put gci titan track on a section, plus fully retracked much more of the ride, so i doubt they’d undo that to work with RMC. Also, RMC seems to be on Cedar Fair’s extensive “no fly” list
Great video! I really enjoyed watching this!
Kings Island NEEDS a Mack spinner! The park already has a new family ride and several B&M rides, the park needs something more unique to round out its lineup. The old Vortex plot or the area near Bat and the old son of beast dock (which they have been clearing out as of late) would be perfect plots for this.
KI getting a Mack Spinner would do so much good for the park and also bring a spinner to this part of the country
I was thinking the exact same thing!
My biggest concern with an indoor coaster at KI using the cavern building is that it’s a really old building and potentially dangerous. They would either have to completely rebuild it or dish out a ton of money to get it back to a safe enough state for a coaster to be put in.
@@creativedragon9545 It's also crammed right in the middle of the Rivertown section next to DB, the Beast and Mystic, so it would be nice to put the next thrill coaster somewhere else to help spread out the crowds
i’m a roller coaster causal so to me that 300 foot drop and the log water ride for Caroline’s sound absolutely awesome
I'd say water coaster to carowinds, the hyper spinner to cedar point, and the tilt for kings island given they have a dive 3 hours away at cedar point.
They’re so close with the Mack Xtreme spinner. Just make it a full circuit like Time Traveler and it’s a perfect fit!
They also sent out an extremely similar survey for Knott's Berry Farm this weekend
Oh really? What was on it?
@@CoasterStudios The same tower coaster concept but also an indoor/outdoor dark ride roller coaster
@@BrandonTisor I would do the Indoor/outdoor coaster
@@BrandonTisorthe extreme spinner tower one? And I hope that that indoor and outdoor one doesn’t replace the old mine ride… if they get rid of that I would be mad but I’m not sure where else it would go
@@Goat_Girl_Gwen Unless Knott's is considering removing one of their water rides? The Pony Express site wouldn't be big enough by itself, but they could do a lot with that land and Calico River Rapids. Or if they're looking at a Jaguar! replacement, I guess they could squeeze a show building in next to Silver Bullet's first drop and vertical loop. The shuttle XSC would only make sense if Montezooma were closing for good, but now we know it'll be reopening next year.
A cheap addition to cedar point was one of my favorites when i was a child. Little swan boats able to drive under fountains. Idk when they stopped that but id love to have that back.
Good points. Family thrill coasters (e.g., Cheeta Hunt at BGT or the BBM at Dollywood) have the longest lines. They have the most people who want to ride them, and they open parks for new sources of revenue. The thrill coasters are for a select few who will be there anyway. So I agree - you're going to see more and more of these).
All 3 getting a new coaster the same year would be a great year for cedar fair!
KI is my home park. A 300ft dive coaster would be my choice. The drops on Orion and Diamondback are fun, but a Giga-Dive would incorporate some massive inversions. It might be a lot for KI which has such a good family mix throughout the park, but my measly vote goes to the dive coaster. As under-rated as Orion is, KI needs an enthusiast thirst trap.
I'm so excited for whats to come, and y'all look lovely. :D
Kings Island has been my homepark for 40+ years and I think one these options would be awesome:
1) Mach Extreme Spinner in old Vortex plot, make use of existing terrain, maybe add several ponds.
2) Tilt Coaster in front, possibly where Invertigo and Congo Falls are currently located.
3) Indoor straddle coaster -think BGW DarkCoaster, but longer and perhaps themed to their old Phantom Theater ride/shows.
😆🎉
as a local i agree
My prediction
Cedar point: Vekoma Tilt coaster 200 ft
Kings island: Mack rides extreme spinning coaster
Carowinds: B&M giga dive coaster
I tend to think that being able to say that you have 2 gigas in one park would be a great marketing tool but I just want an RMC at Carowinds at this point. Not looking like it's going to be an option though sadly.
Rmc and cedar fair aren't on good terms np rmc coming
Cedar Point needs an indoor coaster.
Honestly, just any dark ride at all would be fantastic. Would love to see one go inside Steel Vengeance and expand on the ride's storyline.
Maybe one of those indoor straddle coasters (like BGW Dark Coaster), but w/ better capacity!
A tilt coaster as vortex’s replacement would be perfect
I honestly think a RTH clone would be better but a tilt would be nice too
Knott's Berry Farm also had a survey, with the only options being the Dark Ride Coaster and the Tower Coaster.
Cedar Point! Please put in a complete circuit Mack extreme spinner. Ride to happiness looks incredible and is on MANY Top 5 Coaster lists. If not next, definitely keep it at the top of your list. ;)
This shows cedar fair is listening many people have been asking for an extreme spinner at ki, they got the model right but we would need a completed layout
An Inverted launch on an extreme spin would be cool though. Maybe an uphill one, then twists over into a stangle dive, you got to banana roll at a high visibility point for pictures and hype.
I like the Giga Dive for KI!
Y’all are so good
We going to the Canada's wonderland route with this one🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥
Ooh boy. Overall, I think Carowinds had the best options to choose from, but man, the King's Island options are underwhelming. Here's what I would go with:
Carowinds: First choice would be the Super Flume. As another commenter said, theme it so that it ties into Copperhead Strike. That would be a huge success for the park. Second choice would be the Zamperla family launch coaster, since Carowinds isn't exactly stacked in family coasters. But overall, I'd choose the Super Flume. That area of the Carolinas gets crazy hot in the summer.
King's Island: I love the idea of a Mack Extreme Spinner, but they need to rethink that layout. I don't know if they're trying to be gimmicky or trying to save money on steel, but that ride would be a capacity nightmare. Plus, they already have Invertigo. This doesn't make sense unless they plan on getting rid of it. Make it a more traditional Mack Extreme Spinner ride like Ride to Happiness or Time Traveler and we'd have a winner. The dark ride could work if it's themed really well, like Sarah said.
Cedar Point: I'm gonna go with the Mack Water Coaster here. I've never ridden one, but it's the one ride on the list that seems different enough from what they already have. Tilt Coaster feels like it should go to a different park, but I don't know where.
CP could use a tilt coaster. They could market it as the tallest and fastest tilting coaster in the world if it was a Hyper Tilt. That’s something I’m intrigued to see CP adding that as their next coaster
My thing is they already have Valravn, and what's really the difference between a dive coaster and a tilt coaster other than the manufacturer?
@@therealpskilla502 layout. The rest of the layout on the tilt coasters are pretty sick. Val is cool but it's not really the most thrilling thing in the world after the drop.
Six Flags Qiddya has a 200ft+ tilt being built rn
@@JodyR87 A lot of thoosies hate on Valravn while GP’s praise it
@@therealpskilla502 A tilt coaster with elements similar to Fonix would be great as a Corkscrew replacement. Surprisingly, CP does not have a coaster with exactly 5 inversions. If CF isn't working with Gerstlauer any time soon, a Vekoma tilt would definitely compete well against TT2.
I think if i was an passholder for those CF Parks then here's the perfect choices.
- Carowinds - I would go with a Water Ride like Super-Flume or Water Coaster - (because the dry park does not has a water ride since the rapids closed), but i know some people would picked either the B&M Dive Coaster or Family Thrill Coaster better than an water ride.
- Kings Island - I was thinking the MACK Extreme Spinner would work amazing at this amazing park but not as a Shuttle but a whole coaster instead. But another one i like was the Indoor Coaster because of well... Winterfest of-course.
But as for you Taylor, i do agree that a Vekoma Tilt Coaster would 100% work well at Kings Island because CP has a Dive Coaster at Cedar Point so maybe a tilt coaster would work so well at Kings Island.
- Cedar Point - & finally & you know this one was so hard to choose, but either an Water Coaster or maybe Family Thrill Coaster could work at this park.
but yeah that's what i would choose for these 3 CF Parks 😉
Cedar Point and Carowinds both have a great top 5 lineup, but are lacking in quality depth, especially Carowinds. Kings Island, on the other hand, has one of the deepest ride lineups out there, and some great family attractions, but it's lacking that true world class attraction that will draw people from all over the country.
Where do I find the survey? (I’m a carowinds sp holder)
5:08 I agree about the super flume (it can pay amish to their old log flume which was taken out for thunder striker)
As Cedar Point pass holder with 4 kids under 11 years old, my vote is for a modern family thrill coaster. There needs to be another stepping stone between the kiddie coasters and the big boys. Preferably something with a 42" height limit.
I like what Busch Gardens is doing with Phoenix Rising. Not saying that it has to necessarily be a B&M Family invert, but something comparable to Phoenix Rising as far as specs and layout goes.
I hate it when a park doesn't have a water ride. I love them. So Carowinds should definitely get one.
Dive Coaster: Not a great choice for any of these parks. Would be a fantastic choice at a different Cedar Fair property that didn't already have a giga (WOF 2026?).
Water Coaster: This is my pick for Cedar Point as a spiritual successor to Shoot the Rapids and White Water Landing. It gives them a family friendly coaster and a modern water ride all in one, which are two major ride styles the park is lacking.
Super Flume: My pick for Carowinds from the options. They don't have a single water ride, so a gigantic flume ride would be an excellent addition to the park.
Family Thrill Coaster: This is what I consider the safe option in that it would be a great addition for any of the parks but probably is the least needed at them as well. Personally, I'd say this would be better as a follow-up to Iron Menace at Dorney.
Indoor/Outdoor Dark Ride Coaster: My personal pick for Kings Island. Not only would it be a really cool coaster for any regional theme park (especially if the interior matches the level of detail Cedar Fair has been doing lately), but it would also give them another coaster that could likely operate during Winterfest.
Tower Coaster: Very weird concept that only really makes sense for a smaller park with space constraints. Could maybe see it at a park like Valleyfair, but it would be a pretty poor option anywhere bigger due to capacity constraints.
Tilt Coaster: As much as I'd love to see parks invest in these, it's far too low of capacity for somewhere like Cedar Point. Where I think this could be really cool is as an eventual Anaconda replacement at Kings Dominion, especially if it had the tilt drop into an underwater tunnel.
I need either a water ride or the family thrill at Carowinds. Both are gaps in our lineup that could really use some filling. I just pray we don’t get the giga dive because that would be so redundant 😅
I agree, that spinning tower coaster sounds like something I would try once and then never touch again. Low capacity and too gimmicky for either park. Something like Time Traveler would be a much better fit.
Of the options presented, I think the dive fits best for Kings Island. They already have a family launch coaster and an indoor coaster, and Valravn is the only dive coaster in the area. None of the other nearby parks have one. So unless they plan to retire Backlot or Flight of Fear, I think they go with the proven, reliable, easy to market option.
As a Carowinds Season Pass holder with two young children, I would be thrilled for a record breaking family coaster. My daughters and I would repeat ride all day.
Carowinds has been my home park for the last 20yrs. We had the rapids who’s still sitting and rotting, the chute to chute which Copperhead Strike is now occupying and the log flume which was removed for Thunder Stryker. So I’m going to naturally lean for the super flume. My coaster side would love to see a dive in the park’s skyline.
I would love an indoor coaster or a proper Xtreme Spinner at Cedar Point, but I’m not opposed to a water coaster or a family coaster in the same vein as Big Bear Mountain. I’m hoping either Corkscrew is the next to go and they put a new ride there, or possibly across from Iron Dragon where Wildcat used to be. Space is very limited there unfortunately
I just did this survey for Kings Island yesterday.
IMO Kings Island needs a multi launch above anything else. A multi launch part indoor coaster in the old old Crypt building would be absolutely PERFECT.
If Kings Island does do an indoor roller coaster (which they should as it would add another attraction for winter fest) it really should be theme to Phantom Theater Returns!
Hi Taylor and Sarah, I work at CP. I think either the family coaster or the Mack water coaster is a good fit. One idea I have is relocate prof dilberts frontier fling, and remove snake river falls and use half of the forbidden frontier island. Idea two is clear out kiddy kingdom to add the family coaster and make it part of the boardwalk.
Great point about the tilt coaster being a better fit for King's Island. Cedar Point and Carowinds both could use a solid wooden coaster (and it seems like Mystic Timbers was a success for KI so I'm disappointed we aren't seeing more with that). I've been to all 3 in the past year and I want to see the family launched coaster for Carowinds (though they also have Kiddy Hawk), a Tilt/Extreme Spinner for KI (they have no shortage of family rides), and a family launched at CP (albeit different, maybe something like Big Bear Mountain).
It's interesting how Carowinds and Cedar Point both have a great top 5, but are lacking in quality depth, especially Carowinds, but Kings Island has the opposite problem where they have plenty of mid tier and family rides, but are lacking that world class attraction that will draw people from all across the country. I think the 300 foot dive coaster makes a lot of sense, even though Valravn exists, because it would provide something unique. I understand everyone wants a tilt coaster, but what's really the difference between a tilt coaster and a dive coaster other than the manufacturer?
I've always wanted a Mack or high-thrill Vekoma to come to Cedar Point, as it is my home park, so either of those would very much make me happy. And a giga dive sounds fantastic! That drop would seem to last forever! All three of these choices make me happy. And for Carowinds, either of the water rides do seem to make sense, so hopefully we see those!
A giga dive coaster at Cedar Point? They already have a dive coaster.
Great video
For Kings Island, this may be an unpopular opinion, but the park needs a clear #1 coaster, and it really should go in the old Vortex plot of land. Mystic Timbers is just outside my Top 40 and would be a great #2. Orion is good as well. I think either a ground up RMC (Zadra or Arie Force level) or a full circuit Mack Extreme Spinner (Ride to Happiness level) are the option for that plot of land considering what KI already has. Not sure of the Tilt coaster would be the #1 they need in my eyes. It would be an interesting addition though. Not sure you want to stick that in the back of the park. Seems like it could replace Invertigo in the front of the park.
I think that a full circuit Extreme Spinner would be amazing at KI (and I’m not just saying that because it’s my home park) I got on Time Traveller last year and it was incredible I got 13 rides on it. We don’t have a spinning coaster and the only other thing that’s close and that high thrill would be Time Traveller
I would love to see a solid indoor coaster at Cedar Point. The Vekoma tilt seems perfect for Kings Island. As for Carowinds, I've not had the check to go there yet but the flume looks amazing to round out their ride collection!
Of the options they listed for KI, I think the dive coaster makes the most sense. We already have an indoor ride and plenty of family rides, and the extreme spinner looks like it would be a capacity nightmare if it's not full circuit. We need more inversions, and preferably something world class.
Cmonnnn KNOTTS needs a survey!!! Let’s goooo
Cedar Point needs *the* coaster that combines some things. They're literally on the the lake, and while maintenance might need to be more intense, give me a dark or a straight up coaster that goes into the water. Not just skim the surface, but takes us actually under the water. Who wouldnt wanna a submarine themed ride that takes you 7 to 10 feet under the surface in a tunnel shoot.
Most of the appeal of a shuttle coaster comes from the fact you get to do it all forwards and backwards, but it's a spinning coaster so you're gonna get a bit of both regardless. 😓
A real Mock extreme spinner would be sick
Did you guys get a new mic or adjust your volume? It seems a lot louder than normal because I had to turn my volume almost all the way down lol. Not complaining, just wondering if it was just me or you changed the volume.
As a Carowinds passholder... The giga dive is what we need. It would go in the rapids plot. GP love dives and imagine walking in the park and bam theres 2 Gigas side by side! Carowinds would be BUSY. A water ride wont drive in tons of new visitors. The family thrill coaster would be good if done correctly, it would need to be like hagrids.
I'm a Kings Island passholder, but I must've missed this survey. I'd love all of them to be honest, but if I had to pick, probably the spinner if it's a full scale. Otherwise the indoor ride.
Other than that, I'd love to see the new B&M stand-up, B&M Flyer, or any manufacturer's looping models. Also, I love the shout out to Adventure Express - I grew up on that ride!
I like the flume at Carowinds, and at Cedar Point I like the family ride.
A giga dive would clear YUkon Striker by 50 plus feet and be twice the height of the mid size ones it would be a totally different experience it would be perfect at Kings Island. They could solve 2 birds with one stone they could shut up all of the enthusiasts complaining about Orion and give kings island it’s unquestionably signature attraction
I got a very similar survey for Knotts this weekend!
really? what was on it?
@@CoasterStudios the tower coaster (though I don't remember it saying it was spinning) & the indoor/outdoor coaster. It only showed those two & asked which of the 2 we felt would be a better fit for Knotts
@@RankingTheMousewhere would they even put the indoor/outdoor one? They have no space to put anything like that
You did a video on RMC a while back!! I did all the fiberglass artwork, seats, and paint on 7 of them. I had a little shop in Cda Idaho. It was just me and another guy!!
Amy was telling us about you guys, that’s awesome! You guys are very talented and created some truly incredible pieces of work.
@@CoasterStudios thank you, wished I still did it, I shut down when Covid hit, RMC did not have any new coasters on their radar and I couldn’t wait a year (or however long) without any jobs. Now I own a painting company and build cars. Maybe one day I’ll get back in to it:)
@@CoasterStudios wish I could post pics, I have a few of the different stages
I like the Flume for Carrowinds I went on my first trip last year and was wondering where all the water rides were. Also the water coaster for CP I like. Probably due to maintenance costs but I hate seeing all the parks loose their water rides. KI I don't really know never been so don't know what they need most.
for canada's wonderland, construction/work on the mountain actually started before the survey! Currently what we know about the coaster is that cedar fair stepped in last second and the coaster we were gonna get is no longer what we're getting, and wonderland is aiming for a new #1 ride at the park. We should still be getting a launch out of the mountain but not in the same way as the blast coaster idea, its most likely out of the bottom. We do know it would have been a launched wing coaster, but its not happening anymore. There's strong intamin rumors as well as zamperla. Construction for the footers inside the mountain just started today too so hopefully we get more info on the ride soon :D
Tilt coaster , very unique
300 ft dive under ground would be insane for kings island!
Carowinds used to have a log flume where Intimidator or Thunder Striker is now. I'd love a dive coaster at my home park, but I don't know if they would put one there since Griffon is just a couple hours away at Busch Gardens Williamsburg.
I just got back from my first time to Carowinds yesterday. The park is great but they NEED a water ride. They have plenty of flat rides and coasters but a water ride would be perfect. It's sad they closed the rapids, hope they get the water ride concept.
Regular Mack Extreme Spinner for all parks always.
But maybe Mack Extreme Splash if it's hot and you can't get wet otherwise.
Are you guys doing holiwood nights this year?
For Carowinds, I think that the dive coaster will be the better attraction, but the worst fit. It lacks both a good family coaster and a water ride and I think the launched water coaster will be a great fit since it combine the two (+ it looks to duel a bit so that's cool)
For KI, they already have a giga so I'm not going with the dive, and they also already have an indoor coaster so I'm not going with the family indoor neither. The family coaster collection of the park is decent so I think this is the park that need the less the family shuttle coaster and the Xtreme spinner looks like the better fit (and nobody says the layout will be just a stall and a spike) since they don't have any spinning coasters and this could only make their coaster collection better
For Cedar Point, why not the water coaster but they already have water attractions so I let this one to Carowinds, and for the Xtreme spinner, they already have a shuttle coaster (+ it's way taller) and a spinning coaster, so I don't think this is the better option. The tilt coaster will be great for a thrill ride but Valravn is also a gimmick coaster that use a dive effect and I don't think the park needs two of them (even if this is not the same and looks way better). The family coaster collection here is not as bad as Carowinds but still lacking, so the family shuttle is what I'm picking
That Mack spinner looks very weird. Lol
Here are my opinions:
Carowinds - Water Coaster, or Super Flume! CAROWINDS NEEDS A WATER RIDE!! The park gets incredibly hot, and the only way to cool off is at the water park. But sometimes the water park will be closed for the day, and you’ll be burning the hell up. I went the Carowinds recently, and I was so ridiculously hot! A water coaster would be PERFECT for Carowinds! And that 300ft dive coaster is a terrible idea. Praying that we DONT get that.
Kings islands - Tilt Coaster! If I had to choose from the 4 they picked, I go with the indoor coaster, or the family thrill coaster. But I agree with y’all that the tilt coaster NEEDS to go to kings island. Cedar point has a dive coaster, and a tilt coaster is pretty similar to a dive coaster which they already have. Also cedar point has a lot of thrill coasters, and needs more family coasters. A tilt coaster would be perfect for kings island, and it’s a WAY better option than the 300ft dive coaster.
Cedar point - family thrill coaster! Like I said before I feel like they need more family coasters. They just added TT2 which is supposed to be scary, and not for younger visitors. Adding another thrill coaster Is just not really the best idea. If they don’t have any water rides, a water coaster would also be a good idea.
I’m really hoping that 300ft dive coaster is not added to any of the 3 (especially cedar point) I get it’s the worlds FIRST Giga dive coaster but if they really wanted to build that, do It at another park like six flags or something. Or maybe Michigans adventure. Now Taylor, and Sarah would have another reason to re-visit Michigan adventure.
I think they're joking with Giga part of the Dive choice and shuttle part of the Xtreme Spinner choice and are actually just considering just more standard models of both.
I feel the same that another woodie is time . Imagine the gci inverted racer like the one modeled at IAAPA I believe for Cedar Point. If there was no beef , an intamin swing launch for Kings Island like pantheon or like you guys said the extreme mack spinner in vortex' plot of land as like a revamp "Iron Vortex" title idea but not with that Shuttle Concept
There’s beef with intamin and cedar point?
I think a wing coaster or some type of coaster that goes OVER mains street of KI would be amazing
Here's a wild thought: If CP can build along Millennium Midway, they'd be able to connect the Corkscrew plot with the former dorm site. That'd provide a ton of space for a Vekoma family coaster on par with Big Bear Mountain.
KI could use the 300ft dive cause they only have 3 coasters with inversions and two are from the 90s.
I always just want more RMC
Carowinds definitely needs a water ride even though I would love a Big Bear mountain esque ride the flume is my favorite too looks like a crowd pleaser. As for Kings Island would love a Mack extreme spinner closer to where I live or honestly maybe Dollywood could do one in a couple years either way we need more of these rides
7:18 Using spinning cars for a shuttle coaster that big would be redundant since part of a shuttle coaster's appeal is that there's a part of the ride where you're facing the opposite direction from the direction you're moving in. Plus, Kings Island has an extreme shuttle coaster already, Invertigo.
100% full circuit extreme spinner at Kings Island would bring so many people there. Nothing like it within reasonable driving distance, so it would bring people from north/south of 71/75 especially.
Either a Mack Spinner (not the linear one shown) or a Vekoma Tilt would be great in the Vortex plot of land. I think that whatever they put there should have the iconic batwing element in the place of Vortex's former.
I'd say tilt for kings and the spin to fair.
Still, a 300 foot dive coaster is tempting...
@@therealpskilla502 Perhaps, but like they mentioned in the video, both parks already have a giga. I think it would be genuinely hilarious if say, Hersheypark got a 300ft Dive Machine to fight the market with Dorney's recent Iron Menace addition. 😂
For Kings Island I’d pick either the giga dive (another huge crowd pleasing coaster and would look great on Vortex plot) or top choice the indoor/outdoor dark coaster (it would be different and a more story driven ride for the park. They seem to really be focusing on story more)
I would LOVE a well themed indoor coaster at KI
Carrowinds: the flume WITH a family invert that soars over it, kinda along the lines of what Zamperla did last year with Coney Island.
I like the flume for Carowinds, a regular spinner for KI, and the family thrill for CP.
But if I had my choice of things that aren’t on these lists.
I’d do one of the new drop rapids rides (like infinity falls) at Carowinds.
KI I would love a one of 2 ideas both involving the old Crypt building and theming the ride as Phantoms Theater. 1. A launched Vekoma flyer starting with a themed preshow and launching out of the old crypt entrance through diamondbacks helix into a corkscrew over the track then a mess of 4000+ ft of track in the old vortex plot before traversing back to the back side of the crypt building.
Or use a small portion of vortex’s plot and build a zierer family coaster station that launches up into an airtime hill through diamondbacks helix then goes into the old crypt entrance into a phantom theater themed experience. Then a drop track and you launch out of the back of the building into some turns and airtime hills going through The Beasts lift hill structure to get back to the Vortex Plot.
And at CP I’d love to see them at a GCI twister on millennium island. Or take the plot where wildcat used to sit, plus through parts of valravn, and the empty plot from the old dorms and do one of the new Mack striker coasters (as voltron looks cool$
I think a regular mack extreme spinner at cedar point would be a great fit. Its not an option but a new state of the art GCI at cedar point would also be awesome. I agree flume for carowinds.
Also i wanna see a surbey for valleyfair! Its my home park and it needs a new coaster bad! Something with inversions
I've been a Cedar Point passholder for years and i was disappointed i didn't get the survey.
I think the water coaster would be a good fit for the old Forbidden Frontier island. I'm almost thinking any choice they do would have to go there, due to space.
That tilt would be awesome though. Yeah, it's similar to a dive. But cedar point always has to try to one-up someone else's record. CotA having the first tilt in the states, cedar point going to make it taller.
I think the family coaster for kings island would be too similar to what they built for this year already. Making a longer, faster version of it will just draw away from the one that just was built. I think the dive would be great there.
Still holding out for the new roller coaster at Michigan's Adventure! Next year's the year!